no more child hood cautions, or adolescent/juvenile mistakes, the multiple rule about 2 convictions as old as 30 years ago no longer valid. Minor errors when young do not make a criminal. We all know the real criminals, the paedophiles, etc. Well done Unlock for standing up for people.
That indeed, is the usefulness of the UK Database. It filters out all the trivial matters and concentrates on those who have been vile, the kind of people you wouldn't want to know or work with, those on List 99, a big list with many thousands of names of people who are deemed unfit to work with children or vulnerable people in general, people convicted of serious indictable offences. Any other serious offence details can easily be found out by typing a person's name onto a search engine and see if it brings up any newspaper articles referring to criminal offences. Anything non-trivial will show up without exception, for all the newspaper archives are online these days, and information can be pulled up in seconds.
I have 14 years without an offence, since then I’ve got NVQ level 2, 1st class honours degree, PhD yet a standard DBS check still shows 4 violent offences. For people like me who have made many stupid mistakes as a young person, there still seems to be no such thing as rehabilitation. What more can I do than 14 years and every qualification possible. These changes are still not enough. Let’s be honest, all the professional societies don’t want us working within their organisations that’s why they’re all “exempt” from the rehabilitation of offenders act. No such thing as rehabilitation.
Mr Man, we live in a very pathetic backward world. People can "change".. Brain plasticity is a real thing. People might want to change but when they have a bad record they can't get jobs.... so society is stopping them.. no wonder people who commit crimes keep doing them, and people think they are bad people.... Nah I say they have to cause society won't allow change.
@@bennybenny7382 Totally agree. It's holding people back from improving their lives. It seems the government is wanting to encourage repeated crimes. Everybody has a right to change their future. It's just another lack of understanding from the government as usual.
I have a similar story, I did all the training, college, University, years of voluntary work etc, then worked for years in mental health using the old system of rehabilitation of offenders act. Then they brought out the enhanced disclosure 25 years after my minor offences and then my career ended. I have no serious convictions but employers just don't like any convictions. I'm now a cab driver with a University Education, thousands of hours of training and years of experience. What purpose did it serve changing from the old system.
This is out of order from the dbs. You have clearly changed by your actions. Mine comes up 30 years later for assault playing rugby 🏉 and also a commercial burglary when I was 18. Then I read In the papers that a judge has left off a girl for stabbing her boyfriend intentionally because she was studying to be a doctor. Its comical I punched someone playing rugby in a scrum and stabby posh pants gets complete grace. Clearly the golden handshake had been done. Sorry but your always considered as sewer scum but your just not from the upper echelons of society 🤷 even with your new education. I have a spare bog brush for you, get cleaning mush!!!
I've found the same thing, you try your hardest to be the best person you can be, prove yourselves to hundreds of people, only to be let down by something stupid you did at 18 or so. They don't take into account your current character or things you've done well over the years, just your childhood history and its completely wrong.
Very informative video! It's essential to stay updated on the changes in criminal record filtering, especially with evolving laws and regulations. Your breakdown of what has changed is super helpful for anyone navigating this topic. Knowledge is power!
Hi, I'm glad to have found your channel. Speaking from my experience, it has taken 55 years for my slate to be wiped clean from a juvenile court judgment even though the case was conditionally discharged. I only found out about this when applying under the 'Homes for Ukraine scheme'. The lad staying with me was medically discharged from the Ukrainian army with a heart ❤️ complaint. I see there's still a lot of work ahead for your organisation especially for those wishing to travel abroad visiting other countries etc only to have their plans thwarted by immigration rules or placed into schemes to enable admissibility.
This is a great first step. I don't know why cautions seem to be treated the same as a criminal conviction. I hope that the next step will be that all cautions will be filtered after a certain period of time.
Thank you so much for all your efforts. You’ve helped change my life. I had two cautions that I thought would haunt me for the rest of my life. I’ve had a career within the health care sector having to disclose my cautions that did not reflect the person I am. I cried when my dbs came back clear. So thank you so much for changing the lives of many !!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@dannyplush9568 Hi Danny, I was told that this is incredibly difficult to do unless you can show that you can prove that you were given the caution incorrectly, just wondering if you know anything different from what I heard? I had a small amount of cannabis on me when I was 19 and now it is causing me trouble to advance in my career and moving to the US
At the end of the day we are all human beings and make mistakes, the fact that it has taken this long to get this far is unbelievable! Everyone who has made a mistake and served there time ect should be given the opportunity to start again without being held back on job opportunities just because of a previous mistake, I myself do not have any criminal past so luckily this has stopped me but I do know many decent people that made bad life choices decade's ago that do not deserve to be held back so thank you for you effort and keep it up, I totally understand that there are some times that certain people should not be working in certain fields and agree that there should be some level of appropriate checks done in those positions for the general publics safety but I am only just finding out that these changes have been made for the less serious convictions that won't necessarily mean that an individual cannot perform well in a good working environment without the need to worry!
If you have two people with the same conviction, one a British citizen, and one a foreign citizen, the conviction will show up on the British citizens DBS, but it won't necessarily show up on the foreign DBS. This is because it can't be traced from abroad. This means direct discrimination is happening to the British job hunter. Many nursing homes only employ foreign staff because it is near impossible to DBS check them, and so saves them a lot of hassle.
I have completed NVQ level 2 in Child Care and BA honours(2:1). One of my child disclosed in school that my partner raised his hand on my daughter and we both were persecuted. However, police and social worker did not find any marks on all of my children. They have even put me into a neglect category because I did not do my 2 years development check for my youngest daughter. At time she was 3 and healthy child and I did not consider it was necessary to be taken. It was like a joke they have interviewed all my children, myself and partner without any sign of abuse. They charged us and I admitted that to discipline the children I do gentle tap them often while it was recording. I am so heartbroken as I would be graduating this year and it will show on my dbs. This system is so unfair and I don’t feel like attending my graduation ceremony as my future will be like a black hole. I am so fed up 😢 and devastated, it has been 6 years since that incident happened and any changes of me to get into Health and Social Care looks are gone. I have spoken to Chris on Unlock regarding this issue and he has provided me assurances. If the police did not find any marks why is it still showing up in there system. I have applied for the dbs and waiting for the outcomes.
@@WTMT_NG , the system is so unfair, the Social workers are just after the money and they can do anything to make the case strong against vulnerable individuals. I am applying for the enhanced DBS check and praying 🙏 to lord to ease for me the journey ahead.
Oh.. No wonder my CRB came out clean when i got the job at NHS few years ago. I was shocked. I've been done for dumb things when i was younger, graffiti, cannabis and the amout of stop and search for no reason. This was when i was 15-19. I'm in my 30s now.
This is life changing for more real general people than you could ever realise. Rather learn from a mistake earlier rather than later is my opinion on the matter
Such good news, well done Unlock. People should be allowed to show their employment potential, without being judged on previous situations that happen for reasons they may not want to go into.
However people from blitzed countries cant be checked for criminal records. UK police are not checked for criminal records via DBS disclosures, all in-house for them and a conflict of interests in law.
Blitzed countries? UK police are checked through their criminal records - no filtering for them, and plenty of offences that would be filtered by the DBS bar someone from being a police officer, even a caution.
it should be completely wiped when its not majorly serious crimes and you've stayed straight for say 20 years I had a mispent youth mainly dragged in with peer groups I haven't so much as broken a single law in 30 years but I am still screwed by my convictions age 16-20 a murderer rapist can enter our country via channel boats and make up a brand new name and have a clean record once granted asylum
I have an ABH caution from july 2010 which still shows up some 11 years later, I also have a caution for battery of July last year ie 2020 , I've applied for so many Jobs and I have always disclosed at the application and interview stage but always fail when it goes to a internal dbs panel, ie failed at the dbs stage, when will both of these cautions disappear and when will I get the chance to shine in my employability
I would contact DBS to make sure the old conviction is removed due to it being 11 years old now. The caution will take another 11 years to remove unless the law changes in the meantime.
Stay on benefits. Sod the work. If they don't want us, and insist on raking up old convictions and punishing people forever, then live on benefits. The whole DBS system is belittling, humiliating and cruel. Note that MP's are not required to have a DBS themselves. What a surprise! Expect so much from the little people, but not of themselves.
I agree. Also, isn't it interesting that journalists are not required to have DBS checks, even though their role is - supposedly, accordingly to them - crucial to our democracy, and so much depends on them telling the truth. You would think they would be pleased to undergo such checks and it would not be hard to arrange: just make it a requirement for NUJ membership or for a journalistic or broadcasting role with OFCOM-regulated or self-regulated media or press entities. Remember, this is soooo important. It's about the safety of [kids/women/cute puppies/panda bears]. It's vital for [our democracy/the war on terror/our nation's future/our children's future/the safety of women/the NHS]. As you are implying, all these concerns from people with criminal records are for average folk anyway. People on here are fretting over not being allowed to be a better-paid wage slave, which is what the majority of people are, including most professionals. The solution is to start your own business or let them dole you off and live a stress-free life away from their rat race.
@@TomRogersOnline Thank you for replying to me with such a brilliant comment. I agree with you wholeheartedly. We now know you can be in the police without a DBS, a judge, a politician, a solicitor and lawyer. If you are baseline, minimum wage nothing people like the majority, they will unfairly make us jump through hoops backwards and punish you if it's not done properly. One rule for us and one for them. Nursing homes prefer to hire carers from overseas because it's quicker and simpler to employ them. They are not subjected to the same mania around DBS checks as British people because their criminal pasts (if any) can't be checked anyway. This means that British people with a criminal record are being discriminated against. You have more rights coming from overseas with DBS than being born here. 😂 You couldn't make it up. You're right, live on the dole.
@@dean9235 You do need a DBS check for the roles you mention - and rightly so - but the official reason for DBS checks isn't to exclude people with criminal records, rather it is to manage risk by giving decision-makers the fullest information. If a DBS check reveals a criminal record, that doesn't mean you can't employ or appoint the individual, only that the information should be taken into account in weighing up and managing the risk posed - if you see the difference. Of course, in reality this nuance has been lost. You see people with the words 'DBS checked' on their profiles, and I'm always tempted to ask, 'But what does it say?' Someone could be a murderer and say 'DBS checked' and be telling the truth. A DBS check is a search, not a seal of approval. You are supposed to check the search result, i.e. the DBS certificate. If we're candid about this, nobody wants to employ somebody with a criminal record. That includes people who have criminal records themselves - not hypocrisy really, it's just understandable. In the past, this was well understood and the solution was to limit who could and could not know about a criminal record and how it was publicised. This was on the imperfect but pragmatic principle that if people did not know, it would not be an issue. Any historic information was circulated only amongst sensible people who had a reason to know it (mainly people working in the criminal justice system). The change that came with Huntley and then search engines means that Mavis down the street can know about your past. Is Mavis sensible enough to be trusted with this sensitive information? Meanwhile, John in HR has a right to know if you apply for that warehouse job. We can't have criminals running round our warehouse, what if they steal something? Want a job as a probation officer? Wait for Mary, Jim and Steven and other team members to review your DBS check and decide if there are any safeguarding issues. Were you a naughty boy 20 years ago? Forget about joining a profession. Stick to that factory job - didn't you know that menial jobs are a form of punishment? The public just have some queer ideas, but it must be understood that the average type person is a conformist, obedient stick in the mud: a person's past is also his present. Or he will jump through hoops like a dog at Cruft's for the honour of being a better-paid wage slave. Witness some of the comments on here, such as: "Good grief! I've just completed Level 6 in Advanced Cosmonaut Dental Hygiene in Martian Terraformed Environments, plus I have a PhD and my thesis was on the ethological implications of spanking kangaroos with a table tennis bat, and I still can't get a job as a trainee accountant. What the feck has the world come to?' That being said, a criminal records regime as sweeping as this one is bound to be repressive, encourage paranoia and produce unfair results. The motives for maintaining it are varied but the overarching points are that society has been overtaken by 'safetyism', to an extent justified because we don't want certain people doing certain jobs, but as with anything justified, it has been taken too far. There is always slippage and function creep with things like this and it plays a useful role in social control: average people have sensationalist mindsets and like to measure where they are in the pecking order, which is instilled by TV-watching. The average person thinks that the Telescreen and RU-vid channels are reality.
Am I right in reading online that even a not guilty in court can still show up on a dbs check? If so why is this innocence still showing, please enlighten me if there is some truth in this? Thank you, Stephen
Can be a problem if I had a conditional discharge 8 month ago and I dud the door supervisor course last week if they check the criminal records can the sia refuse me the badge please let me know
The SIA have a criminal record indicator. If you put details of your conviction into this it will let you know if you will be refused, accepted or refused now but can reapply at a later date. - www.services.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pages/licensing-cri.aspx.
Now, each conviction will be looked at by itself. So, if all of your convictions are now eligible for filtering, they will all be filtered if 11 years have passed since conviction. If some of your convictions can be filtered but others can't, only the convictions that aren't filtered will be shown.
@@TheRedPolyhedral What are the typ convictions that aren’t filtered? Can you please give me any for examples !! There are so many different criminals convictions?
So basically all our information that the copper told us it’s minor and it won’t be a crime record, can show on Enhanced DBS check. The police don’t care about your freedom hence why they didn’t explained it properly.
If the caution was for a protected offence. Then it would have been removed from your standard/enhanced DBS check after 6 years. For a basic DBS check a caution is spent straight away. So, you never have to disclose a Police Caution for a basic DBS check.
Very confused as there are offenses that are within the step-down model which have been specifically stated that should be filtered in 6 years for (eg Class B/C offenses) but is contradicted by offenses by the government own list of offenses that will not be filtered. Another grey area point for us layman, would be statements often made by the police during an arrest that your warning/caution will be struck off in 5 years (clear period) but yet people have that same offense reappear on DBS often many years later (way beyond 5 years). So where does the offender stand for future employment if the premise of a 5 year clear period is not officially valid even if has been stated by the police upon signing/admitting to the caution.
Sadly, we have to ignore what we were told by the police, as they do the start of the process, and Unlock deals with the end of the process. Only the government's list of offences that won't be filtered is relevant. If you're not sure, contact the Unlock Helpline.
Criminal records last until the recipient is 100 years of age - meaning it's for life. Nobody can get them removed as that's the whole point of them in the first place.
Hi i wanted to ask. I was interviewed by police a few years back for a incident and they said the matter was No Further Action. Will this be on my record. Thanks.
Hi there. Details of this interview would remain on the Police National Computer until you are 100 years old. However, it would never be disclosed on a basic or standard Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check and would only appear in the 'additional information' section of an enhanced DBS check if the police believed it to be recent and relevant to the job you were applying for.
@@UNLOCK2000 so if i was applying for a travel visa or job this is not a criminal record and therefore i don’t need to declare this on any applications that right?
@@UNLOCK2000 how can it be legal for the police to keep on record like a NFA if you have not been convicted of this crime I was arrested for cannabis possession with intent to supply cautioned for possession but the left the intent with nfa on my pcn how is the fair that checks can show something I'm not guilty of I'm now no longer able to work abroad much less able live there
Many offences seen as less serious are eligible, if you didn't get prison or a suspended sentence. If you're not sure, please contact the Unlock Helpline.
Hi, I plead guilty to a common assault charge in June 2015. My new employer are going to run an enhanced DBS check, prior to me being accepted the position. Do you believe this will be shown, or can it be filtered out? Thank you in advance for your support.
All convictions show on an enhanced DBS check for 11 years if you received a adult conviciton when you were 18 or over. 5 1/2 years if you have a youth conviction and was under 18. Common Assault is protected and will filter off your enhanced DBS check, as long as you did not receive a prison or suspended prison sentence. So, as long as you didn't receive a prison or suspended prison sentence your adult conviction will filter off your enhanced DBS check in 2026. If you have a youth conviction it would have filtered off your enhanced DBS check in 2020/21.
If you have been arrested, bailed but no charges raised and were free to go, then this sound like No Further Action. If that is the case, then you have Police Information. You do not have a conviction or a Police Caution. So, you have nothing to disclose for a employment DBS check. Police Information can appear on an enhanced DBS check under the "other relevant information" box, if it is relevant and ought to be disclosed. So, again Police Information is not disclosable, as it is not automatic that the Police will disclose the information they have on you, on your enhanced DBS check. However, if your Police information is disclosed on your enhanced DBS check, then contact Unlock and we will guide you on how you can challenge it.
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Permanent exclusion from bettering themselves is hideous. Especially in professions that have managed go get themselves out of the rehabilitation of offenders act. Ironically the legal profession would be better served by people with coloured backgrounds of their own that have chosen a better path...
Hi I really need some advise what happen to me I was 7 year old lost both my parents in car accident I grow up in care home I done few silly things when I was younger now I’m 34 year old with multiple businesses I have 24 employees I own 13 properties 2 my Business is shut down because I need a DBS check done I done one 3 month later still nothing continue losing money every day because we can’t do any mots 7 my employees been with me since 2018 I really don’t Wana let anyone go al have families and mortgages so I done the dbs check again still not come back I was taking my ex to court to see my daughter her solicitor decide to do a police check on me my record come back 50 pages for things I never even done or had any involvement to that stuff how do I clear my name for al this crimes been accused of one them I was wrongly picked up in the park saying I was under rest for robbery 24 hours later got the cctv they guna didn’t look anything like me let me out say sorry we made a mistake but is showing up on Record I can’t not believe it
Hi John, It sounds like the solicitor may have done a Subject Access from ACRO to get a copy of your criminal record. Although this normally have to be conducted by you. So that I can assist you, please contact our Helpline on 01634247350. It is open Monday-Fridays, 10am - 4pm, Monday to Fridays.
You think that’s bad I was a sleep in bed woken up to buglers attacking me a stabbed them they thru acid in my face I went to prison for defending my self uk your not allowed to defend ur self USA. Got it spot on 2nd amendment
Please I need help will. Simple Caution. show up on my enhanced DBS check. DESTROY OR DAMAGE PROPERTY (VALUE OF DAMAGE #5000 OR LESS - OFFENCE AGAINST CRIMINAL DAMAGE ACT 1971 ONLY)
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