Crazy Middles Randomly Drug Test Their Kids | Insane Rules | A Family Or An Institution? WOW 

Imagine if one of the kids had mental issues like depression... being told to always be in a good mood and be positive is sooooo damaging

The more rules I hear, the more I understand why their production company didn't want them to share the rule book

This feels like an employee training video you'd see during orientation as a new Crazy Middles kid.

It is interesting that you called this an “institution”. I am a nurse that worked in an adolescent residential treatment center. Many of the rules they use in this family were also used on our unit. It is no wonder the production company did not want them to divulge that information.

My siblings an I had a rule growing up and it was 'What happens when Mom and Dad are out stay's with us and they will never know' and we always kept to it.

All these rules seem to say is "Be perfect." Which is extremely damaging on a child's psyche. "Don't think, don't feel, do things better than even we do, at all times" are not rules, they're abusive mindsets on already traumatized kids.

As a kids who grew up with ADHD, this system would have killed me. Sometimes, even as a adult, my very best is not as good as someone elses meh. I seriously hope none of those kids need the extra help because they seem like the people who would dismiss it and say "just do better."

Sorry but humans have a “bad” attitude sometimes. That’s part of being a human. This is scary levels of control and toxic positivity

Rule #1: Your feelings are not valid.

I had a camp counselor who would say “there is one rule: be respectful” Then you can break it down: hitting isn’t respecting others, vandalizing isn’t respecting your environment, etc. I know some kids need more concrete rules than simply “be respectful” but I do think that these rules show how they parent: one size fits all.

I'm a former foster youth and adopted at 14. These rules are so reasonable and I would argue that you need some education on boundaries with kids from trauma and how they thrive with clear boundaries. It actually makes them feel safe. They do the drug testing because most foster/adopted kids struggle with addiction. Like I said you need an education about parenting foster/adopted kids. I'm not saying you're not entitled to your opinion. You are but please come to an informed conclusion.

I tell my kids to use “my parents randomly drug test” (we don’t actually drug test them) to get out of tough situations if they need to. That way the blame is on us. My oldest only had to use it once and she thanked me that she had an out. They didn’t pressure anymore. That was also the last time she hung out with them. I agree actually drug testing them is a lack of trust. I believe communication and trust is key. I was a teen mom and my oldest I had at 18 is now almost 21 with no kids of her own. We talk about the hard things and we allow them to tell us their feelings and what is going on.

the production company was trying to save them obviously because this is sick! I am 32 and never been drug tested if my parents pulled that crap on me when I was in HS I would resent them for the rest of my life. If your child is not on drugs - (which I think now a days with what drugs are popular you would very obviously know) you have no right testing them at all. If your child is or was an addict have them in an outpatient program and have them in therapy where maybe they can do more than just drug test. Addiction is an actual issue that needs to be approached as a tragedy not something that the kid is now a "bad kid" and deserves punishment he needs help and empathy. There is a reason they are doing drugs and for this household I can show you where the issue is by these rules. I think this is abuse and think the kids would be better somewhere else.

It is interesting when you called this an “institution”. I am a nurse and worked in an adolescent residential treatment center. These kids were in there for all different reasons including behavioral and psychiatric diagnoses. A lot of the rules in this family are similar to those we used on the unit. I can see why their production company did not want them to divulge the information regarding the rule book.

The grade thing - it shouldn't be good grades get rewarded it should be about them doing their best and trying... Some kids will spend hours studying and still only get a C... That should be rewarded even if they seem bad compared to other kids

One of the adopted boys was kicked out of the home because he broke one of the rules from that rule book.. he was kicked out and sent to live with a family friend I think. They then shortly after moved out of the valley, like 5 hours away. Essentially abandoning and disowning their son. This has been a few years now and they rarely speak of him or visit him, unless they can use his medical issues for content…

Therapist here. Adoption is trauma in and of itself, and adopted kids usually also have co-occurring trauma of some sort as well… the victim blaming language is so fucking alarming. These kids are gonna internalize that into stuff like “if I had had a better attitude maybe [first family] wouldn’t have given me away”. This is awful and I’m like barely into the vid at all yet

I was raised in an abusive home and didn’t bat an eye when hearing about all their rules. That is normal for me. Thank you Josh you gave me something to think about.

I wonder what rules they are not telling us.

How the hell do they have time to get 24 people showered and ready for bed by 7pm every night?? How many bathrooms do they have??

I'm proud someone is covering this family. I've watched this family since I was 18. I wanted to be apart of this family and to get away from my own toxic family. Now that I'm 24 I've come to see the true hidden toxicity in this family as I've gotten older. I feel something is odd with the 3 eldest boys. It's as if they got the boot as soon as they left home. The girls that have left home are still filmed here and there often. What gets me tho is they claim the kids don't have to be in camera but as soon as these boys left which are in their 20's now the filming ceased with them except a cameo here and there. The sister lacey even said on her own channel that one of the boys Cody did not like to be on camera yet he was featured very often when he lived at home with the crazy middles. Also I was signed up for some app a year or so ago that was a few dollars a month for exclusive videos and what not of the crazy middles and pieces. They didn't uploaded anything for almost a year and my account was still being charged so I canceled it. They now have a new app I believe but I was just wondering if that happened to anyone else.

My mom gave me two mental health days a year when I was in high school in the early 1990’s, and I did it for my son who will be 22 years old tomorrow.

Here’s a little explanation on the drug testing: Most of their kids are with them due to drug abuse, this rule book was mainly in place for their foster children. They want to incentivize them staying away from drugs, so that’s why they said this. They only test if they feel there is a need, if they are worried about one of them using drugs, not a all the time thing. The clip of Lacey, at the doctor, was because people at her school were bullying her, and saying that her and her boyfriend were doing drugs, so she wanted to publicly put it out there, and get a test done professionally, to shut them up.

The Crazy Pieces mom has been clear that they don't have the kids babysit each other because they are aware of the risk of "parentifying" that foster/adopted kids have likely experienced in their past. I don't watch enough to know if this is true of them, but I think that's great that they're aware of it. Clearly the Middles are not aware of it. While both families are nuts and shouldn't have youtube channels, I'd rather be in the Pieces household than the Middles if I had to choose! This mom just scares me.

One of the strangest things about this family is how the kids act like everything is super great, but move out very quickly, once they turn 18. I mean, I’m sure they want more freedom and privacy, but the kids would NEVER say anything about that on their videos.

My husband and I were just talking about how some of the craziest kids in highschool were the ones with the strictest parents. My parents were pretty lax with me in the sense that I could go hang out with friends whenever I wanted as long as it didn't interfere with family events, my grades were good, I made it to all my hockey practices and games on time, and I let them know who, where, and until when I was hanging out.

This is so disturbing. These parents seem creepy. This definitely does not seem like a loving family. I agree 100%, it's run like a group home of some sort. Among many things, I feel really bad that they are expected to keep track of their own activities, honestly if my daughter misses something or was late because I mixed up the time or day or whatever I feel like such a failure because it's my job to keep track of those things. I would never put that on my kid. It's part of being a parent. Seems like they're lazy. This is going to really haunt me, something is just really off here.

When you put so many rules on kids they learn how to be sneaky n lie! Factsssss! No one will tell me differently !

I'm actually shocked that their #1. Rule wasn't _"The Golden Rule."_ That was huge in my family growing up... but whatever. They have *very* strange rules.

The parents ALWAYS run errands together. Neither can do anything as simple as going to the grocery store without the other. It is so strange. They often leave the kids home with the older kids in charge.

I still have to remind my husband to remind me to remind him to do shit. So...

That kid got so much joy ripping the pillows off the couch..probably cuz they aren’t aloud to act like kids…

The parents leave ALL OF THE TIME. And out of town at that. She is very codependent in him, and can’t be left alone. They always “say” that someone is watching the kids while they are gone, but it’s doubtful since the kids usually vlog and you don’t see anybody different. His mother did live near them - as did her sister (Crazy Pieces) and they have an adult married daughter that lives on an adjacent property (to the house they just moved from), however it looks like the kids are often left alone - and it’s good that their kids seem to be really good kids - otherwise there would be issues.

So... they are basically raising compliant little robots. This makes me sick.

This reminds me of some of my childhood... I had so many rules and expectations. I had to cook, clean, etc. taking care of my parents and my two brothers and make good grades. Never got to do much of anything fun. I was an adult starting at the age of 6 . I wonder what “consequences” are too... mine was ... let’s just say I couldn’t sit down bc of pain and had to skip school. Now that I’m a mom , I could NEVER do things like that to my children.

Josh, I have to say that you are opening my eyes to all of these families. I was a big fan of Crazy Pieces until you did that video on them and even though I didn't completely stop watching but I am noticing that some of the things that they are sharing are absolutely ridiculously private for the kids! They just shared a very private and personal diagnosis that one of the teenage girls has publicly without her consent the other day and I was like, "Dang! That's messed up!"

She talks to her kids like she’s a boss talking to employees.. they do not seem loving or parent that have any connection besides running a small business

The rules are crazy but I can imagine it is hard to raise that many foster kids..... it’s hard to have even just 1 foster kid

My mom was one of many foster children on a farm. All the other foster children were boys and she said they were there to help out on the farm. She was made to feel that she should be thankful that they took her in. This video reminded me of what she went through. This is so sad.

Thank you Josh for all you do ! Especially showing having 20 to 100 kids like you said you can't parent property! 100% agree and the fact these people get free labor for adopting kids is so wrong!!! I am a subscriber to you're channel and finally to have a voice that gets it is Amazing thank you once again for showing us the unsaid part that no one wants to talk about you sir are my hero !!! Because I have been through what you talk about!! You're a good father and a good soul to show these things!!!😁😁😁❤

I have watched this channel before . The babysitting rule has always bothered mel. You have 21 kids.. you CANNOT go anywhere.. you CANNOT ask the older adopted kids to help you.

These people aren’t leaving room for any normal emotion. They’re essentially saying if the kids have an emotion that isn’t happiness, they will be penalized for that. And that just seems like a horrible environment to raise kids in. Also the way they refer to themselves as “adults”, rather than mom and dad(or their names) just adds to the fact that it’s so impersonal. This is actually really disturbing and also gives me a really bad vibe and the fact that they think this is normal…

Don’t forget 10% of all money made goes to the LDS church.

They did kick one of their kids out of the house to live with a family member. It’s unclear what he did to get kicked out but kids who have gone through trauma act out there has to be a better way then kicking them out.

I’m a foster adoptive mom in Mesa Arizona. We have adopted 3 through the foster care system. When we got licensed 5 years ago the rule was “8 is enough” Our agency would not let you foster more than 5 and would not let you have more than 8 kids in your home. Can be a combination of foster, bio, and adopted. There are many different agencies. Different agencies have different rules. There can be a way around this. Some agencies only limit the number of fosters than once they are adopted the number doesn’t go against you for future placements. The state does have rules about how many kids per bedroom, bathrooms etc. So if you really want that many you had better have the space. Totally agree that this home is run like a group home not a family, kinda sad.

This really feels more like a group home or something than being a member of a family. I feel like these rules would make kids so afraid to make a mistake that they would live in fear everyday and that’s not how it should be. Sure, we don’t *want* kids to make mistakes but it’s a part of growing and learning. You make mistakes, you grow from it and learn not to make that mistake again. I don’t like how there’s no room for failure. Everybody needs to go through failure to learn how to cope with it. The thing about perfect attendance and whatever is very ableist. They forget that disabilities exist especially in adopted kids where they could be dealing with trauma or other mental illness or developmental disabilities. Mental health days should be encouraged as you mentioned. That’s how you prevent burn out! All I can say is I am damn glad I didn’t grow up in this family 😬

Their rules are looney tunes and definitely give a group home vibe. That said, I do think a written rule list can be particularly helpful for children in foster care bouncing through many different houses. Written established rules probably take the guess work out of adjusting to a new family and create comfort and relief for the child especially for older children.

A synopsis of their rules: "don't show any age appropriate or human emotion, don't make human mistakes or you will be punished." That's so effed up. I think these parents get off on control. They creep me out. I wonder what's going on behind the scenes, I'm getting alert! Alert! Vibes.

They also exploit their oldest kid that moved out.. she ain’t married and barely started dating her boyfriend, and now she’s knocked up… they make videos over her pregnancy

Children can’t do all that. I wonder if this “rule” thing causes stress and or anxiety. Especially when most have been through so much trauma.

They had 2 of their daughters move out I know one is 19 not sure how old Cynthia is. But Cynthia moved back home and on mothers day the one that didn't move backed home, the 19 yr old, surprised her mom with a card that had a positive pregnancy test in it. I guess her boyfriend moved in with the 2 sisters when it was just suppose to be the 2 girls. I honestly didn't think the parents would be as excited as they were.

They get better presents for Christmas for kids with “good behavior.” So sad.

I understand how u think drug testing is bad in this situation but I was in homes with 4-6 kids .I think we should have all gotten drug tested randomly 50$ would have kept me sober n out of trouble. 90% of foster teens do drugs in my experience. That's actually awsome of them to pay 50$ to stay sober . But yes 19 kids is way to much

Something I’ve noticed in multiple videos is the kids faces in the background of when a parent is explaining a video then pan the camera onto the kids sitting at the table, their faces change. It’s like they’re forced to act a certain way for the camera and didn’t know they could be seen in the background then they get the cue to start acting and they’re all smiles! It’s scary. Sure they seem like a sweet family but it’s very institutionalized 100%

I’ve been through the foster care system and lived at 2 different group homes and those group homes were less institutionalized and treated us more like people than these guys!

If I was a kid in this family, I'd run FAR away.

I am a foster mom. We do have a welcome book which includes ONE page of rules. These rules are things like no drugs in the home, no violence, curfew. It is also filled with a general daily schedule (breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks and bedtimes) as well as an "about me" for every person already in the home or people they will encounter often. We also have a map of the house so they know where things are, like the bathroom! We do add some rules occasionally, some are per child based on their behaviors and needs. We do not do random drug tests. We do not expect every child in our home to have straight A's or B's, we do expect every child to do their best though (If my 11 year old who already has a college scholarship were to bring home all D's and F's then I would be upset but mostly concerned and seek the additional help she needs).

I really don't like grades rule. It isn't the rule itself that bothers me, for a normal small family I think it's fine. My problem is the mother saying they expect self sufficiency and aren't going to ask about their homework. That just rubs me really wrong, there are 20+ kids there with trauma and likely delays. These parents just said they expect these kids kids to keep up on it and come to them if they struggle instead of being a parent.

I can barely keep track of my schedule half the time. I doubt their little kids can keep track of all their activities. I used to watch them all the time but watching you break this video down made me realize how sketchy their rules are.

In my opinion. Crazy pieces has a lot of kids but acts like a normal family and treats all children like their own. Crazy middles seem like good people and kids do seem happy but I get group home vibes more then a family. These rules did run me the wrong way and don’t seem possible in my house lol.

All house holds have rules and rules some times brings kids stability that they need. Unfortunately having rules about high achievement can make a child feel inadequate leaving them with low self-esteem. 21 children is a joke. You can't give the attention to these children that need it more then most. Amazing video as always. I thank you for always giving us great information ❤️

This sounds EXACTLY like the rules of my narcissistic and abusive mother and step-father! I am 43 and still have issues from how my siblings and I were raised.

I come from a family of ten. I was a forgotten child. My parents were emotionally immature and verbally abusive. And there is no way, if you have that many kids, can you love and have intimate known moments with every kid. My mom doesn’t even know the first thing about me !! Kids deserve better.

Okay... I'm listening to this and I am cringing. I have worked as a domestic, and I am now a professional Dominant. In both cases, we have books with regard to attitude and behavior and these rules sound exactly the same. It's creepy that someone has put this together for kids.

Can you imagine getting adopted and they're like "let's sit down and watch this video real quick" and they show them this LOL

So interesting to hear about your boys and the Canadian system helping them! I never knew any of that and it's amazing to know they have so much on their side! Also, 21 kids is way too flipping many. I have 5 and that's pushing it as a single mom. My mother is second youngest of 8 and got no attention as a child and has no relationship with any of her siblings anymore.

Oh dear this is just horrible! The mom gives me the creeps and seems cold compared to her sister in The Crazy Pieces!! I can tell you one thing you can’t just go to the doctors office and ask for a drug test on your child in my country! The chores are crazy, when I watched them I never saw the parents clean up ever! Someone said there are cameras in Crazy Middles kids rooms and other areas of the house to keep track of their chores in the new house 😳….

They put their secret code for wanting to come home ON THE INTERNET.

This is the family that "kicked out" one of their own adopted kids or whatever. They actually sent him away instead of addressing any issues.

I have ADHD , auditory prossesing disorder, and dislexia. I am outraged that this family expects none of these kids to have a learning disability. The percentage of kids who have learning disabilitys in a group varies according to age but in all of the age groups more than 1 in 20 kids have a learning disabilitys.

Apparently they don't think that they're God did it right with only 10 rules. They must have 16 pages of rules to ensure the children always fail and there's always something for which to punish them.

The 18 y/o has known the the father of her baby for years. They used to go to school together. You can at least get your facts straight.

I also have watched a lot of the vlogs where the parents choose to go out and run errands together, leaving the older kids to babysit. It wasn’t occasional, but very often. It was weird to me that they wouldn’t leave a parent home to take care of the younger children.

And these are the kids that are going to rebel hardcore when they are free of the 17 page rule book. Making mistakes is completely normal and healthy during childhood. Expecting perfection is actually hurting them in the long run. Good luck with that! ✌

There is a family in England with 22 children who have a RU-vid channel, and they honestly have restored faith in me that some parents can have a lot of children and really can take care of each and everyone one of them so well. They are such a lovely family, personally I think they put some of these large American families to shame

"You do not have to join the church but we expect you to go every week without complaining." Coming from someone who was a forced to go to church every weekend even on vacation (I only got out of it if i was sick or had a migraine) and attended Catholic school until college, this is so toxic. I love my parents but I feel like i was never given a choice in my faith. I made it clear to them that i didn't want to belong to a faith that would not accept my identity as a member of the lgbtq community and whose doctrines i was opposed to. Now it wasn't like i became an atheist, i just said i wanted to step away and explore more affirming denominations, and honestly I needed a break from organized religion. They understood my reasoning but they said "You can still watch(covid times meant online mass)/attend mass with us and respect it and have that spiritual experience." like... no, that's what i want to get away from, I have no respect for it anymore and expecting me to still attend and not complain about being forced to be part of a faith that doesn't accept me is not the "compromise" you think it is.

The perfect attendance rule got me. My parents always made space for us to have mental health days growing up. Kids are human and we all struggle now and again. We all have bad days. It’s sad that these parents can’t leave room for their kids to be “imperfect” without being punished. Sometimes, I didn’t even recognized myself needing a mental health day and my mom would be the one to say hey, I think you should stay home from school today. Granted, my mom did work from home for many years so we were very lucky. I get that this isn’t possible for everyone. But if is, you should allow it.

You are 100% right about trauma. My children come from trauma and they would never get the privileges in that family. It's way too institutionalized

The house should be cleaner than before the parents left?!?! That is really off..

I personally have no issue with the drug test rule. The kids do come from trauma and drugs could be tempting. It is very easy for teenagers to hide things like that, I would imagine much easier in the earlier stages of drug use. Random testing would catch any issues early on so they could get help and ensure their kids stay drug free. If the kids turn to drugs after all that trauma, it could lead to life long addiction and issues. So i think it is a good thing that they are trying so hard to make sure the kids stay drug free. So much better than parents who are clueless and their kids are on drugs all the time and addicts by the time they are 18. I agree some of the rules are extreme, but it does seem to work for them. The kids seem well adjusted (from what we can see obviously). And also, they do not have 21 kids living with them. Some are adults and have moved out. I totally understand your point that family vloggers exploit their kids and that they are sharing trauma that isn't theirs to share. I have watched the crazy middles and I know their rules seemed like a bit much, but they do seem to do a good job with the kid and do share the positives of adopting sibling groups. It is tragic that so many siblings get split up in foster care. They do a great thing. I do think their flaw is the family vlogging, but like you said, this is better than the foster care system. And they are making it work to adopt and keep many sibling groups together. Is it perfect? No. Do they do unethical things.. yes...

So I am torn. If the children are coming from trauma and have behavioral issues, having clear written rules, expectations, boundaries and routine is sometimes recommended by psychologist. They also even recommended having a “contract” But with my daughter, this was all done as a family with the psychologist during one of the family sessions. Everyone had input. This family, it seems excessive, and doesn’t seem like the children had any say or input. It also doesn’t allow for children to express their true emotions. That they are to just be happy or only show happy.

My problem with this is not the rules themselves (sort of) but the number. I have always had rules and they changed as the kids got older. I fostered for years, mainly teenage girls as there is a serious lack of places for them in my area. They had to abide by the rules too and in the early days, they were different as I started fostering when my first boilogical child was only 2. Give kids more than a handful of rules and they are going to forget, setting them up for failure in my opinion. My philosophy, keep it simple, keep it sort. Be kind, be tidy, be on time etc etc. I have 1 comment/question here, who allows 19 (?) adopted kids in one house, maybe the UK is different but that not how it works over here.

I had chores, responsibilities and essentially no rules growing up. The only major rule was more of a suggestion and it was to not burn the house down.

I've watched this channel for years and haven't seen this video. Thank you for informing us about the reality of what it was like at least at the beginning as it's very different to what they say now.

Kid's rule: You should know what all kids are doing at all times; parents: they do random drug tests

Every child is so different. The fact that they don’t remind 5 year olds of the time is mind boggling.... It’s like they want the kids to be in bed at 7am to not parent them...

The mom once said that for Christmas she will evaluate how the child has done throughout the year and if you didn't do great she will reduce the quality of your presents compared to the other children. Total bullshit in my mind!

My hubby is 60 and still only listens to Half of what I say. I fostered for 14 years. I really don’t have issues with most of these rules. They are a Glorified Group Home w/o the Licensing. The problem is that Arizona DCPS allows them to adopt this many kids. The pregnant girl is now content for them. Ratting out each other is probably a Mormon thing.

I find this video fascinating. I interpreted their rules in a completely different way from him. I wonder if this is because of how each of us was raised, our social or economic backgrounds, or other such "inputs."

I am surprised that the government would allowed so many kids.

This really does sound incredibly institutional. I have lived in multiple rehabs, shelters, and currently a sober living/halfway house and so many of these rules are ones I’m familiar with. And that’s all well and fine…IN LITERAL INSTITUTIONS!! there’s a huge difference between a loving home and an INSTITUTION lol this is just wild to me!

I totally agree, you’re very correct. I grew up as a ward of the court/state/foster kid in Los Angeles county and juvenile detention. I am now a social worker/therapist with BA and a Master’s degree. People who grew up in the system often lack the ability to critically think because they haven’t been dealt with with one on one, rules like this are perfect for jail/prison though. Lol.

I’ve never adopted or fostered a child, but it seems to me like if you’re only doing it with 20 pages of rules and regulations then maybe your heart isn’t as open to children as you think it is. If you’re only here to love “perfect” kids, then maybe you should reevaluate.

I'm a mom of 4 and I cannot say that I know what my kids are doing every second. They have 20 however many kids? Yeah. I don't think they follow that rule lol

The fact that they treat each kid different based on their grades alone just disgusts me. For me personally, I struggled horribly in school due to ADHD and severe anxiety disorder. My grades were never good, but I passed everything to the best of my ability. My mother was understanding and kind enough to know that it was beyond my control, so she never punished me or treated me differently for not getting good grades. She was proud of me for passing and doing my best. I couldn't even imagine if my brother was given heaps of rewards for good grades while I was left feeling like garbage for my inability to focus and retain information.

How Josh looks when he says it’s gonna be a short video: 🤡 😂😂😂😂 Honestly I love longer videos

I’m a full grown adult and halfway through the video I’ve already forgotten half the rules 😂 like damn.

Imagine telling those kids " just wake up with a good attitude". To me it seems very unrespectful. Those kids coming from problematic issues and trauma have the right to feel and express their emotions, especially the bad ones, without a stupid rule telling them to be happy. They are supposed to be parents and a parent understands you and tries to figure out how to help you going through your issues. So sad for those kids.

I don't know how the laws/rules are done in Canada but as a foster parent myself in the United States, when a person is going through classes to become licensed to do foster care, the instructors actually make each person come up with a rule sheet and contract for the children coming into their home. When going through classes and choosing a licensing agency, the licensing agency will actually have the person turn in a copy of their rule sheet and contract which the licensing agency will make a binder with and keep on hand. When children are being transported to be placed in home, the children will be able to look through the binder, over the rules, contract, also if The foster parent chooses to add a letter they may have composed introducing themselves and pictures of their existing family/placements. It's actually recommended and sometimes enforced by certain licensing agencies to do this and have these things on hand. Not uncommon at all and not an institution.

See how these kids turn out !!! Sad .... hence why the teenager is knocked up after dating someone after 2 months !!! The Stricker the parent, the kids break out & reek havoc!! My kids have rules, but we're a home, not a freakin military camp !! This is absolutely crazyyyy!! My Grandmother was awful strict & the kids from her second marriage turned 18, went wild, drugs, knocked up by 5 different guys & more crap !! & they say their childhood was awful !! They couldn't do anything .. They set so many rules & set them up to fail ....