Ukraine-Russia Series: S-200 vs Russian A-50 AWACS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C8u2exOV-0E.html Mirage 2000D vs Russian SAMs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9-Pci_wWsFI.html Patriot vs Russian A-50 AWACS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-G1rIT8Aj60A.html Strike On Ropucha In Feodosia: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JuXqdDkKzvE.html Air-Launched SM-6 vs Moscow: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-w65iggPTGWg.html Ukraine F-16s vs Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RYYA0vvpe4U.html ATACMS Missile vs Russian Bases: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vHWwA4IxcXM.html Ukr Hits S-400 & Sevastopol: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rwlEc9paJBw.html F-16s vs Russian Cruise Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BP3kf5oOezE.html F-16s vs Odessa Blockade: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VN2oUutiwkw.html A-10 Clear Minefields: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AhcnXiJdS1I.html US-Supplied Cluster Bombs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W4aRf9l5vGQ.html F/A-18 Hornet vs Su-35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nRrmU1upBqk.html F-16A MLU vs Su-35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FHxPMz5MhdI.html Patriot vs KH-47M" Kinzhal: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C-q1tWlLh0I.html Eurofighter vs Su-57: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OnKuV6259ck.html Rapid Dragon 2 vs Black Sea Fleet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sHTGKG1cYec.html MALD, Storm Shadow & AARGM-ER: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d6p0YY_VQZY.html Storm Shadow vs Russian SAMs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5wJPbBAj0WM.html Iskander vs Various SAMS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KxxahORODBA.html HIMARS vs Russian SHORADs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DI6yIt0goPA.html Storm Shadow vs Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UsHa9Fe29gI.html Rapid Dragon vs Black Sea Fleet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rvUTl6xjxqY.html Ukraine With JDAM-ER: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-deWnN1319Xw.html UK Typhoons vs Su-57: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OnKuV6259ck.html F-22 Raptors vs Russia President: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fcmt2kdebvI.html Air Force One vs Russia: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IDVULTyzcEw.html AGM-179 JAGM vs 2S38 & T-90: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6-f8GJzxg5E.html SEAD & ATACMS vs Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HJ0MgwXydyY.html IMP US Strike vs Black Sea Fleet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xSUAiTVwI6o.html HIMARS ATACMS vs Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uU_SPj0HQgo.html Sa-11 Buk Firing Sea Sparrow: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uBoryuBHfBQ.html US Strike vs Black Sea Fleet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KMwYjJghQiA.html Rus SEAD vs Modernized Patriot: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FdoyfKgaONE.html Rus Bombers vs Modernized Patriot: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Y961tLNE18.html JDAM vs S-400 Network: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wP4sfDG-01E.html Kinzhal vs Pac-3 & IRIS-T: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i0GzbajI0mU.html F16 or Gripen for Ukraine?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y-k71nfap4Q.html Mig-31 vs NATO Black Sea AWACS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vFOzjW25ItI.html R-37M Long Range Shootdown: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--3LKGL4w9Q4.html Drone Swarm vs NATO Defense: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wDBOSd9qCDs.html Patrio PAC-3/IRIS-T vs Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N5Z81iW8YNY.html MANPAD/IRIS-T vs Russian Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N9R9GUVcTyk.html AGM-158C LRASM vs Sevastopol: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GDZoDRhIIRw.html A-10s Operating in S-400 Nets: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5BwFlesg42o.html Modernized Su-27 vs Su-35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7llLDzeT2Bs.html Modernized F15/F16 vs Su-35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--TozTHbAXVs.html Can Su-57 Defend Russia From F-22/35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E-oC3NgxC94.html IMPROVED Stealth vs Russian Bombers: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IgwLW4YKvVU.html Ukraine Using Hellfire Missile?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s_1YHDTmPPw.html US Harpoons vs Russian Navy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oiee83CWRcE.html Ukraine Using APKWS?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FBxV9YuAfaw.html Ukraine US HARMs vs Russian S-400: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eSyEOXsjWo8.html Patriot/NASAMS vs Supersonic Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i1q7uDeinA4.html Fulcrum/Flanker vs Foxbat/Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BhXfxc94JAU.html NASAMS vs Russian Cruise Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pJI_b95jzpk.html Russian KH-47M2 vs Polish Air Force: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cnrVxqL5q9w.html Su-27 & Drone vs Snake Island: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T_oRoU2Ayfo.html Su-25s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ryV65bUJzrw.html NATO Eurofighters vs Crimean AWACS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EiJ2dFRh95g.html Patriot, Gepard & Gripen vs KH-65: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZhxdrNjig1g.html A-10s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B0tZoo0uLh4.html USN Tomahawk Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0vpi8xBygV8.html USAF Stealth Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IJbf9Bcxnw0.html Ukrainian Jets Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I8FumuZReB4.html F-22 Raptors vs Russian Fighters: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ComRcmrwJWk.html Raptor/Eagle vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-keqYmuSEo-8.html USAF Bombers vs Mariupol Defenses: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aCsboOG0QU4.html Ukraine Bombs Snake Island: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BX696MKdkb8.html Stealth Fighters vs Russian Bombers: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rym90jnQDsA.html Sinking Of Moskva #3: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NIjoyIieOzY.html Sinking Of Moskva #2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-snjfbj_EwW4.html Sinking Of Moskva #1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bxwh6MGLJNc.html Russia Nukes Britain: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rzk45RFQwA8.html Ukraine Uses Danish F-16s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-17Pikrp0QaY.html Ukraine Uses Polish Mig-29s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zCi4tAIzuOU.html Russian-Britain Missile Attack: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zwIGfabvzHA.html Ghost Of Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yrct8V4n1-U.html Belgorod Raid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mQykTxt6ftw.html Eurofighter/Fulcrum vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MPyIipEhgR0.html US Strike vs Odessa ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KeiOHgzic6Y.html Russian Helo Rocket Lob: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-118GgGnP_sM.html Russian Su-25 vs US Patriot SAM: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-asp69ZD_tO0.html Understanding Russian SAMs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R4xTxLNZXcw.html Ukrainian Jets Road Operations: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hBpzQhinPbw.html Russian 40 Mile Convoy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vr_-2FLblBk.html Flanker vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VOAuOFLJGk4.html
Given the A-50 runs a powerful radar, would an S-200 even need to go active to get most of the way there? If not, that would give you more time to get close and them less time to GTFO. Even without ARAD options, I'd think you could passively track the A-50 with ground assets and use that to guide the missile. At least to the point where the target would be able to see the missile thought jamming and being covert becomes pointless.
I read they have 300 km range, not 250... S-200V Vega All-weather long-range anti-aircraft missile system S-200 is designed to combat modern and advanced aircraft, air command posts, jammers and other manned and unmanned aerial attacks at altitudes from 300 m to 40 km, flying at speeds up to 4300 km / h, at ranges up to 300 km under conditions of intensive radio interaction
My nomination for the NextGen FrankenMissle system: a) HIMARS, long-range (ATACAMS is currently about 300 km; next gen is 500km, iirc) b) Mod the batpiss out of an AWACS radar to convert realtime XYZed coords into moving GPS-location with a predictive vector (simple math, boyz). c) slap some terminal guidance fins (spring-loaded to deploy only in last 5-10 km) d) SUPER-NES handset (a universally understood game controller) and a cheap nose cam to help guide the final km) Alternately, zip-tie (or velcro, your choice) a Peregrine to the nose of an ATACAMS... separate at pre-chosen distance, then Peregrine gets coords from AWACS and downs the baddy with a 100 km radius. Far cheaper than sending in F-15 missletruck and getting it shot down. Final choice: 99 LuftBallons - 10 carry a peregrine - 69 carry a chunk of irrigation pipe. - remaining 20 carry excessively loud street-rod sound systems thumping out Nina's best known song.
@@Cody38Super ?? A fully-loaded F-15 (in missile-truck config) has the RCS of a semi-truck**... and the same maneuverability. The F-35's return is that of a heavily laden swallow. Flight engagement doctrine is what is keeping the F-15's record clean these days. The main intent of my only-partially tongue-in-cheek post was to open a discussion about getting highly maneuverable, smart A2A weapons deep into enemy territory without attaching it to humans-riding-an-expensive set of wings like the F-15... such as the scenario noted in this video : the premise here was either S-200 or Patriot, but in the future we'll have more targets, dispersed and deep inside their own borders. An ATACAMS has a top speed of around Mach 3 (don't need to do extensive thermal shielding) and can ingress up to 500 km (prob a bit less with a peregrine attached) But the Peregrine's own system will gain back another 100 km, and be benefit from a high-altitude release point which the F-15 would not be safe doing. - no human risk - fast delivery - release at altitude - low cost/low risk. ** = approx 25m square (the most commonly cited number, and may indeed be for an F-15 in no-load config)
@@randalljones4370I didn't catch the tounge in cheek bit. An F-15EX's RCS is allegedly about 25m², fully laden thanks to electronic suite...however, with it's Growler EW system on board, and knowing the piss poor performance of Russian equipment, and the quality of our pilots, I don't see them hitting much(I know never underestimate your enemy,, but I find that hard to do with Russia these days).The Israeli's flew 2 F-35's into Syria over 4 or 5 Russian missile defense systems, hit a Hamas leader and flew back over the same systems and were never fired on. If by doctrine keeping the Eagle clean in ground attack roles, and meaning that 22's clean out threats, Wild Weasles clear out air defense first and that's why the Strike Eagles aren't getting hit, yes I agree. A C-model, or a new EX can hold its own with anything out there but the 22, but the 22 better be careful....allegedly. I love for someone to FAFO!
@randalljones4370 Yea a heavly laden swallow the first time it's ever seen, then added as a signature known to be from a F35, stealth planes are great, as long as you don't use them... which is why I suspect they are never used... Here is some food for thought, I have watched ukraine fly little tiny fpv drones into Russian AA and get shot down, a lot also miss because the things are the "size" off a heavly laden swallow, I also watched a patriot and a nasams get destroyed by a pretty big drone and they were also being watched by another drone and the patriot and nasams didn't see shit, the cutting edge western AA systems, being spied on from the air.. shocking I.e Russians are masters of signals intelligence.
The ADS-B plots of the A-50U show that it was orbiting parallel to the north of the south eastern coast of the Sea of Azov, which would put it well into the S-200 range envolope.
Wait, so let me get this straight. Russia would rather claim that they shot down their own a50; One of their most expensive and arguably important aircraft in their arsenal then confirm and give Ukraine the credit? Ok sure…
@rebelliousfew I've seen you raise the identical question multiple times. Likely you're a bot, but if not Russia has confirmed the loss of this A-50, lost to friendly fire. Second, multiple independent video graphic sources of the intercept and another video of IL-76 horizontal and vertical stabilizer parts about 5KM from crash site.
@@rebelliousfew theres a VIDEO of it too jajaja You can never erase the video of A-50 flare at night and shut down. Satellite image also confirms this, check it out.
@@keepyourbilsteinsY’all always criticize Russia for lying, so why would you believe a word they say? Could it be possible the Russians are lying about the loss to appear weak? And the “evidence” is in relation to the first A-50, not the current one that we are talking about. And accusing someone to be a bot shows me you’re pretty childish in holding your own in an argument. Act like an adult.
How much damage could Ukraine do if the us had trained and then delivered a flight of 4 f35 and or f22 aircraft with modern armarments without Russia finding out…. before Russia then realised what was happening, detected them and then subsequently shot them down?
@@rebelliousfew they repeatedly do war games for fun and not based in reality? It’s somewhat more likely then a ww2 bombing raid with modern stealth bombers ain’t it
@epledge3790 No, a custom ZX14. I had her up to 195-197 before I got scared and backed off. She was still accelerating too. Never got on a sport bike again after that, lol. But that's still a "bike" Just not a bicycle. Same idea applies, you never forget how to ride one.
😂😂😂😂😂 BROOOOO i was thinking the same. Guaranteed they watch EVERY VIDEO they put out but use a VPN so nobody can tell they're watching and learning from GR.
Getting a new gaming PC in a month that can run DCS at max, with throttle, pedals, etc. Hoping I can fly with y'all one day when I figure how TF to play this game.
it would be too easy to get guys into Russian forest with some manpads I really dont see integrating S200 into patriot as likely the missiles are old AF even after the upgrade kits, their big missiles that Russia would have seen
Pretty sure the A-50 would not move out of its patrol zone except to run away from a threat. They would not head towards the border because of jamming. They almost certainly didnt know where the S-200 launcher was located, and the Ukrainians found some way to launch/guide the S-200 on some other radar. (Patriot franken-SAM?)
The S-200 is not something that you can easily conceal, and with the constant surveillance of the front line, where it would have to launch from, I don’t find it plausible that this even occurred at all. No evidence has sparked up confirming this loss, so Cap saying it did happen tells me probably doesn’t stop to think when reading these articles.
Hey cap and crew. Long time viewer first time commenter lol, just wondering if in the Ukraine mission's be fun if you could implement stocks of planes and missiles. Say you used 5 jets and lost 1 next time you could only go out with 4 on the next mission. Possibly show the constraints what Ukraine struggles with military aid.
Cap, we're gonna need you to start adding some completely new people to the vids. The current crew had gotten much to competent. Not nearly enough explosions on take off and landing these days.
Good recreation of what might have happened. It wouldnt surprise me if Ukraine has been given some kind of extended range SAM, or several different ones... For example, a Standard Missile ER of some type, or Patriot. I wouldn't think that the shootdown was with SOF MANPADS, mainly because I would expect that the A-50 flies too high. Additionally, MANPADS have a smaller warhead so I'm not sure it would successfully destroy the A-50. One article, I think it was the Warzone, emphasized that the A-50's deployment of flares was unnecessary. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the countermeasures shoot out both chaff and flares with one button. Pilots should not be forced to press the "right" button when a missile is coming at them, especially if there is no guarantee that it isn't IR or radar guided. Also, if I recall some newer missiles have both radar and IR capabilities (even if they are prototypes).
#1- They VERY OBVIOUSLY have and have BEEN had Patriots. C'mon sir what do you know ANYTHING about the war or the weapons being used? #2- There actually IS pretty much a guarantee of what kind of countermeasure to use....IR missiles require FLARES as IR missiles detect and home in on HEAT and RADAR GUIDED missiles require CHAFF. Very simple equations and decisions. Now like you said granted in the heat of the moment the pilot should not have to focus on which to use. IR missiles(FOX 2's) do NOT give off a missile warning for the aircraft it's shooting at RWR (Radar warning receiver) or newer jets MWR (Missile Warning Receiver) and radar guided missiles (FOX 3's) DO. Now a FOX 1 is a SEMI-ACTIVE missile meaning it is guided by the firing platform UNTIL it hits it's TERMINAL STAGE (missile turns it's own radar on and guides itself to target). Lesson over. I'll be here alllllll week folks if ya be needing any more clarification. No disrespect or funnies meant, legit trying to help you out bro.
Folks......can we please dispense with the notion that the Ukes kludged Patriot Pac-2 radar and control unit to guide an S-200. That is mashugana. It's already a challenge for the United States military (Army/Navy/USAF/USMC) systems to talk to each other via datalink. There is some standardization out there like Link 16 but that's a slower information exchange link and not a specialized missile guidance link. In order for a legacy system like the missily guidance system like the Patriot to work with a Russian SAM......there would have to be hardware and software compatilbity. There are radio frequency (not hard), waveform (hard), xmitting and recceiving missile data link message formats (hard), and other compatibility challenges and that doesn't take into accout radio and data encryption. Yes I know a little something about the subject.
Air defence is a high priority target, often taken out by lancet drones or missile strikes. They probably move the S-200s around if they are using it. Although not very mobile, it can be moved.
Can you help me? Im trying to understand why Russia have struggled to gain much ground in this war given how many more planes and helicopters they had/have at the start? You never seem to hear about Russian air attacks in Ukraine. If they really have all this air power then why do they not bomb cities in the west of Ukraine?
Cap you are getting sloppy with your formation flying! In recent videos you tend to fly above others and you even crashed sometimes this way. I think you should pay a bit more attention to this. I know it's hard to film and fly though, so just a friendly observation ;)
There is no way the Russians deliberately hazarded an AWACS for any ground target. The only possibility, short of simple incompetence,, is that the Russians didn’t know the S200 had moved.
I read they have 300 km range, not 250... S-200V Vega All-weather long-range anti-aircraft missile system S-200 is designed to combat modern and advanced aircraft, air command posts, jammers and other manned and unmanned aerial attacks at altitudes from 300 m to 40 km, flying at speeds up to 4300 km / h, at ranges up to 300 km under conditions of intensive radio interaction
Unlikely, you'd need your own terminal seeker adding to the missile for that to work. Possible but would mean re-engineering the entire missile from scratch.
Pre-mission comment : Since the field-of-play has been moved south, the AWACS is now (potentially) over some higher ground. Could this make it more visible to the S-200's radar? Or, could it give the AWACS some terrain to hide behind, when needed? (probably not, because of it's operating altitude...)
Is it possible that the pilot and crew were under the assumption that based upon the range of the system which also includes an altitude as far as range that perhaps they thought they could effectively fly closer, utilizing the parabolic arch? Of the weapon system to their advantage and then unfortunately they miscalculated
The thing i find the most funny about the whole incident is how the media was acting like Ukraine won the war when they shot down that one AWACS. Yes it was an important strategic asset that Russia lost but unless Putin was in it, its just one aircraft at the end of the day and they can build another. Just like nobody would care about that one bomber in WW2 if Yamamoto wasn't on board.
Yep. Regardless if the second downing even occurred or not, this isn’t necessarily a severe blow to Russia. Russia may now only have 7 AWACS in service, but let’s not forgot that Russia has more A-50 in storage that, in the event they require more, they can take a few out of storage and modernize them to the A-50U standard, or they can simply build new ones, but taking old A-50’s out of storage is more cost-effective and quicker to do. Lastly, Russia has very high concentrations of ground-based radar systems, so them losing a (presumed) second A-50 is not a strategic advantage for Ukraine. It only delays the inevitable anyways
@@rebelliousfew It's extremely severe. The A-50 paints a picture for fighters and air defense. Russia is losing AWACS and Ukraine is scheduled to receive F-16s this summer. Long range drones flying under the radar were detected by A-50s. It's like you people can't see the pieces of the puzzle coming together. This is like noticing someone shut down the cameras and alarm system in a bank, and saying "nah there's not going to be a robbery".
Doesn't the S-200 potentially have a 300km/190mi range? The reason I ask is because the A-50 isn't really detecting enemy outside of that range anyway, meaning they might be forced into operating inside the danger zone just to be effective anyway.
read they have 300 km range, not 250... S-200V Vega All-weather long-range anti-aircraft missile system S-200 is designed to combat modern and advanced aircraft, air command posts, jammers and other manned and unmanned aerial attacks at altitudes from 300 m to 40 km, flying at speeds up to 4300 km / h, at ranges up to 300 km under conditions of intensive radio interaction
Great vid. From what I heard from UA experts, old s200 missiles used old circuitry, that very well could be replaced by modern electronics and 100+ kilo saved, added fuel, could be a new lighter warhead, hence the range could be 500+ km, plus it could be guided by usa awacs from the black sea realistically, together with pac radar
Yeh I do think about those ideas BUT the scenario always tends to escalate too far when I start modelling that, because I now have to model Red HIMAD and more realistic Red counter-Cap etc, and before you know it you've got a huge wargame that takes a week to set up, which is cool, but I can't do it at short notice.
If you needed those sidewinders, you were already in trouble. Real world Flankers can't look down - shoot down if you are on the deck. I never heard of that long range S200. Of course, Ukraine isn't bragging about them.
One of the safest jobs in US military service is taking any seat in an AWACS..... Your audience is a clever bunch, I don't have to say the other half of that ;)
why wouldnt they be using other sensors(or US intel) to know in general where a target is and keep the s200 or patriot turned off until right when they fire? theres no reason to keep it turned on for a long period before.
Following you guys for a few months now, wondering why you always put a smile on my face with every video, keep up the good work. Sorry Cap but Simba is the dude , backbone of the team x