Crank no-start: Massey Ferguson Diesel 

Thanks for the Video. Very helpful and easy to follow . You just saved me a ton of time and money I knew nothing about . My tractor died 1/2 mile in the woods and I was able to get it going thanks to you !! Part is in order and I am sure I’ll be able to get it done . Thanks again for sharing your knowledge.

Great video. A friend called me with this problem and I told him that this is probably his problem. Then I found your video and sent it to him. Good video. Thank you for sharing it.

There needs to be one of you and Eric O in every town. The two best I've seen !

Good work Ivan. Even with the newer electronics covering basics pays off. Fuel supply always a good bet particularly on a diesel that has not been running regularly. keep up the good work and many thanks for the TRIPOD, has made the videos much more pleasurable to watch. Brian & Shotty

Well done Ivan! You are building an excellent reputation for debugging electrical problems on diesel farm tractors. You solved that starting problem with the Oliver 1600 earlier this year and now isolated the fuel control solenoid as the problem issue on the Massey Ferguson. A real challenge of your skills would be solving electrical and starting problems with John Deere diesel tractors made from 1958 through 1968. Those tractors used a 12 - 24 volt electrical system. While running the system operated on 12 volts but during cranking it used 24 volts at the starter. Those systems were trouble prone with lots of electrical gotchas!

That was impressive Ivan. You went right to that solenoid like you'd seen that problem a dozen times! Thanks for taking us along.

Good to have you back Ivan. I enjoyed the video, it was something different than normal.

I really don't know why I enjoyed this video so much. Thanks Ivan.

Brings new meaning to "working in the field."

As a camera man, you make a good mechanic.

I once took apart a start solenoid on an old outboard. Cleaned the contacts that were blackened from the juice/no juice routine and where I had drilled out the rivets, put some screws in there in place. It was working years later. Electricity takes it's toll sometimes too soon especially if the contacts are not stationary. Then even if they are then you have the corrosion issues to keep an eye out for. Again very enjoyable and great diagnosis Ivan !

Hey great job on breaking it down & finding the problem & the solution , I have a M-F 1526 ( 2018 ) but pretty much the same Iseki 3 cylinder diesel & she is a great compact tractor. I saw the tractor & said myself that looks similar to mine & that's why I watched the video , But I was impressed that it ran on only 2 cylinders . Thanks for the very informative video & maybe a future reference.

He mentioned starting fluid. To start some diesels after someone ran them out of fuel we would take a rag and pore gas into it, ring it out and then put the rag over the intake. When you cranked it, it would start but it would knock bad until it picked up the diesel! Thanks for the video.

Boy if I ever get a tractor I will need to learn a lot of stuff. Thanks Ivan good job buddy -John

Another cool tractor diagnosis Ivan thanks for the great video

Thanks Ivan, I've got a little 3 cylinder Iseki/Massey Ferguson. no real problems in 11 years.

Very fun video to watch. Again you have overabundance of common sense , combined with experience , and education, you figure things out quickly. Great job !

Excellent diagnostic Ivan. I have a similar tractor so I'll be keeping an eye on that one. Thanks and welcome home.

Great stuff Ivan it will take me months to watch all your videos , but I’m loving them all

Just give it a shot of the good stuff, according to Eric O. That'll fix anything. Damn good video Ivan!

E-I-E-I-O! To the Massey Ferguson we go! I like seeing this kind of stuff with the farm equipment since I work on this kinda stuff a lot. Thank

Great job Ivan , I also have a MF so this will come in handy down the line thanks ! BTW those engines are typically made by Iseki in Japan ,good engine.

nice troubleshooting ivan your very smart !

Sound like Kubota engine, sticky fuel solenoid... Cannon issue. Great diagnosis Ivan

Good job Ivan no parts required like always peace out

Nice one Ivan. It's amazing years ago it was just a lever for on/off. Not an expensive part . Cheers 👍👍

One Diesel engine I worked on had a system similar to that.Electric switch had to activate to let engine start,but the engine maker had thought of failure,put a screw in plunger on the pump.If the solenoid failed mech could turn the screw in try the engine.when engine started you knew what problem was.Only thing was the only way to shut engine off was to screw the little plunger back out,turning the on off switch off would not stop the engine.

Ahhh you got there eventually. Surprised you thought initially that the shut of coil would be energised with the key off. Imagine all those flat batteries on diesels if that was the case. ☺ Good logical thinking and testing got you through in the end and showed that with common sense you dont need to be experienced on a particular vehicle type to get the job done. Standard testing methods applies across the board and is all that is needed. Good job

I have the exact same tractor, year, and problem. Thanks for the video, I am going to try to fix it today.

Nice touch to have the horse in the back ground at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="724">12:04</a>. Looked like he was making an attempt to photo bomb.

NASA ... "We have a rocket ship over here that won't fire." Ivan ... "do you have a wire diagram ? " NASA... "Yes we do! " Ivan..." tell them to suit up and get there space icecream ready we are launching in 10!" Love it !

Well done Ivan! John Deere used a thermistor in their pull in circuit on the early 2000's compact utility tractors. They are soldered on a pigtail behind the fuse panel. Ask me how I know. If you run into one someday they are switched on the negative side. Keep the videos coming!

A push pull cable would solve that issue.Thank you Ken.

That's what Massey gets for replacing a mechanical plunger with an electrical one. That's the way of the 21st century - take a simple part or component of a system, then, add electronics to make it complicated, expensive, and failure prone. Keeps guys like us working, at least. :)

This could be my favorite video yet

Great stuff Ivan, you can turn your hand to anything

Love those tractor videos!!

i have the same tractor and problem, i will be checking this tomorrow

Great video. Thanks for posting that. much appreciated!

Thank you Ivan. Same problem with Massey ferguson 6028 ( new tractor) . We fix new solenoid valve, Tractor started, but we get another problem . Solenoid valve is heated and melts wiring

How did you get the solenoid off? I can't get my hand in there let only an allen wrench?

Good work Ivan!

brave man putting your finger into a diesel injector pump ! nice diagnosis

Customer had same problem with his john Deere power on would not engage solonoid to allow fuel to engine. Good indicator that this is your problem I know on john deeres when you are trying so start should be some black smoke out the exhaust none on this one replace the solonoid black smoke and fored up

well done you petrol heads struggle with diesel ,good diagnosis also often farms are not so careful about clean fuel and servicing so fuel blockage is a consideration

Best tractors made!!

The fuel solenoid should have power because in its default state it shuts the p pump off. In order to allow the pump to flow fuel to the injectors the “pull” terminal pulls the solenoid inwards, then the “hold” terminal keeps it pulled in and the timer tells a relay to shut off the power to the “pull” terminal. At least that’s how it works on a yanmar diesel so I’d figure most are the same. I have a Perkins 3 cylinder that is doing the same thing yours is, cranking but no start symptom and it’s all pointing to the fuel solenoid having no power to pull the rod in so the pump will feed the injectors instead of bypassing to the return line.

I remember Diesel cars having a fuel shut off solenoid back in the 90's. My old boss Had a Rover Diesel that wouldn't shut off as the valve was stuck in the on position. Had to bold it on the brake and let the clutch up to stop it until he got the new valve.

Great walk through

Nicely done Ivan, Cheers,

good work you have knowledge in DIESEL GREAT

This also my issue, bad solenoid, pulled it out and it started right up. But my issue is that even with the key off, the solenoid is hot to the touch, so its pulling juice whether the key is on or off, so my solenoid might still be good, if its not cooked, but what ever is providing it power is the issue. Just bought this tractor, Massey 1230.

Haha, well that was different! And yet, not! Just proof that if you have a solid foundation of troubleshooting skills, it doesn't matter what you're working on. :D

Just worked on my 1529 massy tractor . I just taped the high pressure plungers and it.released.

Nice one Ivan, what's next a steam engine, you could do a job swap with Keith Rucker, that would be a hoot.

Nice job Ivan

hi!! i got a MF1533 ANS I THINK I GOT THE SAME PROBLEM , NICE VIDEO ,ILL CHECK MINE THIS WEEK, NICE!!!

in case anyone else with this issue and a similar agco tractor like my 2006 challenger mt265b the part number is 6242128M1 and itll run about $253. theres also a gasket for it that cost me $11. there are similar ones on ebay for yanmar tractors for $18 but im not sure if they fit they just look similar in the photos. the bolts are 5mm hex wrench.

Same thing on a JD 2210 I’m working on.

Fuel selnoid coil needs to be on to get fuel,shuts off when there I low oil pessure. Just open fuel manually because the coils fail. First thing you check on all diesels and you don't need a wire diagram

Dont jab the wiring terminals with the test light, use a proper test lead. You'll stretch out the terminal and cause a wild good chase looking for the issue

Hello I'm wondering if you can give me the electric plan that you showed in the video? I think I have a bad starter and I want to see the circuit. Or at least tell me where to find that plan.

It's probably the cam position sensor if it's went bad it won't start

More videos! More weird stuff!

Branching out to some real vehicles! Nice fix

Job well done

Diesels all run and start by the same diagnostics. Too bad, today they are burdened by all of these electrical and electronic controls. Somebody told me a long time ago that diesel engines and electronics should never be together. Good diagnosis.

my new tractor had 148 hours on it, wouldn't start, pulled air filter, started right up, so ordered new air filter, feel like a dummy

What is the part number for this exact part? and where is the best place to find it?

Thanks for the video! I think I have the same issue. How did you remove the solenoid? I can not get mine off. Thanks

@motoYam82 well done

Don't do a continuity test. Use your volt meter.

Just worked on my

I'm having the same problem on my 2008 MF1533, looks to be the same set up. Problem is I cant find that solenoid online. Any suggestions? Thanks

That is a iseki tractor rebranded to massey ferguson

You can start now

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Amazing job ahaha i love it

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I thought Putin was going to keep you there to troubleshoot the limo.

Well I'll be darned, rearin chickens and ducks. growin some corn and raisin cattle, why are,nt you wearin your dungarees ?

Could that solenoid have a diaphragm that leaked, and contaminated the electric coil- or is the coil just weak? Could it be taken apart, cleaned out, resealed? If man has hard time locating the part- maybe try here- www.yesterdaystractors.com/

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You are lucky its not a common rail 😁😁

😍😍 he’s so handsome 👀🤤🤤😈

Old Russian technology!

that mf on the hood doesnt necessarily mean massy furgeson lol i once drove 50 miles on a no crank just to disengage a pto lever. smfh

you know with the load-pro I would have been done in 5 minutes on this job . load-pro test plush button no voltage drop in harness crack fuel Line on this old not New Diesel no fuel check for air leaks no leak your done! fuel shut solenoid fault .

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