Crazy Pieces Crazy Middles Moms Answer Questions About Exploitation | They Should NOT Have Done This 

Speaking from my experience, kids with a trauma background will often agree to anything. They want acceptance so much that they are super tuned in to what the other person wants from them. I once walked around a shop with my child who had a gift voucher, she kept asking ‘what do you want me to buy?’ Anytime she joins a new group she takes on the characteristics of the new group. I’m 100% sure that if she was fostered by a vlogging family, she’d let them film her regardless of what she really wanted. Her need for acceptance is what drives nearly all of her decision making.

The scary thing is that Crystal vlogged outside her daughter Halies work(large famous department store) , they filmed outside the building so viewers knew which one it was, they then drive to where she parked her car this is in the evening when it's dark outside and said "ohh you can tell its definitely her one because she has sparkles on her plate". So they have basically shown every sikko out there exactly where they can find their teen daughter and where she parks late at night and exactly how to distinguish her car from similar cars🤯 what is wrong with these people 😩 have some serious thought for your child's safety!!! Thankfully the daughter no longer works there or I would not be pointing out this online for strangers to attempt to find her. This is very dangerous behaviour from this family. They vlog outside the school building their children go to, they film on their street but think that by covering up the house number keeps them anonymous hides where they live 🤦🏻‍♀️. Super dangerous and no regard for the safety of the children in their care😢

I’m an adoptee & thank you for highlighting these ‘parents’ over sharing stories that they have NO right to Coercion is absolutely the right term. You hit the nail right on the head

I love this podcast . I have terminal cancer and watch from my bed every night . Just know your vids are not only entertaining but your goodness and positivity shine out xx

As an adopted person with trauma I agree wholeheartedly. Structure is so freeing. My weekdays are amazing and beautiful going to work planning to clean up then eating dinner showering and going to bed. I hate the weekends. If I have no plans and no one lined up to hangout with I lose my mind. Moving out on my own has been so hard but having a full time job and scheduled calls to family back home keeps me sane. I love the line of work I’m in which is why I stay where I am, but “free range” living/ parenting would never have worked for me. I become depressed and spiral. It brings back memories of neglect and abandonment. When I lived at home my parents always had a schedule for me to do and stay on track. Sometimes in the summer it would just be “go swimming @2:00” my mom would get home and ask how my swim was. Know that’s there was a plan and someone cared means more to me than anything. They would never leave me in my conflicts to just “figure it out” on my own. My mom asks me about my work drama today and she will PRY but I love that. If she thinks anything is happening we will be on the phone for hours discussing what happened how to approach what may happen and so much more. (I doubt anyone will read this much, but it just hurts to see this kids with similar backstories and the parents they get don’t care.) it’s hard to go from a neglectful environment to a chaotic one where even though you’re not technically neglected you’re not getting the attention you need.

Weston is an amazing person!! ran into him at his job, we had no idea where he worked, we just recognized him, he does love his family. his head is on straight...and he gave us a Hugh discount!!

I would love to see Jon Gosselin on your channel and hear his thoughts on child exploitation now that he can speak freely about it! He's been through alot trying to get his kids off of TV! That would be a great video!

Set aside the quality, insightful and hilarious content, it`s so refreshing watching reaction/commenting content on youTube these days, that has so few jump-cuts , mmm... also being like, literally free is a bonus 😃

As a child from a low income family, when we would go eat at restaurants I would always make sure I would get cheap food even though my family never said to. Twist that the other way. If you knew that your face on a camera made money for your family and for you to have nice things 💯 a child would. Sorry. You don’t have to outright say it. It’s implied. Especially when it comes to kids with trauma ( as I am one of them) you are always looking at your environment on a microscopic level so see if there is a threat. This is so sad.

You have truly opened my eyes to thus issue. I appreciate you and support all you are doing! Thank you.

I have two tween daughters and I struggle with them going out into the world… as they’re going to want to do more as they grow up. I worry a lot about who they may be exposed to. In a single crowd there are going to be evil people who would hurt them if given the chance. Imagining opening my home up, taking these people on an all-access tour into my girls lives, TERRIFIES ME. No amount of money would be worth the amount of anxiety I’d have and I would never put their safety in question that way. These mothers are either living in denial and have convinced themselves that it’s not unsafe what they are doing, or they are on heavy medication. Famous actors can make millions with a single photo of their child. But 99.9% of them fiercely fight against their kids being exposed in a public way. They go to court to protect their privacy. Anyone with two brain cells understands why. How do these Vlogs not see the dangers? Its scary.

Obsessed with your videos. Always have them playing in the background while I’m working!

Hit the nail on the head as usual, Josh!

I just started watching this and as an adoptive/foster mom I am appalled. How is this ok? My adoptive daughter will have the power to share her story because it is not my story to tell, if she choses to. Only 3 people know my daughters story and I am one of them, my mom and sister in law do too. I would not even share her last name because I don’t want anyone searching her bio family.

I love how she says “We don’t lie and hide things!” The whole time she is shaking her head YES!

Another fantastic video! You are doing great!!!

So happy to hear you talking about THEM it’s so wrong and I am happy to hear you and seeing you standing up to this type of exploitation! Love watching from Montreal

You're 100% spot on about structure for young people. Structure gives young people a sense of safety, predictability, responsibility, and confidence.

Been waiting for you to cover this!!!

This should be convincing @ The Crazy Moms 🙄 Love your videos! You're on point! 👍👍

I work with an amazing foster care company that works with traumatized children. They are amazing. No screens or imaging is allowed anywhere near these children for any reason. There is no seeking of permission because you will lose your job. No photographs are taken, no names are shared outside of the house. No stories are shared at all with anybody EVER. That is how we SERVE the orphans and children. You’re supposed to serve them, not exploit them and profit from their basic human needs and very existence. That’s more in alignment with the followers of Ba’Al and Moloch in the old testament of their “Bibles”.

I really Am looking forward to more kids speaking out about the exploitation they went thru, because I believe it will Help bring about the change we are all working for!!! 🌟

Dang this was So good dcp. So well put. I loved it. I hope it makes so many waves babe.

I completely agree with what you said about structure. I’m a teacher and a strict routine and structure is extremely beneficial for ALL children but especially children who’ve dealt with trauma.

I think the word you are looking for with "cloaked coercian" is simply manipulation. The manipulator doesn't necessarily need to be aware what they do is manipulative for the target to feel the effect. Like maybe they don't plan to manipulate kids onto camera but when they say "sorry can't hang out with you right now, Kid 18. I am busy making videos with the others". That kid gets left out and realizes the only way to be involved or get positive interactions with the foster parent is to do the videos, so they agree to it when they don't want to.

Josh: I don’t watch their videos.. Also Josh: literally watching and reacting to their videos. 🤣👏🏼👏🏼

As always. You nailed it. You are my favorite yt and TikTok, so glad I found you a few weeks back. I love the snark and info you give and I hope your videos force these moms to stop exploiting and making money off their babies and kids. Always look forward to your stuff! Can’t wait for more Maia knight content, she and her fans are nutty. Keep up the amazing work

Thank you Josh .... I agree with you . good video

Shelly's favorite is Lacey. She bought her a new car because she got pregnant. Lizzie graduated and got no car, she started working abd bought one herself. A used one at that.

Josh you're amazing at picking apart these people on the internet

Thank you Josh 😍

Yup bn watching u from start opened my eyes to the family vloggers ....I canny believe how much they make posting vids 😳

Shelly is an extremely strict parent to children who have trauma. I do not watch her videos. Crystal on the other hand acts like one of her kids

Oh, I watched this last night and spat coffee all over when I heard them say that they don't exploit their kids like some other large RU-vid family they met. Uhuh, pot, the kettle wants its black back please...

Crystal filmed the inside of Hannah's biological mom's house and the mom asked crystal not to film. He did not respect that and put the video out. Also she put Hannah's biological mom's information on the internet about her immigration status when I told her she should not be doing that because that puts her as a target for immigration. This was done back in December so you might want to go check that out.

I would crawl under a rock and hide if my parents had the audacity to tell the world about my traumatic medical history, sexual abuse, embarrassing moments, etc...

Oh my goodness Josh I can't 🤣 those grills.

Glad you’re looking into the Legal end. Something I would contribute to.. Wonder if parent alienation also applicable?

We need a Saccone-Joly update! 😁 Love your content and congrats on the success!

Idk why but I LOVE when Josh says he's 'Dad' in the intro. It's like top tier dad jokes.

So on the break…. There is so many rumors. They disappeared for like a MONTH. Moved back to their old house all the sudden, pulled all kids to homeschool - and ALL the kids 18 and up suddenly moved out without “Move Out” vlogs. It was VERY strange.

Looking so smart today, J! Also, keep doing what you do to save the poor children exploited by their so called parents! You are a God sent!❤❤

I would love to see a body language analyst sit with Josh and give their input on both of these moms’ stance, arm movements, and facial expressions during video. It would be very enlightening.

As a therapist, I feel confident saying that creating structure and predictability in the life of a child brings them comfort and strength and the ability to GROW. Not knowing what is going to happen next creates anxiety, stress, worry and fear. I spend so much of my work UNDOING the damage not having consistency in childhood creates for both kids and adults.

It's coercion; no matter if it's unintentional, there doesn't seem to be a label for it. Unless you're talking about emotional blackmail where you use guilt, obligation, or fear, this usually goes under the radar at first until you look back and realise it.

I 100% agree with your message about ending child exploitation and advocating for those families. It is hard for me to want to watch your videos, like, comment or subscribe as a form of support because of the comments that are just flat rude. Comments about appearance are specifically what I’m talking about. Again, I support your intended message but I would have all the respect for you if you stopped with the bullying like comments.

Your so funny 😂 I can wake up early and watch you and u have me rolling lol

The fact that their child have to tell them NOT to share certain things, is in itself the problem. Otherwise they would.

Uh-oh. It's always a big mistake when family vloggers try explaining how they aren't exploiting their kids. Lol! I'm so excited for this one! Even though I feel the same way about every video that comes out by Josh Lol! Lol.

On the last video I’ve watched like 1 or 2 years ago one of the children (Brinley) cried because she got hurt and they did not even realise it… they have way too much children to take care of them ! I’m adopted and I’m so glad that I went to a normal family ♥️

You are so right about the crazies channels. 👍🏾

Well said Josh!!!

I am in no way a perfect person or parent… I used to post my daughter FREQUENTLY on fb and ig when she was first born… but these types of videos opened my eyes to how wrong and risky that is and I chose to put my daughter and her safety and privacy above all else. My friends and family can see her but I no longer use her in any way financially, not even to show off items I make myself by hand. These pages are sick. These children cannot consent.

I love it when people who do the thing tell me I'm crazy to think they do the thing then try to explain how I'm mistaken and the thing isn't even a thing. When we all know (them included) they do do the thing more than anyone and the thing is bad.

Josh went there, and he said ALL the things that needed to be said...... damnnn! Josh went there!!!!! Thanks Josh!

Structure makes life predictable and less chaotic. Even the most stable of us thrive with it.

Channel growth is good for the cause. Congrats. Save the children of RU-vid!

I watched a video a while ago where they just adopted 2 kids. The girl said when she grew up she wanted to be in the medical field. Six months later they did another q and a and the girls wanted to be a you tube star and start a channel. It made me so said. This is not a career. They should not all want you tube channels and be famous. They think being on you tube will get them all this stuff yet none of them go to college or work a job

Keep doing what you’re doing!!! You are literally going to change RU-vid.

I know I’m late but the crazy sisters HELP 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

The family they're talking about is "Not Enough Nelsons". They conversation that went bad happened at a promo event they were both at that Great Wolf Lodge last spring, almost a year ago. Not Enough Nelsons rubbed most people the wrong way there. And thats not easy to do when youre surrounded by family vloggers!

Love you are doing this I have watched these families the craziest and have been very curious as well. Check out the one where Melinda broke off her engagement right before Christmas and crystal films her breaking down there are definitely favorites. I also have adopted children and have been a foster parent. Love your personality!!!

I love your intro so much

Josh you crack me up

I used to watch these channels when I was younger, and I remember one of them talking about how they pay their kids based on how often they appear in the video. If that isn't manipulation, then I don't know what is.

To begin with, love your channel, so eye-opening! I have a question, not regarding the video, but I would LOVE your opinion. You always say parents shouldn't share stories about their sick children, I have seen it as a way to help other parents know what to expect and how to cope with the situation in a better way, I am not a mother, but wish to be one someday. I am very interested in learning your insight on this topic. Keep up the good work!

like every video of urs i watch that u post

You're right, structure is so important.

Crazy Middles is actually a lot more conservative about what they put out than Crazy Pieces I feel like.

Crazy pieces OWN BIO DAUGHTER struggles so bad.. you can see the pain in her in every video UNLESS they’re buying her stuff. They don’t put enough effort in to her! Theses families BUY THESE CHILDREN!

You are HYSTERICAL!! 🤣🤣🤣

Congratulations on you ✅

Adoption trauma is SO real. You can try to glorify adoption but the trauma is there.

That video was so cringe worthy. They've obviously seen Josh's videos lately! As if they really think the public doesn't know they make their money off their kids! Or think because a young child wants to be in a video it's consent ( Even tho it's just the child most likely wanting parents attention, because I'm sure they all feel left out a lot with so many kids! ) unreal.

I understand you. I believe your words! You the best dad ever ! And your youtube family support you and are passionate with you about child exploitation

The toothy one said “lifes” and that drives me freaking crazy. It is LIVES!

the fact that they name the channels crazy whatevers is so very fitting

24:38 totally. I was in foster homes with only 8 kids maximum and so much crazy stuff happened that I probably wouldn’t have been exposed to if I didn’t end up there.

They decided to quarantine again after numbers went up in their area and a grand baby was born. All kids went to home school but recently ones who wanted to went back in person.

Lol I was trimming my split ends while watching this.

She’s nodding her head yes when she says “that’s exploiting kids and we doooo not do that”. Your body language is telling us you that you DO do that and you know it!

I wonder if they were referring to Not enough Nelson's because they did a video with them like 2 years ago.

You are so right about the things that go on in that house that we don’t know about. I worked at a childrens shelter. Some of them are reaaaaally traumatized in the worse way which causes some to mimic the abuse. I don’t watch them but I really hope these kids are well supervised.

for your 100k video you should do a lil dancing for old times sake!!! ~yeah baby~

Weston’s brother Spenser moved out recently . Lacy moved out as soon as she graduated and does RU-vid also-and then her sister Elizabeth also moved out to live with her Aunt when she graduated she said she is learning a lot of life skills that she didn’t know while living with Shelly & Jared. She shared that in a car video with Lacy. When Lacy first moved out they let one of the adopted sisters move out too Cynthia....she has since then moved back home they mentioned to focus more on school. I don’t get why you would let a minor move out that is still in school.......Lacy became pregnant, I don’t know if that had anything to do with it. Another adopted son Harlon is also moving out to live with his biological dad. Seems like a lot of children are ready to leave as soon as they can. There’s a lot that really bothers me with both family’s.....they have actually talked about kids with food hoarding tendency’s by name.....One in particular that Crystal mentioned was Brody .....just like you said: Kids are cruel in school. If something goes missing they may blame him or make fun of him. He is way to young to even understand the effects that this will have on him. I sure wouldn’t want anyone to no my past. It would be like reliving it over and over. They even talk about the kids showing up with their things in a garbage bag. They leave nothing for the imagination. You talked about the mental stuff that goes along with being in a family with so many children & lacking personal attention. Crystals biological daughter was away seeking help for depression and anxiety......she later did a video with her (Hailie) about the experience. When you watch the videos you can see how distant some of the children are. Kids dancing on Q’ is definitely planned. I thought Mormons dress attire was suppose to be very modest. Crystals girls wear very (EXTREMELY) short shorts. Last few videos I watched really bothered me the Disney trip.....and one trip to the dentist the T-Shirt was longer than shorts looked like she was in panties. They wear belly shirts and form fitting everything. There are so many sick twisted people watching that could pose a danger. When they were living in Saint Johns they had to call the cops several times because of trespassers. I’m glad that you are making them aware of what they are doing, especially since you shared Westons post.....I felt sorry for him wishing that he hadn’t made the videos... I watched them drink the nasty food mix drinks and other crazy challenges that they had the kids to do to probably drive up views. These kids don’t want to say no to their adopted parents. They’ve come from trauma so they try to avoid all conflict. It is very sad.🥲

The terms you're looking for are undue influence, duress, and influence by power differential. Children don't know what options they have if they aren't explicitly explained to them. Even when things are explained, they cannot make a sound decision because they're still developing their personality

You are definitely NOT missing anything- there is NEVER a good reason to exploit a child, PERIOD. Your work is SO important & I respect you greatly for it. You certainly have opened my eyes & I honestly am a little embarrassed that I didn't realize the exploitation that was happening before you came along. I hope your followers STOP watching any kind of family vlogging content in support of your message & work. I only watched Fathering Autism, but once you opened my eyes, I unsubscribed & have never watched them again. They now make my skin crawl because I see how absolutely disgusting they are. Thank you SO much for your content. Your time & efforts are recognized & greatly appreciated! 💕 from Oregon

You're 100 percent accurate on your assessment.

when I first started watching the crazy pieces they use to pay their kids for being in the videos, the more they were in the more they got!!!!!! she did a video on it.

Many people miss the fact, or just plain don’t understand that just because you have consent, doesn’t mean it’s INFORMED consent.

Looking spiffy today, Josh! 👔

I was wondering why all the, older kids from both homes, decided not to go to school? Now I know why!!

What really disgusts me is Crystal encouraging her 19 year old son to get married to a girl he just met.

The children who moved out with bio family it wasn’t the one they were removed from but other bio family members. Like older siblings, aunts/uncles etc. But all who have moved out did it at 18 so they didn’t need permission.

Weston thank you for stepping up and protecting your son. Also thank you for sharing your story as a warning so hopefully others don’t repeat these behaviors.

their shit is falling apart. love this video

Crystal drives me crazier than her sister. Her sister seems to now realize how awful the show is for her family, and is delcreasing their on screen time.

At about 11min you talked about when they move out and deal with their trauma. This literally happened in crazy middles… the 17 year old moved out and decided to move back in with her parents because she wasn’t doing well

I'm thrilled that you came up on my "for you" page. I watch both of these channels and there are SOOOO many things I would like to say. I truly wish ALL the viewers out there would watch your channel, especially, this particular video. There are plenty of those viewers who are extremely naive when it comes to these family channels. Most people take the videos as WOW, these families are incredibly loving, get along so well, they're ALWAYS smiling, etc... I'm sure the majority has no idea that Melinda & Isaac got married several months ago & got divorced shortly thereafter. Crystal didn't want to taint her "perfect family" image, so she made sure there weren't any signs of the wedding on the internet. However, one of the kids ( I won't say who.) videoed it and posted it on Instagram. Once, Crystal found out she had it removed instantly. Anyways, I appreciate you for specifically bringing these 2 channels to the forefront. P.S. Do you know anything about April and Davey's channel? I hope nothing bad because I absolutely love love love their family. 😊

One thing that bothers me greatly is the fact that the parents are encouraging the kids to start their own YT, instead of getting an actual education or learning a skill.. Alex getting engaged with nothing more than a HS graduation is alarming. No job. No education. What in the world?! So irresponsible.