10:48 - This bit where the eye moves to the next spot that the brain cuts out, that you talk about at this timestamp, is actually not only cut out but replaced by the "first frame" of the next thing you look at (after the fact). That's why it seems like the second hand takes an abnormally long time to move for the first time, every time you look at a clock. FYI. 😄
@@PunkMonster Actually I feel like I still see that sometimes, lol, I figured it was my eyes playing tricks on me and I just ignore it. I do understand that our 'live' vision/real-time experience is actually an aggregate of a short length of time during which our brain summarizes what it processed. As explained in a Veritasium video, this is also why when we see, for example, a basketball being bounced far away we hear the sound instantly instead of delayed, coz our brain just combined the two sensory inputs as they belong together, I think.
I think the reason why it took so long is because while movie projectors appeared out of nowhere, the movies themselves didn't - It seems like they evolved directly from theater spectacles. And therefore there was already this millenia-old practice of viewers being used to sitting at one place and watching things unfold from one perspective (and creators used to thinking that this is how things should be done). Really, that made me wonder how movies as a medium even became popular - theater had voice and way better visuals, and I'd presume that the novelty of a flat moving picture would wear off quickly.
Great point, I also thought about, imagine just how difficult it was to simply execute these first films, they must have been so busy figuring out those steps and putting them to practice, that these other layers of the mechanics of editing, only came after a while when these first film producers started wrapping their minds around the fundamental concepts and ultimately developing the subsequent logics of it all. About the interest in movie going, rather than theaters, I'd guess the possibilities with film were just enthralling, since you could never actually make a train run through the classic drama stage, neither reproduce so many things that can be done inside a studio. Cheers
West Virginia WILD this is literally what I took as a class. I wrote a 20 page paper about RU-vid being a new renaissance of editing like he just said in the beginning
this video is so important, cinema history is one of the best teachers! amazing work, really love your channel sven. creativity in teaching at its best. man with a movie camera is one of the films that showed me how powerful and transforming movies are. Dziga we love u.
Yes, as intimated early on, innovation is not just the equipment part of technology but also requires new ways of seeing how to apply that technology. All the pieces for rudimentary digital computers existed by the mid-1800s, but it took another 100 years to put them all together to get the first one we would recognize as a general purpose computer.
This is gold! Thank you so much guys for sharing all those information. As an animated show director, it helps so much pushing my work farther on the storyboard /editing process.
Great video, but I wouldn't label Griffith an innovator. Like you said, there's evidence that the techniques he was using were around before him, and for all we know guys like Billy Bitzer and James Smith could've been whispering in his ear a bit more than we give them credit for. But again, great vid, very insightful.
Stereo the one thing that gets lost is that so many people believe that Griffith “invented” continuity editing. That’s not the case. The majority of how many times he did it in his movies led more to Griffith being the one that perfected or “Pioneered” it. I just did a whole bunch of studying about Continuity editing for my thesis paper in class and I agree that there is a large misconception in that thought. Same as Eisenstein “inventing” Soviet Montage editing. He didn’t invent it but he perfected it in his movies as he tested it over and over and over. This is why Eisenstein just like Griffith has been labeled as the “Pioneer” of the Montage editing style of filmmaking.
hi guys I'm Tharun studying bachelor of visual arts in FILM EDITING at MGR FILM INSTITUTE in Chennai you guys are really doing an massive job keep on doing better videos. guys can u make an video on hacksaw ridge movie & a video on best movie's for editing.
You Bleeped the word "Damn". Seriously??? Also, can you please make your facebook group from Public to Private? I want to engage there a lot but don't want my engagement be seen by my friends. If it were closed group, it would be just great. Public group, not so much.
Hello, first time seeing your video. What about Walter Murch in your next video or Sergei Einstein first transition. I met with Thelma Shoonmaker and Anne Coates. They talked about their style of editing on how it separates from others. Just like how Shoonmaker makes Scorsese’s movies the same style of his. Quite cool how they explained it.
10:19 I don't totally agree with the point where he says that editing is understandable even by someone who grew in a cave without watching MTV videos. Even if in fact, it seems accurate. In the manner of when movies started to be shot in color, or when they started to have on-stage sound recorded with it, even when 3D started to be popular, at first a huge majority of the audience would not like the evolution of the technology, even if this is how it works in the real-life (colored, sound, 3d... it's the same). As for editing, it is something that people had to get used to before adopting it completely. I guess the Avengers would not have the same success back in 1903. ^^ 1901 The Big Swallow ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OyC7WXAkxx0.html Scared of not been understood by the audience, George Albert Smith introduced the Close Up by showing the boy looking through his grand ma's reading glass in 1900... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6ho05y9IMr4.html
This video would have been a lot better without so much time spent defending the 10,000hr theory of talent. Yes, the "Mozart just came out of the womb a genius," thing is probably wrong, but that doesn't mean you guys have figured out how Mozart got the ability to compose the music he did. Watch this: you say Mozart had this ability because he worked so hard by the time was 12. OK, then the burden of proof is on you. Can you show me that every child who's done that kind of work before 12 has gone on to be the same level of monumental genius as Mozart? Why is it that since Mozart- there have only been a handful of people who can be said to rival his genius? What? Only that many kids since then spent 10,000 hrs before they were 12? Maybe, but I doubt it. I'd guess there were a lot who did who went on to have nice careers as professional musicians that almost no one remembers.
Tyler, I love your reference to Plato. He might argue it's precisely because your audience spent time in a cave that some filmmaking techniques work on them. Dolly zoom for example. It might as well be shadows flickering on the cave wall for all they know...
Thanks so much, this video is so insightful if you love movies, I think people get too wrapped up in following the rules, when really its just about choosing whether to break them for certain effect.
You probably have the best ''video editing'' channel on RU-vid. I wonder why you're still at 172k followers. I'm a newbie and your channel is ''easy'' for my brain. Thank you!
Still love this channel after years. Another biological aspect is, when you shift your head, to look at something else, you blink. So that cuts out the unimportant, blurry information, too.
5:37 - _Nothing_ has changed, in terms of editing, from 1908 until now? Come on, be serious for a second. I actually went and watched "Rescued from an Eagle's Nest" again in its entirety to make sure I hadn't missed the entire corpus of hard-earned modern editing techniques showcased in a single 7-minute film from 1908. It does not contain the entirety of modern editing techniques, not even close.
The first motion picture camera was invented by Louis Le Prince a french man that lived in England. He demonstrated and patented his camera in 1888 but disappeared in 1890 mysteriously on his way to America to demonstrate his new invention
I have the feeling that modern editing and especially youtube editing is very manipulative and superficial and not try to meet the viewer on a respectful level. I wish editing nowdays would be more slow, mindful, trashy and honest.
Thanks for the great informative video! I'm just about to go back to editing a clip for a client - the video gave me a little motivational boost, so thanks for that!
Fantastic. Too short. :) would love a lecture that goes into depth. I do music and i find that these videos are at the perfect level. Well perhaps if this was a quick recap Of the lecture. Thank
You know, thirteen years to make the innovative leap to editing doesn't seem so bad when you realize it took 53 years after the invention of canned food before they invented the can opener. 53 years! Before that, you had to use a hammer and chisel. In that context, I'd say film advanced fairly quickly, historically speaking.
When you talk about understanding film editing through the way we naturally process information-does that mean that we not so much create but discover film grammar? I always assumed the former. Or is it simply a combination of both?
I think it's both, but mainly we stumble upon the grammar and that too is constantly evolving as the audience becomes more savvy with each new innovation, e.g. the constant jump cutting in vlogs is now becoming acceptable for mainstream media consumption. I would suspect that VR is finally going to start changing storytelling quite a bit.
This was awesome. I have really appreciated a number of your videos, but this is the one that's stirred me to comment. I've always loved movies and emerging mediums, but it's only recently that I've gone all in to make it my career and enjoyed finding my way down the path of 'film language' and the 'art' of editing! Love it. Thanks guys 😀🕺🏽🎥🏖🇦🇺
