Course Record Falls In Women's Race at Nuttycombe Invite - Full Replay 

This might be Parker’s year

hope so !!@@lunarsabbatical7906

Also a tuohy fan and I agree

Amazing Valby like her own pacer.

I been a Touhy fan for years. I think she has over worked herself. She run cross country, 1500, 3000, 5000, DMR and even ran a 10,000. Maybe she should cut down the number of races she runs.

@@tracyyoung224 but she has cut down this season I think she’s tapering for the trials.

@@tracyyoung224 Hard disagree with this analysis. Tuohy's time was extremely good today. Valby ran the course record. Tuohy was still over 23 seconds ahead of third place and 15 seconds ahead of her time from last year's meet. I can't see any way to analyze this race where I think that Tuohy ran a bad race and is burned out from track season that ended over 4 months ago.

she actually sat out the whole indoor season. she changed up her training a little bit and obviously it make a big difference. this was parkers season

She was injured.

Unfortunately they seem be taking turns running inefficiently. KT refused to draft off her nearly the whole race

She also never put any effort forth !

This reads like ChatGPT. Very confidently stating utter nonsense.

Real cross country would cross water and not be on nice grassy fields, we don't have real cross country courses.

hlooked like Katelyn was kicking and had faster turnover but she didn't close. Parker put the hammer down.

Right. The question about Bush is worrying. She was the very reliable third guy in, last season. If State can get KT, Kelsey, 'Maris and Sam performing up to potential, then there's got to be SOMEBODY out there who can score in the 30-40 range for number 5. At Joe Piane Leah was 4th and Grace was 9th. I like it. Bush, by the way, was 30th.

@@Philobiblion As strong as NAU looked Friday and plug in Amaris for NC State and Mazza-Downie for Florida, it's gonna be an interesting battle at Championships. And don''t sleep on BYU.

Oooookay. How many races have you won.😅😅😅😅 hagd

Transfer portal has them moving them up, but also their organic improvement has been key. Reiss moved up big time over last year with her Flagstaff training. Also, true freshman Aussie Keira Moore is going to be a force the next few years - I think she finished 18th. NAU has crazy depth as the B squad finished 1-2-3! Men's NAU team won without Colin Sahlman so who would likely be a competitor to score at the 5th spot so they can do even better later in the season. Bosley seemed bothered by the weather...never really kicked it into high gear, but he has lots of time to peak.

It is fun to watch Perry King's Starshine Reflections series where he has videoed all of KTs NY State races from seventh grade on. I think she started to beat Kelsey in 8th grade, then, about a year later, young Brooke Rauber comes along. Tuohy is a s tough as nails and I'm not worried about her. I just wish she'd forget about the Olympics. With the packed pro field right now she is not going to make the team this year.

Kara Goucher is really good. Also, Carrie Tollefson, who should be doing NCAAs.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned it, the rain 'softened' the course and that favors taller runners, particularly those like Valby with injury problems that make hard surfaces problematic. If Valby was a racehorse, she would be termed a 'mudder'. Touhy has improved since last year, as evidenced by her improved time, continuing to ascend and descend the hills better than the other runners, but the final reel-in was too little too late. This was Valby's course and Valby's day.

Interesting is never knew that no wonder she did great on the boston indoor course​ but she also did great at the nationals until he side stitch at the end that's have they others a small chance.@@johnspry8346

I think Touhy waited too long to sprint, and underestimated Valby a little

Parker Valby is now on another level AND injury free so far

Valby broke the course record. Tuohy ran 15 seconds faster than she did last year (when she won the NCAA title) and was over 23 seconds ahead of third place. This was all done in less than ideal conditions. I can't draw any conclusion that says Tuohy should've done anything more than she did, especially if you view this as a team race. I mean, Tuohy pretty much left Chmiel in the dust in order to try to keep contact. Even though Chmiel still managed third, from a team perspective I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to just let Valby go from the start. I'd love to hear what Tuohy's coach thinks.

Hard to say. Valby might just be in better shape right now.

@@ljn5232She probably is. This is her year to finally get an individual title in xc, if she can hold off Tuohy!

@@user-ix9mr1qr3t hey I can’t spell but I am still entitled to my own opinion your a big 🌂

Thats how I felt for valby always coming close but in second a few seconds back.

I don't think so. It was a downhill section and when a runner gets rolling fast downhill, they have to exaggerrate some arm swing to keep the torso from pitching over. Pretty sure they don't have a nasty rivalry where they'd be smacking each other, it'd be out of character for both runners.

Just jogging. To what would have been a course record if Valby hadn't broken it first. Also a big Tuohy fan but she was pushed hard today, got to give Valby credit.

Yeah, they both were way under last year's time. I was referring to a point I think around maybe 3k when Touhy seemed to be really bogged down. Someone else commented that Touhy came around the last turn " like a friggin eagle ", which was accurate. The only thing else I have noticed is between Jacksonville and Austin something happened and she hasn't seemed to be herself, she did run well at the US tournament where she finished 7th beating some olympians.

Florida is in the SEC so no Parker won't be at ACCs

At the end of last year, continuing into this year Miss Tuohy seems to be a bit off, her speed reduced. It could be she is in a cycle of training, overtraining, where second place is acceptable but not Katelyn's goal. My guess and I certainly could be wrong, is that Katelyn is training for nationals. We have to wait and see if this is the case. I thought she should have transferred after last year's fiasco in the 1500. I don't mean to be controversial AvocatDude

Nope

Even bigger lead in the 2023 xc NCAA championship.

Me too, but don’t count Tuohy out.

The downhill looked very slippery. Looks like their arms extended outward for balance??

You're a sicko, but I agree. I guess that makes me a sicko too.

Parker literally just beat her handily head to head. You can’t just assume Katelyn will be better at NCAAs and Parker won’t be. You compared 5k times but conveniently ignored their 6k xc times. Valby has run 18:25 compared to 19:08 from Tuohy. Valby also just ran a course record 19:17 here at Nuttcombe in bad conditions. That’s 12 seconds better than Tuohy and 27 seconds better than Tuohy’s time here from a year ago. It’s clear from this race that Valby is healthier and in better form than last year. This was the best performance of her career, and she is the clear favorite to win in November.

"Clear favorites" aren't decided on one race. Parker had a great race, but it was obvious early from Katelyn's facial demeanor, the edge and effortlessness was not there today for her. I suspect Virginia will be different. Hope both stay injury free to push one another. These 2 are the faces of American Distance running going forward. @@LaxStixTactics

@@LaxStixTactics You make good points. But looking at the trajectory of their careers, Tuohy is a generational runner; she has proved that already: owning the NCAA indoor 1500, mile and 3000 and the outdoor 5000, breaking a 14 year old record. Parker is a great runner who I predict will peak in mid-collegiate career and then never reach that apex again. But we shall see. I believe Katelyn, in her incremental improvement from season to season, starting in 7th grade, is not merely the outstanding athlete of the season, but, if she chooses to pursue pro running, a very rare runner on a scale with Emily Sisson, Elise Cranny, Jenny Simpson, Shalane Flannagan, Whittni Morgan, Alicia Monson and a few others I could name if my memory were not failing because of age. Obviously. on Friday, Parker was the more fit runner; she won, and good for her. I hope, and would pray, if I were religious, that Parker stays healthy. ( I do surround her with warm, healing light).) Looking ahead, I think a few things in this order: 1) Henes' full time obsession is in running auditions for a fifth guy in who can break 35. If Tyynismaa is healthy and at potential, and Sam Bush (a worry) can make her last two year's result, then the Wolfpack is looking, as usual for a fifth guy in at whatever it needs to be to win. Last year Brookie was 90th, scoring 78 to cop the title. Scoring 78 she was actually the first 5th guy in out of the other 30 teams after the Lobos.. But this year, NAU is the monster, and even with, let's say 3-4-9, and 15 to 20, the Pack will need a fifth guy who scores below 35 to beat NAU. Stephens? Loveys? Quarzo? Napoleon? Who knows? Brooke's 90th place isn't going to cut it this year, no matter if Katelyn is first, second or third..

@@Philobiblion I’m not arguing that Parker has had a better career or that she’ll go on to have more success in the future. Obviously Katelyn has accomplished more up until this and I agree that she’ll probably go on to have a better professional career as well. My argument was specifically about this cross country season. My main point was simply that based on how good Parker looked in this race and based on her prior cross country credentials and the fact that she finally looks fully healthy, I believe that she’s the favorite to win the national meet in November. Obviously things can change, and I’m sure it will be a great race regardless of who ultimately wins. As far as the team race goes, it should be a great battle between NAU and NC State, and the health/form of Bush and Tyynismaa will definitely be a major factor. I also wouldn’t count out BYU, as they looked absolutely phenomenal this past weekend at pre-nationals.

@@LaxStixTactics Repeating is hard. I think since they went to 6k in 2000 only three people have done it: Shalane, Sally Kipyego (who three-peated) and Sheila Reid most recently in 2010-11. I want to see what KT does at ACCs and regionals. If she wins both then I will look for her to win at NCAAs. If she loses one or both, then I would have to go with either Parker, Hilda or Doris.

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