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CPM MagnaCut is HERE - 250 Grit Edge Spyderco Mule Knife DESTROYS Rope of Death 

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Yeah, I am officially a bit in love with this new CPM MagnaCut Steel.
Also check out my tutorials on dual grit sharpening.
What's a dual grit edge, you may ask?
Think: high performance aggressive knife edge!!! This brand new method for versatile razor sharp knives is fast, easy, and leads to edge retention increases of up to 50% in some tasks! Watch my tutorials to quickly learn innovative hand sharpening techniques with wet stone, diamond plate, & honing strop.
The dual grit method is a specific method for sharpening one side of the edge coarse and the other fine: • Part 2: Coarse & Smoot...
And the results have been observed by independent testing:
• This wacky sharpening ...
If you're curious about the science behind the edge mechanics, check out this scienceofsharp.com article in which Dr. Todd Simpson analyzes the effect:
scienceofsharp...
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This simple, brand new method works on any blade, shape, & geometry - plus all kinds of steel, and sharpening systems and can be customized to different grits to optimize for specific tasks - with razor edged professional results!
Whether your passion is bushcraft knives, survival blades, hunting & fishing knives, edc knives, or kitchen knives - this method could revolutionize the way you sharpen your knives and make your edge last far longer!!! Start now and create INSANE High Performance Knife Edges!
NOTE that I am neither endorsed nor certified by BESS Universal, and am only using the machine for my own personal research. "BESS", "Edge on Up", and "PT50A" are all registered trademarks of BESS Universal.
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@archivist17
@archivist17 2 года назад
Revelling in the joy you're showing!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
I was so amazed - it really is a different stainless steel from all the others.
@billbush1270
@billbush1270 2 года назад
This was a joy to watch. Now I know what to get to open my Amazon boxes and those letters from the mailbox! LOL!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
So many boxes before needing to be resharpened Bill... So many boxes... Don't even get me started on letters!😆
@adx442
@adx442 2 года назад
I have a Bradford Guardian 3.5 in Magnacut and it has quickly become my favorite blade. The hype is real on that steel. I've used it for food prep, breaking down heavy gauge boxes, carving wood, feathersticks, cutting carpet, and kindling batoning when I didn't have my hatchet with me. I think I've needed to strop it back twice in a few months, it hasn't needed a real sharpening yet. I hit a hidden steel staple with it hard breaking down a box, with no damage. I've done that with an M390 version of the same knife and micro-chipped it pretty badly. I was impressed.
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
That's AWESOME. I have 2 close friends that are looking for EDC fixed blades - talked them both into Bradford Guardians in MagnaCut. I'm not super surprised by your good experience, given its performance here - but thanks so much for sharing bro. Have a great day.
@adx442
@adx442 2 года назад
@@homeslicesharpening I had another stress test incidentally this week. I'd advise your friends to pick a Kydex sheath and tell Bradford you'd like a credit on it for not getting the leather sheath. My leather one has been worn every day for about 4 months, and it's already loose. So loose that my Guardian slipped out of retention (horizontal sheath) and fell 3 feet to the polished concrete floor in Walmart, landing blade first. I was very happy no one noticed. Again, though, no chips, dings, rolls, or damage of any kind. Didn't notice any sharpness changes at all.
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
@@adx442 That's insane! I dropped my Spyderco Military in M4 on concrete and the apex was murdered!
@stevenlachance8576
@stevenlachance8576 2 года назад
Gabe your excitement is contagious in a good way! And wow magnacut is 🥵 🔥 may your Bess and golf scores be low.
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Haha, the knife nerd blessing. May you live long and prosper, May your BESS Scores be ever low, Your golf scores be even lower, And your apex always untainted by burr... 🖖🏻
@harrisquicksilver6595
@harrisquicksilver6595 Год назад
I love the death rope brother, nice idea with it having real atributes like sand and gritty things to really test those edges. Im a fan & "a believer" 😆
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
Oh, thanks heaps dude! I sent the best performer so far in the dual grit Death Rope tests (CPM MagnaCut) over to Pete at Cedric & Ada and it outperformed all previous edges except elastic ceramic - so I guess it must be measuring something good! (It held the record until Shawn Houston edged me out with his Spyderco 15V, lol) Take care man, thanks for the comment!
@grumpyuncle.
@grumpyuncle. Год назад
I thought love was only true in fairy tales... Gotta love that Magnacut! Love the enthusiasm for a good edge. Well done!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
Thanks man - and good song identifying haha!
@wadejensen3301
@wadejensen3301 2 года назад
Wow great result! Now I'm really looking forward to seeing the different sharpening protocols for this steel!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Me too - once it comes back from Pete hehehe ;)
@jeroenvoss6231
@jeroenvoss6231 2 года назад
You looked as happy as a kid that's given the key to the candystore! Something about dreams coming true. Yes that was really amazing Gabe. I know what's under your pillow tonight hahaha. Thank you friend.
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
I was so happy, hahaha. I hope you get your hands on some MagnaCut soon my friend. Take care.
@bigaspaulo
@bigaspaulo 2 года назад
OK, this is getting easy for you now! ;) Well done, once again!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
It's still blowing my mind! Haha, good to hear from you Paulo!
@wincingatlight
@wincingatlight 2 года назад
Love seeing your channel grow, Gabe! Keep up the good work!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Oh, thanks Darren! How have you been doing?
@sneakhyperion9297
@sneakhyperion9297 Год назад
That's some solid performance. Wonder how hard spyderco ran the magnacut mules
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
I’ve seen/ heard of tests that registered 62.0, 62.9, 63.0, and 63.5. Probably in the 63 range is a pretty close guess for the average MC mule.
@MR0B0T0
@MR0B0T0 Год назад
Thanks for the comparison between magnacut and the heavy hitters M4 and maxamet!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
No problem Jimmy! Very strange and surprising results from this Death Rope! Take care dude.
@miekadriaens
@miekadriaens 2 года назад
I love magnacut and want it to to massively succeed thus becoming more mainstream and affordable
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
AMEN! Mainstream in everything except Heat Treatment. If we could get well heat-treated MagnaCut, I feel the world would be a better place!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Cheers bro - thanks for the comment!
@KnifeNinjaEDC
@KnifeNinjaEDC 2 года назад
I’d be interested to see 10v/k390 on this test. I’ve been meaning to try your dual grit on magnacut. I got a 63-64hrc one that would be awesome to test on. Thanks for all the great content 👍
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Thanks bro - you have some cool knives on your channel too! I have never tried either steel, but always wanted to - good news is I have a custom maker sending me some 64 HRC CPM10V when I get back to the States this Christmas. I'm going to bring it back and test the death rope! Take care, have a great day Tony!
@kaizen5023
@kaizen5023 Год назад
yeah i hear K390 is the bees knees, but is it better than Magnacut?
@BradGryphonn
@BradGryphonn 2 года назад
Compared to other steels fighting the ship rope, this thing was cutting butter.
@archivist17
@archivist17 2 года назад
Just below this video, RU-vid gave me an ad for Huusk knives, with the strapline 'Cuts everything like butter' No, ad campaign manager, it does not. Not at all. Know what does? CPM Magnacut! On a bit of a loser trying to sell Huusk to anyone who knows anything about knives 😄
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Yeah Brad - I was floored that a stainless would do this!
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
@@archivist17 HUUSK Knives NOOOOOO hahahahaha 🤣 The irony of that moment for you was great. I would happily allow HUUSK to send me a blade to test their theory about their pot metal cutting everything like butter. The Death Rope may not agree.
@archivist17
@archivist17 2 года назад
@@homeslicesharpening Oh I would absolutely LOVE to see Huusk v DethRope 💀💀💀😂
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
@@archivist17 By the end of that video there would be a perfect Death Rope shaped dent in the blade of the HUUSK 🤣
@danielbottner7700
@danielbottner7700 Год назад
Much appreciated ... Awesome perspective of honestly, along with real world research/testing. I am focusing on cutting board kitchen knives. My favorite test subjects ... sweet potatoes. Low lateral stability of cutting edges seems their greatest weakness. Are you testing edges for lateral stability ?
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
Sounds like interesting testing - do you have any favorite steels for your kitchen knife testing? I do an edge toughness test now that indirectly tests lateral stability, but not one that tests it absolutely directly. I hammer the edge into a pine piano leg 3 times with a 5 kg weight and measure BESS after. Edges with low lateral stability will roll or break on the pine, resulting in a larger BESS increase. This is the first test in my new series: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BeiIThaFrGs.html
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
Thanks for the encouragement too! Cheers Daniel.
@danielbottner7700
@danielbottner7700 Год назад
​@@homeslicesharpening The formula for knife steels with extremely good performance is understood by well respected European & Japanese knife companies. Most of those steels would likely test out durability wise in the top 20% for intended use case scenario. In real world terms today, it is more about quality control in the steel forging, hardening & machining processes. I currently work with more X50.Cr.Mo.V15 European steels than Japanese steels but I am testing both. I am extremely happy to have stumbled across your youtube channel as there are likely very few in the world with the intelligence to understand the issue & it's importance to humanity of the future. We often work alone attempting to solve these issues because most lack the passion, perseverance & capabilities to even attempt this research. I am also willing to share my insights & concepts for innovative custom builds of my test rigs to save you some time in the process. I am more focused on kitchen knives used on a cutting board. Narrowly defining a real world use case scenario will allow one to focus their minds on the most revenant issues & solutions. Contact info to share images & drawings will be important, my info is readily available on the internet at www.starlight123.com.
@lukuscarter3563
@lukuscarter3563 Год назад
Very interesting test. Maybe Spyderco wants a salt series knife that will hold an edge longer, but not as corrosion resistant is LC200N. I’m not sure. Just actually just received my Spyderco Mule Team 35 CPM Magnacut. And since you brought it up, I may consider doing the test. Thanks for your review. Subbed
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
Thanks for the sub! I have been really impressed by this Mule - but have not done any corrosion testing so far. Let me know if you find a good sharpening protocol for yours or have any fun test results with your Magnacut mule!
@bigaspaulo
@bigaspaulo 2 года назад
BESS really only measures push cutting sharpness at a very small point along a knife edge. CATRA testing measures slicing sharpness along an edge, but does the grit-impregnated paper media approximate dirty death rope? Probably better than BESS does.
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Hmmmm interesting thought - probably the bigger similarity is that Death Rope only responds to slicing sharpness like CATRA, where BESS measures push cutting keen-ness and to some extent, apex stability (IE will tell you if you have a feather burr). However, the Rope of Death is no respecter of push-cutting keen-ness.
@tophat2002
@tophat2002 2 года назад
Interesting
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
And surprising!
@OGMoose-rm7vz
@OGMoose-rm7vz 2 года назад
So how would Cruwear stack up?
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
I don't know, I'm dying to try it out, but going along on a pretty small budget, and it can be hard to find CruWear (though it's getting easier these days). Hopefully someday soon I'll get my hands on some, when I do you know I'm gonna bust out the Death Rope! Take care bro.
@lashazaridze813
@lashazaridze813 Год назад
where can i buy properly heat treated slabs of this steel ?
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
I’m not sure, most custom makers I talk to order steel through Alpha Knife Supply, but I don’t think they have MagnaCut at the moment 🙁
@yankee23a
@yankee23a 2 года назад
BOOM..!!!! its done .... Crazy Lady Karen Death rope defeated 😅 ....Magnacut wins 🏆.....nothing more to be said...mike drop 👊 🎤
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening 2 года назад
Haha, courtesy of my patient donors, thanks for making this one happen. It was a sight to behold 👊🏻 Well done bro.
@sabelfechter7136
@sabelfechter7136 Год назад
You did something reeeeally wrong to make it 280g after sharpening!? Usual is ~150g for beginners, ~100g for non beginners, and
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
Hey Sabelfechter, nice to meet you. This edge test was not oriented for BESS keen-ness but a comparison of a messy, fully coarse edge, not deburred fully to compare longevity on this particular rope with the buffed and mostly deburred factory edge which failed to pass through this ship rope. I think your BESS numbers hold true for a preset-angle system; most of the hand sharpeners I know can get 100-150g but under 100 BESS can be hard, especially with conventional steel. I have been getting numbers regularly lately in the mid 80's at a 17 dps. If you are actually getting under 50 without a wicked edge/KME etc. at angles that can hold up to daily use (like 15 dps or moer) then props to you bro! You've got a steady hand and a lot of skill if that's the case. That said, if you are accomplishing that by hand, I would love to see you post up a tutorial that helps others achieve the same results. With regards to dual grit being a busted myth: I assume that you are referring to the article written by Todd Simpson. I provided the sample edges for Todd to write that article and the research that has been done has been collaborative between he and I. There is a difference between busting a myth and learning together, and we're doing the latter. With regards to dual grit lacking lateral stability, and it not being fair to compare angle to angle directly - and your desire to see what happens if dual grit was subjected to wood carving or high impact, you can review the following "1000 chop test" video where I discover that a denim stropped edge is much more durable than dual grit, and openly change my high impact test edge to a micro-convex. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C-QD3WIa_s4.html Thanks for your comment, you really know your stuff. As far as I'm concerned, we're all on the same team trying to learn the micro-physics of edge holding. I am totally ok with dual grit being whatever it is, and have no need for it to be "the best". I would welcome your thoughts in the future, you seem like you have good things to say. No need to say them in an adversarial way - I'm already listening. Have a great day dude, and take care.
@sabelfechter7136
@sabelfechter7136 Год назад
@@homeslicesharpening Great to hear you did a test on wood. And yes that fully explains the BESS result! I agree with it being a learning process, but there was an excessive amount of hype and "BESTEST EDGE EVAR" titles all over the internet that likely reached more people and left them misinformed than the conclusion video and article that it was an unequal comperasion, and lower angle normal edges perform equal. My sharpening technique is very simple in practice, but takes a moment to explain, it merges the key goals in sharpening: -short time spend on sharpening -fastest possible touchups -high quality edge -stable apex -very low wedging Usually those are contrary to each other in different ways. A for example 17dps edge will have a stable apex, but wedge due to the shoulders. A high quality edge isnt easy to get by fast touchups. It works well on super thin ground knives, but fully thinning a knive by hand is an insane amount of work and time. So here is how to do it (works best on flat or hollow grind, okish on sabre grind): Remove material with coarse grit at 10dps to thin it, creating a "relief"/"transition" bevel. Take a wooden or plastic block in the size of a sharpening stone, use glue or double sided tape to add a ~2mm silicon rubber sheet on it. Rub glue stick on the silicon rubber, put a sheet of fine sandpaper (cut to the same size) on it (i use harder silicon carbide sandpaper.) Now "apex" it at your intended angle* with very light edge trailing passes. Between 3 to 10 alternating passes per side! (3 for max cutting performance, 10 for stability like carving harder and uneven wood.) *15dps for stable steel, towards 20dps for less stable steel (The change in angle makes insane jumps in grit possible, due to contact area with the abrasive being fully minimized. Also the silicon rubber backing and light passes produce a much smaller burr and weakens the steel less.) Now about 15 or 20 alternating passes per side on a leather strop with compound. =free standing hair popping You now got a much less wedging 10dps relief with a for example 17dps stable apex, that you can fully resharpen/touchup with very few passes (+stropping) due to the minimized surface area in contact! It takes like 60sec for a full quality touchup. Which you can do a certain number of time until you have to thin the 10dps relief again (which is worlds faster than full thinning). The sandpaper around here is 280x230mm, so i cut it in three 76,6x280mm stripes, which gives a nice "large wetstone" shape. The thing people need to realize is that where one truly needs stability is the apex, everthing behind it is usually waaay stronger than it ever needs to be. So the actual edge bevel can be a from the side barely visible 0,1mm/0,004" to be very stable, or 0,05mm/0,002" for extra cutting performance. Behind that the knive can be drastically thinned to reduce wedging and make touchups faster, except that to flat thinning takes to much time, therefore the middleground of +-10dps. Depending on task one can find the optimal edge size and by that amount of passes for the steel by testing a very small edge with 2 to 3 light alternating passes per side + stropping, then cut the intended material in the intended way, and check under a strong lupe the edge bevel size and the damage size. In the rare case of the damage being as large as the edge bevel (hard uneven carving) one can use slightly more passes instead and check again. Its a pain to see all these high quality steel knives at 17dps with thick BTE wedging shoulders on instagram.
@homeslicesharpening
@homeslicesharpening Год назад
@@sabelfechter7136 Thanks for clarifying. Yeah, that makes sense - I will admit that I go farther than I'd like to the side of "click-bait titles". I can understand your concern for that - even the thumbnail of this video is more misleading than I'd like. So I can see your point. It may not be true, but it feels as if - if you don't dramatize your thumbnails somewhat that they get drowned out by other people's click bait, so it seems one needs to keep up with the way things are done on RU-vid. I don't like it TBH. Your edge sounds absolutely incredible. After I study some apex-dynamics on stones, I am hoping to tinker with a similar dynamic. Perhaps thinning the edge bevel far more than usual (10-12 degrees), and doing a small micro-bevel at a more robust angle. I may even try your method when I get to that point. Thanks for the reply, that was cool bro. Take care.
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