Morrisey didn’t jump the gun. He leaped to shout out retrial faster than the speed of sound. Im disgusted with the Norfolk County DA. I’m hoping the federal investigation once it concludes , is the game changer that acquitts Karen Read.
Rene, sounds like you are in ‘emotional distress’ over the absolute FAILURE of prosecutors, cops and judge to railroad, destroy and jail innocent person. Everybody Knows Who Was At Fault & IT ISN’T KAREN READ.
First, I know for myself despite instructions, my sympathetic nerve would be struck especially with any autopsy photos. That being said, I could certainly resolve my emotions and focus on the facts or lack thereof. Personally, I don't see the case being retried given its taint at this point. Even if it were cleansed of unprofessionalism, misconduct and tunnel vision, I think the Commonwealth would rather move on from the focus onto its small town...especially if it could raise suspicion into previous prosecutions by their associated law enforcement.
Exactly. It's bizarre to me that people keep saying it's a complex case when it's crystal clear that he was not killed by being hit by a car. Should have been an easy acquittal by the facts.
This investigation was so biased and botched right from the beginning. It’s not fair to Karen at all. It should be dismissed. Her rights have been violated because of the way they did this investigation.
There's no explanation possible about the jury members who were on the guilty side, except that they were strongly biased to the police community or against KR, other than they were plain idiots. No sane, normal person starting in the neutral mindset could have looked at the evidence and testimonies and not see a mountain of reasonable doubt. Take away the names, genders, origins and professions of people involved and look at just the evidence, there is no proof the victim was actually hit by a car, and plenty of evidence to the contrary. I've never seen a judge try to railroad a conviction in any trial, this was a first and it was shockingly obvious. I wonder how the judge and the jury siding with guilty feels today after seeing the breaking news of Proctor being rehomed, just like the dog Chloe. Essentially, those jurors stood by a vote of confidence in the lead investigator by trusting his testimony, which to anyone with eyes was a stinky pile of BS. That the state police waited for the end of the trial to announce this is just another sign of how deep their manipulation of the community they serve is inbedded into that system. This is not a good look for the whole justice system in that state, seems they go by "guilty 'til proven innocent" there and they'll do anything to uphold that.
Yes and that's why a retrial is just setting taxpayers money on fire. There will ALWAYS be someone who is procop/anti KR on ANY jury they get. Normally the gov would keep retrying until the defendant runs out of money and has to take a plea, but KR has enough of a following that donors will keep her in the fight as long as it takes.
Can't go back to square 1... 😂😂😂 Can't undo this entire trial. Good luck to the prosecution finding a jury that havn't watched and seen all this. Ain't gonna happen. There isn't going to be a retrial.
@@kc-6837I don’t support anyone. I just look at evidence without bias. I don’t pick teams. I take conspiracies with a grain of salt until I see factual evidence of that conspiracy. I also know that Americans eat them for breakfast. I’m an Aussie mate. We keep it very simple. Common sense is important as is logic. Was the investigation sloppy. Yes. Many reasons but weather didn’t help with a blizzard. Though does that mean that this person didn’t commit a crime. Answer is no. She clipped him as the data shows and his phone does not move within seconds after her crazy reverse. His dna is on the housing of the tail light. Meaning it could only get there one possible way as this was a brand spanking car. Fragments on his clothes. Her saying he’s dead at 5 then 5:01 he’s dead and it was a plough. Then she sees a body than no one saw under snow in close to 6 hours. I’m talking every car that drove by saw nothing. Neighbour nothing. People walking to the driveway nothing. Only Karen. Then to top it off she admits it. Guilty.
@@stevenprice6957 I respect your opinion, I was just curious. I'm just going on reasonable doubt. I believe there is a lot of it. Appreciate your comment.
@@kc-6837thanks for a normal decent response. I am not used to it on these pages. It’s usually abuse. Your response is the way it should be. An opinion is just that.
This whole trial was a joke. Both sides asked for a continence. They had so many breaks and half days. The courtroom setup was ridiculous. How are jurors supposed to keep up.
I strongly felt that the “frame job” thing shouldn’t have been brought up as a defense. I think letting the ugly stuff come out naturally during the trial would have created some mistrust or reasonable doubt without trying to convince them. Let the testimony speak for itself
Here in the Netherlands, our law school students and professors are happy with this outcome. This case was frazzled on all sides. We don't know if she is guilty, but we also don't know if the Albert's are guilty. All because of poor investigation, bias, and many false facts.
If you couldn't follow the experts hired by the FBI who testified JO was NOT killed by a car, I would never want any of your law students or professors to represent me.
Here in the UK the crown prosecution service would never have let the case proceed with the lack of credible evidence. I'm sick of hearing how great, the best everything in the USA is but there's this type of cr*p and there's the corrupt SCOTUS and then to top it all, Trump...
Separate from the physical evidence that proved he wasn't hit by a car, your statement of not knowing who killed John O'Keefe means there was reasonable doubt, so based on that she should have been acquitted on all counts.
a jury of your peers ...not unanimous should end trials....that's why we have jury's where is the justice the constitution is clear she should be done with this allegation
The topmost critical piece of evidence apparently ignored by many (including Lally intentionally) is the before-and-after tail light condition. All by itself, this one piece of evidence necessarily means that: (1) Lally’s hit-and run scenario with the dozens of shattered tailight pieces did NOT happen… and… (2) someone shattered the previously only-cracked tail light AFTER Proctor and Bukhenik brought the Lexus back to Canton from Dighton. In his closing, Jackson even put up the side-by-side before-and-after pictures of the tail light. But some jurors just can’t remember details and their significance. And other jurors are not ones to let facts cloud their judgement. It’s all very scary especially when the stakes are a murder charge. It’s alarming to me that the trial even started… let alone ran as long as it did… despite this obvious piece of exculpatory evidence. *** BEFORE Condition: This is Jan 29 at 5:07 AM (minutes before John was found) up until Jan 29 afternoon in Dighton: The “before” state is a much less damage described as “cracked”, “missing a piece”, having “a little black hole” and supported by a video and 2 witnesses who saw it. VIDEO: As Karen is leaving John’s driveway at 5:08 AM after bumping into John’s Traverse and cracking the Lexus tail light, John’s security camera video shows the Lexus tail light with much red light facing rearward but with a dark defect while leaving John’s driveway. WITNESS 1: Kerry Roberts (not exactly a defense-friendly witness) testified Day 16, May 22 (RU-vid, Law & Crime @3:15) observing the Lexus tail light at Jen McCabe’s house shortly before John was found the morning ofJan 29: “And I looked and there was a piece missing… but it was caked on with snow… you could tell there was a little black hole…” WITNESS 2: Dighton Police Sergeant Barros testified Day 22, June 10 (RU-vid, Law & Crime @2:04) about his observations in Dighton of the cracked tail light Jan 29 afternoon shortly before Proctor had the Lexus brought back to Canton: “I saw there was some damage to the right rear tail light… um... to my best ability and recollection that tail light was not completely damaged. It was cracked and a piece was missing, but not completely damaged” *** AFTER Condition: This is sometime in the afternoon of Jan 29 after Proctor and Buhenik had the Lexus brought back from Dighton to Canton. The tail light picture taken is in the sally port shows the tail light shattered, not just missing a piece as in Dighton as Sergeant Barros described. At this time there is no rear-facing red lens remaining but instead just the underlying silver reflector. What little red remains is on the edge of the right-facing wrap-around side. The dozens of shattered pieces magically appeared on the Albert’s lawn and the first pieces were “found” about 5:45 PM. This is about 12 hours after John was found. So in summary, the tail light was missing a piece, showing red rearward at 5:07 AM Jan 29 which is hours after John was allegedly hit. Then a half day later….late in the afternoon of the same day…. It becomes SHATTERED into dozens of pieces. For the next trial, if any, the defense should put the shattered tail light (with all that silver reflector showing) back into the Lexus and turn it on in the darkness of a morning like Jan 29 at 5:07 AM and show those two pictures side by side. The difference in the amount of red light should be dramatic.
Since she is guilty, she should take the first plea offered her, which was like year. She admitted she was guilty in the beginning before Jackson came along with his conspiracy theories.
All 12 voted not guilty on 1st charge manslaughter and the 3rd charge but not the 2nd charge. That was hung so I'm not sure why they can still retry on all charges.
