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@Gary-n6k
@Gary-n6k Год назад
The biggest problem would be the facing kid Goku after losing half their members.
@antviper135
@antviper135 Год назад
Well damn 😂
@Jbbilll
@Jbbilll Год назад
Lmfao
@painvillegaming4119
@painvillegaming4119 Год назад
King piccolo” first time?”
@arvindayer8309
@arvindayer8309 Год назад
Inraged kid Goku
@aliastheabnormal
@aliastheabnormal Год назад
Half of them lived? Roshi killed a Sannin you know.
@enenra6417
@enenra6417 Год назад
They really lost most of their team just to capture the wrong guy
@iisomeoneii2091
@iisomeoneii2091 Год назад
They just lost the useless fodder Obito can just use kamui to capture all tailed beasts in a day
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 Год назад
@@iisomeoneii2091 Oh? than why didn't he?
@robertcobb3634
@robertcobb3634 Год назад
​@@KaiserMattTygore927plot
@saadsami8860
@saadsami8860 Год назад
The worst thing is that they made Goku angry
@Gantaipao
@Gantaipao Год назад
​@@iisomeoneii2091😂😂😂 Stop the cap. Obito ain't heavy hitter.
@NikoxNobu
@NikoxNobu Год назад
Since roshi uses ki, his offence is comparable to his defense, unlike ninjas. Meaning that if roshi gets to them he could snap them with a finger and most attacks would bounce off roshi, so he wouldnt need to dodge most of them. Stamina wouldnt be an issue since he would only need single hit per member, plus he has way better technique and experience so they dont seem to have any chance.
@tchoythao5579
@tchoythao5579 Год назад
even worse, dude can catch point blank machinegun fire. there is nothing in Naruto capable of that speed in repetition besides teleporting, and there's only 2 people capable of instant teleporting, with one being dead and the other no longer able to due to bad eye surgery.
@aliastheabnormal
@aliastheabnormal Год назад
I think that Samehada could absorb ki. Since it's basically the same thing as chakra. (physical and spiritual energy molded into something.) Just like Genki is basically nature energy, and Shinjutsu is god ki.
@samuelhaverghast2442
@samuelhaverghast2442 Год назад
There is one technique, Deidara's C4 I think it's called? Basically he makes a Clay explosive that looks like it was a dud, but what it actually did was make microscopic explosives that you would inhale as you breathed, only lightning nature can negate it, which is something DBZ characters are not privy too
@NorwegianNoLife
@NorwegianNoLife Год назад
​@@samuelhaverghast2442except Roshi is actually one of the few DB characters who are with his "lightning surprise"
@Its_KayBee
@Its_KayBee Год назад
​@aliastheabnormal Ki and Chalra ain't necessarily the same thing, just look it up.
@bananaslamma35
@bananaslamma35 Год назад
You forgot that Kamui explicitly has a weakness in that it's very limited in terms of how long it can be used for, which is why Obito had to rely on Izanagi to survive Konan's attack. And Roshi is a man who's forgotten more about Martial Arts than most people will ever learn. He's seen it all and he's even seen things no one else has seen, with dozens to hundreds of different techniques that we never saw because they simply wouldn't have worked on someone like Goku... but they'd work on the Akatsuki. Also important to note that nothing that works by manipulating Chakra (genjutsu or Kisame's draining abilities) would work on Roshi whatsoever, as he doesn't have any (and no, Chakra isn't Ki, it started off as just Ki by a different name yes, but then they made it explicitly an alien thing). The Akatsuki can only win by going after him all at the same time, and they'd still take heavy losses from doing so for several reasons, not least of which is an inability to work as a cohesive team. If they go two at a time, he'll just dismantle them two at a time. He's far superior in terms of physical stats, the instant disable techniques wouldn't work and they'd need to work on trying to drain his stamina, which wouldn't work very well if they don't go all at once because Roshi is very much an expert and would pace himself and not use more power than he absolutely has to on each pair, and Pain's the only one that would actually make him exert himself. Alternatively... Konan and/or Pain's female body win the fight easily. Just show booba and Roshi will be distracted.
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
"You forgot that Kamui explicitly has a weakness in that it's very limited in terms of how long it can be used for" 5 minutes of continuous use Roshi has no attack's that last 5 minutes straight. "And Roshi is a man who's forgotten more about Martial Arts than most people will ever learn. He's seen it all and he's even seen things no one else has seen, with dozens to hundreds of different techniques" And guess what those techniques didn't help him against people stronger then himself. "Also important to note that nothing that works by manipulating Chakra (genjutsu or Kisame's draining abilities) would work on Roshi whatsoever" Yes most genjutsu wouldn't work however he is facing the 1 exception to that Sharingan Genjutsu which works by injecting the casters own chakra into the target. "He's far superior in terms of physical stats" Not really Roshi in DB has to be slower then Lightning as the Goku who was on par with him in power later goes on to Train by Dodging Lightning, Meaning even HIDAN the slowest attacker of the Akatsuki is faster then Roshi(Roshi probably has a Physical strength advantage however) as Hidan can keep up with Kakashi who split a Lightning Bolt. "which wouldn't work very well if they don't go all at once because Roshi is very much an expert and would pace himself and not use more power than he absolutely has to on each pair" The problem is he is going to have to push himself really really hard against the early matchups.
@johnthomas6073
@johnthomas6073 Год назад
That would make a great parody if they went for Master roshi instead of the Jinchiruki because they heard how they both are well acquainted with son goku
@godoftune
@godoftune Год назад
Roshi is faster, stronger, and has higher battle iq than guy who was able to react to kamui in taijutsu. Roshi is so fast he literally blitzes everyone it’s unfair
@davizi6146
@davizi6146 Год назад
Itachi has lightspeed Jutsus (faster than DB Roshi) and Kamui is passive, it can't be outsped. Plus, if Itachi starts with his Susano'o there is literally nothing Roshi can do to stop him, the Yata Mirror is immune to physical and spiritual attacks and the Totsuka Blade seals anything it pierces. All this on top of the fact Roshi has shown no resistance to Mind Hax or temperatures hotter than the sun and we have a Smurf situation
@anautisticperson5382
@anautisticperson5382 Год назад
@@davizi6146 Dragon balls logic “ if you are stronger than your opponents, nothing will work on you”. So yes the comment is correct, Roshi slams.
@davizi6146
@davizi6146 Год назад
@@anautisticperson5382 Where is this stated Go on show me
@anautisticperson5382
@anautisticperson5382 Год назад
@@davizi6146 The manga and anime. It shows it every single time. Hit and Goku is a perfect example. Look at in the manga, Goku is stronger than Hit, so his time skip doesn’t work on him. The Hakai ball that Frieza used on Goku. Goku is stronger than that Hakai ball. It’s been shown countless times it will take me an entire essay to tell you it. Also, Roshi is faster than all Naruto characters combined, get Itachi above solar system level.
@davizi6146
@davizi6146 Год назад
@@anautisticperson5382 1. Roshi in this video is explicitly OG Dragon Ball Roshi. Either you're deaf or just purposefully refused to watch the video. He is not TOUCHING Solar System level unless you think OG Dragon Ball Roshi is taking Super Perfect Cell. 2. Not once in the Dragon Ball franchise is it ever stated that being stronger than your opponent cancels their haxes. In the DBS Manga Hit says that HIS TIMESKIP is being shortened because Goku is stronger; that means his Timeskip specifically has the weakness that it will not work against stronger opponents. Unless explicitly stated that the characters are able to negate hax abilities in general via strength, then the hax abilities showcased just have a unique weakness that they do not work against stronger opponents. The same goes for Hakai Energy. Hax by nature are abilities that exist outside of strength, speed, and durability, and so Hax being bypassed by those stats mean that the Hax itself is weak, not that the character can resist all Hax. Characters have to showcase or have stated resistance to haxes in order to be resistant to them. And 3. OG DB Roshi is Moon level at max using a technique he can only use once before being completely drained, and Relativistic, which is slower than lightspeed.
@D_To_The_J
@D_To_The_J Год назад
My only gripe is I believe Itachi knows Kisame enough to get out of dodge when he starts going crazy mode. Giant water arena etc. I'm sure they have discussed this technique and have a strategy for using it.
@devilsadvocate243
@devilsadvocate243 Год назад
Criminals within orginizations keep cards close to their chest in case shit gets turned around on them. This would be turned up to 11 for a secret ninja organization of rogue ninjas.
@michaelthomas9891
@michaelthomas9891 Год назад
​@@devilsadvocate243true for most members of the akatski but not for kisame and itachi as well as konan and pein. Kisame is very loyal and he likely would have built strategies around his more destructive attacks.
@aliastheabnormal
@aliastheabnormal Год назад
The problem is thundershock surprise. If it's anything like lightning style. Kisame would fry to death instead.
@D_To_The_J
@D_To_The_J Год назад
@@devilsadvocate243 That would be true for the other members but like mentioned Kisame actually cared about itachi and trusted him his life. They were friends and had loyalty for eachother. Their styles were opposite and they both complimented eachothers weaknesses. Itachi trusted him enough for Kisame to know about his bad health in which Kisame would look out for his wellbeing on a regular basis.
@devilsadvocate243
@devilsadvocate243 Год назад
@@michaelthomas9891 ya word, just saying a simple truth that explains away half the complaints
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 Год назад
I don't think Roshi's stamina is _as_ bad as not being able to fight all the members of the Akatsuki at once. With the Red Ribbon Army, they have a large base that has to be traversed, battle suits and androids that are stronger than their usual footmen, commanders that could keep up at least somewhat with Goku, etc, etc. Plus Goku didn't wipe out the entirety of the army; he only fractured its central leader positions (hence why Dr. Gero survived and the remnants seen in Super Hero still existed). Roshi was pitting himself against the _entire_ RR army, and even then was only "not sure" if he could have done so, instead of knowing if he couldn't 100%. Against the Akatsuki, he is one shotting pretty much over half of the team, leaving him with Kisame, Itachi, the Pains, and Obito as his main opponents. Against around half a dozen opponents assumedly in a more open area, his stamina should hold up a lot better than it would fighting an entire army within their own base.
@professorchaos5058
@professorchaos5058 Год назад
Ya, like 90% of the footmen fleed the base once Goku got there, only a handful stayed to fight Goku
@prototipolq-84i46
@prototipolq-84i46 Год назад
Roshi ToP: GG easy
@derekfurst6233
@derekfurst6233 Год назад
Roshi also consistently understates his own ability publicly. The people he was speaking to don't know he was Jackie Chun. They don't know how strong he was
@scrambledflan5851
@scrambledflan5851 Год назад
I agree pretty much with Lonk. And that just has to do when major power creep kicks in. I mean yes kid goku does get vastly stronger from when he started, but it's not even close to what he is compared to start of DBZ or even during the saiyan saga. Meanwhile Naruto suffers from huge power creep starting from the chunnin exams, just compare how strong zabuza is compareed to akutsuki later and they should technically at this point be roughly the same strength from a lore point of view. Even kakashi at that time is vastly weaker then he is later. Honestly speaking prior to watching the video I expected DB roshi to get giga stomped especially with all the hacks that the naruto universe has and that Roshi never grew in strength in DB. While power creep affected everyone else in both the DB and naruto universe.
@benrockefeller6334
@benrockefeller6334 Год назад
​@@prototipolq-84i46Roshi in ToP briefly resisted Jiren, a beyond-God of Destruction level character, so yeah, it would be hugely unfair to put him against the Akatsuki.
@72SinSae
@72SinSae Год назад
Roshi could destroy a moon in max power mode, which is different from Full power mode, Im exited to see how this comes out. Roshi has thunder suprise attack, and sleep thingy as well. EDIT: sorry for the debate thingy
@leaflock7462
@leaflock7462 Год назад
And the evil containment wave!
@victorukah2049
@victorukah2049 Год назад
​@@leaflock7462yeah but he'll die after using it
@72SinSae
@72SinSae Год назад
@@victorukah2049 no, its physical strength and nothing else, and they are not strong enough to kill him with that
@georgeDeming
@georgeDeming Год назад
the guy lowballs roshi so damn hard in this and admits he is going to lowball roshi before he even gets started talking about the feats
@devilsadvocate243
@devilsadvocate243 Год назад
DBZ moon verified to be MUCH smaller than our own
@pinecactus9672
@pinecactus9672 Год назад
Roshi solo's akatsuki easily. One thing thay we often forget in these comparisons is that all these ninjas can easily killed by a knife to the chest. Try knifing Roshi and the knife won't even leave a scratch.
@owenwang6528
@owenwang6528 Год назад
to be fair knives in anime work differently. we see mountain level and above level characters die to knifes all the time.
@valentinchappa6702
@valentinchappa6702 Год назад
​@@owenwang6528they may have mountain level attack potency, not durability if they die to a knife. Dragon ball characters, when not caught unawares, have their attack potency and durability scale relative to each other. A planet destroyer will be able to survive an attack with that level of power, provided they aren't exhausted/fatigued.
@pinecactus9672
@pinecactus9672 Год назад
@@valentinchappa6702 roshi casually caught bullets in DB. A kunai hit by the strongest ninja won't even scrach him.
@owenwang6528
@owenwang6528 Год назад
@@valentinchappa6702 my point exactly its honestly just watever the story want thier durablity to be. we see this in one piece dragon ball and naruto all the time
@D__634
@D__634 5 месяцев назад
​@@owenwang6528no Z fighters died with a knife, not even bullets.
@ha4e52
@ha4e52 Год назад
Konan walks in and Roshi immediately gets distracted by her, then all of the Akatsuki unloads everything at him.
@bensylver5113
@bensylver5113 Год назад
knowing roshi he would doged everything while looking at konan and trying look under her shirt .
@BrandonScott-mi5pz
@BrandonScott-mi5pz 3 месяца назад
AWESOME!
@Lol-dw5xb
@Lol-dw5xb 6 дней назад
Nah... master Roshi in DBS has already overcome his weakness about women...
@Dr.Zoidberg_2914
@Dr.Zoidberg_2914 Год назад
You missed that in dragonball if you are stronger than the other person then hax usually don’t work or are nerfed. Roshi is on a completely different level of power than any of them
@Darbzila
@Darbzila Год назад
100% Vegito was turned into a literal peice of candy and still beat up Buuhan
@pinecactus9672
@pinecactus9672 Год назад
@@Darbzila yup. His form was changed but he still had the same ki output. Strongest candy in the universe.
@coin4898
@coin4898 Год назад
that only applies to ki hax in dbs, in any verse where they have hax that arent fodder (like amrvel or dc) even a planet tier reality warper would casually solo the verse
@Dr.Zoidberg_2914
@Dr.Zoidberg_2914 Год назад
@@coin4898 So you are saying F dbz canon for other continuity?
@Dr.Zoidberg_2914
@Dr.Zoidberg_2914 Год назад
@@coin4898 don’t try me I’ll fold you
@benoyanwar5854
@benoyanwar5854 Год назад
Master Roshi should have a similar attack potency like Naruto as they're both Moon busters. I would say whatever Naruto is able to do Master Roshi could do the same maybe even slightly better.
@fireemblemaddict128
@fireemblemaddict128 Год назад
He mentions it in the video. His moonbusting ability spends his entire ki/chakra reserve. He's an old man and it shows there.
@LordJesusDiedforUs
@LordJesusDiedforUs Год назад
Naruto is NOT a moon buster he split a hollow moon, a piccolo slightly stronger than db roshi and far weaker than dbs roshi eviscerated the ENTIRE moon with an unnamed hand blast
@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang
Yeah, Naruto, Hashirama and Madara solo the Akatsuki, so Roshi could do the same
@Xtragams
@Xtragams Год назад
Naruto is much more higher than moon lvl. With a simple rasengan, naruto destroyed Tenseigan Golden Sphere Barrier chakra in the moon. With toneri mention that this attack tank the collision of the earth with the moon. Simple rasengan = small planett lvl
@zenaxia8063
@zenaxia8063 Год назад
I feel like roshis battle experience would help him take out kamui, in the case of itachi i think roshi can handle genjutsu because he has been through similar training to goku, and goku overcame genjutsu when going after the ultra divine water, tsukuyomi also wouldnt be too bad since he could brute force it and amatarasu is kinda unpredictable, he could lose to it or take him out before he can use it, pretty OP. Id like another video on just pain though and all their abilities, seems like hed have a tough time taking them out to me. Edit: someone in the comments pointed out that genjutsu only works on people who have chakra which is true.
@limbo9993
@limbo9993 Год назад
I don't think he could break Tsukuyomi tbh, it's potencey is layered as Tsukuyomi > Ms Genjutsu > Sharingan Genjutsu > Genjutsu that negged like 600 People. That along with Tsukuyomi being a literal mental universe where Itachi controls all things makes me think it's a bit out of Roshi's paygrade.
@Mr_Lucas
@Mr_Lucas Год назад
@@limbo9993in dragon ball characters show if you have more raw power than your opponent their hax are pretty obsolete and even if they weren’t what would itachi actually be able to torcher roshi with as roshis mind is something itachi definitely wouldn’t be able to break with decades of understanding of martial arts and meditating
@jaspergg4561
@jaspergg4561 Год назад
Actually genjutsu only works with People that have chakra, Roshi doesn't have It, so It wouldn't work any Kind lf Genjutsu
@Fun4luve
@Fun4luve Год назад
@@jaspergg4561 yeah but that's boring for debate so lets pretend it can for a little bit. XD
@Youhavesmoke
@Youhavesmoke Год назад
Bruh you forgot ki barrier
@pikastudios2850
@pikastudios2850 Год назад
Master roshi could probably wipe all them out in a single attack due to a data book confirming he has the power to power a large star, however we don’t know what he would do against Genjutsu and Tobi’s invincibility. They could keep up with Roshi’s speed and Roshi isn’t particularly agile so they could likely take care of him before he reaches max power, which he would most likely go for due to the ridiculous power increase and how outnumbered he is.
@GoldRichness
@GoldRichness Год назад
Genjutsu is only known to affect people with Chakra and since Roshi doesn’t have any, it won’t even scratch him. A few of the akatsuki COULD give him a challenge, but Kisame would be powerless since he can’t absorb Ki the same way he does Chakra. Itachi wouldn’t do much to him at all either. Sure Roshi isn’t necessarily strong against Aerial attacks and he’s not the fastest but I doubt that would do too much to him. The only way he could lose in this context is his perversion, so ideally Konan or Pain’s female form could take him down.
@devwraith836
@devwraith836 Год назад
If it was Dragon ball Super Roshi, this wouldn't even be a discussion.
@OmarPhilipReusora-qg4xn
@OmarPhilipReusora-qg4xn Год назад
Omg the matchups are getting more bizzare ...i like it hahahahahah
@ruddraturi4360
@ruddraturi4360 Год назад
Dbs roshi was handling hundreds of frieza force members and didn't struggle that much and TOP roshi is on another level
@BrianVaughnVA
@BrianVaughnVA Год назад
So instead of going with the ultimate blitz that is "Super Roshi" - we're going with the DB Roshi that has been seen breaking moons and rarely fighting at full power. The best example of full power DB Roshi is actually his fight in the DBZ Movie: Worlds Strongest, when he takes on multiple threats at once and is able to rather easily defeat everything - with the exception of the weird abilities they had and the fact they "out powered him". Roshi should be able to solo the entire Naruto universe at his full power from DB / DBZ and Super.
@mikeval1525
@mikeval1525 Год назад
super is too obvious thats why we stick with db and z.
@caden6389
@caden6389 Год назад
nah that last statement is false, Naruto and Sasuke were confirmed to be Raditz-level. Roshi isn't beating those two at least
@theinktician
@theinktician Год назад
@@caden6389 yeah, and the bs character that is Jigen wouldn't be able to get physically touched by him, as stupid as it is.
@GeorgeTooCur1ous
@GeorgeTooCur1ous Год назад
@caden6389 when was this confirmed, roshi had a power level of like 80 and destroyed the moon, raditz had more than 10× that power, raditz is multi planetary bro, naruto and sasuke do not compare
@ItsMeStrider
@ItsMeStrider Год назад
@@caden6389 Roshi on super is ridiculously stronger than raditz. In fact, every single fighter in the entire series might just shit on him on accident.
@woag4974
@woag4974 Год назад
subbing because you always choose the best dokkan osts in the background
@xenobreak03
@xenobreak03 Год назад
This mf using int ssj4 full powers theme that shit slaps bro
@limbo9993
@limbo9993 Год назад
This seems pretty accurate, Roshi is really strong but he doesn't have the stamina or hax to deal with the Akatsuki. Honestly, Itachi, Obito, and Pain could maybe even just beat him 1v1 if they instant-hax him to death. And they can be scaled even higher than this, as some calcs but Pain's Chibaku Tensei at Continent Level and there are multiple statements for 1/2 Kurama being Planet Level, which you can argue would upscale Obito and maybe Itachi and Pain (those two are a bit more questionable). They could also have a speed edge depending on how you calc certain stuff. All of that along with the massive numbers advantage they have and all the tricks up their sleeve makes me think they would beat him in most scenarios. Great video, I'm really digging these DBZ and Naruto battles. As a fan of both series, keep up the great work!
@r.a.s6410
@r.a.s6410 Год назад
Kurama is not planet level. The stament your reffering mean society and not the planet.
@r.a.s6410
@r.a.s6410 Год назад
Planetary devastation is small country level.
@r.a.s6410
@r.a.s6410 Год назад
Speed wise. Roshi is FTL so there is no contest
@hihi-nm3uy
@hihi-nm3uy Год назад
It’s very unlikely for Pain, Obito or Itachi to land those win conditions, either way. The speed and power difference is so big that they’d just get crushed, like how V2 Naruto utterly manhandled Pain.
@limbo9993
@limbo9993 Год назад
@@r.a.s6410 There are multiple Planetary statements for Kurama, and seeing as the mention the world and earth it would be up to you to prove that they are meaning society. Kurama and Bee also have a Multi-Continental feat so it isn’t inconsistent for them to be that strong. Obito also made the Kamui dimension (databook says he made it) which is most likely a planet considering he uses it to teleport around the earth. Chibaku Tensei can be at Continental which is consistent with the Bijuu’s power. Itachi, Pain, and Obito are all significantly above FTL as well so Roshi’s speed isn’t enough.
@MegaDrain
@MegaDrain 3 месяца назад
The best part about this entire match up is realizing we're intentionally using the weakest form of Roshi and not his more powerful versions in Super. Not even talking about Tournament of Power, Ressurection F Roshi was surprisingly really strong considering how strong the average Frieza soldier is and took on 170 mostly by himself and one shot most of em.
@zombathinlostleghackercat5233
3:17 Dude, this is my first time here.
@Foggy18
@Foggy18 Год назад
What about evil containment wave since it would work with on intangible things and it’s pretty op since it would have work on god tier characters, like zamasu and it would work on obito I think
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
"since it would work with on intangible things" Obito isn't really intangible he is in a different dimension which creates a effect like being intangible he isn't phasing through a attack he just isn't there to be hit by the attack.
@oliverknowles2501
@oliverknowles2501 Год назад
The fact that roshi was strong enough to be in the tournament of power fighting against people who could destroy galaxies with ease just shows that roshi could wipe the floor with entire Naruto verse. Should’ve watched the full video sry.
@mystik8177
@mystik8177 Год назад
yeah but he was talking about classic roshi, top roshi trained in the past
@willclark4449
@willclark4449 Год назад
Roshi wasn't sent because of his power. He was sent because of his Tournament, and martial arts knowledge. being a the man who has probably won more Tournament setting battles than anyone. He has some great feats of strength for sure. but he was calling shots more than anything. this is also why I dont think the Akatsuki could beat him. His strength, martial skill, and ability to understand and figure out his enemies abilities very quicky make him unbeatable by anyone in naruto. The ONLY thing that could kill him would be a soul manipulation jutsu. BUT DBZ characters are able to surround themselves with their ki making a second layer of skin almost. you have to have more output than the barrier to damage the person. So those would be void as well as not even a tailed beat bomb could overpower a DBZ character ki barrier.
@oliverknowles2501
@oliverknowles2501 Год назад
Ik but he was still going toe to toe with people who are at least broly dbz level
@FellowKrime
@FellowKrime Год назад
@@oliverknowles2501Like who? all the people he fought have no feats or displays of power to back that up. Don’t low ball dbz broly like that either could he would decimate everyone in that tourney who is below piccolo’s level
@Amardarial
@Amardarial Год назад
Holy fuck, again people need to learn what Galaxy Buster means, people in TOP werent, most were barely Planetary
@buddylee5712
@buddylee5712 Год назад
Master Roshi is clapping all of the Akatsuki
@Ctgfsuper
@Ctgfsuper 3 месяца назад
Best crossverse RU-vidr on the platform
@Buzterer
@Buzterer Год назад
We caant really ignore that roshi is over 300 years old. With that kind of experience, pretty much the only one who would survive are obito and pain
@UbermanPrime
@UbermanPrime Год назад
Krillin was 12 years old and was holding his own after 6 months of training, experience isn't worth that much
@Distrust2
@Distrust2 Год назад
​@@UbermanPrime☠️
@ericstaples7220
@ericstaples7220 Год назад
Roshi mafuba's the entire entire Naruto universe.
@UbermanPrime
@UbermanPrime Год назад
He can use it once before dying.
@ericstaples7220
@ericstaples7220 Год назад
@@UbermanPrime Did you watch Dragon Ball Super?
@UbermanPrime
@UbermanPrime Год назад
@@ericstaples7220 did YOU watch the video? He clearly says we're using DB Roshi, get your facts straight.
@hokutomaster89
@hokutomaster89 Год назад
Nice video! I enjoy telling my friend who is a naruto fan that krillin solos the entire naruto verse, be fun to see a vid on it lol
@SlugSage
@SlugSage Год назад
Only because DB power scaling is stupid.
@CJ-qv4sd
@CJ-qv4sd Год назад
The only Akatsuki member I see standing a chance is Obito because he’s intangible and could probably suck roshi into the kamui dimension if he catches him off guard when he’s fighting the rest of the Akatsuki.
@kamarijones7522
@kamarijones7522 Год назад
I would say the mafuba might work but that only works on evil people the akatsuki aren't really evil tbh. Only maybe Hidan, Kakazu, ans Sasori.
@CJ-qv4sd
@CJ-qv4sd Год назад
@@kamarijones7522 it doesn’t actually work on evil people because we saw Vegeta get sealed in the tournament of power.
@AlphaAbyss_
@AlphaAbyss_ Год назад
​@@CJ-qv4sdit works on evil people to like we saw with zamasu
@patrickorisakwe56
@patrickorisakwe56 Год назад
Kami was also sealed by Piccolo and he wasn't even evil
@christiancinnabars1402
@christiancinnabars1402 Год назад
@kamarijones7522 The Mafuba literally worked on God.
@BrianAwesome
@BrianAwesome Год назад
@Lonk's Takes, What if The Frieza Force (Pre-Saiyan Saga) crossed dimensions and invaded Earth, during the end TimeSkip of Digimon Season 2 ? What if the Frieza Saga invaded Avatar, shortly before Sozin's Comet ?
@Bilther_ash
@Bilther_ash Год назад
Roshi is a smart fighter. that's why he was recruited for the ToP. I believe roshi can beat obito by figuring out how his kamui works. He also imo can stand a chance against itachi because he most likely can figure out if he is under genjutsu because in the ToP he fought the talisman fighter from universe 4 and realised she was using Illusions.
@caden6389
@caden6389 Год назад
How would Roshi break the genjutsu though? He can't be placed under genjutsu because he doesn't have chakra, but if he could, would he figure out how to break a genjutsu?
@BESTMOAD
@BESTMOAD Год назад
​@@caden6389he literally beat a fighter using illusions also he has an attack using some form of hip notation he definitely could break gengutsu
@Bilther_ash
@Bilther_ash Год назад
@caden6389 I know roshi doesn't have chakra that's why I say if
@HOLDENPOPE
@HOLDENPOPE 4 месяца назад
@@caden6389 what about a Genjutsu where he's tied to a cross and repeatedly stabbed? Tsukuyomi *can* be used for basic tricks, but it also seems to be used for torture.
@KoriSora-db8ez
@KoriSora-db8ez 11 месяцев назад
*Meanwhile in the leaf village* Jiraiya:Tsunade? Tsunade:What is it? Jiraiya:I have news that an old man named roshi fought the akatsukis mistaken him as a jinjuriki Tsunade:What happened!? Did he get captured!? Jiraiya:Yeh but unfortunately for them they lost almost all of their members just to capture the wrong guy Tsunade:Well that's embarrassing they lost most of their members and captured the wrong guy *Akatsuki hideout* Pain:Well thats just great the info we got was nothing but a mere miscalculation Kisame:I didn't think there were two roshis! Konan:It won't be good with most of our members dead its gonna be a lot harder to capture the eight tails let alone the nine tails Itachi:(Honestly I didn't think the old man would be so strong he would've killed me if I'm not careful also my illness is getting worse it might kill me before sasuke would) Pain:Well as long we're still here we will capture all the tailed beast *Tobi meanwhile* Tobi:Im surprised you managed to kill most of our members how is it possible that you not even a jinjuriki have this much power (And what kind of power you possess? From what i know its not chakra but something similar)
@ItsMeStrider
@ItsMeStrider Год назад
Not a single akatsuki member scales to relativistic speeds. The two fastest ones are pain and itachi which are both sub relativistic, even if you low ball roshi as much as possible he still completely blitzes every single one of them. The only way you'd beat him is by obito kamui (even minato who's slower than roshi dodged it in time) or itachi amaterasu hitting (which we know sub relativistic speeds characters can dodge, ie. A the 4th raikage) but I don't think even if it did, it matters considering how ki works in DB. Konan, hidan, kakuzu, deidara and kakuzu would be 1 shot, it's not even close. Every "hax" in DB can be negged by having stronger ki than your opponent (or at least, the attack in question). Vegeta negged babidi's mind control, Freeza negged hakai energy, it's no stretch saying roshi who's a LOT stronger than itachi or pain could neg the amaterasu, tsukiyomi or pain's soul stealing. He could trick most (if not all, but let's be charitable towards dojutsu users) of the akatsuki simply using zanzoken. If kisame tries to drown him (which would be a great idea) he gets hit with thundershock surprise and fried. Dragon ball characters in general should just not be compared to naruto ones, it's just not fair imo.
@Cha-Khia
@Cha-Khia Год назад
Especially when you consider that if your Ki power is greater than your opponent (Ki, magic, or whatever. IN UNIVERSE) Ki counters most hacks.
@ItsMeStrider
@ItsMeStrider Год назад
@@Cha-Khia I mentioned this
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
The 4th Raikage is outright Stated to be light speed and Pain Obito & Itachi scale above him.
@ItsMeStrider
@ItsMeStrider Год назад
@@SRVaris Stated by who?
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
@@ItsMeStrider The Databook written by Kishimoto.
@troglodytezero1697
@troglodytezero1697 Год назад
DB/DBZ has a crazy Power scale however Naruto has crazy hacks, so if the hacks work they can beat crazy powerful characters. Any of us could write a story where a Naruto character beats a DBZ character it just needs set-up.
@georgeDeming
@georgeDeming Год назад
why nerf roshi and not go with his best feats, but i bet your going to give those from naruto theyr best feats.
@jiminlong7096
@jiminlong7096 Год назад
Roshi 1 shots the team. Especially if it were individually. Wtf is this😂
@fkeyae4217
@fkeyae4217 Год назад
You should do Viltrumites vs Saiyan saga Saiyans
@anthony_universe2920
@anthony_universe2920 Год назад
So Master roshi can win but the only way for the Akatsuki to beat Master roshi they have to only face the Dragon Ball version and not the Super version showing that they can't even beat him even if the crew went full power on him
@Amardarial
@Amardarial Год назад
Which is also wrong, even Super version loses.
@davidholloman7440
@davidholloman7440 Год назад
No super would not
@wariduu
@wariduu Год назад
@@Amardarialnigga are you crazy? a ki blast from roshi could destroy planets, king vegeta at a power level of 8000 could destroy planets by waving his hand, at the tof master roshi is at least at a powerlevel of 250k, making it impossible to akatsuki to beat him, keep in mind kishimoto said madara is at nappa level, and nappa was only strong in beggining of z when mfs had power level behind the millions
@UbermanPrime
@UbermanPrime Год назад
@@wariduu King Vegeta busting planets isn't canon, it was filler
@nationsbot
@nationsbot Год назад
@@UbermanPrime roshi destroying the moon in original db is tho, super roshi is hundreds of thousands stronger than that, even base goku states roshis punches are making his hands tingle.
@ThunderGodTG
@ThunderGodTG Год назад
Great Video here!
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes Год назад
Thanks!
@derekfurst6233
@derekfurst6233 Год назад
Tobi has been stated to be vulnerable to exactly one thing" speed blitz. Minato beat him because he managed to land a blow immediately after Tobi solidified in order to grab him. Roshi is massively faster than Minato and has infinitely better reaction time
@UbermanPrime
@UbermanPrime Год назад
Even if that was true, it doesn't matter if he doesn't know about Kamui. And DB Roshi isn't faster than teleportation.
@derekfurst6233
@derekfurst6233 Год назад
@@UbermanPrime did Minato know about kamui? Kakashi was the first one to figure out how it worked (that he's teleporting part of himself to another dimension). That isn't a requirement to beat him as evidence by Minato. And roshi has been demonstrated to be a fighting genius
@aisaback6221
@aisaback6221 Год назад
​@@UbermanPrimeObviously db roshi is slower than teleportation, but you wanna know something, roshi is faster than the kunai that needs to be thrown to teleport.
@UbermanPrime
@UbermanPrime Год назад
@@derekfurst6233 Minato knew he was using a spacetime ninjutsu and that he couldn't afford to get touched by him, Kakashi knew because Obito's Kamui worked the same way. Roshi has no advantage since the first time he saw someone teleport was Goku
@UbermanPrime
@UbermanPrime Год назад
@@aisaback6221 Doesn't need to be a kunai, just something that has the seal. And KCM1 Naruto was directly compared to Minato's teleportation, meaning so does Itachi and Nagato since they scaled to KCM1 Naruto's speed during their fight.
@drowning.macaco
@drowning.macaco Год назад
would be really funny if they fought him beacouse they thought he was the 4 tails jinchiriki
@omnipotent9241
@omnipotent9241 Год назад
Roshi pulls up to the naruto vers* Roshi: alright witch one can blow up the moon
@HOLDENPOPE
@HOLDENPOPE 4 месяца назад
Toneri:
@omnipotent9241
@omnipotent9241 4 месяца назад
@@HOLDENPOPE nah toneri can move the moon roshi could literally turn in into nothing
@josephilipesmaquilan961
@josephilipesmaquilan961 9 месяцев назад
Lonks I hope you'll notice this comment, but if you didn't do it yet maybe you could try Kid Goku vs Naruto and Sasuke (Sasuke Retrieval Arc)
@edenromanov
@edenromanov Год назад
Akatsuki could definitely take down Roshi but not without losing half their numbers.
@yohanab21
@yohanab21 Год назад
Even og DB roshi was a moon buster. They aren’t doing shit to him 💀
@_B4nk
@_B4nk Год назад
​@@yohanab21that was his max power mode also the akatsuki have things such as soul ripping amaterasu tsukuyomi and totsuka blade which are all durability negations
@yohanab21
@yohanab21 Год назад
@@_B4nk the z fighters have shown resistance against those type of attacks with mental training. I’m aware that was max power roshi but even downscaling from that moon busting feat, that would place his base power from country-continental unless that form plus kamehameha are more than a 1000x multiplier
@yohanab21
@yohanab21 Год назад
@@_B4nk only one who might take him out is obito with kamui.
@julio7580
@julio7580 Год назад
​@yohanab21 and from what we've seen in early dragon ball, it doesn't even triple your power level. Goku went from 6-1200 using kamehameha
@nickcampbell3812
@nickcampbell3812 Год назад
Haven't watched the vid yet as I want to think about the premise myself first. Sometimes I forget how wacky it is to compare characters from different contexts. For one, we always have to make assumptions at there is no proof about how different power systems interact (Can someone that can drain chakra drain ki, does genius work on people from outside of natuto?). Second is context. My first thought was one that was correct but not applicable to this situation. It was that despite both groups being top tier humans in their own verse, Roshi is on the lower end of power in his verse while the Atksuki are on the upper end. Then I remembered that that isn't how this works. Master Roshi is one of the characters who blew up the Moon with one attack. Back in Dragon Ball. There are very few people in Naruto who could replicate that feat, especially if you only look at those originally from earth, which excludes the Otsusuki and the 10 tails. Outside of those exclusions, I'm not sure if anyone in the verse has the kind of striking power to destroy a moon. I know there are other things to consider, like speed is always really important, but I don't really know enough about how different verses handle speed or anything else to start something like that.
@nixodian108
@nixodian108 Год назад
Now what if we talked about DBS Roshi (anime)?
@SkyRider4815
@SkyRider4815 4 месяца назад
Manga version is stronger cause of his false ui
@jocoolshow
@jocoolshow Год назад
The man that can blow up the moon vs a group of terrorists that are Biju level at best but have nice hax Roshi probably out stats them badly to the point where the hax is irrelevant
@Kyzoren
@Kyzoren Год назад
Konan in a swimsuit would solo Roshi! 😂
@jamescolar504
@jamescolar504 Год назад
Maybe not solo, but that would definitely be a great distraction for him. Since It's definitely one of his biggest weaknesses. But they will have to know about that in order to carry it out and also Konan will have to agree to it as well.
@dashmyton8435
@dashmyton8435 19 дней назад
Roshi takes his hands from behind his back and the verse instantly implodes
@wrestlingwombat3821
@wrestlingwombat3821 Год назад
One thing roshi has that could help against Obito would be his hypnosis. That would help as it’s not physical, unless obito has a defense against that, that I’m not aware of or remember lol
@MaskedFanatic
@MaskedFanatic 7 месяцев назад
You showed Deidara on the screen but forgot to mention him in the breakdown.
@Archonus
@Archonus Год назад
Roshi would probably be against it, but they should just wish for him to be in his peak physical condition. He's already immortal, might as well make sure you're at your best version to protect the earth.
@BEPPEJHA
@BEPPEJHA Год назад
In the naruto universe intel is an asset; the akatsuki after exstensive research would discover that they would need just konan in bikini to capture roshi
@Cut_in_Half
@Cut_in_Half Год назад
Manga Roshi Vs each of the Jinchurikis, I wanna see how far the old man can really go
@vivithegoblindruid
@vivithegoblindruid 3 месяца назад
hmmm--- I think you are underestimating Roshi, even at this level, yes Roshi said and admitted he lacked the Stamina, but even after he had spent all his Ki, he still managed to fight against Kid Goku for a prolonged period of time.The commentator did comment at least in the anime (can't remember if he said that in the manga) that they had been fighting for 4 hours, most fights in Naruto are much shorter than this, don't forget that despite lasting 93 chapters the whole Shinobi War arc was technically just 2 days in universe, and if we take the fights as in real time than, as far as I can tell, Sasori vs Sakura and the old gal, was the longest spanning around 3 on screen hours.
@Auron1Roxas2
@Auron1Roxas2 4 месяца назад
They'd capture roshi in super as well, people vastly overestimate his abilities there.
@redeyber
@redeyber Год назад
Son goku is how they say son wukong in japan Thats why the giant monkey is named son goku, its still a fun reference
@gabrielking1247
@gabrielking1247 Год назад
I don’t understand you suggest he either does 1 moon level attack or is base mountian level… those are exponentially apart and it follows he could sustain large island/multi mountian level for a whole fight and thus be able to one shot each akatsuku? Obviously that’s hacks aside but I don’t like the power scaling here
@ortanicallity
@ortanicallity 11 месяцев назад
Super roshi? Hell freaking no. OG db roshi you could make an argument for, but even then I'm not that hopeful about it
@matthiasrauert8397
@matthiasrauert8397 Год назад
The point about the max power kamehameha in the tournament is rly interessting. Never thought about it that way.
@the0therch0ice
@the0therch0ice Год назад
is it me or are the tournament numbers off because trunk won the junior section in the 25th tournament but goku was a kid in the 22nd
@sanyogitanegi3881
@sanyogitanegi3881 Год назад
Roshi wipes the Naruto verse
@weirdemails
@weirdemails Год назад
Krillin can defeat the entire Naruto universe at his base level aka start of the Saiyan saga.
@_B4nk
@_B4nk Год назад
He just doesnt
@limbo9993
@limbo9993 Год назад
He gets negged so hard.
@Amardarial
@Amardarial Год назад
No, Dragon Ball doesnt solo Naruto verse like people think.
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
Krillin probably could but not in the Saiyan Saga(some Naruto characters have some Solar System level feats)
@MikeMarrah
@MikeMarrah Год назад
I need a Dragon Ball (not super, but maybe Z) comparison of Krillin & piccolo vs Naruto & Sasuke (Shippuden)
@kiros3190
@kiros3190 Год назад
Krillin alone solo the Naruto verse if it is z or super
@MikeMarrah
@MikeMarrah Год назад
@@kiros3190 let's go original dragon ball then. Don't include Z
@SoLazy100
@SoLazy100 Год назад
It's comical that you considered Z first with Piccolo 😅
@MikeMarrah
@MikeMarrah Год назад
@@SoLazy100 I mean, I haven't actually watched Z in like 10 years. So I kinda forget where he was at then.
@reallyhimongod
@reallyhimongod Год назад
Idk.. if this is the Roshi that almost activated UI against Jiren he just might mop them all up lmaoo
@TheCarloalberto95
@TheCarloalberto95 Год назад
Wonder if Roshi could, in extremis, use a full power kamehameha in the ground while fighting all of them and blow up the continent and sacrifice himself
@ok-bm5hy
@ok-bm5hy Год назад
Something is bothering me you keep saying roshi can't defend himself without ki.... He is a master martial artist after all
@lukepeltzer3160
@lukepeltzer3160 Год назад
Bro I love your channel
@SolusDrakos
@SolusDrakos Год назад
i like how he is using the weakest possible roshi, not saiyan saga or cell saga or super saga but like day one roshi.
@oswinbasurto7508
@oswinbasurto7508 Год назад
Literally had to limit roshi to make it a fair fight💀
@dorkyfever
@dorkyfever Год назад
before even watching this. Well Master Roshi blew up a moon way back in Dragonball the first tournament we see in the show. The power scaling in Dragonball is just TOO different. Hell Yamcha could probably beat most if not all of the Akatsuki.
@SRVaris
@SRVaris Год назад
Half the Nine Tails can turn a planet to ash and people like Pain & Obito scale either relative to Half the Nine Tails or above so being moon level just isn't enough to beat the Akatsuki.
@himmelssturmer9552
@himmelssturmer9552 Год назад
Wait which version of roshi are we talking about? Dbz Dragonball classic?
@Rukiasriot1
@Rukiasriot1 Год назад
Debate swagkage on this video which was very good
@snspect
@snspect Год назад
New subscriber here! Is there a list that has all the FTL and island/city/mountain destroying power levels? Would very much like to know all the different types!
@kasasuipokemonmaster9976
@kasasuipokemonmaster9976 Год назад
That be an amazing fight but sadly roshi loses. At that point no one has the e xperiense of gravity fight
@SS2LP
@SS2LP Год назад
I think it’s funny people think people from naruto could take on dragon ball characters from later in the timeline. Like genuinely I’ve seen people claim about like Madara could fight Goku or Vegeta. Like Dragon ball reached the peak of what Naruto got to before Goku stopped looking like a 5 year old lol by the time Vegeta shows up they’re casually blowing up plants with little to know effort while Madara taking off the top of some mountains is considered some impossible to compete against feat. I like both series but some fans really just don’t really keep in mind how absurd the characters in dragon ball actually are.
@ianmckee4726
@ianmckee4726 Год назад
Poor Konan, had to deal with the pervy sage as a child, now shes getting groped and leered at by.....a pervy hermit sage?
@Skips10
@Skips10 3 месяца назад
Imagine if Roshi had a 1v9 against the tailed beasts
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 Год назад
So an Akatsuki pyyrhic victory that results in them realizing "wait... almost everybody died for nothing... fuck."
@mastatheif9909
@mastatheif9909 Год назад
It's not a DBZ reference, it's a Journey to the West reference 💅🏿
@Ghost-jq4ey
@Ghost-jq4ey Год назад
this is some really crazy coping, kirin is not even mountain level, itachi is not island level, none of this character can do shit to roshi
@GoldenQ9
@GoldenQ9 Год назад
Roshi would whoop they ass lmao and i never though about the fact that roshi should be able to tame the tail beasts
@isjor5
@isjor5 Год назад
Roshi getting distracted by konan
@TGx92
@TGx92 Год назад
Are we talking if Roshi nuked the whole continent in one Kamehameha? If so the Akatsuki doesn’t stand a chance. Never mind his crazy speed and regular potential one shot punching skills
@tono1768
@tono1768 Год назад
The only real problems are Obito, but the Mafuba will probably bypass Kamui, Itachi with the Yata Mirror if it can stop the Kamehameha, and Pain with his many bodies. If Roshi fights against the full team he probably loses tho
@coatguy2990
@coatguy2990 Год назад
I wouldnt call anyone in naruto a ninja. They are more like hidden leaf magicians. Like Japanese Harry Potter. Also, you just glanced over so many abilities of the weaker akatsuki members. Anybody gets a drop of blood from roshi, hidan one shots this guy since Roshi doesn't know the first thing about their abilities. Neither do they, but a Kamehameha could also be absorbed by Pains Preta Path if chakra and Ki work the same. Itachi could use genjutsu like Tsukuyomi as well. Deidara could just use C4 and destroy roshi on a molecular level. Not much he could do about that either. Obito just teleports roshi to the kamui dimension, what he gonna do about that? Like, there's so many ways the akatsuki can just get rid of this old geezer. Kisame could just use the Water prison jutsu as well so Roshi wouldn't even be able to move before drowning. Kakuzu may have a hard time as well as Sasori and Hidan if he's on his own. But over all, after Team 1 consisting of Kakuzu and Hidan which he already could potentially struggle with, Roshi would be f'd. He'd have very little energy left and against Sasori (who solo'd a country) and Deidara (who can just destroy him on a molecular level) which essentially would be a death sentence already. We don't even need to talk about the rest of the akatsuki. Normally I'm on the DB side since these characters are overpowered in any way, shape or form already. But when talking about the roshi you are talking about, this isn't even a fair fight. This is just a huge stomp in the Aktsuki's favor.
@kevinriquelme4691
@kevinriquelme4691 Год назад
Great video! Subbed.
@vibhadixit1153
@vibhadixit1153 2 месяца назад
The f*ckin thing is that he is faster than light
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer Год назад
It's everyone in Akarsuki at their strongest? Then what prevents Two Eye Obito from looking at Roshi and sending him to Kamui?
@elijahpyle9947
@elijahpyle9947 Год назад
really interesting matchup
@quazell88
@quazell88 Год назад
Can you do captains from black clover vs madaara
@alexrobinet7576
@alexrobinet7576 Год назад
This earned u subs today.
@doubtfultheorist9205
@doubtfultheorist9205 Год назад
Loving these videos man, keep going! Definitely sub worthy! Btw, if you're scaling them universally, what would the Tournament of Power team look like for the Elemental Nations from Naruto??
@RyanWithersAway
@RyanWithersAway Год назад
Idk man. I think Konan might be able to distract roshi for the akatsuki to have an opening haha
@lilX7X
@lilX7X Год назад
bro pain alone could just pull him and GG or he just use shibatu-tensei(im btw db fan its just clear who wins)
@bensylver5113
@bensylver5113 Год назад
dude roshi is just way toos trong if he want resist the pull pain will not pull him .
@4hmad3mk52
@4hmad3mk52 2 месяца назад
roshi is unironically an overkill for half of the verse or even the whole verse
@potato_boi9876
@potato_boi9876 Год назад
The question is can kamui pass through the mafuba im not sure since its more of a pull then a direct attack
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