Crime Beat: The Tiny Town Mystery | S5 E10 

The way this mother was treated by authorities is appalling - they all should be ashamed of their shoddy police work - they failed Charles and his mother - shame on them!!! My heart goes out to Denise & her undying quest to find Charles.

Shocking, what this mom went through. I don't know if I can finish watching this. It's so heartbreaking.

0MG 😢That poor mother ...and the mistreatment is absolutely shameful 💔

That campground Manager knows something for sure.

What a mother will do for her child. This woman is something else but my heart breaks for her.

Everything about this case is so heartbreaking, from what happened to Charles to how Denise was treated by the authorities. As a Canadian I am so ashamed for what they put her through.

Another one shame on the RCMP, did not care for a mothers desperately asking for help!! Holysht it gets worst and worst how they treated her!

Where are peoples morals and common sense? This is insanity. Also they put no pressure on the weirdo wearing the man’s clothes????!!! Who didn’t give his items in to the police in case something had happened on his site? I also can’t believe they strapped the mother down and put her in a ward as if she’s not the only person with any sense or morals ?! Craziest thing I’ve seen in a very long time. She’s a very graceful loving mother and my heart feels for her💕

Denise, what a remarkable woman. I hope she gets the answers she deserves. What a wonderful relationship she had with Charles. Sending love and light to her from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺 ❤

The guy on the boat running the machine looking for the body even he was being condescending and she was paying him a 1000 dollars a day , with no compassion at all

"Can a mother get over the death of a child?" What stupid question for that reporter to ask that poor woman. Shocking. Smh

The RCMP botched this investigation by their actions. Also I believe that Phil knows more than he is saying. I’m so sorry that Charles mother had to go through such a horrific drama trying to find her son. Why would Phil take his clothes and keep some of his items. Something is not sitting right. Condolences to his Mother 💔💔💔. To lose a child is a nightmare, I know, my son was murdered and there was no justice for his murder. 😢

The gaslighting is unreal. I don't believe a word of these alleged 'sightings'. He met his end at that party and for some reason the RCMP, as usual, were in cahoots with criminals and covered it up. Hospitalizing the mother, then attempting to convince her that he was alive and well are their usual manipulation tactics. Phil is guilty. Wearing his clothes, removing photos, drugging his friend, were all actions of a GUILTY person. RIP Charles and strength and love to his mother. ❤

Is it just me or is the camp ground owner suspicious? Watch his body language.

He and his mom had such a wonderful relationship. 💔

One of the most touching story I have ever heard. My prayers go out to her. Her had to be special, just listening to his mother talk. She is poised and a very Devine woman.

Devastating...she just wants the truth, alive or not....this poor mother....how can these ppl let her live like this....God bless the mom and Charles soul!

When our brother was 14, he did not come home one night when he clearly stated he’d be home at 11 pm. We could not locate or contact the friend he went out with (also 14). Worried sick, very early the next morning we called the non-emergency police number in Calgary. The officer who took the call totally didn’t give a shit. He’s just out with his friends. We tried to give as much information as possible. Their ages. They never did this before. This was very unusual. The other family cannot locate their son either. This was pre-cellphone era. The officer (I should say POS) became impatient, kept dismissing every thing we said, he was cruel & heartless. I asked him why he was a cop which made him angry. Very unprofessional cop was not going to do anything or process our call any further. It was mind blowing that he didn’t listen to anything we said. Turns out my brother & his friend met two older guys who took them to a party outside the city and left them there! The two took hours to walk back home in the dark but also slept in a field in the early morning hours. They arrived home in the afternoon starving, hungry, dusty, and in so much foot pain. They never went out without a quarter ever again! I’m grateful my brother was safe but cops then and today need empathy training and coaching on how to be human being toward families worried or in distress. Our situation turned out ok. I’m so sorry this mom received cruel treatment from the police. Condolences to all the family and friends. 💔

sobbing at the end of this. this poor woman - i hope she can find peace.

Kelowna RCMP really dropped the ball on this case. What they put that poor mother through💔 they should be held accountable Its obvious Phil Flett knows something watch his body language

Back in the 1980's I new the RCMP detective Smith and he was always looking after his own Back side and I never new how someone so uncaring could be in his position. He did as little as possible in doing his job.

The whole country is a mistake and accident that turned into absolute shit puddle . also lieing by the police on tv and the phil guy that runs the park is in on it im sure phil is related to a cop or paid off a copp but he is 100% involved

This was so hard to watch. I pray the victim's mom finds the closure she deserves.

Precious Charles and Denise you are always in my heart. Denise you went through sooooo much mental torture and I am so sorry and it hurts me to see you suffer like this. I know deep in my heart that your precious boy Charles is so proud of you and has the biggest smile up in Heaven saying look at my mom, she never gave up on me. Please try to Rest and take care of your health. I pray your heart will ease and Charles Karoly John Horvath-Allan will be located and brought home for a proper burial of your choice, not theirs. I love you and care about you very much Denise.. xoxox Love Diana Trepkov ( friend of Denise and forensic artist of the pencil sketch of Charles Horvath Allan.) Thank you so much to Crime Beat and to everyone involved, you did an incredible job on this documentary, thank you Jules Knox for the amazing work you do. I appreciate you.) It is time for Charles to come home.

So maybe dumb question, but who was the body they found in the lake

Bikers in the 80’s were wild back then. If you step out of line. There’s no telling what they will do. MAYBE he got too drunk and friendly and was annoying them. They have ways of dealing with situations like that. Just my opinion. And that manager definitely shady.

Absolutely appalling behaviour from the Police Force towards Charles's mother, she was brave and inspirational and put them all to shame! And the fact that she was made to pay for the search in the lake is outrageous

The RCMP was horrible and I am so sorry for this mother unbelievable what she went through and how she was treated. The RCMP should really be replaced by a better police force.

Wow, this story really disgusted me. The way this woman has been treated from day one is shocking. My heart breaks for her. I don't understand why both Canada and the States are so reluctant to take missing people cases seriously.

This story makes me ashamed of Canada.

So wrong. Wish she could have answers. Nothing worse than living the nightmare

Police and all law enforcement FAILED to this mother

No mother should EVER have to go through what Denise has. R.I.P Charles, i hope you are found and brought out of the darkness and laid to rest like you deserve. 🕊❤️

Thing about small Canadian towns and cities is everyone knows everyone and there’s a F ton of corruption and generally don’t want to attract attention from other agencies and the public so they tend to push a lot of things under the Rug.

This reminds me so much of Owen Rooney's case. He was an Australian man who also disappeared from Kelowna in 2010 after working in the area & going to a music festival. He was assaulted & ended up in hospital where he disappeared from. RMCP also botched his investigation & Owen's family was also treated horrendously by authorities. His remains were found in 2017 in the bush. Charles' Mum has been through hell & he definitely died at that campground. I don't believe he worked on May 26th

Who was the body that they found ?? The RCMP are so incompetent.

My heart goes out to you to the mother of Charles. He will meet you in Paradise

Wow! Those officers really bungled up that whole deal! 😡 Unbelievable!!! I am brokenhearted for that poor mother! 😭

Why was she treated so shabily? 😢😢 Rest easy Charles 🙏

Some nurses mess up a lot. I had a baby who was stillborn 13 years ago and I still remember a nurse walking in and saying congratulations. She had looked at the wrong chart. I was too much in shock to get upset

Poor lady. I wish Charles had been smarter about his safety. bc is a rough place and rcmp out there seem pretty useless about capturing murderers of prostitutes, indigenous girls and now backpackers, too. It’s a joke at how bad the policing is out there.

Such a sin. The poor mom, my god, everyone in Canada was heartless. This was her precious son.

I hope Mum sued all these fools. Note to self.NEVER go to Canada.

"yeah he just walked away." i don't think that's the answer a mom wants to hear. She should of hired a PI.

I met Charles on Sunshine Coast in June 1992 outside a store. He was sitting on steps with large backpack. I gave him a ride to the ferry so he wouldn't miss it. I know it was him. He had the accent, and said his name was Charles. I saw the Unsolved Mystery episode when it aired and recognized him immediately,and did call them about our meeting. Last I heard about it until now.

Great coverage

I don't like The Tiny Town Camp manager!

Wow, that woman deserved more answers. Clearly the RCMP know that he had a bank acct and had to work, they sound and look like silly idiots!!! I can only hope this episode can maybe stir something up for Mum.

You are a good mom. The police should have listened to you. I can imagine how you must feel.🇨🇦🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

My heart breaks for her so bad 😢😢😢 I am praying really hard that she finds out what happen to her only child ❤ I am a mother of one son as well and I cant imagine the pain & not knowing ,,, she got a life sentence of so much pain 😢😢😢 Phil is a muderer,,,even if he didnt do it hes guilty for not saying anything ,,,if the B.C cops did a proper investigation & grilled Phil i believe they would know what hapoen to this poor man , cold hearted & evil. Im so sorry you have to go through this 😢❤

I think the camp owner/manager Phil knew exactly what happened and when but took it with him to his death. Who was he afraid of if he didn't murder the poor guy? What was he trying to keep hidden by taking some of the pictures if that's a true story that he did?

I remember this I was living in Kelona at the time this is so sad I can’t believe it’s been 30 years. This poor mama. I am a mother now and I couldn’t imagine what she’s going through sending all her love and prayers to you that one day someone will have the courage to tell the story and give up with your son is.

It's absolutely heartbreaking 💔 . Shame on whoever knows something and doesn't tell. Someone should end this mother's suffering by showing up and telling the truth.

Over the yrs, I have heard nothing but bad things about the RCMP. Wth is up with them all?

So RCMP has been the same since forever. Never disappoints The poor mother 😢 My blood is boiling. This story keeps getting worse 🤯

It’s a shame Karoly was so trusting. Just watching this program as a world traveller you gain instincts about areas to avoid. He seemed to be in the thick of a very transient community, likely known to local law enforcement. Unfortunately, the cops often wash their hands of these ppl in rural areas and allow them to run their petty crimes, and dealings. What an immense failure. These small town cops did nothing and should be called to account. Bring this nice Hungarian boy home to his Édesanya 🇬🇧♥️🇭🇺

Its still so weird seeing my hometown in amy video. Good morning from Kelowna! ✌️

I hope this beautiful lady finds some peace in her life

Our Prayers 🙏to you @Denise as for your beloved son❤ Charles! I'm sorry you were treated so Badly💔 in Canada!!! You are so Strong💪 and Admired for what you have Did & Done to FIND your Son!!! Praying for ALL the Answers YOU Need Soon! God 'Bless' You & Hope you get the "TRUTH"! Someone Knows❤

BC RCMP are terrible! There’s some vibe in BC that’s scary. Poor mom!

Park manager is guilty and the authorities are useless over there. Its not the first time they cant be stuffed and their incompetence shines through. Poor, unfortunate mother having to deal with their crap!

This is so sad . What a miscarriage of justice

Imagine treating someone like that who is looking for their missing son and you just found a body. Do these people not even know how to treat a human with basic decency?

The RCMP guy said there is no evidence of foul play! How about the Tiny Town manager wearing his clothes after disposing of his passport and all the other belongings he didn't use. The RCMP didn't find evidence because they didn't seem to do much investigating when he went missing for the first 3 years. They didn't do anything until his mum travelled there and got leads and the media got involved. They obviously haven't seen the shows about The First 48 or The First 72 - its much harder to find evidence after the first couple of days. If there was evidence its pretty unlikely RCMP would find it.

I’m paused at the 26 minute mark and I’m asking myself where is Charles father and other family members in Canada? Why is his mother suffering alone? Can Charles father not come and assist the mother of his child? Does he himself not care about what happened to his son L what about other family members in Ontario? What up with the silence from other family members?

I have to add that I still have my rosary.now 40 years old.He did not leave that behind.Bless his mother and family.

I cant see him hiding from his mum.People are so stup.d! Just because she wont hive up on her child she is judged.

i live here and the people are cold and ruthless despite the picture perfevt scenery theres a ton of crime here as well tons of theft and drug addicts everywhere even hiding in bushes

OMFG HOW DISGUSTING POOR LADY I FEEL FOR HER .. POOR MOM 😢

When a missing persons investigation of a relatively normal individual has progressed to news coverage, the chance that they have 'run away because they wanted to' by a dumbass cop is stupid and insulting. Shameful story

Yup, Phil was definitely guilty !

I cant believe how badly this was handled. Where was the empathy by the police!? That campground manager throwing his stuff away! He is shady AF! The whole investigation was disgraceful!

I saw her at Compassionate Friends Mothers Day memorial. It was her last time she said that she could come to Kelowna. There are many rumours coming from the streets. Such a sad situation.

Its always a money issue when someone is reported missing , they dont take them seriously first because they cant possibly mobilize a search and rescue operation everytime someone is reported missing. and yet Ive seen some cases that police acted so quickly because they know someone in the police or very rich and/or connected.

Charles mother was and is a remarkable woman. She has gone on to advocate for the missing loved ones from peoples worlds. She and others who have missing loved ones have also gone on to form the Missing People's Choir who perform to keep their loved ones in peoples minds and to hopefully find them. The choir came to the general publics notice when they performed on BGT UK, and won the hearts of millions around the world who also had missing loved ones. The BGT platform made a huge difference to their cause. I hope that sometime they have the answers.

Cautious does not mean callous & derisive, & disrespectful of the grief of a mother. Shame on them all.

Phil knows more that he was telling... How the police handled this poor mother was absolutely rude...They failed that woman and her son horribly...

Karoly Horvath is a very Hungarian sounding name. As a fellow Canadian Hungarian this story hits extra hard ❤

wow..the poor mother..what she had to go through..tough tough brave woman 🙏💔

Omg! A mother looking for her son and ends up in a mental hospital.Seems she had no support and they lacked compassion for a grieving mother.Shameful Canada

Such a terrible story. My sympathies to the mother. May God reveal the whereabouts of this young man and the circumstances of his disapperance.

I'm so sorry for this mothers loss❤.....and I hope she will get her answers.

This is so sad, and so badly managed. There is nothing worse than a missing loved one.

This is my hometown

What a shame. This poor lady, such an irresponsible response to her pain :( . I don't understand the RCMP's continued denial that something had happened to him. In so many years and as time went by they still shrugged it off. Seems they are in the habit of doing this only to be proven wrong over and over again. I really hope they stop assuming and actual start looking for people who are missing!!!

Best of luck to Mum. I hope peace finds you soon.

I feel bad for the mum and dad F the RCMP

the way the authorities manhandled the grieving mother is so disgusting!!

What the hell is going on here

Why on earth didn't the police talk to the manager Phil and absolutely research every possible thing about him. Really unnecessary bad police work! I am so sorry for the mother Denice.

12 min 27 seconds phil gets duping delight

Imagine one day she finds him before she rest in peace 🥺 well I pray for her

Obviously no hope of justice in Canada at the time.What is worse their lack of respect for victims ‘families.What a wonderful mother.

I know what this feels like My oldest left home to LA to experience the rap scene & he almost died. It happened twice because he was intent on seeing more & more. He had to be rescued from LA when the cops beat him for being incoherent & dehydrated Eventually he was taken to Cedar Sinai hospital where they contacted me We worked hard to get him back home. We got him back home He’ll never go back there I’m disgusted at the treatment in the finality. People are selfish & uncaring

Wow that was tough to watch! Poor mum!

Heart broke for this mom.

What an appalling way to treat his mother. It’s truly shameful.

This was a complete cluster F**k. My heart goes out to this Mother. Plus, doing that trek from Vancouver to our neck of the woods in a snow storm can be quite frightening. My heart goes out to this poor Mum. Next time I'm Kelowna, I'll put flowers in the lake for you.❤

Very scetchy! Poor mother

I don’t understand why Charles would leave his ID behind, he needed it for work, cashing cheques. I do believe something happened to him.