Cracking an Ignition Tumbler (Re-key and Replace w/out Programming)

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@talis84 15 дней назад

Rainman Ray's the lockpicking lawyer Repairs.

@carsparks1980 15 дней назад

Now, can Ray pick the lock in less than one minute? 🤣

@russellstyles5381 15 дней назад

@@carsparks1980 Wonder if lock picking invokes the 10,000 hour rule. Surely not for picking alone.

@davidhomen4528 15 дней назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@MichaelTilton 15 дней назад

Tuned into Rainman Ray's repair, and watched a Lock Picking Lawyer episode!

@scotts4125 15 дней назад

Good job Ray. I'm an automotive locksmith. We don't do too much if any rekeying any more. Back in the day when I was on the road myself I had keying kits for just about every car out there. I replaced more ignitions than I can count. Since transponders came out now we basically do 2 things and stay busy all day. We make/program lost keys/fobs and lockouts. We just don't have time for the repair stuff and to be honest programming and lockouts are much more profitable so we would lose money taking repairs on. People get mad and say "I thought you were a car locksmith" lol. I don't care I have to do what's good for business. Glad someone is still willing to do that stuff for people. Interesting I never saw kits like that. I would buy the locks from wholesalers and we would use large kits with all the wafers and springs for a particular brand. They aren't interchangeable unless they use the same cylinders. For you DIY guys if you get one that is hanging up and you don't want to buy a keying kit or new cylinder you can remove the bad wafers and spring for that chamber. It's a hack job and I never did it but OK for a DIY guy. With the cylinder out and the key in the lock you can see which wafer doesn't look right and or not sitting flush. Usually it's bent and or very worn. This is a common thing on Honda's. The key stops turning in the lock. Doors and ignitions. VW's have issues with the ignition housing. Basically the key stops turning because a part broke off in the housing.

@annone6462 15 дней назад

I’m totally going to just remove the bad wafers from here on out. Nobody tell on me.

@bohdanked 14 дней назад

You are right about Hondas. I had a 2004 Honda Civic, when it was around 5-6 years the door lock would not turn. The first tumbler turned out to be worn out. I could not find a rebuild kit anywhere so I just throw it away. In the next 5-6 years the next tumbler wore out, threw it away. Then the trunk lock tumbler went bad. It was nice to see how the actual repair is done.

@mattc.310 14 дней назад

I can vouch for the VWs. Had the housing break on ours. Took it over to a keymaster and had it repaired. Same keys, no problems.

@scotts4125 14 дней назад

@@bohdanked This is the crazy thing about Honda. They have been using the same crappy wafers for 20 years. This is a known issue to them and they never fixed it. You just didn't know where to look but any locksmith supply sells Honda keying kits. The door locks are a PITA to to R&R. They have a little clip that's fun to get in and out.

@scotts4125 14 дней назад

@@mattc.310 On the VW's it's a little piece of metal that breaks off inside the housing. It's for the steering wheel lock. It basically wedges the key cylinder from turning. You can actually take them apart, remove the broken piece and put it back together. Your wheel won't lock any more when you pull the key out. VW has known about this issue for years. What your guy did was change the housing and reuse the key cylinder most likely or he did what Ray did and rekey a new cylinder along with a new housing. None of this is rocket surgery. The issue is when you can't turn the key to depress the retainer like Ray did. That's when it gets a lot more involved. That's usually what auto locksmiths deal with.

@sd1rager 15 дней назад

Hell yeah! Was hoping the owner would green light most of the repairs. It will be satisfying to see a little glory returned to this build.

@Rasspor 15 дней назад

Another successful repair by the Rainman Ray. As an old timer mechanic i enjoy watching great repair videos. Thank you Ray!!! Keep up the content.

@randybeard6040 15 дней назад

Since I am 77 years young, back in the day, we just replaced the switch, due to Computer Controls things have changed for the worse in my opinion...

@pops4682 13 дней назад

You surprised me Ray. I worked at GM dealerships for many years doing 15a work. I was the only one there who could re-key lock cylinders. Your knowledge is really vast. You do it all! Heavy line, brakes, driveability etc. You are a rare breed. BTW I love seeing young families doing well.

@cecewd405 15 дней назад

I thoroughly enjoyed this video. You don't have to explain the process but you share this information with your viewers and it's appreciated!

@brucekellett2269 15 дней назад

I think I'm watching too many of Rays videos. I grabbed my car keys jumped in my car to drive down to the local auto shop. Trouble is I got in the left hand front but I live in Australia the steering wheel is on the right hand side !

@Pointlesschan 15 дней назад

Lol

@Racingnut24 14 дней назад

Uhh yeah that is a problem

@Sman7290 13 дней назад

Are you sure it was the auto shop you were heading for? Sounds more like a run to the liquor store for a refill.

@gharr5261 15 дней назад

Good video of rekeying a replacement lock to match the old one. Wish I had seen this before doing the same on a Ford Superduty a while ago. At least I got it done and it made a world of difference. I learned not to have so many keys etc. on the ignition key ring to avoid wearing out the switch prematurely.

@johnhpalmer6098 15 дней назад

Yep, learned that on an old Click and Clack episode years ago and have done the same to prevent the ignition lock cylinder from wearing out at almost 200K miles on the odometer.

@martinwilliams1784 15 дней назад

Are we all thinking when the little key bit flicked out, if that was me it would be off the bench and down a nearby drain. Great video, thanks

@hervewasson5173 15 дней назад

Hello Ray, just to let you informed : I own a WK (WH diesel) 2006. I got a recall 2 years later from Jeep France to replace the cylinder because it was really smooth to turn and some customers , just in lightly hitting the key with her knee could make the key turning and stop the engine. Can you imagine doing this on high speed on a highway. When I got the new cylinder replaced on mine, I noticed and was surpised and curious how hard it was to turn the key off, at a point that I was affraid to break the key !! I still have my WK nowadays and never had a problem or break the key :) Enjoy. Herve.

@dondywondy 13 дней назад

Excellent video on something I had not seen or done before (and I believe that is true for most people). Thanks for recording, editing and posting your videos, I know it is a lot of work and I really appreciate it!

@billinphoenix255 15 дней назад

You did real good with those small parts. I spent 40 yrs as a locksmith/safe tech. The front tumblers wear more and the plug gets deformed, hence the the tough removal of number two tumbler. If the sticking is not real bad a new code cut key to factory specs (not just a copy of the worn key) may fix the problem. I like to puff a little graphite in my locks once a year. Great Vids Ray & team

@rjb6327 15 дней назад

You have to start a new channel called "I fix Jeeps". Nothing better for a Jeep than Dorman parts. Good for GM too. Always nice to see Lauren.

@charlesboyd3889 13 дней назад

Ray your videos take me back to when I worked as an automotive mechanic. You remind me of the good old days. I think your channel has been better since you opened your own shop. Keep it up and keep supper Dave he’s A good egg. I hope the new guy works out for you all

@jacobemerson8015 13 дней назад

I did a complete auto to 5 speed swap on my '04 Silverado a few months ago. I swapped the column and saved my old ignition barrel, I didn't want to just swap the igniton because the manual has a safety release built into the tumbler, and of course the auto ignition doesn't, so I planned to eventually take them both to a local locksmith shop and have him swap the tumblers, the problem with that is the old guy only works a couple days a week and takes his time on stuff like that, plus I'd actually have to remember to drop them off 😅, but after watching this video I may attempt it myself

@mariansinoaie2303 15 дней назад

Ray, I used to do this kind of key-ing on all locs with an angle grinder in the field. I had a couple of hundreds of pins and springs... I never ever grease the pins because if you do, that accumulates dust and degradation of the metal parts. The only acceptable lubricant for locs and tumblers is graphite. Dust not aerosol spray. I mean you do great work and I love your videos, very educational. 🤗

@Justin_LaNoue 13 дней назад

Just curious, what about dry PTFE spray? I use that on small push mower axles etc. to not attract dust.

@mariansinoaie2303 13 дней назад

@@Justin_LaNoue haven't tried. I just carried normal pencils ✏️ in the plastic case where I had everything and used to use fine sand paper to sand the tip of the pencil and used that dust as a lubricant. I believe PTFE is a hard-ish coating on the already small parts and that introduces size on the already small tolerances. Because of this, i wouldn't use it. You're better off not using anything. Just put it together without any lubricant. The tolerances are large enough and there no force to gauge the metal. Keep in mind that I used graphite because I used to do this for apartment buildings before proxy cards were a common thing and most people used keys to get in. I wouldn't use it for my home as I don't open the door 50-100 times a day. For normal use, just leave the metal clean.

@neilmcdonald2920 15 дней назад

In every business there is always a key man

@aoksys31 15 дней назад

When messing with tiny parts, you should use several white microfiber towels to line your work area. They are terrific in keeping your parts from walking, rolling, or bouncing away.

@imagseer 15 дней назад

Even better in a tray so they can't jump out😊

@ELee-fr4tr 4 дня назад

@@imagseeras per lock picking lawyer

@Kdavis795 15 дней назад

Once again you surprise me with a special part or procedure that I never knew existed Thanks Ray and great video

@Macabri_2k10 15 дней назад

Take a shot everytime Ray says "tumbler"

@nissan300ztt 13 дней назад

Youre doing a far better job at doing repairs than many mechanics ive saw. Many mechanics will just say it came in that way. Even though they themselves broke it. Which is why I take photos before leaving the dealer.

@RonRussell-sj1zf 15 дней назад

Ray, you continue to amaze me with your knowledge of EVERY facet of a vehicle! Never seen a lock rebuild before, so thanks.

@almostfm 15 дней назад

I was getting ready to say I'd never seen a lock rebuilt before, so I'll piggyback onto your comment.

@Wheel_Horse 15 дней назад

When I do anything that has small spring I always take it apart inside a plastic bag. Catches parts that like to 'disappear'.

@petermccoll469 13 дней назад

Nice repair! Enjoyed the video,even simple repairs are great to watch

@wallace3953 14 дней назад

Ray. You really know Everything.....this was so satisfying to watch....for a while, we were all Keyed Up....but in the end, perfection! great work....

@RenegadesGarage 13 дней назад

Rainman Ray.. I used to like building lock cylinders. Probably because the other two ASE Master Tech's ( I was the third) didn't like doing them so the boss always "let" me do them. I hated them at first but after a few of them I started to like doing them.

@garyslentzii2796 15 дней назад

This was such a great video. Lauren is looking fine today. Ray, you're a very lucky man. Great family man.

@charlesboyd3889 13 дней назад

Ray I have never done anything like this. I have learned something new today. Thank you

@tmackinator 13 дней назад

One of the more interesting video I have seen. Nice job.

@john_thorpe 14 дней назад

A couple suggestions. 1.) I would have used a bottle brush and twisted that in the cylinder housing of the car and then blown it out with compressed air to remove any potential metal shavings from the old cylinder. 2.) I would have felt to make sure that all the wafer pins (which is what they're called) are totally flush with the cylinder, it looks like Ray did, but if the key is worn down enough, it may have just a slight offset causing it to barely catch on the sheer line (which is what Ray is talking about at the 19:40 mark when he calls it the housing body). 3.) I'd use graphite powder for lube as the grease would pick up dirt particals over time and potentially cause the lock to become difficult to insert the key or turn the cylinder.

@bobberndt9744 14 дней назад

That "jumping tumbler" was a 10mm socket in a previous life. It knew you had replacements so it "let" you find itself easily.

@mobility63 15 дней назад

Tedious work. Bravo!

@peterhammonds1573 13 дней назад

In the motorcycle world we have a similar issue with keys jamming up in the barrel, baring in mind that ours are exposed to the elements ( it rains a lot in England ) its probably twice as bad as a car. To fix the the problem we run a graphite pencil up and down the key and slot it in and out and repeat the application as many time as necessary. It works brilliantly and frees up lock. As young engineer I was told never put any lubricant down the barrel or your asking for trouble. Motorcycle locks can mega-expensive and are often a pain in the butt to remove having been fitted with sheer-bolts 🤨

@joemuncie9187 15 дней назад

When I was in junior high school I started working on locks. I've been re-pinning cylinders ever since. My office furniture (day job) had locks with the same pin design as those. I re-pinned all my friend's desks and cabinets so they only needed one key.

@farmerjer9339 15 дней назад

Don't forget to return the used parts for extra profits!...😂😂😂

@robertpimpo4698 14 дней назад

That's incredible ray nice job on that switch

@craigferguson786 15 дней назад

That was interesting to watch. Patience is a virtue when dealing with teeny tiny parts. Good job.🥳

@411NOW 14 дней назад

Its not just a Jeep thing. I had to replace the complete ignition in my Dodge 1500. Wish I could of found a video like your or anyone for that matter to show how to do it. Wish I would of thought to play some 4 non blondes, yet for some reason I forgot to. Thank you for the video Ray

@ronsloan7662 15 дней назад

Hey Ray, that was really interesting. I've never seen that before so I learned something new. Cheers!

@traceyelliot8571 15 дней назад

your skills never seize to amaze me the bloke even can rebuilt an ignition lock

@orasmiller1273 15 дней назад

Love the slow-mo replays ❤

@Cocora22 14 дней назад

that was super cool. i can't beleive how interesting it really was.

@stevencox9452 15 дней назад

I'm really impressed with that professional hospital bandage on your right hand. LOL

@vclamp 14 дней назад

You can use a smooth file or sandpaper to round over the wafer (tumbler) corners a bit to account for variable key cuts. The front two and back two in particular. The corner of the grooves in the cylinder can be scraped a bit to round them as well. Oh fun times! 🔑

@martinaudet7687 14 дней назад

In the end, if a rebuild kit was unavailable, I think you could have cleaned and rebuilt that ignition lock anyway. That would have also made a good video. I loved the part where the spring slipped into a parallel universe. My wife that that myself and springs are soon parted, and she right. I feel I have to have to remove springs in a hermetically sealed chamber in order not to lose them.

@jimmeade2976 15 дней назад

A locksmith would have charged $500 for that. And they wouldn't have fixed the knee bolster. Excellent repair by Ray.

@jimalcott760 14 дней назад

But would he have cleaned the dirty plastic in the car…?

@austynbeeching-smith7585 12 дней назад

❤

@ohiowrencher8650 15 дней назад

I have done this type of repair many ways.... fastest is to just buy new key and lock cylinder (if there is no key chip)... also to keep costs down for customer i have pulled the obstructing wafer (letting them know, of course).. i also have done what you did here... which is hard with large phillanges.. Nice video of something most techs dont do or see very often. Cheers!

@ragnarironspear1791 15 дней назад

Brilliant as always

@johnmarino4085 15 дней назад

Nicely done Ray !

@stevejones9044 15 дней назад

13:51 I believe the proper sound of the spring exiting the assembly was "beeeeuuuu!"

@richardjackson1397 15 дней назад

Very good I never wanted to tackle refining an ignition you made look easy 🎉

@MrGodfather367 14 дней назад

Great video! Your knowledge is very impressive!

@louislouis1066 15 дней назад

All your videos are interesting. This video is one of the most interesting one. In a few ways. Thank you for sharing.

@level1804 12 дней назад

I’ve only ever done a tumbler replacement once on a Ford. The barrel came generic with all the locking pins the same length, until you installed the key and filed down the pins flush with the barrel. Same basic technology and much easier to do than being a watch maker! OH, and I think Dave was on the other end of that screwdriver! 😅

@ZZZFest303 15 дней назад

Gotta love those extra screw bins. I've replaced the entire cylinder before and had to have different keys for the door and ignition, but I will definitely look for these rebuild kits from now on, if they're available.

@brianshopsky 13 дней назад

Good job Ray I learned something from you again

@brentgilmore3281 10 дней назад

Hey Ray!!!! 🎉 Take a vacation, you deserve it my friend. You and the little lady should visit Beautiful East Texas. Have a grand ole’ time and, well, since your hear, maybe fix a water leak on the back passenger door of my BMW 😊

@georgeholme612 15 дней назад

Fantastic job ray

@geraldharkness8830 15 дней назад

enjoyable video ray excellent!

@dagamer667 14 дней назад

I've dealt with a similar issue on my previous car, 03 Impala. Luckily, GM had the wisdom to make the key from softer metal than the lock cylinder. And that key was just a plain blade key. Once I got a freshly cut key, the sticking and jiggling went away after a few times. Usually the tip of the key wears out since it has to traverse every single tumbler on the way in and out.

@olivethrush7450 15 дней назад

One word. "Fascinating!" OK. Maybe two words? "Absolutely Fascinating!" My kind of show. Best from our little rock.

@billbrowse2553 14 дней назад

Great video🎶

@Augy.1 15 дней назад

Hey Ray, i really enjoyed this video!

@TXCherokee 15 дней назад

Great Job. Never seen a lock re keyed. Good job Ray😀

@CarlosLopez-o4t 14 дней назад

Man that sierra looks nice for the age, I wish I lived in a rust free state!

@aperson9495 15 дней назад

Those are actually called wafers, and your kit was complete - those keys only have four cut depths: 1-4. If you have a worn key that's causing binding, the best option is to have a new one cut from code. Any automotive locksmith could decode the bitting from the key and then cut a new one from that.

@scotts4125 15 дней назад

Sometimes the key is too worn to get the correct bitting. In my business as I have to provide a warranty, we usually get the key code. I only do lost keys so it's a bit different. We very rarely get called for duplicates and when we do there really isn't a price difference. I tell them it's cheaper to go to a brick and mortar instead of paying us a service call.

@user-pf2ke2zg7z 15 дней назад

Good job Ray 👏 nice to see you all your family mate 😮😅🎉😂

@golf25radioman 15 дней назад

I've never seen that procedure done before. It was a bit unnerving for me, but not for you - as usual. Nothing phases you it seems. Thanks for the excellent commentary on the procedure, I appreciate that a lot. Maybe a "simple" operation that I found interesting. Thanks for the Lauren/WifeUnit cameo, always nice to see your beautiful wife. 😊

@rotorhead1564 14 дней назад

You mean "faze."

@golf25radioman 14 дней назад

@@rotorhead1564 you are absolutely right. Don't know where my head was at! 😄

@jspoole52 13 дней назад

Great video, just learned how to rebuild ignition key lock

@brenttaylor1548 14 дней назад

Nice job ray and that's great going the the extra mile to fix that knee bolster, there are many folks in your field of expertise that would have just put that together and said oh well

@petestojanovich6498 15 дней назад

Great video!

@joerubi03 15 дней назад

Nice job. I didn’t know how those things were repaired, good knowledge to have on my part👍

@billbillinger2491 13 дней назад

Great tutorial!

@staalcyclesecurities1423 6 дней назад

As a locksmith and watching it after work i felt like i worked 9 hours. Losing that spring gave me ptsd flashbacks Ps. Please do a chevy 10 cut ignition. Those are fun.

@deangaryjames 15 дней назад

Great video, very clear instruction

@RogerFleury-rh9wr 15 дней назад

37th! Hope you’re having a great Saturday morning Ray,Lauren,Dave,and Justin? The newest employee? Roger in Pierre South Dakota

@valvegeek 14 дней назад

Fab. I've done same with a Ford - in that case they were called wafers and looked like round washers with a slot in the middle and tabs on the edge, worked the exact same. 😊👍❤

@mattsanguinetti812 15 дней назад

As a locksmith who used to work on cars, manufacturers have made it so difficult to work on them most locksmiths these days need a degree in computer sciences to work on them. There are guys who specialize in automotive work and make a pretty penny. Hat tip to you, sir, for doing this repair. It's not easy.

@scotts4125 15 дней назад

Yup I'm an automotive locksmith. We run 80 to 150 calls per week. Just lockouts and lost keys/fobs. We don't do any repairs. We have just about every programmer out there and many CNC milling key machines.

@InCountry6970 15 дней назад

Ray, I have done this very ignition re-key, but it was still fun to watch you do the repir

@Michael-yi4mc 15 дней назад

Sorry that you couldn’t use a lift to remind us to subscribe to the green button.

@Loneone1000 15 дней назад

Ray I like that Slow-Mo instead replays you been using!!!!!!😂

@rickbeaver195 12 дней назад

Ed Vance's guy here: Remember, the parts stores work for YOU. I've had many occasion to delivery credits to shops because of incorrect/damaged/opened box parts.

@grendel1960a 15 дней назад

now i know lock cylinders can be rebuilt, I always thought you had to get the cylinder with a new (very expensive) key.

@iancoombs4324 15 дней назад

great job ray

@richardmiller5238 15 дней назад

Interesting vid never seen a key tumbler rebuilt! 👌💯

@scottslattery5590 15 дней назад

Very interesting video ray!!! Thanks!

@lokigames5091 14 дней назад

I've replaced the lock cylinders before but I didn't know you could get rebuild kits , nice video Ray

@paulryan388 15 дней назад

Pretty cool video

@Mech7.3 14 дней назад

Awesome job Ray! Not too many mechanics do rekeying anymore. It brings back a lot of memories from my dealership days. Awesome job also on channel growth my dream someday is for my channel to grow like yours. Kuddos from Kansas!🇺🇸✌️

@ohiowrencher8650 15 дней назад

Dorman for the win is very rarely heard... Usually its "Well, its Dorman or OEM at 10 times the cost" :) Cheers!

@user-jm5gk5wc5q 14 дней назад

Nice work

@michaelpickett6573 14 дней назад

I didnt know they made a kit to do that great video now I know

@josephcaldwell9974 14 дней назад

I'm a locksmith in training learning from my parents and we pretty much do everything when it comes to locks and for sticky locks id start off with a silicone based lubricant we use houdini but if it was just sticking u prob could have gotten it free and working again without swaping out or repinning ignition but when repinning id suggest u take a bit of that grease and put a little in the spring holes and little where the wafers go that way once u put them in they won't fall out so u dont have to hold them in place

@bradmarcum2927 14 дней назад

Great video. Confident I could do this myself if need be. Thanks Ray

@TheOcculus 15 дней назад

I've had GM, Ford, Chrysler, AMC, Datsun, & VW ignition, glovebox, console, trunk, liftgate, and door cylinders apart. I haven't found any with more than four different wafer sizes. Somebody will come up with one that's got three, five, or six but all I've seen is four.

@bootinnj 15 дней назад

Great to see Lauren making her mandatory video appearance lmao great vid i've never done a rebuild before always just replaced it whole with new key but this was awesome thanks for sharing and being awesome. oh and hi Dave im sure hes somewhere in there!!