Cornel West Responds to Dr. Gina Paige of African Ancestry: “I’m Not Giving You My DNA” 

They elevate their whiteness and only use the black card to gain opportunities and be the face of black Americans. I'm not even American but notice this.

I tell yah! It's sad.

Word.

Exactly. They already have everyone's DNA because they prick babies' feet when they are born!

It is expensive to do that test and not get paid for doing that. Businesses try hard not to lose money.

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@AngBwillz22 they're afraid for a good reason. You are too comfortable with following the crowd. They clearly tell you they sell your dna

It's sad that more people aren't interested in learning about their true cultural origins. I have been watching videos of tribal people in Africa lately. They totally rock! I want to go there and hang out with them. I doubt I could last 500 yards of one of the hunts I saw on videos, but I could last a long time listening to their awesome tunes. Hey! Maybe music can unite people? That would be so cool!

I mentioned highlighting text in another post. I highlighted "tribal people in Africa" and found loads of neat videos. I'm going to check them out.

@@Xenoyer - Yes, but please know that Africa is wayyy more than tribal people- that’s what the media shows you. There’s so many countries with cities and areas with beautiful neighborhoods, and Africans living wonderfully just like u see in the U.S. You have to visit to see. It’s not mostly huts with starving kids and a jungle…it’s beautiful cities with fruit trees and lots to do.

@@vbarbara3235, Africa is a fantastic place with diverse people. All the way from the Mediterranean to South Africa, the wonders never cease. Before I retired, I worked in aviation. I met people from all over the world. I met and conversed with many people from Africa. They came from Nigeria, Egypt, and Ethiopia. They were cosmopolitan coming from a big city urban environment. We worked together on airplanes. I learned some, but have much more to learn. The reason I mentioned the tribal people there is because they are what we emerged from. That is the culture I wish people would remember, their origins. Like with my ancient ancestors, the Picts. They were the "painted ones" from the Scottish Highlands. They were Celtic people with their own culture. They too were persecuted. The Romans invaded and for 400 years they subjugated my ancient ancestors. The Romans enslaved them and even were entertained by the death of a Celtic prisoner in the Coliseum. Just like the Africans, I want the Celtic people to also remember who they are. Just look what happened. When I think of it too much, I want to cry out. Our people were effectively stripped of their culture by colonial forces. For centuries, we were given a false identity. My people were sent to schools where they were whipped if they spoke Galic, just like the indigenous people of North America who were also sent to schools to take away their identity. Now we have people who don't even know who they are, carrying Nazi and Confederate flags, and chanting hatred. I swear, if a real Nazi from WWII Germany viewed one of the clowns marching with a tiki torch, they would fall down rolling on the floor laughing at them. Then they would round them up and send them to a concentration camp as sub-human trash to be burned in an incinerator. The ignorance is displayed by them can only be explained by the brainwashing they received from the moment of their birth. Ho Ho Ho, Santa Claus. Capitalist brainwashing to keep the wheels of industry going. My ancestors were not Christians. but the descendants of the Celtic people here follow that religion, even the End Times lunacy. Our ancestors, who built Stone Hinge, must be rolling over in their graves howling in anger because of their willing subjugation. Just like with the Africans. They were brought here 100s of years ago because of a labor shortage. A labor shortage caused by the extinction of entire groups of indigenous persons. The Africans were stripped of their ancient culture and given a new one. The slave masters even wrote a book about using Christianity to keep Africans enslaved. People need to know these things. Some right-wing jerk can get all up in arms about it. They can get all indignant about it when these things are being taught. They yell and holler, complaining about Critical Race Theory, thinking a finger is pointed at them. I find that kind of weird! They are complaining about the truth coming out? They don't care to learn the truth about all of our pasts? Do they love ignorance so much that they will not even admit the truth? Some ignorant person might look at me and call me "white". They might remind me that my ancestors held slaves in North Carolina. They may inform me of the truth, but that doesn't mean they are blaming me personally for it. I was born over 100 years after that heinous situation. I'm not going to deny it either. I am owning all of my ancestor's past. The truth of the matters, and not some Ho, Ho, Ho Santa Claus fantasy invented by money-grubbing capitalists. That's why I reject the label "white". To me, it is an insult. I am Celtic! That is my true cultural identity. I swear all of our people have got to learn their real past and the cultural identity that was stolen from them. Once all of our people do that, they might be able to live in peace because they will know that we all are truly brothers and sisters, who were harmed greatly by colonial forces. Critical Race Theory, if people want to call the learning of the truth that, is immensely important to the healing of our nation. Sorry for going on and on about this. I'll stop now by asking if people will look up the story of Boudica ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9G01vm9MVa4.html. She was a freedom fighter, who I would follow to the gates of Hell and enter therein the fight. Like Shaka Zulu ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cPzM04IARb0.html, she was a fighter against the tide of colonialism. Perhaps, in the end, they were unsuccessful in their struggle. Or perhaps the end of the struggle has never come. I ask us to remember.

@@vbarbara3235 I'm sure in their minds, those tribal people are also "living wonderfully."

Brandon I’m thinking about using this company. Is this the one you used?

It may not really be accurate to begin with.

We don't have a choice because most of us can't trace our ancestry back past the 1800s. They didn't keep records of where each slave was from.

True but still. Just wish it could be cheaper for us

Why isn't your government paying for this?

@@Njoofene because they do not want us knowing our roots.

If you don't mind me asking, are you Black (I am)? And, what made you glad that you took the tests.

@@mykaelajones7780 Yes I am Afrikan. My avatar pic is my real pic. Curiosity got the best of me. People treat AAs like we are not really Afrikan because we cant name our tribes. So I have put an end to that. I am Hausa on my Moms side and Kota on my Dads side.

@@kiswahiliworldwide You don't know that. They can tell you anything. In fact, I know of 4 instances of AA giving different results to people who had the same STR or HVR markers. I know of 3 individuals given Spain/Portugal in their Patriclan who ended up being of African paternal descent. Every single instance where an African from the continent has taken AA's tests they have gotten the tribe wrong.

@@crescendyr8438 Links please. Provide ur proofs. I took 23 and Me first, and both company's results match up.

@@kiswahiliworldwide Do you have access to the African Ancestry's private FB group? I will have to point you to the certs in question or send you the files via email.

Those Africans?

Thanks for the Likes. I 🗣️ speak Truth

Take a test find out all the African ethnic diverse DNA they say. And remember the borders in Africa have changed many times over and Empires there have changed.

We are the original Americans

No saliva can tell u where you're from. This woman should go to jail for lying.

A bit of a late post here, but I think Dr West said he just wasn’t interested in taking the patrilineal and matrilineal tests. He did take the autosomal test for his family, so it seems unlikely his decision is tied to fear of European ancestry. The autosomal results would have revealed that he has more euro ancestry than african ancestry.

He's not more European than Black. He is 50/50, but his maternal origin is European, and the same for the fathers side

@Noneya Mybiz Could be.

A Human of European, African and possibly Asian descent?

If you thought you were white, you're white. 1-drop is such a racist concept. You're effectively saying that 1-drop of piss in the lemonade ruins the whole pitcher so it might as well all be piss as nobody will drink it.

@@crescendyr8438 🤣

@@crescendyr8438 That is not a good analogy. Most people are not drinking lemonade containing a half a drop of piss in it. The whole idea of racial categorization is a racist concept.

You have to ask yourself why. Maybe they have not romanticized thus myth of out of africa

They get samples of DNA from those ethnic groups.

that's a lie. who taught you that. all socalled black people are not african as if no other lands had its own dark peoples. your imagination has been colonized. go do your genealogy.

@@spaceghost2473 Africans moved in and out of Africa before Rome Empire collapsed and before Britain went through their battles with Scotland.

@@alanaweaver8942 what does that have to do with other lands already having there own dark peoples just as they had there own trees and animals. All socalled black people are not african.

Not all of the mixing was due to slavery

@@spaceghost2473 they're African

There’s a great exhibit on African-American cuisine at the Museum of AA History in DC. You should also visit the museum.

High on the Hog is a terrific program. Very evocative

@Patti RockGarden you do know over 90% on the african continent are indigenous to the America's right? Let that sink in

Humans probably won't be around in twenty thousand years.

Oh okay😂

Sky Blue, do Sicilians have kinky hair?

@@justmyopinion9883 Sicilian's are VERY olive-skinned..REMEMBER.."The Mediterranean" is RIGHT above North Africa..Hannibal Barca's conquerin' of Rome..who's INCORRECTLY depicted in MODERN-day X's🤷..Modern day Tunisia is full of arab's & Ancient Carthage is in AFRICA..& The Moors..Rome had African mercenaries'..so THAT'S why MANY Italian's, Greek's & Spaniard's are OLIVE-skinned as OPPOSED to Northern & Eastern European's..you ALSO gotta' remember..Greece & Rome CONQUERED Egypt & MIXED w/ the population unlike Britain

@@justmyopinion9883 : The original ones did.

@@justmyopinion9883 are all black people have kinky hair? Have you been to the continent or are you regurgitating what you're conditioned to think and believe?

@Jacques- I was l surprised at his lack of passion for wanting to know his African roots. But it’s his prerogative to want to be plugged into a system that’s been abusive to black people. The sad reality is that many black folks don’t care to know who they really are as it relates to our African heritage. That’s their choice though and I guess their right to have it….though it’s sad. People have to wake up on their own accord.

No you can use 8 on a specific website calculator stevemorse.org/dna/hapest.php

@@Im.Etheric Oh do you work for African Ancestry? If so where can I find the reference to how many markers that are being used and etc breakdown to the science and how confident is their results that they stand by. This is something all dna companies disclose to their buyers to help them feel confident in their decision to buy what you are selling and proclaim to be an authentic product with what percent of authenticity. We are dealing with science after all. As for the website for 8 markers, there is probably thousands of cites offering the same service. I am asking African Ancestry how many do they use, how much accuracy does that yield and the science behind their claim. That is the least I am asking, I expect a lot more for the money they are asking.

They use 8 STRs for Patriclan. To put things in perspective, a 12-STR match indicates kinship going back 4 *THOUSAND* to 5 *THOUSAND* years ago. You'd need a 25-STR match to indicate kinship within the last 500 years. 8-STRs is genealogically useless and Dr. Kettles and Paige know this. They are intentionally preying on African American desire to know our roots for personal profit. On FTDNA I have matches at the 12-STR level who have taken the full sequence test (Big Y) and they have different haplotypes. The common ancestor and split point of these paternal haplotypes goes back 4.5kya. That is before these tribes even existed as they do today. That's before the Bantu Migration. This is why I have many Middle East matches because the relationship is before my ancestors even left the middle east as these guys have their own middle east specific branches of E-P252 that developed after the split. There are publicly available STR databases compiled throughout the course of DNA studies. I have collected several databases. The main one has 2736 samples from all across the continent. I enter my 8-STRs that AA uses and I got 49 perfect matches, split between 37 tribes, across 10 counties. Even at fact value it's ridiculous to take less than 1% of ones DNA and ignore all the rest to claim you're just from this or that particular people. So all the R1b-V88 Chadian men who are 95-99% African are Eurasians because of yDNA from the neolithic ancestors??? What Gina Paige fails to mention about AncestryDNA autosomal test is the DNA relatives. After combing my relatives I have found to date 1 Temne, 1 Wolof, 1 Hausa, 4 Ewe and 9 Igbo relatives. These are all 100% African people from the continent who I have actual kinship with within the last 300-500 years. Based on my own genealogy research my oldest know paternal ancestor was born in Virginia around 1818. Virginia was know for having mostly Igbo slaves which fits with the relatives I have. My paternal like is more than likely Igbo, but AA would claim I'm Tsogo, Ateke, Kota and Fang of Gabon. I found this out by using YTer's result sheet to fake my way into their FB group and collect result sheets until I found one that matched my STRs. I collected about 68 Patriclan and 150+ Matriclan results. I've noticed 4 instances of them giving people with the same STRs or HVRs different tribe assignments. And thru FTDNA I know of 3 case where they told men they were Spain/Portugal and they ended up having African paternal lineages. Two where E-U175 and the other E1a. For Matriclan they used to test just HVR-1. More recently they do HVRs 1-3, but still not a full sequence. HVRs work like SNPs in y-chromosome testing. This is why they give haplotypes with Matriclan tests. STRs aren't good for assigning haplotypes so Patriclan doesn't give one. What this means is that they are effectively claiming certain haplotype belong exclusively to certain tribes. anyone who has done any research, read any mtDNA studies, will know that L-haplotypes are scattered all over the continent. It's is patently absurd to claim otherwise. Again, they know this. Dr. Kettles is a genetics professor. He is intentionally lying. I recall an episode of 60 Minutes several years back dealing with DNA testing and he got called out by all his colleagues.

@@crescendyr8438 Sounds like you know your stuff...I did Ancestry DNA and like most of my relatives were Igbo,Bateke,Ewe and Asante tribes.My lineage is out Virginia, Maryland and Barbados so just testing Haplogroups doesn't give you an exact tribe or ethnicity.

Has nothing to do with the being blacked own. He probably just doesn't support defrauding his people. Kinda like these fake celebrities with crypto currency and now they have had ti distant themselves because it was a scam. Most of us know we do not come from the african stock. We are a different people and that is not something to be ashamed about.

Xenoyer- If u feel u are truly educated on this (backed up by clear research), then educate those u feel need to be educated. You can do it by writing an article, offering a seminar (online or in person), or writing a book. U sound passionate about it, so do something about it and share the knowledge on bigger platforms. Be sure to have your research or evidence on anything u present as true facts. (U can incorporate a business around your teaching/training…very inexpensive to do).

@@vbarbara3235, I am educated about social things as much as I have read about them. From my own readings, I come up with thoughts, just like any person. I write articles all the time when the passion is roused in me. I share what I find and think about things a lot too. Once upon a time, I referenced everything I wrote. Now I don't. The reason is that people can highlight text and do a search on it. Sometimes when I read something, I highlight some word, or group of words, and do a Google search on them. Normally, I find a lot of articles about what I highlighted. Within the articles I find with the search, I find other words or groups of words, that bacon my highlighted search. One thing leads to the other. Writing a book is something I have pondered a lot. I am starting to believe I have enough material to write one. If I did, it would be labeled Marxist propaganda by the oligarchs and ignorant people. I would have to give them away at cost. As far as "incorporating" that would be like poison to me. It would have to be like my beliefs. Codetermination would have to rule. Labor has to have an equal voice. Yeah, there are all kinds of corporations. There are also all kinds of snakes and criminals. I have a big problem with the very concept of the corporation. Thanks for your reply.

@@Xenoyer - By “incorporating” I actually mean simply starting a business. U don’t have to actually incorporate it, u can LLC it or simply have a sole proprietor. The idea is just to start a business around your passion….let your natural gifts and passions make way for you. BTW, Corporations or businesses in general only become corrupt because of their corrupt owners. As long as your heart is pure and good, your business will be the same whatever organizational style it’s built on. Best wishes with getting your ideas out and educating others.

*Scot

@@AmandaFromWisconsin, typo. The reason people use the term "so-called" is that even though they are called something, that is not what they are. Example: I am called a "white person", but that is not what I am. The term was invented by slavers long ago when this continent was first being settled by Europeans. What I really am is a Celtic Pict, not a white person. Divide and conquer, right? People are divided in every way imaginable, including by the use of "so-called" labels of color. It's disgusting. I hope that clears up the usage of that term. Maybe your eyes will get a rest.

Bull shit! He is the foremost propounder of European classics. He is by training a philosopher. So, your charge here is bogus. Besides he says he is OK from his ancestry being from West Africa for the reason he stated. If I am correct he was married to an Ethiopian woman. Get rid of you wild and evil slander.

@@jpaultelchannel1702 you keep Believing in the White man's Philosophy, and I'll believe in Scientific, Facts, you have every right to live in Denial, and all of the Dark Ages.

@@cw8499 I don't see any science in anything you've written in the few disjointed sentences that do not make sense. I gave you facts in an earlier post which you chose to ignore. In fact, every sentence from the second is a fact.

@@jpaultelchannel1702 Sweet Sugar, any Educated person whom wants to specialize in the Black Community, Should participate in Cultural activities, that will promote a healthy environment for a family of people, whom are unaware of who they actually are, I'm Sorry that I touched your nerves, African Ancestry, has the Science when it comes to identifying, Lost Black people, whom are unaware of their True, identity.

It's pretty obvious that they keep it and use it for research. Look at Henrietta Lacks! Her cells were used without her permission. You don't think they do the same with the rest of us?

@@ilovelife3328 Agreed. The last sentence was my sarcasm

@@muhammadal-farouq7342 LOL. We probably already have clones of ourselves running around the earth somewhere with all of the samples they take at the doctors offices.

@@ilovelife3328 Right!

Are they from Cape Verde or Sao Tome?

* eye roll *

@@AmandaFromWisconsin What's your guess then wise gal?

@@nerdlarge4691 Janice Dickinson is of Eastern European descent. As to who it is, well...does it really matter all that much? Will it prove that that model's "greatness" or "beauty" is a result of her having a black African ancestor?

who says socalled african americans are african? are you saying the americas didnt have its own dark peoples? who told you that black americans are african?

@@spaceghost2473 Go take your medications, sweetie.

@@spaceghost2473 Those dark skinned Native people were of Asian and Australian Aboriginal/Melanesian descent. Not African Americans.

@@ilovelife3328 most african americans arent african

@@spaceghost2473 Yes we are. Our DNA is African, not Indigenous American. That pipe dream needs to die once and for all because it is not based in logic or science. African Americans typically have no indigenous DNA and if we do, it is 1% at most.

This ancestry test might be one I'd be willing to take. What I would like to know is who would have access to this genetic information because I've heard that several companies share the information with various forms of law enforcement. Now I don't think I've ever done anything that would warrant using genetics to track me down but I still value that kind of privacy, not only because I want that level of privacy for my fellow human beings for whom this might be a risk, but because I want to be free to engage in an appropriate level of resistance to the growing fascism in our country with one less way to track me down for whatever reason.

"Black Irish" just means a white Irish person with dark hair. People in Ireland are not part black.

I’m currently awaiting results until July or August.

I thought she was relatively respectful but she has her angle of course

@Gia I think you mean *askew*, and that's why your opinion is different. You weren't paying attention

@Gia What you said isn't a word. It isn't proper English, and it shows that you didn't pay attention to detail then and while watching the video.

I used AfricanAncestry.com tests & I know I am Yoruba from Nigeria. I also was able to obtain citizenship in Sierra Leone 🇸🇱 thanks to proving I am Mende & Temne on my mother’s side.

why is it important? what actual impact does it have on you? unless.... you already didnt have a sense of pride and reverence for the ancestors you knew.

It makes a substantial difference and had nothing to do with lack of pride in our current ancestors but rather a sense of heritage. For example, my friends and I (all of various races and ethnicities) generally love history particular history preceding the Industrial Revolution. In full disclosure, this is partially because we also share a love of fantasy literature and various myths (Greek,Norse ,etc). So when all my friends can say where in England, Ireland, Germany they originated from and they can even go to the tribe they were were from and talk about a specific Celtic tribe and the norms and mores that tribe and all is well I am from somewhere in Africa probably the Western side of the continent...it makes a difference. I am very proud of my ancestors and current family but it would be nice to know what tribe and the norms and mores of the tribe so was from too. I would like to know what my people were generally during in the time period of the Middle Ages. If you have that knowledge it is easy to take it for granted.

@@Fallstorm777 so in short, it was important to you to feel a sense if belonging

@@jusletursoulglobaby More of a sense of historically complete vs. a sense of belonging much the same way an adopted child can completely love and be proud of their foster family but still have a desire to know who their birth parents are/were.

She does. Money talks.

Her test is a fraud. They base a Patriclan test of only eight STR makers (out of 700+) and the Matriclan on an incomplete mitochondrial sequence. At the 12-STR level a paternal haplogroup will go back 4,000-5,000 years. I know this for a fact because my 12-STR matches of FTDNA who have gotten their Y-dna fully sequenced have different haplotypes going back to a common ancestor 4.5kya. That's before any of these tribes even existd as they do today. That's before the Bantu Migrations. That's why I have a lot of Middle East matches as well. You'd need a 25-STR match to be related in the last 500 years. And with MAtriclan they are using selective HVRs. HVRs are used to determine haplogtype. They would effectively have to be claiming that certain haplotypes are exclusive to specific tribes, which is beyond ludicrous. This is basic layman knowledge. Dr. Kettles is a genetics professor. He knows better. Both he and Dr. Paige are knowing lying to people for and taking advantage of our want to know our roots for personal profit. It's a scam and it's disgusting. She also makes tests like AncestryDNA out to be nothing but "you're west African". They also have DNA matches. I have combed my DNA relatives and found 1 Temne, 1 Hausa, 1 Wolof , 4 Ewe and 9 Igbo relatives who are 100% African. These relatives are related within the last 300-500 years. That's kinship to actual people from which my ancestors are came from. Based on my own genealogical research I'm likely paternally Igbo as Virginia is where my oldest known relative came from which was primarily made up of Igbo slaves.

Some of the testing sites will match you with genetic relatives who may have genealogical information for you to build a family tree.