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Simulation of a M18 Hellcat projectile hitting the frontal armor of Tiger I tank.
76mm M93 APCR (4.2kg, 1.8kg tungsten carbide core) at 1000 m/s
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Tiger hull front armor (102 mm RHA at 25 degrees / 60mmm RHA at 10 degrees)
76mm M1A2 muzzle velocity (APCR) - 1036 m/s. 1000 m/s refers to a distance of approximately 0.2 km.

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@AlreadyTakenTag
@AlreadyTakenTag 10 месяцев назад
In the Finnish tank museum there is a KV-1 (1942 model) that has a dent from a soviet 85mm round that hit this exact spot shown in the video. And like the apcr in this video it failed to penetrate the armor. It's just a neat fact. You can go see it yourself if you decide to visit the place :)
@lepatriote9498
@lepatriote9498 10 месяцев назад
Funny you mention that, in the Armored vehicles museum in Saumur France there is a tiger with an impact in the same spot, and it also failed to penetrate. Don't remember what hit it though.
@PeliKarhu600
@PeliKarhu600 10 месяцев назад
in movie Tali-Ihantala they made the scene where KV takes that hit you mentioned, they didn't use real KV in the movie but it's still good Re-enactment of how it happened
@kaiplaysyt4091
@kaiplaysyt4091 5 месяцев назад
​@@lepatriote9498 I think it's because a collision with an another tiger 1 tank.
@atanarjuat6525
@atanarjuat6525 10 месяцев назад
Mesmerizing.
@penclaw
@penclaw 10 месяцев назад
Pénna Thrayshn
@penclaw
@penclaw 10 месяцев назад
POV: your small toe vs furniture edge in slow motion.
@elkrumb9159
@elkrumb9159 10 месяцев назад
I bet this would make the driver shit his pants tho
@johnhighway7399
@johnhighway7399 10 месяцев назад
Nope, he would just hear a loud thump, and in this specific case there wasn't even any deformation in the plating. If crews shat their pants, blew their eardrums and got concussions with every hit, then there would be a lot more talk about it in the hundreds of memorials out there. But from what we know, even a direct 152mm impact isn't enough to make them lose their focus.
@BKBCrAnK
@BKBCrAnK 10 месяцев назад
@@johnhighway7399Didnt Jagdtiger crews left their vehicles because of they heavy fire and hits they revived?
@presidentirinavladimirovna7054
@presidentirinavladimirovna7054 10 месяцев назад
​@BKBCrAnK that's partly due to inexperienced, untrained crews I imagine. Same sort of thing happened in the Tiger II.
@larryfoulke1596
@larryfoulke1596 10 месяцев назад
​@@BKBCrAnKwell probably,even if the hits not pen,if I hear it for many time ,I would abandoned vehicle,don't care anymore for jobs and order
@MacSalterson
@MacSalterson 10 месяцев назад
@@johnhighway7399 I mean arguably a 152mm to that spot would definitely incur some pants shittery. 152mm was enough to full on crack the glacis of a panther and according to testing would generate significant spalling when striking the glacis of the Tiger II, even tho it didn't penetrate
@trolski1618
@trolski1618 10 месяцев назад
that's why glacis thickness matters, even when it's a rare hit. Hey could you simulate a similar shot with something like a pak 40 against a kv-1s? As from what they know they had reduced thickness in that part compared to regular kv-1 tanks
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 10 месяцев назад
Someday
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 10 месяцев назад
He did a edge shoot video of KV-2 against a pz4. Not same, because Kwk40 has less powder and the hull armor of the KV-2 could be different but you get the idea.
@Foxx-oh9tj
@Foxx-oh9tj 10 месяцев назад
Interesting but i think if it hit a little lower it wouldnt have normalized so much and penetrated into the interior of the tank Would be interesting to see this same simulation put with the impact about 1 inch lower so the projectile is more aligned with the interior seam of the top and front armor
@insertyournamehere4328
@insertyournamehere4328 10 месяцев назад
The compressive stress of armor gives force to the projectile and it starts moving to the direction where the resist is minimized. It’s simple Newtonian principle of Action and Reaction, and Dynamic Equilibrium, but also profound and fun
@rags417
@rags417 10 месяцев назад
I like playing a little game with each of these videos by asking myself "will it penetrate ?" Got it right today for once !
@PeterMuskrat6968
@PeterMuskrat6968 10 месяцев назад
Knew it was going to deflect If the shot was ever so slightly lower it would have easily went through and gotten either a full pen or a partial pen.
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 10 месяцев назад
... it would have easily gone* through ...
@joshuasutherland6692
@joshuasutherland6692 10 месяцев назад
@@einundsiebenziger5488. . . . *its' wouldst haven't easiliest goings trough . . . .
@atticusmcbuddy6283
@atticusmcbuddy6283 10 месяцев назад
Lower front is a go through.
@Blast335pokemineblox
@Blast335pokemineblox 10 месяцев назад
Took it like a champ!
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691
@empire-classfirenationbatt2691 10 месяцев назад
Where are all those people on the poll who said it would go through😂
@PhoenixhawkPHX6D
@PhoenixhawkPHX6D 10 месяцев назад
Not every modern amunition will penetrate into this joint ( APFSDS )
@No_Way_NO_WAY
@No_Way_NO_WAY 10 месяцев назад
like butter through a knive
@Loplyful
@Loplyful 10 месяцев назад
*SHELL SHATTERED*
@thiagorodrigues5211
@thiagorodrigues5211 10 месяцев назад
Just like Otto Carius said, the shell would pierce it and it would deform like butter, not affecting the rest of the structure.
@Anlushac11
@Anlushac11 10 месяцев назад
I'm glad I didnt bet on that cause I thought it was going to punch right through.
@Nitrous_oxide_addict
@Nitrous_oxide_addict 10 месяцев назад
You should do ptrs/ptrd vs panther side with and without side skirt
@ciuyr2510
@ciuyr2510 10 месяцев назад
Tiger II from Belgium frontal bounce shots simulation when?:D
@cenakaze
@cenakaze 10 месяцев назад
nicely deflected upwards. The thick top transmission armor on the Tiger is no joke, I bet it can deflect a direct hit of 122mm AP fired from an IS-2. Next video?
@krautergarten4529
@krautergarten4529 9 месяцев назад
Please more in plane cut scenes.
@badlamplampgod1024
@badlamplampgod1024 10 месяцев назад
idk why i was shocked by this lol, here i was naively assuming it would be like alot of other sims and it blasts through like butter, instead this happens!
@Panzerkampfwagen_V
@Panzerkampfwagen_V 6 месяцев назад
I really wanna know if there’s any way to sandbox this
@otaviocamanho1135
@otaviocamanho1135 10 месяцев назад
A perfect 90º corner armor on a tiger side (the upper armor above the tracks and the flat upper hull side) . Thats one thing i would love to see. Right iin the middle of the joint
@xale3658B
@xale3658B 10 месяцев назад
Hellcat really just gave the Tiger a shave
@moistmike4150
@moistmike4150 10 месяцев назад
WW2 must've been terrifying! I'm just glad no on got hurt.
@MrEdis88
@MrEdis88 10 месяцев назад
Do you accept video ideas? How about T-70 light tank vs the Pz III, or vice versa.
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 10 месяцев назад
There was 5cm Pzgr 39 vs T-70 video
@annamorawska8281
@annamorawska8281 10 месяцев назад
Cool😊
@hussamisen
@hussamisen 8 месяцев назад
please what software, simultor or game do u use to simulate this?
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 8 месяцев назад
Ansys autodyn
@evil_wizard76
@evil_wizard76 10 месяцев назад
I got a hard one for you: a German long 88 apcbc hitting a Russian 122 aphe mid air
@patrykK1028
@patrykK1028 10 месяцев назад
In War Thunder that would bounce 120mm APFSDS
@amizaur3marcinostrowski186
@amizaur3marcinostrowski186 10 месяцев назад
As I expected :) deflected upwards by the mass of armor below it.
@blight1934
@blight1934 10 месяцев назад
impressive non pen. but look at the chunk of metal it took out.
@JuanMota780
@JuanMota780 10 месяцев назад
*hull break* *ammo rack exploded* *turns off pc and hits it with a bat*
@stephend50
@stephend50 10 месяцев назад
I'm very disappointed. Where's the kaboom?
@oqf17pdr
@oqf17pdr 10 месяцев назад
As I thought it would not penetrate
@osek1983
@osek1983 10 месяцев назад
maybe hit in vision on turet, is possibe to simulate?
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 10 месяцев назад
Maybe
@user-qn3xu5ee3t
@user-qn3xu5ee3t 10 месяцев назад
3bm42 VS leo2 side armor at 20 degrees?
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 10 месяцев назад
depends
@brokenglassboy860
@brokenglassboy860 8 месяцев назад
When your range off by 5ft
@Alguien644
@Alguien644 10 месяцев назад
What software did you use
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 10 месяцев назад
Ansys
@Alguien644
@Alguien644 10 месяцев назад
@@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 thanks
@jhonnyjostar1918
@jhonnyjostar1918 10 месяцев назад
Game name?
@hdnbros7059
@hdnbros7059 10 месяцев назад
Probably had a better chance with the apcbc instead of the apcr 😂
@nosferatustg7675
@nosferatustg7675 10 месяцев назад
So this is the unrealistic volumetric war thunder players complain about
@user-fh9lc5cy7f
@user-fh9lc5cy7f 10 месяцев назад
Теперь прицелься и бей ниже
@daiichidoku
@daiichidoku 10 месяцев назад
i find im always cheering for the non-existent crew's survival, or lamenting their demise on pens. or occasionally the grave and maiming wounds suffered by spalling. on people that arent even represented by pixels. lol
@HesFoset
@HesFoset 10 месяцев назад
This bullet hit an extremely angled side of the armor and could not penetrate the armor. Even if it penetrated the armor from the same point, the bullet would not be able to penetrate the transmission because there would be a transmission behind it and the crew would not be harmed.
@bastordd
@bastordd 10 месяцев назад
0.2km distance 😅
@rileyfahl9787
@rileyfahl9787 10 месяцев назад
APCR hates angles lol
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 10 месяцев назад
as expected
@simonemingozzi6859
@simonemingozzi6859 9 месяцев назад
Big bigger biggest Tiger 1 tank
@Marc-fm9dp
@Marc-fm9dp 2 месяца назад
I think that all American tanks are just not good in my opinion, especially the Abrams. Their rounds just dissolve
@carloseduardoverascosta9118
@carloseduardoverascosta9118 10 месяцев назад
for war thunder players.
@ChickenLittle2323
@ChickenLittle2323 10 месяцев назад
Called it... 😂
@LiezAllLiez
@LiezAllLiez 10 месяцев назад
APCR proves its worthlessness.
@johnhighway7399
@johnhighway7399 10 месяцев назад
You have failed every single American on the planet if you find yourself being a gunner in a Hellcat, one of the few early TDs capable of confronting a Tiger frontally, and yet you still somehow managed to hit one of the few areas of a Tiger that you cannot penetrate from just 200m away. There's baseball pitchers that could aim more accurately.
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174
@dejmianxyzsimulations4174 10 месяцев назад
Real life is not a game where you can use the mouse to target a weak spot in a second. Especially when a tiger appears around the corner and you know you will die if you are late. btw, I have already shown perfect conditions for this ammunition, Ferdinand armor
@otaviocamanho1135
@otaviocamanho1135 10 месяцев назад
In ww2 it was somewhat common to see a tank and just aim to not miss, not aim to hit a specific place
@IWannaSleepPls
@IWannaSleepPls 10 месяцев назад
​@@otaviocamanho1135If you hit your enemy before enemy hits you, you should consider yourself lucky
@Loplyful
@Loplyful 10 месяцев назад
Whoever hits first wins, doesn't matter where.
@grigor.h3929
@grigor.h3929 10 месяцев назад
No problem, Hit > Tiger Crew panic > next round, thats all. By the way , US tanks always fire the next round.
@Rider-lo9vt
@Rider-lo9vt 10 месяцев назад
Wehraboo as always. If you shoot at that point, it will naturally become difficult to penetrate because the upper armor acts as additional armor.
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