Could Formula 1 return to the Nürburgring Nordschleife? 

Who's up for a Nordschleife road trip once Rona pisses off?

Hamilton would be complaining about tyres in the formation lap

" We do not need to turn the Nordschleife into Nordscheiße" I lost it there.

To this topic: RIP Sabine Schmitz, Tage queen of the Ring. Never be forgotten!

imagine having a puncture at the beginning of the lap and having to drive 10km back

Bold to make us wait for a 1 second clip of you saying no

If the answer is yes, this would be an attempt to assasinate Mazepin.

That would be the craziest thing since tommo told us about alonso becoming team principal

No It’d basically be a German Monaco Grand Prix

"...meant to house the best drivers in the world if you ignore half of them..." SAVAGE, Josh, SAVAGE

They would have to literally rebuild the entire track for that to happen right?

The thumbnail made me think this was a video about Seb's start at Aston Martin being a Green Hell for him.

R.I.P Sabine schmitz Queen of the Nürburgring.

Literally the only Kiwi F1 youtuber and he releases his video's at 4am NZST... Getting shafted on timezones by even our own! The life of a kiwi F1 fan.

Short answer: No Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

7:29 „we do not need to turn the Nordschleife into the Nordscheiße“ 😂😂

_Could F1 return to Northschleife?..._ Josh not even a minute into the video: *no.*

Simple question: Would you let Tilke redesign the Nordschleife? If the answer is NO, then THUMBS UP

. . . I bet someone's gonna go and try and make it FIA Grade 1 in Asetto Corsa now

As a german i can say you nailed the pronounciation of Scheiße very well. Good job!

I swear, nobody is touching our Nordschleife, it stays how it is.

Short answer: no Long answer: definitely not

I love how this video is about as long as *one* lap around the nordschleife

As far as I'm aware, the move from the Nordschleife to Hockenheim was made long before the accident that nearly killed Niki Lauda. The accident became just another argument for the move to the historic Kurpfalz.

Lap 1: Lewis "bono, my tires are gone"

So about what you said at 3:47, could you maybe specify which half..?

Totally agree that a part of track should be named after Sabine 👍

Absolutely need a Sabine Corner!

For those of you wanting to dip their toes into GT and Endurance racing - can highly recommend the Nürburgring 24! Makes Le Mans (almost) look like child's play in comparison. :D

All that just to give Sabine a shout, good on ya mate, best tribute so far :)

Fuck, man. Goosebumps at the end. RIP Sabine ❤️

Imagine those car driving around Karrussell...

Sabine Carousel has a nice “‘Ring” to it.

Got yourself a thumbs up for the reference to our eternal Queen of the Ring. Rest In Peace Sabine Schmitz.

I've heard this idea and conclusion before, but this is much more thorough explanation for sure, nice video! And I 111% agree, Sabine deserves a corner! RIP Legend.

"Do you REALLY wanna see THIS?" Me, living in the area: "YES"

Name an S section after Sabine. It carries her initials and describes her spirit fast and free flowing

Love the fact that you mentioned Sabine.

great video, i love the suggestion that a corner or even a grand stand be named after the great Sabina R.I.P.

I know this really isn't possible but I still dream about it. If anything it would be cool to see the silver arrows go there with a modified W11 to try and set a lap record like Porsche did with the 919 EVO

Imagine having to pit every 5 laps around this!

Did he really play long ball here with an 8 minute video (colab included) just to emphasize how the Nurburgring must add a Sabine tribute to one of its corners? yes he did, and it made my day

"The longest, hardest, toughest race-track in the world." The Snaefell Mountain course would like a word.

As much as I love the nurburgring and as much as I do like F1, a Grand Prix on the Nordscheliefe would not be even remotely close to a good idea for 3 big reasons: - Overall Work: The amount work to repave or resurface and reprofile the entire track would have issues specific to the topography (An issue not present with today's current circuits). The amount of replaced curbing, widening (Because today's F1 cars are, if we're really honest, barely suitable for ANY track in F1, hence the less then steller racing), gravel traps and added runoff would have significant issues given where the track is. - The Overall Cost: I see some people already saying that they don't care about the cost (Typical fans, they don't care when THEY aren't the ones having to pay for substantial work). Problem is, cost is kinda a big issue for the Nurburgring and their owners. Are we gonna keep forgetting that this track has had multiple issues staying financially afloat (Does "Save the Ring" Not ring a bell to anyone?). I guarantee that the complete revamp that took place to bring F1 back to the Red Bull Ring (Formerly the A1-Ring) was far less expensive then a entire operation would be for Nordscheliefe. There wouldn't be many backers if any, even financially stable ones, that would look at this as a financially viable option so I don't think the owners themselves would be able to make that happen given the trouble the circuit has already had to keep being opened. All the complaining the fans do now about the racing, would all this work and extra money be even worth just to have that x1000? Those tickets better sell out Day 1, otherwise this would be by far the biggest financial disaster just to satisfy that tiny amount of people interested. - The Character: While I tend not to be the biggest fan of nostalgia (Purely because how often an excuse its used by fans and people in general just to have awful ideas, exaggerate how bad things are now while ignoring the past was not that much better and make tacky liveries that ironically aren't even remotely close to the source material they claim to pay homage to), Changing this just for Formula 1 is terrible for the exact same reason the idea of F1 coming back to Watkins Glen or Long Beach: The overall character of the track. For abunch of people that hate Tilke for designing "Soulless" Tracks or Redesigns that Bucher previous ones, there sure are people that are very quick to the idea of doing that very thing to this track. The Nordschleife you know now would have to basically die just to satisfy this fetish of having Modern F1 cars on it (Same goes for the aforementioned Watkins Glen and Long Beach). And then there comes the one very reason this won't even happen: Length. Currently, the longest allowable circuit that is Grade 1 is Spa at only 7.004 kilometers (which is pretty much near or is the maximum allowance). The Nordschliefe on the other hand is a far longer 20.830 kilometers (and it only gets longer if you want to used the combined layout, which extends to 25.378). So basically if the Nordschliefe even is to stand a chance at having F1, it needs to be drastically be reduced. What would even be the point if THAT happened? All in all, its not at all possible financially or by rule for the North Loop to host F1 and frankly, I'd be fine with it staying that way.

"Nordschleife to Nordscheisse". Lovely phrase, Josh!

Nice tribute to the Queen of Nür. ❤️ I've seen your Instagram story too, about the sad news. #RIPSabineSchmitz

With a lot of renovation and Money It might be posible that the FIA it it as a category 1 circuit consider. But the problem is that there would be a very small number of laps, making it boring for fans which visit the circuit.

0:06 I love that "Why is this track still here?" instead of Russia.

C'mon, Josh, this better not be some clickbait troll job. Or is Sir Lancelot's dad going to buy the track?! ;)

0:36 "never ever eveRRRRRR" I cried laughing!

Love the vids homie. keep it up 👍🏾

"We do not need to turn the Nordschleife into the Nordscheiße" My new favourite sentence.

The end of the video was really worth it, even though we all knew the answer before clicking on the video!🙏

0:06 if you look at Russia it says “why is this track still here”

Very very good idea named a corner after the great Sabine Schmitz 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Toto Wolff almost got killed there, he still alive to tell the story thankfully (and lead Mercedes as well)

Fun fact: If there was to be a race there, it'll probably last around 15 laps.

Well put. Thanks mate.

They did it's the first corner on the Nordschleife. RIP Sabine. You where an inspiration to me, I will honor your memory by the way I live my life.

Rip Sabine the queen of the ring!

Reality- You wait half an hour for the video to start but end up missing the premiere because you had to do something ☹️

Josh , I just wanted to tell you that you're my favorite motorsport channel in YT. I've seen all your videos. Thanks for creating interesting(and fun) content for all of us. I EVEN TURN OFF MY ADBLOCK FOR YOU. Cheers bro!

We need to have a Nurburgring extravaganza for F1. The race would be on the GP track but Qualifying would be on the 24 hour endurance layout. Practices would be as fallows. P1 every driver gets 10 flying laps on the nordschleife, P2 would be 10 flying laps on the endurance layout and P3 would be after qualifying on the GP track. Qualifying would have each driver be given a window to go out in each qualifying session with the better times in the last qualifying sessions being at the start of the next session. Qualifying has groups so all 20 or 15 or 10 cars aren’t all out there at the same time which would be very hectic for qualifying.

Nice touch adding a green car to the thumbnail

It could be something “different” just like monaco for example

Pretty much what I expected, great video.

Love that idea at the end

Yes, it could happen. I really hope it doesn't, though, because they'd have to change so much that it wouldn't even be a shadow of its former self.

I didn’t know Sabine Schmitz died.... I loved watching her drive the Nordschleife... and her driving that van around it was just hilarious and legendary...Rest In Peace...

This was perfect. Thank you!

I REALLY appreciate you explaining the technical side of things, came here expecting the usual baseless rant. Great vid mate!

Nobody: Josh Revell: Haha green hell, green car NYOM

Well... no

nice touch with the Sabine bit at the end.

Who rembers when Sabin Smitze did a few laps of the Nurbugring in a Ford transit

im german and i cried laughing when you said nordscheiße

That's a nice tribute to Sabine at the end there. Now can we see a video about why F1 can't race on De La Sarthe?

There used to be Südschleife too. Roughly around the same area as the GP track is today, about 2 miles longer than the GP track. It got demolished. Many people forget the Green Hell used to be much bigger than just the Nordschleife.

1:06 the best description of nordschleife I've ever heard

I wanna see a wtf happened to the magnussens Both anticipated talents, turned out to be sad

Simple answer: NO

You really got me with Nordschseiße hahaha, great job.

5:21 i like the subtle top gear reference, touché

Fun Fact! This video will be exactly 8:11 minutes long. Mark My Words.

1:13 the track so big that they literally made a regular road bridge under it.

How did I not know of Matt before this? Well I just subscribed

Here's an idea: Sprint race. One lap. Survivors get to drive Sunday on the GP track.

Your good. Thanks for the brief entertainment. Subbed.

Not to mention the pure amount of marshals, recovery equipment, electrical signs for the different flags, the additional electrical work needed to accommodate all that and medical stations that are up to F1 grade around the track, it's a nice idea but REALLY impractical.

Cool stuff there with mentioning Sabine!

Great video as usual, Josh. Another issue with the venue is emergency response times. There's simply no way you could staff a track this long with enough paramedic teams and helicopters to meet the driver extraction and fire requirements F1 has these days. Hell, even getting adequate camera coverage of this track is an expensive and difficult feat. That also brings us to what was Old Hockenheim's downfall, security. The old track was torn up primarily because due to various regulations it was impossible to have adequate security at every part of the track leading to potential track invasions, as was proven in the race in 2000. You'd probably also need multiple Safety Cars like they have at Le Mans and would lose at minimum 1/12th of the race every time one came out, 1/6th if it was around for two laps. There's also the fact that to even do demo laps F1 cars needed to be cranked to their maximum possible ride-height and even then they had to drive veeeeery carefully in certain sections to avoid utterly grounding the car. Still, the most important takeaway from this? Rip Sabine. Queen of the Green Hell.

Spot on review

Thanks for the great video.JDS in AZ usa

No way in Green Hell will the Nordschleife section be used again for modern F1. Tires won't last 5 laps. Great video btw and yes name a corner for Sabine Schmitz.

I remember when Michael Schuhmacher did that demo-run in the Mercedes they had the car sit as high as it can and it still got banged up and scratched all over.

Great Video

Awesome video, you make a lot of great points. I think they can make some incremental improvements to increase safety without destroying the spirit of the track, but not to the point to where F1 can race there. It is..what it is:)

Ludicrous...yes. But then again, why not? It would put an entirely different emphasis on tyre management, fuel management, but would put immense pressure on security and safety services. Do I think it's ever going to happen? No. Would I like to see it happen? Hell yes! I would love to see at least one GP there in honour of Sabine Schmitz, the Queen of the Nürburgring.

7:33 - I did not know this yet, and think the way you brought this point was a bit flippent.

Answer is no and Josh is totally right about that. And about naming a corner after Sabine Schmitz. I hope to see that happen when the 24h race is hold there this year. Awesome video 🔥