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Correcting False Beliefs about Calvinism 

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In this clip from the latest Apologia Radio Jeff interacts with an article about calvinism by Kwaku. You can get more at apologiastudios.... Be sure to like, share, and comment on this video.
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@ApologiaStudios
@ApologiaStudios 6 лет назад
For a good defense of what the bible teaches on this subject click here: amzn.to/2phOkvJ
@buckleupbuttercup3038
@buckleupbuttercup3038 6 лет назад
@Jeremiah Grant what symbol? because I kinda had the same question .I just wanna be sure I am questioning the same symbol as you.
@MrHenry911
@MrHenry911 6 лет назад
John 10:6 the Jews did not understand what Jesus was saying and in verse 34-36 He did not confirm their allegation that he was God almighty but he compared himself to the accusers and clarified himself by saying he is God's Son. How does a first Century Jew understand the term Son of God? bene ha-' elohim is found in the Torah in Genesis 6:2,4 It is also found in Job 1:6; 2:1, 38:7 Neither of these cases would indicate an equality with God. The Jews misrepresented him because they did not understand the words of Jesus.
@buckleupbuttercup3038
@buckleupbuttercup3038 6 лет назад
@Jeremiah Grantok , cool .that's what I have my doubts about thanks!
@MrHenry911
@MrHenry911 6 лет назад
Jeremiah Grant you shouldn't be worried but happy when one reads and analyzes the Bible
@chipseal9403
@chipseal9403 6 лет назад
Jeremiah identified "the symbol" this way; "the apologia symbol. 3 interconnected eye looking symbols" // The symbol is a triquetra. It is a classic representation of the trinity. Google is your friend if you want further details.
@amyntas97jones29
@amyntas97jones29 Год назад
Arminians often think that Calvinists do not evangelize. They fail to grasp the simple fact that most of the great 19th century evangelists were Calvinists, e.g., William Carey, Hudson Taylor, David Livingston, etc.
@QuakerTaker
@QuakerTaker 8 месяцев назад
without Calvinists there would be never have been Christianity or America 😅😅😅😅
@Terrylb285
@Terrylb285 8 месяцев назад
The Great Awakening
@brighteyes806
@brighteyes806 2 месяца назад
Lmao imagine thinking calvinism ever truly evangelised....the herecy of herecies...you believe in evil.god..wake up.
@Michael_Chandler_Keaton
@Michael_Chandler_Keaton 6 лет назад
Title discussion starts at 4:10
@Alex-ig5on
@Alex-ig5on Год назад
Thanks g
@paiger6058
@paiger6058 Год назад
Doing the Lord's work.
@lauracheever
@lauracheever 3 года назад
When I was a Mormon I GENUINELY believed that I was a Christian. I wanted to know Jesus and I'm pretty sure that most Mormons are the same way. The problem is that you won't get to know the Biblical Jesus until you're washed by the Word of God, which is a total catch 22 because Mormons are taught that the Bible has been corrupted throughout the years. PLEASE pray for Mormons to have their hearts softened so that they may read the Bible without their false predispositions and learn of Christ and His beautiful Gospel. They're drowning in lies and legalism. As frustrating as they are, don't give up on them! I was saved because long-suffering Christians taught me of the real, Biblical Jesus, and I am eternally grateful for their love. ☺️❤️
@emilyc.6861
@emilyc.6861 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing!! This is so encouraging to hear!! Praying for the Mormons 🙏🙏💕
@Vote4Trump2MAGA
@Vote4Trump2MAGA 2 года назад
To my dear sister Laura just to let you know you are saved but not because you are making a free world choice but because God predestined for you to once believe in the Mormons as he moved in your life and change you from Mormons to the true doctrine of the faith that you believe in now. Ephesians 1:4 and 5 please read it also Matthew 25:36 we were predestinated before the world began Ephesians 1:11 Romans 8:29 and 30 predestination is what Calvinism is all about and it's all biblical God bless you
@lauracheever
@lauracheever 2 года назад
@@Vote4Trump2MAGA When we don't cherry pick verses, the Bible teaches BOTH God's sovereignty AND free choice. They seem contradictory, but they're really not. Consider me a 10 point Calvaminianist. ;)
@Vote4Trump2MAGA
@Vote4Trump2MAGA 2 года назад
@@lauracheever Laura please show me a verse exactly where God's word gives us the right just to choose our own free will choice. Because I can show you 60 versus where it talks about the will of God which I really commands for us to walk a Christian walk my friend. Matthew 12:50, Matthew 6 9 10 The Lord's Prayer 🙏🎚️❤️ Romans 12:1 and 2 and many more but this is just at the tip of my tongue 😜❤️😎 Also 2 Peter 2:9 and 10 for the LOST, and Titus 1 7 and 8 for the SAVED.
@lauracheever
@lauracheever 2 года назад
@@Vote4Trump2MAGA Thanks, but no thanks. Even according to Calvanist theology, I don't have to BE a Calvanist in order to be saved, so this is literally just an excuse to cause division in the Body of Christ. I won't be participating in that. Have a nice day. ☺
@acrazyeagle1
@acrazyeagle1 6 лет назад
I am a non-reformed Christian. I watch you guys a lot because I love Bible study and have a bunch of Mormon relatives. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for standing with me and declaring that Mormons are not Christians. Your passion for declaring the truth is inspiring! It is an unfortunately rare thing to do these days.
@rippspeck
@rippspeck Год назад
Mormonism is the most American religion, tho.
@acrazyeagle1
@acrazyeagle1 Год назад
@@rippspeck Yes, I prefer my religions to be Hebrew. 😊
@uganda_mn397
@uganda_mn397 Год назад
Why are you not reformed?
@uganda_mn397
@uganda_mn397 Год назад
@@rippspeck american doesn't neccesarrily mean it's from God Jesus is from IsraEl and He is God that is what you should seek
@djs9315
@djs9315 6 месяцев назад
​@@uganda_mn397maybe he reformed out of reformed.. ie stopped being conformed to that which is deformed 😊
@A.N.T.0.N.I.0
@A.N.T.0.N.I.0 6 лет назад
There's some people that don't want to listen but to be listened to because they think that they are knowledged.
@user-rh5uu1td7f
@user-rh5uu1td7f 4 года назад
This is where all Bible believing Christian's can come together. Amen nice work God Bless
@brendanbrady1291
@brendanbrady1291 Год назад
Not true I'm being judged and looked down upon for being a Calvinist really discouraged.
@bobbycecere1037
@bobbycecere1037 Год назад
Fact check False. There is no denomination that doesn't look down on another. It's common throughout This particular religion.
@brendanbrady1291
@brendanbrady1291 Год назад
@@bobbycecere1037 it's pretty silly tho because we should all be brothers and we ought to lay do our lives for the brothers as John says. Secondary issues.
@bobbycecere1037
@bobbycecere1037 Год назад
@brendanbrady1291 I agree that every person of faith is my brother. Not just in the monotheistic christian world either. There's nothing I respect more than faith. But because I spend so much time in different circles, I get a glimpse at each denomination, trash talking all the others. It's quite amusing.
@PlanetRockJesus
@PlanetRockJesus Год назад
No. Calvinism divides the church. Calvin was demented.
@nickjaramillo9688
@nickjaramillo9688 6 лет назад
Excellent analysis of TRUTH vs frauds My brothers , God's REAL TRUTH always prevails
@stevebrandau9300
@stevebrandau9300 7 месяцев назад
All of the great theological questions are coming back around for debate and this is a good thing. It will drive Christians toward the scripture. As humans we are built to build a religion. We have come far from what the early Christians taught. That is why we are experiencing epic failure in the church. I enjoy the debates when they come from a loving position which is what I generally get from Apologia.
@timothychichetti347
@timothychichetti347 6 лет назад
Love you guys. Praise Yeshua Jesus Christ!
@kevinramsey2636
@kevinramsey2636 3 года назад
to say people cannot choose to believe in God is just false you don't believe the scriptures john 5:25 you gonna twist this scripture to
@kevinramsey2636
@kevinramsey2636 3 года назад
faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God
@christophersnedeker2065
@christophersnedeker2065 3 года назад
Amen
@northmd
@northmd 3 года назад
@@kevinramsey2636 to say God doesn’t choose people is false you don’t believe in the scriptures. Read Ephesians 1:5 your probably gonna twist this scripture
@19nineteenthirteen19
@19nineteenthirteen19 6 месяцев назад
I'm not a calvanist but I love this channel's content and I love James White too!
@ssoreal
@ssoreal 6 лет назад
...... I listened to this whole video..... Not a SINGLE..... Issue against CALVINISM was raised .... Or addressed...... You should honestly change the title of this video unless the title is click bait...
@BackToOrthodoxy
@BackToOrthodoxy 6 лет назад
ssoreal it was a great video but I agree lol
@BK-yz7px
@BK-yz7px 6 лет назад
I left a similar post. Click bait.
@DylanWOWilliams
@DylanWOWilliams 6 лет назад
Total clickbait.
@theavngr7800
@theavngr7800 6 лет назад
Seems like they lied
@faithafterdark7801
@faithafterdark7801 6 лет назад
Are you guys serious? The entire video they're discussing what they believe vs the statements that misrepresent what they believe. They even specifically clarify what they believe right after they quote the other guy who blatantly misrepresented what Reformed Theology teaches. You guys sound like you're all riding on eachother's coat tails and none of you even listened to it. What are you even talking about??
@PhilGeissler
@PhilGeissler 6 лет назад
Would love to see you guys have Leighton Flowers on as a guest.
@user-rh5uu1td7f
@user-rh5uu1td7f 4 года назад
Never happen Jeff would be exposed and he knows it.
@TKK0812
@TKK0812 4 года назад
@@user-rh5uu1td7f I think so as well. It's the same reason White wont respond to Flower's about having a discussion. To be fair, Jeff is different than a lot of calvinists in that I've heard him say that he loves Leighton as a brother in another video and I've never heard him talk bad about him. I think it would be a great, brotherly discussion.
@zachhalliwell3068
@zachhalliwell3068 4 года назад
@@TKK0812 James White has responded to Leighton Flowers many times in the past on his Dividing Line podcast. He's also done at least one public debate against him.
@TKK0812
@TKK0812 4 года назад
​@@zachhalliwell3068 Response videos are worthless for the most part in my opinion. I like Dr. White and enjoy some of his broadcasts but when he responds to Flower's or non-calvinists, I often if not always feel like he is still missing some key points. I'm sure White would say the same thing about Flower's. That why a discussion would be best. One debate on one chapter 5 years ago doesn't quite cut it. Fact remains that Leighton has an open invitation to Dr. White and to date Dr. White hasn't accepted. Make of that what you will.
@deangailwahl8270
@deangailwahl8270 4 года назад
@@user-rh5uu1td7f Wrong
@faithafterdark7801
@faithafterdark7801 6 лет назад
Jehovah's Witnesses also often misrepresent what Christianity teaches. It is not uncommon with cults. We all know that.
@defiance1790
@defiance1790 4 года назад
Faith After Dark I actually studied alongside JWs for about a year so I could understand them better... and you’re correct, JWs are taught to argue against Modalism and call it the Trinity as a way of straw manning the claim to disprove it. Which I find extremely dishonest.
@faithafterdark7801
@faithafterdark7801 4 года назад
@@defiance1790 Are you aware of their horrendous history of false prophesies, cover ups, pedophilia, etc? Pretty bad.
@defiance1790
@defiance1790 4 года назад
Faith After Dark pedophillia, no. I am aware of how they threatened to shun a woman if she left her husband because he was having anal sex with another woman and the Watchtower claimed that only vaginal sex was considered adultery... so the woman had to stay married to her husband while he repeatedly cheated on her and there was nothing she could do about it. There was another incident, similar case, except the man was having sex with an animal. Only in this case, the woman had decided to divorce anyway and get shunned. Good for her... except she still felt God had rejected her and eventually reconciled back into a JW. Yeah, there is a LOT of dark history The Watchtower hides from JW and the rest of the world. VERY sick.
@faithafterdark7801
@faithafterdark7801 4 года назад
@@ACTSVERSE No, Calvinists do not misrepresent the truth. I don't know what your articles are, but Reformed Theology is not a cult. You can differ in your theology, but we are talking about cults.
@faithafterdark7801
@faithafterdark7801 4 года назад
@@ACTSVERSE Show your work. Show me how in the name of God you could actually back up that Reformed Theology is a cult. The fact that you combine them in with JWs & Mormons has to be the most ludicrous claim I've ever seen. Do you even have 30 seconds into cultic study? I've got 30 years.
@joshua.snyder
@joshua.snyder 6 лет назад
Kwaku didn't want to listen, nor open himself to truth. It is common for Mormons to deflect criticism by pointing to the flaws they see in others or creating strawmen.
@3DFLYLOW
@3DFLYLOW 6 лет назад
Your religion is just as obviously fake as his is. Wake up from the delusion.
@jhowe5571
@jhowe5571 6 лет назад
3DFLYLOW... Do you consider yourself to be a good person?
@tonyroy8410
@tonyroy8410 6 лет назад
nope not at all, I consider myself a rretch not deserving of God's grace yet He still gives it me freely.....ps stop copying Ray Comfort
@CC-ee7bj
@CC-ee7bj 6 лет назад
Hey, brother Ray might seem goofy to unbelievers but I think his system has merit. No harm in using it, provided you understand its purpose.
@tonyroy8410
@tonyroy8410 6 лет назад
I use his techniques all the time but I disagree with him on false converts....there are seasons of salvation and spiritual maturing, God protects his believers from death during the maturing process, there is no such thing as false converts unless they are just putting on a show...I like Ray but he over thinks and and analyzes salvation too much...it's simple believe and confess with your tongue simple don't complicate it
@Kyle-vb3fz
@Kyle-vb3fz 6 лет назад
You do well to define the differences between LDS theology and biblical Christianity. LDS teach a different Jesus.
@Ryan_Zell
@Ryan_Zell 6 лет назад
Protestantism has fractured Jesus into 40,000 different Christ's. Each one a little different in each denomination, cult or sect. The Reformation is Satan's Greatest Victory: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UfOCqTfPXbQ.html One God - One Christ - One Bible - 40,000 Protestant denominations is total CHAOS.
@Misa_Susaki
@Misa_Susaki 4 года назад
No.
@CBALLEN
@CBALLEN 2 года назад
@@Ryan_Zell I don't believe there are 40,000 different denominations. Since it's your claim, Name Them.
@Ryan_Zell
@Ryan_Zell 2 года назад
@@CBALLEN Just opened a phone book. Go look it up at Gordon Cromewell Seminary. And lastly go to the World Council of Churches. The Bible is explicit, Jesus said "My Church," not "my denominations."
@Ryan_Zell
@Ryan_Zell 2 года назад
@@CBALLEN The Reformation is Satan's Greatest Victory: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UfOCqTfPXbQ.html
@billsmith2815
@billsmith2815 Месяц назад
John 3:20 For EVERY ONE that doeth evil HATETH THE LIGHT, NEITHER COMETH TO THE LIGHT, lest his deeds should be reproved.
@jay_gee3180
@jay_gee3180 6 лет назад
Unfortunately, there will always be those who will never change their views no matter what evidence is presented.
@leonardu6094
@leonardu6094 Год назад
@Logos Logistics lol what a sick view
@ReformedInChrist3
@ReformedInChrist3 Год назад
@@leonardu6094 or maybe just some people won’t change and that’s gods will. So many people no matter what you show them won’t change. Doesn’t mean stop spreading the gospel but that’s just fact not all will believe
@leonardu6094
@leonardu6094 Год назад
@@ReformedInChrist3 OR maybe Calvinism is anti-biblical and a false gospel rife with contradictions and morally absurd conclusions.
@leonardu6094
@leonardu6094 11 месяцев назад
@jackbridges1506 Just one example: Calvinist: “Unbelievers are blinded by total depravity, they are unable to believe.” Me: “Then why did God blind some of the Jews from believing if they are already blinded? Or why does satan blind people from the gospel if they are already unable to believe it? It sounds to me like people can be led astray, which means they can believe. In fact the bible says EXACTLY what is blinding sinners from believing the gospel, its Satan (2 Corinthians 4:4), not total inability.”
@goldengaming211
@goldengaming211 9 месяцев назад
@@leonardu6094How does this make it a false gospel
@mebsteve47
@mebsteve47 2 года назад
A man doesn’t choose to believe the Truth. The Truth is the power that brings belief in a man to life. A man can never take credit for believing the Truth. If a man believes, it’s the Truth he should credit for his belief. His belief would not have life without the Truth being shown to him. But a man can choose to deny, reject or suppress the Truth. Rejecting the Truth leads to his own demise. It is utterly destructive to reject the truth and can destroy many lives. A man should receive all the credit for rejecting the Truth and should suffer rightly for it.
@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist
Free will! God allows us to do whatever we want to do, to the point where people can even become self-deceived if you think about it he truly gives us the the ability to choose!
@mebsteve47
@mebsteve47 Год назад
Well we don’t have the choice to be Saved but we do have the choice to reject his Salvation. If a murder is saved from the death penalty, it’s because someone else paid his debt. Then it’s because someone else shared the Good News with him. He may reject it at first but the Truth will begin to work on his heart and will set him free. When belief in the one who died has come alive in him he will be free. When authentic Faith in the Savior comes alive, Hope, Thankfulness, Joy, and Peace will come alive in him. As the message of the Sacrifice works in his heart, Love will come alive in him and New Desires will come alive in him. It’s the Work of God through the Cross of Christ, through the Spirit in the Sacrifice that transforms us. It’s when our eyes are open to the Spirit of God who demonstrated his love for us in the cross that we are changed. We are born again when the Spirit of God enters our life. When his Spirit is revealed to us through the cross we are born of the Spirit and transformed by God. The Holy Spirit is God. Its God who enters our minds and hearts through the Cross and makes us New. We do nothing. He does it all! If we don’t reject him! We can’t choose salvation but we can choose to reject his salvation. So Calvinism is partially right and traditionalism is partially right.
@seanrathmakedisciples1508
@seanrathmakedisciples1508 6 лет назад
Forget about the Catholic priest Calvin and believe the word of god.Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus will be saved and god wants all people to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever believes in Jesus will be saved . Calvin is not in the Bible just fix your eyes on Jesus the author and finisher of your faith and salvation.
@stephen4384
@stephen4384 5 лет назад
Amen. God bless you.
@nojustno1216
@nojustno1216 4 года назад
Spot on.
@Ketolori
@Ketolori 4 года назад
Amen
@chacehui6393
@chacehui6393 3 года назад
Calvin was a Protestant..................................
@seanrathmakedisciples1508
@seanrathmakedisciples1508 3 года назад
@Bean team All Protestants and Catholics need a savior as we all have sinned and need a savior and Jesus is the savior of the world. Jesus Christ is the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world including all mine and yours. Have you received your free gift of forgiveness and salvation by doing business directly with the Lord Jesus. Call on Jesus right now and settle your salvation and forgiveness of sins. Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord Jesus is forgiven and saved. Call on Jesus right now and deciding to follow Jesus forevermore
@MrTrecamp1
@MrTrecamp1 6 лет назад
Why don't you do a one on one debate between you and youtube Christian apologist Leighton Flowers about Calvinism. He is a former calvinist of 20+years with strong arguments against the theory of Calvinism. That's what your viewers want to see. Not you debating a guy who clearly doesn't fact check any of the lies he is taught from his elders in a devil cult. Thumbs up if anyone else's agrees
@ApologiaStudios
@ApologiaStudios 6 лет назад
Flowers has already been thoroughly refuted publicly in a debate with Dr. White. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_wuDloSP-VU.html
@BK-yz7px
@BK-yz7px 6 лет назад
Darenegadegeneral Dr. Flowers has made attempts to debate/discuss Calvinism with Jeff Durbin in the past, but Durbin has blown Dr. Flowers off. Dr. Flowers showed proof of their interactions on one of his shows. James White hates Dr. Flowers, and apparently that’s influenced Jeff Durbin. Yet, Durbin doesn’t shy away from dealing with Steven Anderson. 🤦‍♂️
@BK-yz7px
@BK-yz7px 6 лет назад
Apologia Studios False. James White dodged a ton of questions. Anyone who can take a step back and look at the arguments and not focus on the technicalities of a debate can see James White refusing to deal with the arguments of Dr. Flowers. Not to mention White misleading everyone into thinking Dr. Flowers deviated from the topic. Dr. Flowers showed proof on his show of pre-debate interactions with Dr. White, and Dr. White gave the thumbs up for Dr. Flowers to approach the text the way he did. Maybe more people would trust you guys if you were a bit more honest. Some of us can see right through your tactics.
@tonyroy8410
@tonyroy8410 6 лет назад
jeff does not have the natural balls or the intellectual balls nor the spiritual balls to debate Leighton, Leighton would wipe the floor with him!!
@BK-yz7px
@BK-yz7px 6 лет назад
tony roy Exactly. Who cares if his idol named James White has debated Leighton Flowers. He needs to be his own man.
@ohperry1978
@ohperry1978 6 лет назад
Great video! I think it is very appropriate of them to challenge and refute the most prevalent-and dangerous-heresies in our time. It is a worthwhile use of resources and time for this ministry. Just as it was for the apostles and early Church. What we believe about Christ, the true Son of God, absolutely matters. Believing in the wrong, or false, Messiah is really a form of idolatry. We must not get this wrong.
@evelynscott9643
@evelynscott9643 6 лет назад
Mormonism+ freemason = occult.
@evanu6579
@evanu6579 6 лет назад
Samuel Cogan Why wouldn’t Calvinism also fit into the category of “cult”?
@ohperry1978
@ohperry1978 6 лет назад
@@evanu6579 Hello Evan U. I didn't call anything a cult, but I was referring to how Apologia will confront and refute (but in a loving and respectful way, which is very important) Mormonism and Jehovah's witnesses. Those groups do not worship as God the same Christ as we biblical Christians do. I don't know a lot about Calvinism, but from what I've studied so far, it appears to be solidly grounded in the Scripture.
@evanu6579
@evanu6579 6 лет назад
Samuel Cogan I’m sorry, it was Evelyn who used the word “cult”. Can I give you something to think about in regards to total inability? They say that regeneration happens before faith and that dead men can’t believe or do anything good in the sight of God. That’s the foundation for Calvinism. Because you’re so incapable you cannot meet any condition that God would give in order for you to be saved. You’re a God hater until the rebirth and could never repent and believe. But.... Regeneration happens after faith.... Jhn 7:38 He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. 39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) All that believed would receive the Spirit after Jesus’ resurrection and ascension.... Jhn 14: 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Jhn 15: 26 ¶ But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: Jhn 16: 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. The Holy Spirit is first given here.... Jhn 20: 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: So they didn’t receive the Holy Spirit until after the resurrection as Jesus stated in John 7. That’s well after the disciples believed, and many others as well...... Jhn 2: 23 ¶ Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. Luk 7: 50 ¶ And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace. Even after the resurrection, faith still preceded regeneration..... Eph 1: 13 ¶ In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him. Just to clarify what regeneration is. It is the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.... Rom 8: 9 ¶ But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Spiritual life happens after belief..... Jhn 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. The disciples hadn’t received this life before the resurrection of Christ..... Jhn 14:19 ¶ Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. Peter hadn’t yet been converted..... Luk 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren. (Matt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.) I’d be happy to discuss anything biblical with you. These are important topics. God bless
@ohperry1978
@ohperry1978 6 лет назад
@@evanu6579 interesting. Thanks for the feedback
@deadhead856
@deadhead856 6 лет назад
That ending point was amazing
@kraff1993
@kraff1993 3 года назад
He who has ears let him hear.
@annakimborahpa
@annakimborahpa 2 года назад
1) John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, Book III, Chapter 21, Paragraph 7: "...God by his eternal and immutable counsel determined once for all those whom it was his PLEASURE one day to admit to salvation, and those whom, on the other hand, it was his PLEASURE to doom to destruction." 2) Ezekiel 18: 23, 32 (ESV): "Have I any PLEASURE in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord GOD, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?" ... "For I have NO PLEASURE in the death of anyone, declares the Lord God, so turn and live."
@ericsenecal9203
@ericsenecal9203 2 года назад
God Bless you brother I pray others see the truth in the scriptures and Gods love for the world and not the tradition of men. Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
@ThumbKnuckle
@ThumbKnuckle 2 года назад
I used to be a calvinist knowing that I couldn't be an arminian biblical, but investigation of tulip theology in contrast with the Lutheran view I have a huge problem with limited atonement in an intratemporal sense. I still believe that calvinists are brothers, but I cannot be a 5 point calvinist.
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
go watch gene kim on calvinism. get out of those places and just be a bible believer !!
@Mike-qt7jp
@Mike-qt7jp Год назад
So, CALVINISTS believe that God arbitrarily creates some people for one reason; to burn for eternity in hell. They can't accept Christ dying on the cross for their sins. God somehow gets glory for making them sinners and sending them to hell. So, from the very start, God tells Adam and Eve, do not eat from the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, and yet He makes them eat from that very tree, since as per Calvinism, EVERYTHING is God's will. God gives the Ten Commandments, thou shall have no other gods before me, and then makes people worship false gods. God says, do not take God's name in vain, and then makes countless millions do that very thing. God says, do not kill, steal, commit adultery etc and then makes countless millions do the very things He says, don't do. A serial child molesting rapist/murderer is simply doing what God has ordained for him to do? You think of all the evil that is perpetrated on innocent people by evil, wicked, satanically driven individuals, and you want me to believe that God 's will is being carried out? The Bible says, God is holy, righteous, and full of mercy. AND the Bible says, God is love. God's will is not being carried out, at least not in the way Calvinists say. My Bible says, God is not willing that any should perish." and yet, it also has Jesus saying, "Broad is the road that leads to destruction (hell) and many are on it, but straight and narrow is the road that leads to life (Heaven) and few ever find it." So, while God is not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance and be saved, many, in fact, most are not. Calvinism has a problem with the Sovereignty of God. They just can't grasp that God, in His Sovereignty, can give man a degree of free will. Hence, Joshua can say, "Choose you this day whom you will serve." In act 17:30 God can call men everywhere to repent, that is , to change their mind about sin and turn from it and turn to God through Christ. Why are we called in the Bible to share the Gospel with the lost and lead them to Christ, if it won't matter; after all, God decides who is saved and who is lost, our preaching won't change that. If our preaching would in some way help them make a decision for Christ, that would imply some degree of free will. You mention how the Bible says, "No one can come to me unless the Spirit draws him..." It doesn't say, no one can come to me unless the Father MAKES him come. Yes, unless the Holy Spirit is working we can't come to Christ, but when He draws us we are now able to say Yes or NO to His call. Again, that's why and how Joshua can say, "Choose you this day whom you will serve." The Calvinist God seems to be saying one thing in scripture and then going against His own words by making humans do the very things He says for us not to do.
@JoshuAhillyarD89
@JoshuAhillyarD89 6 лет назад
This is unrelated Jeff, but my wife and I wanted to donate to end abortion now, but kinda want to see a financial breakdown. How can we go about finding out about that?
@jmorra
@jmorra 4 года назад
Listening to Kwaku is like someone applying a belt sander to my ears.
@josiahpulemau6214
@josiahpulemau6214 2 года назад
Ezekiel 36 “I will” statement’s or Ephesians 2 just a couple of passages that shuts down this notion of “free will” outside of God’s sovereignty
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
sounds like you didn't read ephesians 1 11In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: 12That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. 13In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, God's will is that you FIRST trust in Christ. AFTER you believe, THEN you get the Holy Spirit
@jacobjohnson5992
@jacobjohnson5992 6 лет назад
The very last thing Pastor Jeff says about Kwayku nailed it shut. "He has all this room in his theology for all forms of worship of Jesus..."EXCEPT who He really is! That is the TRUE VINE. The way, the truth, and the life! I have no problem knowing that faith in Jesus Christ as Yeshua, the blood of the lamb for which I am saved, is the ONE AND ONLY TRUE WORD OF GOD! I say it all the time but because it is relevant and true I thank you guys for your dedication to spreading the TRUTH. Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be called children of God. Cheers guys
@dude8223
@dude8223 Год назад
I used to think Calvinist where heritics. But the ppl who was telling me what the believed was lieing or misstepresenting what they believe. I dont call myself a calvinists, but i definitely consider myself reformed. When i actually heard what reformed theology taught i agreed completly. But i was once strongly against anyone claiming to be a Calvinist but i was ignorant of their true beliefs. I think allot of ppl create strawmen arguments or missrepresent them and they KNOW better. They just dont want others to learn the truth. So glad God showed me the truth regardless of those missleading me.
@supermanfan600
@supermanfan600 6 лет назад
Kwaku.. Is a smart young man.. But he is soo blind to the truth. I pray God softens his heart to a heart of flesh.. But he needs to think about these truths that were presented to him that he quickly dismissed without ever even giving it any thought.. He's just a young kid who hasn't done any research.. Thinking bc he's read a few things on the internet makes his worldview correct.. He's not serving the God of the scriptures for sure. And his ego and arrogance in that debate.. By making noises in the mic just pure disrespect.. Yeah I'm sure anyone that watched him.. Clearly sees a young adolescent that knows nothing about these issues. I pray God draws him and he truly repents and comes to the one true God.
@Jeremiah17910
@Jeremiah17910 2 года назад
Not really smart, he is very ignorant of the truth, because he deliberately goes against God's word, and there is no smart in that, very ignorant, stupid, foolish, and rebellious, he is, but not smart. Only God can break the darkness that has completely blinded this man from the truth of God's word.
@mel8469
@mel8469 3 года назад
Grace and Peace to all❤
@TheDeathInTheAir
@TheDeathInTheAir 6 лет назад
Why do I always get a Mormon ad when I watch ur videos? Ironic...
@forscience9977
@forscience9977 3 года назад
Same
@BionicPig95
@BionicPig95 Месяц назад
Because you’re too cheap to pay for RU-vid premium
@Tallow250
@Tallow250 2 года назад
It must be tough building a youtube mini empire and have it based on wrong theology.
@Bethanywatts33
@Bethanywatts33 6 лет назад
Please do a video on the Hebrew Roots Movement!!!
@una1085
@una1085 6 лет назад
Rae Smith Yes. Please do. It is all over the internet and is leading many astray.
@timsharpe6652
@timsharpe6652 6 лет назад
I agree . I havnt done my homework at all on this . Not gonna lie! But I'm subscribed to a channel which I'm thinking they may be in the Hebrew roots. Just not confident enough in my discernment regarding thia. And me not doing homework on the subject . I would love this though :)
@Kyradrin
@Kyradrin 6 лет назад
"WWUTT" (When We Understand The Text) has already done that. Check out their channel.
@jacobkaplan84
@jacobkaplan84 6 лет назад
John 7:24“Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”
@evanu6579
@evanu6579 6 лет назад
Una Discamus I’m not a Calvinist and believe that people can be led astray. I’m confused why you believe that (assuming you’re a Calvinist). Just trying to understand. Thanks.
@christianamericandominican2470
@christianamericandominican2470 4 года назад
Michael Brown is a charismatic preacher. How is he a spectacular follower of scriptures?
@Jake_from_State_Farm
@Jake_from_State_Farm 3 года назад
New subscriber! So excited to learn and grow
@scottsprowl7484
@scottsprowl7484 6 месяцев назад
Did John Calvin not put to death or was instrumental in the death of Michael Sevitus? Servitus being a monotheis. Also Calvinism is named of course after a man that wanted to rip out the book of James. Maybe it's a good idea to obey the word rather than try to change it, or come up with your own doctrines. Most if not all of Calvin's points can be disproven by the Holy Scriptures.
@jeffsatterthwaite9874
@jeffsatterthwaite9874 6 лет назад
Great job guys! Thank you for standing up for the truth!
@joningram4187
@joningram4187 2 года назад
Calvanism is NOT the truth!
@onedone7988
@onedone7988 Год назад
The truth is Jesus, John 14:6 (KJV) Calvinism is an interpretation using false non biblical lingo such as TULIP Monergism vs Synergism Calvinism vs Arminianism All of these are heritcal and unbiblical
@Mike-qt7jp
@Mike-qt7jp Год назад
In Jeremiah 19:5 God says, “They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal-something I did NOT COMMAND or mention, nor did it enter my mind.” 2nd Peter 3:9 says, “The Lord is…not willing that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to repentance.” and yet, it also has Jesus saying, "Broad is the road that leads to destruction (hell) and many are on it, but straight and narrow is the road that leads to life (Heaven) and few ever find it."
@deeveevideos
@deeveevideos 8 месяцев назад
1 Timothy 4:10 - The New International Version (NIV) 10 That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all people, and especially of those who believe. 1 Cor 15:22 for even as in Adam all die, so also in the Christ all shall be made alive
@987654bc
@987654bc 5 лет назад
Excellent. Great job guys!
@dw6528
@dw6528 2 года назад
DW: Question: Peter Van Inwagen: -quote 1) Determinism may now be defined: it is the thesis that there is at any instant *EXACTLY ONE* physically possible future. 2) The *COMMONLY UNDERSTOOD* definition for the term *CHOICE* entails a *NECESSARY CONDITION* of a minimum of 2 options *OPEN* and available from which to select. Example 1: [A] vs [B] Example 2: [A] vs [NOT A] 3) In a 100% meticulously predestined world - every impulse permitted to come to pass within man's brain at any instance in time - is limited to ONE SINGLE PREDESTINED RENDERED-CERTAIN impulse - FIXED in the past - which comes to pass within man's brain by antecedent factors outside of his brain's control. And man is granted NO CHOICE in the matter of what that impulse will be - and NO ability to refrain. 4) In such a world - there is no such thing as multiple options *OPEN* and available to the creature from which to select. Thus the *NECESSARY CONDITION* for *CHOICE* does not exist. So in what sense then - is man granted a *CHOICE* in the matter of anything?
@matthewtfields8566
@matthewtfields8566 6 лет назад
I wish I could sit down with a Calvinist and read the scripture. I find this interesting because, I feel my current mission is to talk with Mormons. Honestly I learned what not to do.
@kristenspencer9751
@kristenspencer9751 Год назад
start by talking to people at your own church...co-workers, etc.
@michelerivera2330
@michelerivera2330 Месяц назад
Very great discussion here👏
@Zomfoo
@Zomfoo 4 года назад
Sure, under Calvinism man is free to choose within the limits of his nature. Since all are born with a fallen nature utterly unable to turn to God (total depravity) unless God unilaterally chooses to save him (unconditional grace) and God does not choose all (limited atonement) unchosen man is not free to refrain from rejecting God. So such men are not free to choose God because of their nature (over which they have no control). The unchosen are therefore damned eternally for being what they can’t help being. This is not meaningful freedom vis-a-vis salvation.
@mikewatson9413
@mikewatson9413 5 лет назад
Endless time wasting trying to defend your favourite "ism" this is not Gods will, Preach the gospel, put you heart and effort into bring Gods kingdom on earth, come on your better than this
@topsui
@topsui 4 года назад
See even this comment you make is a misconception about Calvinism. Have you even learnt about the doctrines of grace? Go learn it before making this comment.
@bobfridge
@bobfridge 4 года назад
A majority of their videos are not related to calvinism.
@grassCrow
@grassCrow 2 года назад
For Calvinists, it seems that preaching the Gospel would be pointless …. what would it accomplish.
@jessiejordan2853
@jessiejordan2853 Год назад
I've been seeing some absolutely crazy stuff being said about Calvinism lately. People thinking that Calvinists believe the exact opposite from what we do regarding grace and works. Where is this idea about Calvinism coming from?
@Mike-qt7jp
@Mike-qt7jp Год назад
In Jeremiah 19:5 God says, “They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal-something I did NOT COMMAND or mention, nor did it enter my mind.” 2nd Peter 3:9 says, “The Lord is…not willing that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to repentance.” and yet, it also has Jesus saying, "Broad is the road that leads to destruction (hell) and many are on it, but straight and narrow is the road that leads to life (Heaven) and few ever find it."
@oracleoftroy
@oracleoftroy Год назад
Frankly, there are a lot of "Christians" who hate Calvinism more than they love Christ and so are more than willing to disobey Jesus' commandments to not bear false witness or back up their charges with multiple witnesses if they think it will hurt Calvinism in some way. I thank God for my non-Calvinist brothers who do try to honestly engage their critique with our actual confessions weighed against scripture and avoid giving in to the temptation to just make up false charges and other low tactics.
@jemari2
@jemari2 6 лет назад
I have never heard an accurate description of arminian doctrine or traditionalist/provisional perspectives (soteriology). They always depict these views with a lack of charity and respect by using crude, unsophisticated descriptions without considering the views of those who hold these positions. So, I challenge apologia to afford the same respect to other soteriological positions that you demand from Mormons. If you did this regularly I would honestly by shocked.
@bible4truth
@bible4truth Год назад
He couldn’t listen, he wasn’t enabled to listen.
@bryanjacobs1423
@bryanjacobs1423 6 лет назад
There wasn't much about Calvinism in this clip. Is this mistitled?
@madjack821
@madjack821 6 лет назад
Bryan Jacobs yeah...I noticed the same thing.
@jhowe5571
@jhowe5571 6 лет назад
They were responding to Kwaku's article about Calvinism...
@madjack821
@madjack821 6 лет назад
J howe which I would argue is mislabeled as well.
@oracleoftroy
@oracleoftroy 6 лет назад
By Calvinism, do you just mean the 5 points? Calvinism is more than just that.
@jhowe5571
@jhowe5571 6 лет назад
Context... Kwaku has mis-represented basic fundamental teachings of the Christian faith and/or Calvinism/reformed theology. Kwaku claimed to have grown up in a "Protestant" Church and yet, demonstrates he doesn't know the former or the latter. Thus, the title to this video...
@new-mississaugaevangelismc7364
This a good reference also for our Muslim friends. Let us not partake in an ecumenical view that attempts to water down truth or attempts to persuade us to accept that which is false, for truth cannot be changed.
@austinkatz1551
@austinkatz1551 6 лет назад
Its so MINDBLOWING watching these videos where Apologia confronts and opposes Kwaku, over and over and over again in such a clear and precise way and to know that all Kwaku would need to do is watch and listen and he would see the truth, rather than choose only to live according to the lie and false gospel given to him through the cult he belongs to. (This could be said for all who give them selves to the cult of the liar; Joseph Smith) There is so much hope in Christ for Kwaku and others like him. Mark 4:9
@MrHenry911
@MrHenry911 6 лет назад
Austin Katz according to to this fool in the video there is no hope for kwaku if your God Jesus doesn't want him saved.
@austinkatz1551
@austinkatz1551 6 лет назад
@@MrHenry911 well who decides who is saved?? That question has to be answered according to scripture, not what WE think God should do. And we're all pretty foolish when it comes to comprehending these things. Just have hope for others and do what God says.
@MrHenry911
@MrHenry911 6 лет назад
Austin Katz it is answered through scripture. 2 Corinthians 5:10
@MrHenry911
@MrHenry911 6 лет назад
Austin Katz if you don't like that text I'll give you more Deuteronomy 30:19,20 "I have put life and death before you, and you must choose life so you may live" How do we CHOOSE life? Verse 20 " by loving Yahweh your God, by obeying his voice, and by sticking with him. Obedience is the way to salvation...or in other words God draws to himself those who have a heart that is rightly disposed (PS 11:5; Pr 21:2) Ac 13:48 "all those who were rightly disposed for everlasting life became believers. The truth is that every single human being is capable of salvation through Jesus Christ but not everyone is disposed to do so. That is why in Ps 11:5 it states " God examines the righteous one as well as the wicked one" This is how he picks who is saved and who is not
@petertherock7340
@petertherock7340 6 лет назад
Another problem with Calvinists is the almost near lack of any effective evangelism. That is not to say some don't try. I think a few people genuinely do. However, in reading over the public obituary of the late R.C. Sproul I noted that while he was a professor and teacher most of his life as well as the founder of Ligonier Ministries there seemed to be an absence of major evangelistic success by him. He wrote books, gave theological lectures, and promoted the heresy of Calvinism nearly all his professional life. When did he feed the hungry? Or visit the orphan or widows? When did he try to do something about poverty or advocate for the helpless? He was like Calvin who spent most of his life contending for his own theological opinions, and calling it "preaching the gospel of Christ's Covenant." How is Jesus exalted through the false teachings of Reformed theology? When is the love of Christ ever communicated to a lost and dying world because of what John Calvin and others have done? What do most Calvinists in traditionally "Reformed" churches ever do to win others to Christ? For the most part they merely attend church, listen to biased preaching/teaching which reinforce their own prejudices, and judge others who don't agree with them. This is what it practically means to be a "Calvinist" in America today. A few Calvinists try to reinvent the heresy to accommodate evangelical Christianity in the modern world. But the theology itself does not encourage evangelism because everyone is already predestined. Why bother? Some Calvinists try to point to Johnathan Edwards and Charles Spurgeon as great soul winners. However, Edwards was a judgmental Puritan who only scared early American Protestants into believing in an angry God twisted by the teachings of the same. Spurgeon was a Baptist who accepted Calvinism but he does not fit well into the narrow denominations calling themselves "Reformed." And these Reformed churches don't evangelize that much because of Spurgeon anyway. The experiment in Geneva was a failure because John Calvin failed as a loving and forgiving believer first. There is no love for sinners in this system. True Calvinists say emphatically, "God does not love the world. Jesus did not die for the whole world, just for some of us." Thankfully Jesus already founded His true Church long before John Calvin came along!
@emilesturt3377
@emilesturt3377 2 года назад
Calvinism is like this: God builds a house and makes people and puts them in the house. (He's the only fire escape. This we can all agree upon) He then determines, ordains, decrees (causes) that the people start a fire in the house - but in such a way that they somehow freely chose to start it and get all the blame. God then chooses to rescue some of the people out of the house. He could have saved all the people out of the house but he chose not to in order to show the people that he has rescued just how gracious He is and how fortunate they are because He could have left them like the other poor #@%+&*?s God then explains that He's reserved these others for the fire for no other reason than simply to make a point about how powerful He is, how powerless we are, and that He can basically just do what the heck He wants to, any time he wants to, because He's fully in control... (a controlling power tripper ! Thought that was the devil's job ?) The people He didn't save from the burning house still do serve a purpose though... they are visual aids - Praise God ! - highlighting to the rest of those He's made just how wonderfully awesome, holy, good, righteous and loving He is compared to the vermin He created to mainly hate on. And anyway, at the end of the day, whoever goes down in the fire in the house desered to because of their sin - which is such an outrage and offence in the eyes of Him Who (determined that they all be sinners in the first place and therefore couldn't have reasonably avoided being the little pyromaniacs that they are and who would eventually go down in the big flames) !!! ??? "Doomed from the womb" - J.C (John Calvin, not Jesus Christ) What a god !!! But glory to the real One X
@srivera6111
@srivera6111 2 года назад
Agree. I’ve been researching “denominations” 🤔 trying to reconcile how such learned men of the scriptures can ascribe to these men or women (EllenGWhite SDA) it’s Jesus we follow period not any of these wordy humans. Predestination coined by John Calvin is cultic period.
@emilesturt3377
@emilesturt3377 2 года назад
@@srivera6111 Agreed too! ... We will all inevitably be part of an interpretive tradition though whoever we worship with and therefore a question of authority is always relevant as Jesus said I will leave YOU (corporately) into all truth (John) and it seemed right to US and to the Holy Spirit (Acts) for WE have the mind of Christ (Corinthians) As Western Christians we may not agree with many aspects of their tradition but the Eastern Orthodox have definitely preserved the balance and the beauty with all things concerning God's sovereignty, human freedom, and the nature of sin and salvation. Worth an investigation! The Divine liturgy of St John Chrisostom is a 1600 year old (off the back of an even older form) thing of Wonder and beauty ✌️💚 it is pre denominational
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
the calvinist god is stupid because he held david accountable for killing uriah with the sword even though david only DECREED it to happen 2 Samuel 12:9 “Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the LORD, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon.”
@jacobsnyder6888
@jacobsnyder6888 4 года назад
We are not all Predestined we have free will to choose to believe in Jesus dieing for our sins or not. I refuse to believe that some people are chosen by God to go to hell regardless if you have faith in Jesus. If some of us are going to hell even if we believe in Jesus's sacrifice the what was the point in him dieing for our sins to begin with why would he go through so much suffering if we are predestined to go to hell it makes no sense if that is the case then Jesus could have just not suffered at all so I REFUSE TO BELIVE JESUS'S SACRIFICE WAS IN VAIN. HAVE FAITH BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST AND DONT FEAR GOING TO HELL JUST BECAUSE A MAN TELLS YOU YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO HELL IF YOU'RE NOT AN ELECT BECAUSE THAT MAN IS WORNG THE TRUTH IS THROUGH CHRIST AND THE TEACHINGS IF THE APOSTAL PAUL READ YOUR BIBLE PEOPLE GOD BLESS YOU ALL
@chacehui6393
@chacehui6393 3 года назад
Where does it say that
@chacehui6393
@chacehui6393 3 года назад
Also you just contradicted scripture. Read Ephesians 1 and Romans 8:29-30
@jacobsnyder6888
@jacobsnyder6888 3 года назад
@@chacehui6393 so you're saying you don't believe that Jesus Christ shed his blood on the cross for your sins and rose again in three days how did I Contradict scripture Jesus Christ did die for all of us not just a few and like I said I refuse to hear a man tell me im going to hell be cause im predestined to do so I don't follow a man I follow Jesus Christ and the word of my father God
@jacobsnyder6888
@jacobsnyder6888 3 года назад
@@chacehui6393 and you obviously didn't read the rest of Romans 8 31-39 because clearly 38 and 39 says for I am persuaded that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@jacobsnyder6888
@jacobsnyder6888 3 года назад
@@chacehui6393 you need to watch this guy's video on Calvinism ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-96D-hqCUEVs.html
@nwospidey5782
@nwospidey5782 5 лет назад
Per my experience, calvinists are always proud and they wiggle out of every verse you try to pin them down on. Talk to them in person, they are so puffed up it's ridiculous. It's as if you have to worship their philosophy to be considered right with God. When you disagree with their "theology" they would equate that you are disagreeing with the Word - this is hard evidence they are dangerously puffed up.
@oracleoftroy
@oracleoftroy 5 лет назад
I have the same impression of non-Calvinists. At least Calvinists have centuries old public confessions that their denominations adhere to. What do the non-Calvinists confess? It is usually like pulling teeth to get any clear statements out of them.
@sigalsmadar4547
@sigalsmadar4547 3 года назад
@@oracleoftroy what's do non calvinists respond with? That accepting a free gift is in no way shape or form giving credit to the acceptor for the gift. By saying that God chose who would be saved is making Him the author of evil. If he has the power to do that then why didn't he have the power to save everyone from the beginning? Speaking of everyone, you have to do some serious editing of the Word of God to get rid of ALL, EVERYONE, WHOSEVER, THE WORLD when it comes to who Yeshua sacrificed his life for. That saving grace is available to ALL.. How can you stomach limited atonement? What kind of an impotent god do you serve? Do you enjoy being unsure of your salvation should you slip into sin? Irresistible Grace = robots There is no True love without Free Will. I could rebut calvinism with so much more but riding in s vehicle has made this difficult. Challenge your thinking with the Soteriology 101 channel.
@oracleoftroy
@oracleoftroy 3 года назад
@@sigalsmadar4547 Where are you getting your information about Calvinist doctrine from? It contradicts our confessions and claims the opposite on many key points. This seems like a 9th commandment violation. If not, it would be helpful if you could base your charges against us on the Westminster Confession of Faith or the Three Forms of Unity to steelman your accusations. Don't just mindlessly echo what that grifter Leighton repeates ad nauseam.
@savedbygrace8337
@savedbygrace8337 Год назад
2 Thessalonians 2:13 “But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:”
@GreatLightStudios
@GreatLightStudios 6 лет назад
I love and respect these guys at Apologia Studios and value so much of their ministry, but Calvinism has severe issues. Scriptures like Ephesians 1:3-4 absolutely dismantle Calvinism if properly understood. I am producing a video teaching series which handles Calvinism's proof texts and shows how Biblically inaccurate the system is. Find this series on a playlist in our channel - "Answering Calvinism"
@freefree526
@freefree526 5 лет назад
Great Light Studios I am a Jew, however I would be highly interested in examining your channel.
@BRNRDNCK
@BRNRDNCK 4 года назад
How in the world does that passage debunk Calvinism? Have you ever actually listened to a Calvinist interpretation of the passage? You sound like you’re on the level of still thinking John 3:16 debunks Calvinism. Typical.
@GreatLightStudios
@GreatLightStudios 4 года назад
​@@BRNRDNCK - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IG490MgFjwo.html
@yhwhismywh
@yhwhismywh 10 месяцев назад
Maybe just correct Calvinism by throwing it out in the trash with all doctrines of men.
@farmerdan7197
@farmerdan7197 6 лет назад
Wow interesting.
@samuelcastillo425
@samuelcastillo425 5 лет назад
Titus 3:5 Paul talks about men being chosen and he clearly states that God chooses men
@apilkey
@apilkey 5 лет назад
samuel castillo Amen 0% man. 100% God. We’re saved not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost. Faith is not a work. ...According to Romans 3:28 Paul clearly contracts faith with works (deeds) of the law: ROMANS 3:28 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified BY FAITH WITHOUT THE DEEDS OF THE LAW. ...Paul clearly contrasts work with faith and faith NOT being a work in Romans 4:4,5: ROMANS 4:4,5 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of DEBT. 5 But to him that WORKETH NOT, BUT BELIEVETH on him that justifieth the ungodly, HIS FAITH IS COUNTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS. WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? This does NOT say “What must I do to save myself.” ACTS 16:29-31 29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED? 31 And they said, BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. The BIBLICAL answer to this question as clearly stated in this verse is simply BELIEVE. **The Reformer’s answer to this question is, “well actually sorry bro there’s actually nothing you can do you gotta be elected to believe first then God has to effectually call you and then He gives you the faith to believe.” If it was unconditional the answer would’ve been, “NOTHING. YOU’VE EITHER BEEN ELECTED OR YOU HAVEN’T.” But what was the answer? There was a CONDITION. What was the condition? THEY HAD TO BELIEVE. The condition was FAITH in Jesus Christ. God will only save us after we freely believe. Two totally separate events that tit seem to be conflating as one. Faith is not part of regeneration it happens BEFOREHAND. WHO has God chosen to save? According to the scriptures it’s not a group of random people but it’s a very specific group of people. God in His Sovereignty has chosen to save all those who FREELY believe in His Son Jesus Christ. NO ONE comes to the Father except THROUGH Christ. NOT “before” Christ so that you can then come to Christ. **You can’t enter into the new covenant without the Mediator of that very covenant!** That would usurp Christ. You can’t get the surgery done without the surgeon. You can’t be born again without the very one who regenerates you. ...This is WHO God chooses to be saved: 1 CORINTHIANS 1:21 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God BY THE FOOLISHNESS OF PREACHING TO SAVE THEM THAT BELIEVE. Q: According to 1 Corinthians 1:21 does it please God to save those that believe or does it please Him to save people so that then they can then believe after they’re born again? **God has sovereignly decreed to choose for salvation, only those who would repent and put their faith in Christ.**
@donnawojcik1271
@donnawojcik1271 4 года назад
Do you have children? If you TRULY believed that God could have predestined them for damnation would you still have them? If God spoke to you before you decided to have kids and have you the knowledge that they were going to be the “non “chosen “ would you still have them? I have come to find out that calvamists never believe it’s going to be their kids that are the mom chosen. They really believe that because they are Christians there’s no way God would do that to them or their precious child. I don’t believe for one second that any Christian who knew or truly believed their precious little baby was damned from the moment of conception would ever ever conceive a child. The Bible says what does it profit a man to gain the whole worlds but lose his own soul. So saying God is good to everyone just because they get the short life here on earth goes totally against what God even says. I would have rather not have been conceived and had not one day of sunshine them live this short life and suffer for eternity
@leviwilliams9507
@leviwilliams9507 4 года назад
In Roman's it says are will has no effect on our salvation. It's all up to God.
@leviwilliams9507
@leviwilliams9507 4 года назад
@@donnawojcik1271 Limited Atonement is the only issue I have with Tulip. It is not biblically well held, by Calvanists. They just don't explain it well. I guess I am a 4 point Calvanist.
@donnawojcik1271
@donnawojcik1271 4 года назад
For God so loved the world. What is your explanation on that. Also for it is Gods will die none to perish but to all come to everlasting life. So God wills for it, but then choses to make it Impossible. He desires you make it across that river he really does, and all you need to do is get in the boat. Oh but wait you are blind and can’t see the boat. God can Unblind you and allow you to see the boat because HE just said he doesn’t wish you to perish. But nah; I oh don’t deserve to be unblinded and get the very wish that God suppedily has for you to be saved. Oh well he wishes it but doesn’t use his infinite power to make that happen. Yeah that makes sense and doesn’t make this souks ridiculous 🙄
@danielomitted1867
@danielomitted1867 5 лет назад
Kwakus problem is he says much but knows little.
@63stratoman
@63stratoman Год назад
Arguing with a Mormon over Calvinism makes no sense whatsoever! Far too many other issues need to be addressed first. Refute his heretical Mormon doctrine and focus on regeneration. If regeneration happens, much of this will work itself out! If you want to focus on Calvinism, you can deal with Leighton Flowers, Dave Hunt, and others who intentionally misrepresent the doctrines of grace. Such professional anti-Calvinists should also be cognizant of the fact that people such as myself have arrived at the position we have not because of your eloquent explanation explanation of Calvin’s view but because I have examined their arguments against Calvinism in light of the authority and sufficiency of scripture!
@Mike-qt7jp
@Mike-qt7jp Год назад
In Jeremiah 19:5 God says, “They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal-something I did NOT COMMAND or mention, nor did it enter my mind.” 2nd Peter 3:9 says, “The Lord is…not willing that ANY should perish but that ALL should come to repentance.” and yet, it also has Jesus saying, "Broad is the road that leads to destruction (hell) and many are on it, but straight and narrow is the road that leads to life (Heaven) and few ever find it."
@Sayheybrother8
@Sayheybrother8 3 года назад
So much fun to see and hear how the Pharisees talked to one another. It’s like I live version of how Nicodemus must have felt. All Christ’s words were contradictions of what Nicodemus thought was the truth the way he knew it.
@wretchedsaint9191
@wretchedsaint9191 3 года назад
Do you think it's biblical to be passive aggressive?
@Sayheybrother8
@Sayheybrother8 3 года назад
@@wretchedsaint9191 sincerely interested in listening to discussions based in our time that mimic those we read in the Bible of discussions had among the Pharisees and Christ.
@rolandalbertus
@rolandalbertus Год назад
Greetings friends. I am reformed. So I believe that man chooses consistently according to his nature. And I also believe that man cannot choose (at least consistently or significantly as in the case of salvation) that which does not correspond with his (sinful) nature (I.e God). The struggle for me is the fact that man (for example I as Roland)as a individual did not choose or determine his nature from the beginning. So we don’t determine whether or not we are born sinful and we also cannot choose other than what our sinful nature demands (unless God intervenes through regeneration) So how then is the natural man really free? Sometimes it makes complete sense to me and other times it doesn’t.
@MansterBear
@MansterBear Год назад
The error is the assumption "how then is the natural man really free" The Bible doesn't say natural man is free, it says natural man is a slave (to sin).
@Jonathan-mr8pz
@Jonathan-mr8pz 6 лет назад
Repent from Calvinism
@captainmarvel76927
@captainmarvel76927 2 года назад
We pray for all that believe this origin of 3rd Century heresy and the conflict u have with the actual words of Jesus Christ the King. 1-3) All Christians subject themselves to one of four authority traditions under the Son of the Living God: Catholic/Eastern Orthodox, High Protestantism (Anglican/Lutheran, etc.,) American Christianity (Reformed, Non-Denominational, Evangelical), or their own private Opinion. Of all these "churches," only the Catholic Church has the spiritual and historical commission back to the Apostles and Jesus Christ. Private Opinion is condemned in 2nd Peter, and thus as an Athiest would say, you are a product of your religious environment. 2) The Bible and Infallible Judgement. It is a historical fact the official closed canon of Scripture came in the second half of the 4th Century (Councils of Hippo, Carthage, Rome.) If you grant Scripture is "the infallible" word of God, you must give the Church Bishops "infallible judgment" by the Holy Spirit that picked the specific books of the canon. You cannot have one without the other. If you reject the 73 book closed canon based upon the argument of Martin Luther, then you are rejecting a closed canon of nearly 1100 years. If you accept any non-Catholic translation such as the King James Version, you still must grand the men who compiled that translation infallible judgment, which directly refutes the Protestant Position. Secondly, what Bible translation do you use, and is it a good translation? An excellent argument for an English translation is the King James Version (but not 1611); however, the Douay Rheims is a better version translated over 41-42 years. Thus what version do you give authority to, and why, and do you grant "infallible" judgment to the translators. If you don't, then your translation is not safe. 3) The 60-second Position of the Church for Salvation is a confession of belief and baptism, then love the Lord Jesus and keep his commandments: (Acts 8: "Then Philip, opening his mouth, and beginning at this Scripture, preached unto him, Jesus. [36] And as they went on their way, they came to a certain water; and the eunuch said: See, here is water: what doth hinder me from being baptized? [37] And Philip said: If thou believest with all thy heart, thou mayest. And he answering, said: I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. [38] And he commanded the chariot to stand still; and they went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch: and he baptized him. [39] And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord took away Philip; and the eunuch saw him no more." "If you love me, keep my commandments."
@rolysantos
@rolysantos 6 лет назад
Question: Jeff have you ever debated or refuted Leighton Flowers? Opinion: The difference between those who hold to 'Sovereign Election' (Calvinism) and those who hold to 'Free Will,' 'Arminianism,' and the like, is this: Most Calvinists simply consider this a difference in viewpoint. Most Free Will, Arminians, etc.. say things like "I wouldn't worship your Calvinist God," "Your'e a heretic," "Calvinism is from the devil." For evidence, just look at the comments wherever you find a video regarding this topic. (hint, look below)
@nickjaramillo9688
@nickjaramillo9688 6 лет назад
It's not a matter of Calvinism Calvinism and arminianism just got to get off of that, no matter what the Bible says the Bible makes it very clear that has free will we're not robots but it also talks and makes it clear about the election that God does elect his own it makes it clear on both points you obviously haven't read very clear and you pick and choose what you want to see instead of the actual truth the Bible makes it clear on both both accounts
@rolysantos
@rolysantos 6 лет назад
Ok Nick! You may want to read 2 Timothy 2:24-26 and check your heart before your engage in dialogue. You come across and hostile and seeking to win a debate rather than to seek the truth. Your kind of rhetoric generates heat not light. That's my sincere advice to you. Take it or leave it.
@nickjaramillo9688
@nickjaramillo9688 6 лет назад
@@rolysantos talk about cherry-picking that's what you're doing you're taking verses out of context instead of enjoying and looking at the whole passage okay God knows the heart and he said you know them by their fruits a good tree, does not bear bad fruit you appeared to be somebody who says he's Christian but you're really not saved that's alright God will sort you out on Judgement Day
@nickjaramillo9688
@nickjaramillo9688 6 лет назад
@@rolysantos I know the truth and I'm glad I'm saved
@rolysantos
@rolysantos 6 лет назад
Nick Jaramillo Wonderful Nick. But your words are silly and childish.
@ksanofsky6
@ksanofsky6 2 года назад
You misrepresent the LDS faith all the time Jeff.....that's like the pot calling the kettle black. You are not preaching the correct gospel, you have no authority to preach the gospel and you're deceiving your followers when you lay claim to such beliefs and tearing down other religions you disagree with because it doesn't fit your interpretation of holy scripture.
@theburlyburrito
@theburlyburrito 3 года назад
For the past few years I was never certain as to what I believed regarding this matter. I was like a mix of Arminianism and Calvinism and was being thrown between them constantly. As of today I can now say that I have decided through careful examination of the scriptures and prayer that I now believe Calvinism to be the more accurate way of describing God’s plan.
@theburlyburrito
@theburlyburrito 3 года назад
@@Flowing_Waters I was looking at a video where Calvinist was answering to a video of objections to Calvinism done by an Arminian and when the verses Ephesians 1:4-5, Romans 8:29-30, acts 13:48, John 6:44, Romans 9:16, Ephesians 1:11, etc. where brought up the Arminian would constantly sit there and try to give an explanation of what they thought it meant and was constantly fumbling with these verses whereas the Calvinist just said “what does it say.” That really put it in perspective for me. And the verses above are also what I looked at.
@theburlyburrito
@theburlyburrito 3 года назад
@@Flowing_Waters Arminianism and Calvinism are simply 2 human methods to attempt to explain God’s advanced system regarding these matters. And I would see to Calvinism being generally more accurate than Arminianism at achieving this goal. And John 15:16 is great. It shows the total depravity of man, that we did not choose God, but that he still chooses use despite this.
@theburlyburrito
@theburlyburrito 3 года назад
@@Flowing_Waters Also your standpoint, as from what I can see, seems a lot like what people call “4 point Calvinist”
@shredhed572
@shredhed572 2 года назад
@@theburlyburrito It pleased God to save them that believe. 1 cor 1:21 Can't get much more clear than that
@Mark-ri8vn
@Mark-ri8vn 2 года назад
Jeff Durbin. You are a coward my friend and come out and debate Caleb or Johnny Robertson. Stop hiding behind “king Calvin” James White and stand up like a man if you think you have the truth.
@Mark-ri8vn
@Mark-ri8vn 2 года назад
Defending Calvinism? What about defending the gospel of Christ? It’s amazing how Calvinists pay so much homage to John Calvin who was a confused Catholic that got his teachings from another confused Catholic Augustine. For you Calvinist, you need to really do your hw about where this idea of “original sin” came from. In fact, like the Bible that doesn’t teach about “original sin”, the early church fathers didn’t either. Moreover, “faith alone” is a made up fable like “original sin”. You guys got the acronym TULIP by Arminians, not John Calvin or Augustine. So, quit telling people that they don’t understand Calvinism when you guys didn’t really understand it yourself until Arminian students came along to clean it up and provide this doctrine to you. Lastly, I’m a Christian who’s in the body of Christ (the church of Christ). Jesus said, “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:16‬ ‭ Friends, stop being Calvinists and be Christians only without these man-made titles. There’s only one church that Christ established. John Calvin and the reformers did not want to destroy the Roman Catholic Church but wanted to change their teachings. They started at Rome passing Jerusalem where Peter preached the first gospel in Acts 2. You can’t start from error and think you’re gonna find the truth. You must start from the very beginning and you’ll find the truth and it will set you free. Fun fact, Jeff Durbin and James White (who Jeff calls “king Calvin”) are cowards that won’t debate my brothers in Christ Caleb or Johnny Robertson. Yet, they would debate together some phony atheist instead and Mormons. Why? Bc, they are afraid of the Lord’s church which is why they made so many videos on the Lord’s church bc they can only attach within their four walls or behind the seasons without rebuttals.
@srivera6111
@srivera6111 2 года назад
I would press them to debate until at least one agrees. Don’t give up. I am still shocked how many (denominations) churches here in west Michigan are Calvin based! And I’ve lived here my whole life (60ys)! For the life of me I cannot understand how so many eyes are blinded by Calvinism! Such a distraction the enemy aka satan is loving it!
@ruelferrer996
@ruelferrer996 4 года назад
That your faith must not rest on the wisdom of men but in the power of GOD
@julianhouston.bondservanto1191
Calvinism is satanic
@malachistidd6246
@malachistidd6246 5 лет назад
Fethry Duck no it’s not...
@jhonatannunez3369
@jhonatannunez3369 5 лет назад
@@malachistidd6246 yes it is
@Melchizedek777
@Melchizedek777 5 лет назад
Yes it is
@jhonatannunez3369
@jhonatannunez3369 5 лет назад
@Johan Strydom nope
@samuelcastillo425
@samuelcastillo425 5 лет назад
So now what the Bible says is satanic
@Cato229
@Cato229 2 года назад
Labels video "Correcting False Beliefs about Calvinism." Just dunks on Mormons for 15 minutes, hilariously missing that the Mormon religion was closer in time to the invention of Calvinism than Calvinism is to Jesus founding his Catholic Church. Next time they start telling you Calvinism is old, ask yourself why they think Jesus religion was so weak it disappeared from history for over a thousand years and needed a lawyer to restore it.
@VirginMostPowerfull
@VirginMostPowerfull 6 лет назад
The problem here is that Reformed Theology as you say teaches double predestination, right there is the problem. In other words, God did not die for all men, he died only for some, and all the others are left locked into eternal failure. We choose between two distinct matters, if we cannot choose good or evil then God cannot punish us for choosing only evil. There is no real possibility for the un-elect to actually do something about it, and God doesn't care to stretch out his hand. It's like someone is holding you at gun point and tells you to either drink bleach or drink bleach, and then holds you accountable. Therein lies the problem, Calvinism is an exaggeration, an overdose of bad theology. However there is no need to choose, wow, between Calvinism and free will. Because Thomism, a Catholic school of thought rejected by Calvin, admits both the 'Absolute' Sovereignty of God and the free will to live or to die of man. To vulgarize it for the purposes of YT comment lenghts, it's basically an author/character relation. *The God of Calvinism reprobates by deliberately avoiding people who could be saved, the God of Catholicism on the contrary is the cause of their free will and so does not fight against it but writes it in the most mystical ways like an author.* *The God of Calvinism is ultimately forceful like a brute, whereas the God of Catholicism ultimately plays chess with himself.* Speaking of Gnostic heretics, I find it interesting that you condemn them so confidently, as if you were off the hook. Let me introduce you to one of the main guys who faught Gnosticism, St. Ignatius of Antioch. *RE:* We'll be speaking of the Book of Revelation, written in 96AD or so. About a decade later in 107AD the Bishop yes Bishop of Antioch yes Antioch where we were first called Christians ordained by St. Peter and taught by St. John, none other than St. Ignatius of Antioch. Well he writes letters to some churches while on his way to martyrdom, including the the church in Ephesus and the church in Smyrna, both mentioned in Revelation. What he says is so interesting that you will probably have to shut your brain off to come up with an answer for why both churches apostatized within 10 years. *Let’s consider just a couple passages from those letters.* To the Ephesians (another of the churches St. John writes to in Revelation: Rev. 2: 1-7), *Ignatius writes:* For if I in this brief space of time, have enjoyed such fellowship with your bishop - I mean not of a mere human, but of a spiritual nature- how much more do I reckon you happy who are so joined to him as the Church is to Jesus Christ, and as Jesus Christ is to the Father, that so all things may agree in unity! *Let no man deceive himself: if any one be not within the altar, he is deprived of the bread of God.* For if the prayer of one or two possesses [Matthew 18: 19] such power, how much more that of the bishop and the whole Church! *He, therefore, that does not assemble with the Church, has even by this manifested his pride, and condemned himself.* For it is written, God resists the proud. Let us be careful, then, not to set ourselves in opposition to the bishop, in order that we may be subject to God. To the Smyrnaeans, Ignatius warns them about the Gnostics, writing: *They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again.* Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes. But it were better for them to treat it with respect, that they also might rise again. It is fitting, therefore, that you should keep aloof from such persons, and not to speak of them either in private or in public, but to give heed to the prophets, and above all, to the Gospel, in which the passion [of Christ] has been revealed to us, and the resurrection has been fully proved. But avoid all divisions, as the beginning of evils.
@Catari777
@Catari777 6 лет назад
Catholic believers say that Jesus did commit two sins! Their Jesus can't be the saviour as their Jesus sinned and would NOT rise from the grave. The LAW OF GOD forbids people to eat/drink blood. Jesus did NOT sin against God's law. But Catholics and their popes and their catecise teach that the wine is transformed to Jesus blood when Jesus blesses it. Its called transsubstansiation. It is the blood of Jesus NOW then according to Jesus he drinks the blood and gives it to his deciples. If its the blood of Jesus then Jesus sins two times and HE CANNOT BE THE SAVIOUR. As the law of God forbids people to drink blood, and that they should be killed if they did so. Also Peter testify that he has never eaten any unholy thing in his life in the book of acts. So the teaching of transsubstansiation ALL WHO BELIEVE THIS IS OF THE DEVIL AND HAVE ANOTHER JESUS.
@tonyroy8410
@tonyroy8410 6 лет назад
well said!
@BK-yz7px
@BK-yz7px 6 лет назад
Destynation Y Calvinists condemn Gnostics, yet their whole system birthed from a Gnostic-influenced man name Augustine. Anything close to Calvinism did NOT exist amongst orthodox believers before Augustine came around in the 4th century. That’s historical fact. Even John Calvin and later Lorraine Boettner acknowledged this. I’ll debate James White and Jeff Durbin any day on this issue. It’s not hard to defend facts.
@VirginMostPowerfull
@VirginMostPowerfull 6 лет назад
Zomzibom I am glad to hear you've become Mormon, because only Mormons think the faith died immediately after the death of the Apostles. You'll have to go check with Kwaku for membership lol. On a more serious note, I guarantee you that all your objections have been addressed already by Catholic scholars and the like, it's a historical fact, we just have to deal with it.
@VirginMostPowerfull
@VirginMostPowerfull 6 лет назад
B K I must disagree with you concerning St. Augustine. His theology on predestination is very similar to that of St. Thomas Aquinas, and both of their theologies are not only accepted in the Church but exalted above all others. Only Calvinism got anathematized. For reasons which are obvious, even just on the level of predestination Calvinism teaches heresies.
@EricElias
@EricElias Год назад
someone up in the studio needs a cough button! lolz, Love what you guys do!
@beenxwoke562
@beenxwoke562 2 года назад
I’m glad I came across this, I just subscribed to your channel. Now that I know your Calvinist I can unsubscribe.
@Greg-n6t
@Greg-n6t 8 месяцев назад
Jesus is God in the flesh that's why he said when you see me you see the father
@deliadelgado3364
@deliadelgado3364 5 лет назад
It bothers me too when Mormons try to get on our level, my local Mormons will do that to us just because they think we speak the same biblical language but when we enter in specific doctrine disagreements, their true colors show... "One day I will be a God and you will bow down to me" thats what they end up saying because they are desperate to win a discussion. They need much prayer and hopefully the Lord has mercy on them! God bless!
@kimberlyr5858
@kimberlyr5858 3 года назад
It’s a tactic they do
@ksanofsky6
@ksanofsky6 2 года назад
No member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints has ever said that to you.....stop spreading untruths. We are heirs to his kingdom and as such are heirs to all that the father has. Romans 8:16-17 None of us believe you'll be subject to us.....That is simply not true.
@aletheia8054
@aletheia8054 2 года назад
Just tell them Joseph Smith was a con man and have a nice day
@ericwolford5685
@ericwolford5685 Год назад
Huh? We are all children of God. Even those who receive all that Celestial Glory will offer them won't haughtily demand that you worship us, because that's not the point of exaltation. The only one who did demand that was Satan, who was cast out for his arrogance (and his attempt to take away the agency of God's children, which your God has already done according to Calvinism).
@EmV-si1eu
@EmV-si1eu Год назад
I have nothing but a salvific longing and a deep sympathy and anguish for the vast majority of Mormons(90 +%) who are decieved and actually believe the tenants of their religion to be true! That being said, the highest ranking temple Mormons or the hierarchy know full well that what "they say" they believe IS NOT Christianity!
@ericwolford5685
@ericwolford5685 Год назад
(Citations needed)
@PracticalBibleStudies
@PracticalBibleStudies 6 лет назад
John 3:16-18?
@PracticalBibleStudies
@PracticalBibleStudies 6 лет назад
I wasn’t disagreeing with Calvin’s exegesis here. I was affirming the Calvinist/Reformed perspective. A person has already made the choice. God’s plan has yet to unravel in it’s full glory. If God is sovereign, He already knows who will be saved. This should be obviously consistent throughout Christianity.
@joelopez5005
@joelopez5005 6 лет назад
I saw the article was several months before the show . Did he re share it somewhere ?
@PlanetRockJesus
@PlanetRockJesus Год назад
Jeff, you are so brilliant. So repent of your error of promoting Calvinism. God did NOT decide who would be saved and who would go to hell even before creation. Calvin was demented.
@MansterBear
@MansterBear Год назад
Yea, where would Jeff get that idea from? It would be one thing if scripture said something crazy, like: " even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved." Wait.....
@juaneato
@juaneato 6 лет назад
Why are there so many warnings in the Bible to believers not to drift away, Heb. 2:1, not to fall away Heb. 4:11, not to come short of the grace of God, Heb. 12:15, not to shrink back, Heb. 10:28, not to be carried away by unprincipled men and fall from their steadfastness, 2 Peter 3:17, and not to desert Christ, Gal. 1:6? If all the elect are assured of persevering to the end, then why are there all of these warnings?
@fayelewis5476
@fayelewis5476 6 лет назад
Because even the elect can get sidetracked by lesser things.
@KISStheSON...
@KISStheSON... 6 лет назад
Juan Valladares Exactly! Because first you must understand WHO the elect are and how to BECOME one! Israel is God elect nation Jesus is from the tribe of Judah out of elect Israel and is THE elect of God :) WE Gentiles BECOME elect after believing in THE elect and being placed INTO his ELECT body! = elect IN Christ FROM the foundation of the world...HE was elect BEFORE the foundation of the world and Israel was chosen in him BEFORE the foundation of the world, but we as individual Gentiles are chosen AFTER faith FROM the foundation of the world! We BECOME partakers and fellow heirs of the promise made to the elect nation of Israel AFTER coming to God with faith in his Son Christ Jesus! Ephesians 1 12 That we (Israel) should be to the praise of his glory, who FIRST trusted in Christ. 13 In whom ye also (Gentiles) trusted, AFTER that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also AFTER that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory. Peace :)
@juaneato
@juaneato 6 лет назад
Stacey 6171 Who are the elect? How do you know you’re one? How do you know? I’m not a Calvinist. I don’t believe Calvinist reformed theology, TULIP, what have you. You say Calvinism is the Gospel. But I believe the plain reading of the Bible and I’m saved. We have problem and it isn’t insignificant.
@KISStheSON...
@KISStheSON... 6 лет назад
Juan Valladares I am NOT a Calvinist, somehow you misunderstood me :) Calvinism is NOT the Good News, thank God!...The Good News is that whosoever will believe on what Christ DID for the sins of the whole world shall be saved! As I said, JESUS IS THE ELECT, and we BECOME elect IN HIM because HE is God's anointed chosen one! After we believe on Him, we are placed into HIS (elect) body! We BECOME one with him! Does that make sense?!
@juaneato
@juaneato 6 лет назад
Stacey 6171 Perfectly. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Text is so lame sometimes.
@pamalawyerick2004
@pamalawyerick2004 2 года назад
The Bible does not teach reformed theology. The Bible is very clear that God is the sanctifier. Stop giving Glory to an event that happened in history that was probably not ordained by God because Martin Luther hated the Jewish people and mistreated them so badly that he was linked to the beginning of the Holocaust because he supported the German hatred of the Jews. No one tells that side of who Luther was because that would burst the entire calvinist reformed theology bubble. God used that entire event to put his word into English and it's my opinion that that was literally the only reason for all of that. If Martin Luther was such a great man of God he would not have hated God's chosen people and if Luther truly understood God's holy word he would not have hated God's chosen people. He was of a religious spirit! Just like the Calvinists are today! You all spend all of your time defending your false Doctrine and none of you spend hardly any time evangelizing lost souls! God did not say preach theology God did not say preach sanctification God did not say preach holy living God did not say preach anything but Christ and Christ crucified! Jesus instruction to his followers was not to go and make theologians. Jesus did not instruct his followers to go and defend a Doctrine. Jesus did not say to uplift or exalt dead men like Luther. Jesus said go and make disciples of all Nations. A disciple is not the same as teaching theology. A disciple is a disciplined follower of Christ. The discipline of Christ does not equate to theological Doctrine but instead it equates to submitting yourself to the Holy Spirit which could mean anything from helping a poor neighbor to standing In a pulpit preaching a sermon both of those would be considered a disciplined work as long as Christ was the one who directed it. You guys have taken the word of God and turned it into a religious dogma and you preach it as if it's truth but in fact you are preaching heresy because you are trampling the very spirit and truth of the entire gospel message. Paul the Apostle said we preach Christ and Christ crucified!!!!!! God did not send anyone to preach anything other than that. You people are so proud of yourselves but I hate to tell you that you're deceived and it was your lust for knowledge instead of your desire to obey the holy spirit that led you to what you're doing. You're not even obeying any part of the Bible. Pity! Let's not forget and make sure everyone is fully aware and can go and do your own research that the revered reformer Martin Luther absolutely despised the Jewish people. He participated in tormenting them and causing them great grief by stealing from them treating them like trash and encouraging others to have other Wicked satanic disdain for God's chosen people. The word of God is very clear that those who have the spirit of Christ will love God's people! By virtue of the word of God and the description of the spiritual state of those who are his, Martin Luther was a religious zealot much like the Calvinists false teachers heretics of today. The spirit of antichrist does not simply mean those who are openly opposed with malice but it also means those who try to replace Christ with some other system or some other teaching. I'm thinking that all of you are of the spirit of antichrist by definition of the very simple text of the Bible and what the spirit of antichrist is so I would strongly suggest that you repent and ask God to extend Mercy and teach you what it means to truly believe the gospel. God does not give Grace to the prideful but to the humble. Again your religious mascot Martin Luther absolutely despised and hated God's people! I wonder why no Calvinists ever talks about that when it's recorded in history because it was such a terrible thing that a man was claiming to defend the word of God yet he absolutely despised tormented hated abused and even participated in the destruction of God's chosen people the Jews! HMMMMM? I'M BEING A BIT SARCASTIC BECAUSE I'M SO FED UP WITH THE HERETICS OF CALVINISM. BY THE WAY, THE DOCTRINE OF ELECTION IS VERY MUCH A TRUE DOCTRINE BUT IT'S REFERRING TO THOSE WHO RECEIVE THE UNSEEN SPIRITUAL REALM OF THE ELECT JEWS TOGETHER WITH YOUR OWN FAITH IN CHRIST AND THE TWO BECOME ONE! THE DOCTRINE OF ELECTION IS ABOUT THE JEWS IT'S NOT ABOUT GENTILE BELIEVERS AND IT'S DEFINITELY 1 MILLION TIMES NOT ABOUT A JEW HATING HERETIC NAMED MARTIN LUTHER AND HIS FALSE DOCTRINES. JOHN CALVIN WAS JUST AS WICKED BY THE WAY! THIS IS ALL EASY TO FIND OUT JUST DO A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ONLINE. CALVIN HATED THE JEWISH PEOPLE AS WELL. GOODNESS SAKES IT SEEMS LIKE GOD MUST BE A BIG FAT LIAR BECAUSE GOD SAID THAT THOSE WHO HAVE THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST WOULD LOVE GOD'S PEOPLE???? ODD HUH? I HATE DEMONS! I HATE DOCTRINES OF DEMONS! I DESPISE PEOPLE WHO HATE GOD'S PEOPLE AND EXALT THEIR OWN SELF! I HATE HERETICS AND FALSE TEACHERS! BASICALLY I HATE EVERYTHING THAT GOD HATES BECAUSE GOD TELLS ME TO HATE EVERYTHING THAT HE HATES.
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
yeah God grafted us into that olive tree when we believed but he didn't get rid of the jews !!! they are his special people who sing a song in revelation that no one else can learn! the whole end times tribulation is about them getting salvation! that's why it's called Jacob's trouble!! calvinists get rid of all that. which is exactly what satan wants.
@pamalawyerick2004
@pamalawyerick2004 2 года назад
@@snackpup GREAT POINT!
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
@@pamalawyerick2004 yeah calvinists hate this verse! Romans 11:1 “I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”
@pamalawyerick2004
@pamalawyerick2004 2 года назад
@@snackpup They teach a milder version of replacement theology and it seems as though they don't understand the simple Gospel.
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
@@pamalawyerick2004 i know right! i can be happy you're going to heaven because of Jesus! and you can be happy im going to heaven because i put my faith in Jesus! but a calvinist cannot. just will not ever be happy that we are going to heaven because we chose to believe in Jesus! and I believed in God and called out to him when i was hurt before i was saved. but i was not saved! not until i heard the story of Jesus and decided to believe and tell him i want to be a christian. the worst thing is that an unbeliever can go to calvinist church and think they are going to heaven because they are chosen and do all the works. but then they go to hell because they never put their faith in Jesus for their sins and got saved! they never got born again! they just thought they were the elect automatically! ive been on fire against these calvinists because now i understand how bad their beliefs really are.
@Dubstepper777
@Dubstepper777 3 года назад
Pastor Jeff. I pray all is well for you and your family. My sister is a believer in the prosperity/word of faith gospel. How should I speak to her? I have been putting off for sometime and I want to talk to her about. Any advice? Thank you
@davidcruz8057
@davidcruz8057 2 года назад
No matter how many Calvinist videos I have watched, trying to understand what they believe it's always dressing up with “homiletics”, “exegesis” and "hermeneutics" the bottom line of what they believe, that never changes in it's basic concept: The PERFECT and LOVING God created beings that from the moment they were created they were rejected. created them guilty of sins they had not yet committed, and eventually punish them for those sins he would force them to commit, with eternal hell. My problem with the Calvinists is not that God can’t do whatever He chooses to do, my problem is that despite what they believe they could say He’s a loving, merciful and just God. I don’t doubt that if we’re going to base all this on the exegesis of ONLY Romans 9, the Calvinist has the upper hand. That’s a no brainer. The problem is that there’s another 1188 chapters in the Bible in which in many of them you find clear contradictions to the Calvinistic view of God and their interpretation of scriptures. So maybe, just maybe, especially if the Bible can’t contradict itself, Romans 9 doesn’t mean what it may “clearly” seems to mean to them. That's also a no brainer.
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
romans 9 is their john 3:16 but romans 9 does not save you Proverbs 16:9 “A man's heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.” man chooses his path. man plans his way. and God takes him down it you have to reap what you sow whether good or bad you sow faith in Jesus you have to reap salvation you sow sin you have to reap death. those are the wages. yet they sit there and say "sounds like universalism to me" they are perverts. of the Word of God.
@davidcruz8057
@davidcruz8057 2 года назад
@@snackpup “But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.” ‭‭II Peter‬ ‭3:8-9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
@snackpup
@snackpup 2 года назад
@@davidcruz8057 yeah leave it to a calvinist to not understand God's will 1 Timothy 2:4 “Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” it's so obvious and yet they cannot understand it. and worse yet, they call us stupid !!!
@blakelarson333
@blakelarson333 Год назад
“There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭10‬:‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬ I believe that God knows everything that has and will ever happen. I believe in predestination by saying that every situation that comes is allowed by God (For example Job, when God allows the devil to torment him) to teach you something but I still believe that there is a choice. You can chose to follow God or not(Matthew 16:24). Please give me scripture to counter these beliefs if you believe the Bible says otherwise and if it’s a matter of interpretation please give me the resources you use. My ability to understand the Bible is limited to the resources I have and I need to understand the Bible as God intended.
@j.huffhumble4281
@j.huffhumble4281 5 лет назад
Great video guys - I only have one question - this is 2019 - what about us human beings that grow up in hybrid teachings ? For example my mother raised me Mormon , dad was atheist alcoholic, grandma was catholic and step dad was evangelical !!! I grew up with all 4 beliefs - I was baptized and I love Jesus Christ through faith and grace because he died on the cross for my sins - I am born again I became a new creature when I was born again - and I was the prodigal son until I was about 35 - so what about me ? I know lots of people like me ? Where do I fit into all this ? By the way , all those people I mentioned raised me and I love them !!! Are we all bound for hell ? Can you explain that ? Kwaku is a young man ! I’m a 49 years old man ! Tell me what my destiny is .....
@chrishumphries7489
@chrishumphries7489 5 лет назад
God is the source of and revealer of all truth. Personal revelation is where you answer lies. "Ask and ye shall receive, knock and it shall be opened unto you." The Holy Ghost is your guide. People will say what they say. All will claim their way. Yet you must seek your answer from God. No, not all people are "bound for hell." In fact I believe only a very very few will not accept the Salvation offered by Jesus Christ when all is said and done. That's the good news of the gospel! He suffered for all of us and saved us from death and hell, which we could not do ourselves, which fate all of us would be consigned to. No, those good people in your life are not just "going to hell" but are saved, just as you and me and everyone else! We but need to accept what our Savior offers us! Having said that, the closer we move to God in this life, the happier we are and the more glory we will enjoy in the life to come. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints. I believe in the restoration of the gospel. That the church and fullness of the gospel of Jesus Christ was lost and is now restored. I would invite you to attend church, read Book of Mormon, study it out and ask God for yourself. I know that it is true for myself by the power of the Holy Ghost, and the testimony I have is from God and not from the borrowed light of anyone else. I know it is true because of that testimony, it makes sense in my mind and heart, and by the testimony I receive each day of living it. It is true joy and happiness. Good luck my brother, may you seek it out, attend church and ask God and find it out for yourself and may it bring you the "happiness of the saints" in this life and in the life to come.
@chrishumphries7489
@chrishumphries7489 5 лет назад
​@Johan Strydom We believe in a loving Heavenly Father that is the literal Father of our Spirits and we are literal children (Heb 12:9, Acts 17: 28-29. The greek word in acts 17 is 'Genos' meaning literal offspring, race, or kin. That is an extremely specific and meaningful word to use. We believe we came to this earth to receive mortal physical bodies and to be tried and tested. We are here to learn good from evil and to see "if we will all things whatsoever the Lord commands us." We are here to grow in knowledge and wisdom and if we choose the good over the evil, through Christ we may have power to become the "sons and daughters of God." In other words to receive our inheritance, to be crowned with him, to be JOINT heirs with Christ, not partial heirs. That is what an heir is. AN heir not only receives the families "stuff", they inherit the family name, brand and power. What a true heir says is taken as if it is the word of the family patriarch Himself. (The parable of the prodigal son is told like this, and that clearly relates to all of us). So is it weird or unbiblical view our Heavenly Father as our Heavenly Father?? No, not at all. I just gave you some scriptures from the Bible. Oh, you have a different interpretation..... So do the Catholics, so do the varying branches of the protestants, so does everyone else. God is spirit right? (John 4). Well if that is your definition of God, then man is also spirit and that would make man made of the same thing as God. Is man eternal? Yes. Is spirit eternal? You bet. Is light eternal? Is truth eternal? Is good eternal? Is matter eternal (science tells us that it is, that matter cannot be created or destroyed... right? See 1st law of matter, or the conservation of mass). So matter is also eternal. Well if spirit is eternal and we were created as holy, pure, and of goodness, being the offspring of God, and dwelt in the presence of God, then we began with Eternal light and truth. If we end in light and truth and the goodness of God and return worthy to enter His presence, then we ended with light and truth. Not only this but now we have Glorified physical bodies, just like our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ do. Jesus gained a physical body and has one permanently as Paul taught. So DID GOD CHANGE???? Well, yes if God is Spirit and that is His definition, then yes, God changed. That's a scary thought. But if God is Eternal and still gained a physical body and we do likewise, then are WE NOT ETERNAL. Hmmm..... Sounds like I actually think logically and rationally about this. And I use the Bible!! The whole Jesus and Satan being brothers is a misnomer and does indeed sound weird, because it twists our actual belief. We were and are ALL spirit brothers and sisters of our Heavenly Father. So are they brothers? Well spiritually, and only if you include all of us in there as well. We're not saints? Who are you to say that?? Are we not a people who strives to follow Jesus and His teachings???? Are we not taught to better ourselves and actually follow the Son of God???? Sounds a little pretentious and self-righteous to make such a claim. If you strive to follow Jesus will all your heart, might, mind and strength are you not a saint? Whether your a member of the church or not???? As for me I will continue to do the best I can with all that I can and find joy and peace in this life and hope of eternal life in the life to come. Say what you want, but I find no greater way of happiness than in the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day saints.
@stevehardwick1578
@stevehardwick1578 2 года назад
Every born again believer in Christ will be saved, period. He knew them before the foundation of the world. Pray for those who don't yet believe. You can take solace in the knowledge that God is just.
@Jeremiah17910
@Jeremiah17910 2 года назад
@@chrishumphries7489 Friend, you are so deceived with the Mormon church and the diabolical teachings of Joseph Smith and the Devils book the book of Mormons he wrote, that your mind is literally filled with the lies of the Devil, and you are literally blinded spirutally. Satan has filled your mind with lies for so long, even though you know that Mormon church is a cult your roots are so deep in the Satanic teaching of Mormon doctrines you can't break away from it. I have good news for you. Through away the Devils book the book of Mormons, and get a KJV Bible and start reading it and study God's word until the LORD opens your eyes to the truth of His Living Eternal Word and brings you to true salvation in Christ who is the creator of all things, God, who became a man and died for your sins. The uncreated One became a man and loves you and has given His life on the cross for sinners like me and you. Study God's word and find out for yourself what Scripture says who Jesus Christ is. Mormon Jesus is not the Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible. The Mormon Jesus is the Jesus of Joseph Smith whom the Devil has used to start, the latter days saints and deceive millions of of the followers, friend you are one of them. Please, through away that Devils book, the book of Mormons, and study Scripture. KJV, NKJV, NASV, are the best.
@Jeremiah17910
@Jeremiah17910 2 года назад
@@chrishumphries7489 blah, blah blah, no wonder you are deceived and brainwashed with Mormon cultish doctrines. Everything you said is a lie, not found in the true Scriptures. You are blabbering out of the Mormon book written by the servant of the Devil none other then Joseph Smith. Friend, unless you repent and turn to the true Christ od Scripture, and turn your back on Joseph Smith and his teachings, you will surely die in your sins unforgiven, because you are putting your trust in Joseph Smiths Jesus, and not the true Jesus Christ as revealed in Scripture. Please, through away the Devils book the Mormon book, and study God's word only. Get a KJV, NKJV, OR NASV Bible and study study and study some more until the Holy Spirit will shows you the truth of His written word found only in the Holy Bible, not some other book or books that many false teachers and prophets like Joseph Smith have written. The truth of God's word will set you free, nothing else will do. John 8:31-32.
@AJTramberg
@AJTramberg 4 года назад
Calvinism says that Kwakus misrepresentations are part of Gods sovereign will, as is Mormonism. You should not be upset or frustrated by Gods will.
@James-li8cm
@James-li8cm 6 лет назад
I grow weary of this back and forth trashing and idol worship that is called "calvinism"
@nicolaslosito5735
@nicolaslosito5735 6 лет назад
James wow that’s pathetic
@donttreadonme5302
@donttreadonme5302 6 лет назад
Actually it’s called theology
@James-li8cm
@James-li8cm 6 лет назад
my point exactly... what you call calvinism is the ONLY PURE form of doctrine. I don't follow a man named Calvin. I follow Jesus and the teachings of Jesus. Jesus didn't say "follow Calvin"
@donttreadonme5302
@donttreadonme5302 6 лет назад
James Paul said follow me as I follow Christ.
@KISStheSON...
@KISStheSON... 6 лет назад
Don’t Tread On Me Please tell be you are NOT comparing Paul, the chosen vessel to preach the Good News of salvation by Grace THROUGH Faith to ALL Gentile nations who wrote most of the NT inspired by God himself, to "John Calvin Born of flesh and blood: July 10, 1509, from Noyon, France!?!?!?!?"
@paulbortolazzo
@paulbortolazzo 5 лет назад
Calvinism is one of the greatest heresies being sown in the body of Christ by teachers deceptively coming in Christ's name. (Mat. 24:4-5, 2 Pet 2:1) Peter warned the church of teachers teaching heresies denying the Lord that once bought them by His blood (2 Pet 2:1) There are 100's of verses warning believers not to depart from the faith. You just can't dismiss this fact. Unsaved people can't fall away from a faith they never had. During the future great tribulation, the falling away of saints because of the Beast is going to be horrific.
@samuelcastillo425
@samuelcastillo425 5 лет назад
How is calvanism heresy
@michaelcerean1990
@michaelcerean1990 3 года назад
Lucifer either sinned under his own free will or was predestined by God to do so. The iniquity that was found in Lucifer was either of his own free well or was placed there by God.......that would make God the Creator of sin.
@Tim72-m5c
@Tim72-m5c 2 года назад
Thank you so much I love your teaching and need them.
@windyday8598
@windyday8598 2 года назад
this is about mormonism. as for "isms" , they all stray, man's name-Calvin, followed by "ism". doctrines of man. "--ity" vs. "ism." christianity-state of being/behavior.
@bryanpratt5850
@bryanpratt5850 4 года назад
God, Jesus, Salvation, Gospel, all these terms, as well as others, lose their biblical meaning to those who leave off the Bible as their authority, they inevitably redefine terms and invent new ones as part of their ongoing man-made theology. It becomes a flavor of the month church, requiring ongoing feel-good confirmations that they have the truth. I mourn for my LDS friends and family. When they leave their church, most go atheist.
@evanu6579
@evanu6579 4 года назад
Bryan Pratt Unfortunately, Calvinism turns many away from the faith as well. Many can’t stand the idea of God creating man for the purpose of tormenting them.
@emanuelkournianos7412
@emanuelkournianos7412 8 месяцев назад
To consider for discussion and clarification! 1) From nothing, nothing can come! 2) So something has always existed! 3) The universe had a beginning! 4) So something that has always existed created the universe. I believe in a God that has always existed As God and is everywhere present and is pure Spirit and knows everything including everything about us. And Jesus is God who created us! Jesus is the second person of the Holy Trinity! One God in essence in three persons! The Bible says, "From everlasting to everlasting you are God!" Psalm 90:2 The difference is that LDS believe God was once a man and confined to a body of flesh and bones and still progressing! Can you tell me where the first man came from? From nothing? And LDS Jesus did not create us and is one of three gods. As you can see we view God in very different ways and must be aware of this or we end up talking past each other using the same words with different meanings.
@richmond1327
@richmond1327 6 лет назад
3For ye are yet CARNAL: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and DIVISIONS, are ye not CARNAL, and walk as MEN? 4For while one saith, I AM OF PAUL; and another, I AM OF APOLLOS; are ye not CARNAL? 11For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are CONTENTIONS among you. 12Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.13IS CHRIST DIVIDED? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul? YOU: I AM OF CALVIN
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