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What is Crow or Butterfly Braking? How to program this mix in OpenTx.
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@Jimgoodwin846 6 лет назад

Wow! You sure make it look easy and all that’s going on in the background.

@xeriamaned 6 лет назад

Brilliant and timely. I've just bought my first Phoenix 2m. Thanks Andrew

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Excellent, fun times ahead

@jeffzhorton 6 лет назад

Thanks Andrew - I managed to get crow to work myself using a switch but your method of kicking it in on a halfway point on the flap slider seems much better! Must try that and loved the catch at the end!

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Thanks Jeff. It works for me

@paulvonrentzell5189 6 лет назад

Very nice and to the point.

@KenKneknaneek 3 года назад

Thanks for the explanation of crow braking.

@charliehayden3052 6 лет назад

Great vid Andrew. Many Thanks. Have been away from slope soaring for a few years but have just got a Phoenix and plan on a Taranis for my move to 2.4 GHz planned for mid April. Your programming info will be very helpful.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Great combo Charlie. I have a playlist of Taranis programming

@flyingrock6381 6 лет назад

Thanks for the Taranis tips; I'm in the process of setting this up on my Volantex Ranger 2000.... Cheers!

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Sweet

@jasoneyes01 6 лет назад

The crow on my glider causes severe pitch up too, need to figure out how to mix in some down elevator. My Futaba 10J is a little convoluted and frustrating in the programming. Really love your videos and seeing your results after you build stuff.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Cant help you with a Futaba Jason, keep trying.

@jo2lovid 6 лет назад

Gotta love crow settings for slope and park landings. So cool to have ur plane land right at your feet while under full control in windy situations.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Raise your arm, wave to the crowd. Oh yes, I just did that

@DonDegidio 6 лет назад

Hi Andrew, Nice catch at the end. :-)

@olliea6052 6 лет назад

Nice job andrew. Thanks!

@Aurora..Borealis 3 месяца назад

Legend! Fantastic description

@AndrewNewton 3 месяца назад

Many thanks!

@voldelurubu619 6 лет назад

Very interesting setting

@7demo7review 6 лет назад

awesome!

@stationairventures6397 4 года назад

Andrew, after a 30 year hiatus from RC I am back enjoying it again. Your videos are very helpful in setting up my Ranger 2000. Question on crow braking, I have the ailerons on a Y harness and I set up the mixing as you showed. When the flaps go all the way down, one aileron goes up the other down. I am guessing I need separate channels for this to work? I have flown this with the DJI camera system. Works great.

@AndrewNewton 4 года назад

That's right, need separate aileron channels

@kentross6545 6 лет назад

Have you set up crow-brakes on your FX-79? I am building one and I am very curious if it is possible. Thanks, you have great videos and information.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Not yet, it's on the list of things to try. The FX-79 does need a long landing area

@kartherton 4 года назад

Now that is super handy info Andrew. Thanks Keith 🇬🇧. 👍from me.

@AndrewNewton 4 года назад

Go Crow!

@andresabrego269 6 лет назад

Another great video, thank you a lot! Any experience with this kind of setup in a flying wing like the fx-79?

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Not yet, I must try it

@NunoFlyer 3 года назад

Hello my friend. Its possible do that with 6ch receiver?

@AndrewNewton 3 года назад

Yes, flaps on a Y lead using only one channel. Ailerons must be on individual channels

@upperechelon3456 6 лет назад

Great video Andrew [as usual] If i'm not mistaken you are getting the flaps and ailerons mixed up in your definition. Just saying. Thanks Jason

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Did I? It is quite likely. I often mix up what I'm trying to say.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

I think you might be mistaken Jason. At what time did I mix it up?

@upperechelon3456 6 лет назад

You are correct. I was looking at the model backwards. A little bit of dyslexia on my part LOL. Sorry

@sbogdan1 6 лет назад

Andrew Very clever setting I have set up ailerons and flaps on the gas rod. In addition, the flaps are located on the three-position switch I would be happy to send you these settings, you could test it ? What do you think about it ?

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Sure, send the settings and I'll have a look apnewton@gmail.com

@sbogdan1 6 лет назад

Sent to email apnewton@gmail.com

@gordgitzel7367 6 лет назад

Very good explanation of crow braking. Now why is the AWS wing on the Evolution? I assume you at 40W beach? It looks familiar.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

The ASW wing is on an old Phoenix 2000 body because I wasn't flying either of them. Makes a cool big sloper. Yes it is 40W

@bleeksbentbits3150 6 лет назад

I really enjoy your Taranis set-up guides & this kind of stuff covered here, thank you :) Have you ever experimented with using/mixing for Duckerons (duel elevons) on a wing in Open Tx or on the Taranis itself? I started an FT Spear a while back & set it up with Duckerons & looking to finish it after current project & found little info on the subject, do you think it might be something you would look into at some stage?

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

If I get a plane that has Duckerons I will.

@Dragon-Slay3r Год назад

@@AndrewNewton will helicopters do? Lol

@trevorwright6058 5 лет назад

Thanks for the wonderful library of knowledge you share mate. Do you have a crow braking setup for the flysky fs i6. It only has 3 mixes so am wondering if the 10 channel mod will offer a sneaky way through?

@AndrewNewton 5 лет назад

My freind Allen knows more about this radio ru-vid.com/show-UCxp23yC005hanSysA4vodQA I haven't setup crow with it yet

@ror-ys3qp 4 месяца назад

so this only works if you are using 2 channels for ail and 2 for flaps?

@AndrewNewton 4 месяца назад

Must have ailerons on 2 channels but flaps can be on 1

@ianjemmeson6746 4 года назад

Andrew Thanks for that detail I have just set up my new AW28 exactly on your settings for crow. However my slider does not work anything until over halfway travel. It brings in Flaps and ailerons etc as per yours after halfway but for some reason it wont work the flaps in the initial stage. Any ideas what I might have missed? Also the ailerons don't go down as much as they go up, is yours the same? Ian Jemmeson Melb.

@AndrewNewton 4 года назад

Hi Ian. I didn't cover Crow in full detail here. Have a look at this full house video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gqjIg6fB_fQ.html My ailerons do go up and down the same amount.

@vovsen123 4 года назад

Is it possible to use a 6 channel receiver and have the flaps on the same channel? look very easy to set up I'm going to do it on the Jumper T16.

@AndrewNewton 4 года назад

Yes as long as your flap servos are the same orientation

@vovsen123 4 года назад

Andrew Newton Wow! Fast answer, then it will be first thing to do tomorrow. Happy Easter.

@dennisrkb 5 лет назад

what's your opinion on taping foam wings?, that is completely covering them with clear packaging tape.

@AndrewNewton 5 лет назад

Good idea, I often tape the leading edge and about 1/3 back

@baee2521 6 месяцев назад

I try to setting like you but right ailerons up and left ailerons down . how to fix it?

@AndrewNewton 6 месяцев назад

Each must be on separate channel, no Y Leads

@baee2521 6 месяцев назад

@@AndrewNewton Thank you. Andrew

@miklosko3355 6 лет назад

Hello Andrew. Thank you for the video and explanation. Only one question: do I have to mix in some elevator too for each position differently? Thank you kindly! Liked and subscribed.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

No I just put the elevator mix on the same slider, dont have to be too precise.

@miklosko3355 6 лет назад

Andrew Newton Great.Thank you Sir. I'm trying to set up my ROC hobby V glider 2.2m and wasn't sure if I need any at all. There isn't much elevator deflection on full up or down so I was worried will I loose some authority on tail. Again,thank you for reply and awesome tips. PS: I admire you your skills on the slope. One day...maybe... I'll be able to fly like that. Kind regards.

@pierretruchon4353 2 года назад

I try to do crow braking on radio master tx16s, nothing work properly if I try to follow your method on taranis

@AndrewNewton 2 года назад

Strange. It should work in the same way. Start again and check each step works.

@clivegudgeon6556 6 лет назад

Hi andew just been looking at your video on crow braking could you explain the function x is less than zero on my teranis radio regards vlive

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

That limits the mix to when the input is less than zero (or stick is moved below or to the left of centre).

@MrFlyingSquirl 6 лет назад

Ohhh, for some reason I always thought crow breaking was having flaps split along their length so that there's flaps above and below the wing. Would crow breaking work on a mini talon? They're a bugger to slow down

@MichelPASTOR 6 лет назад

The Mini Talon doesn't have flaps but you probably can use the ailerons as spoilerons.

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Need flaps and ailerons for Crow, and it's more effective on gliders and big wings

@DorsetSaferRoads 6 лет назад

if you dont have flaps throwing the ailerons upwards is almost as good. if you are on taranis this template is amazing rc-soar.com/opentx/setups/f3f/index.htm

@MrFlyingSquirl 6 лет назад

Adrian Chapmanlaw oh amazing, thank you! I was thinking of adding flaps in but that's even better AND I have a taranis! Thanks so much

@DorsetSaferRoads 6 лет назад

no problem, when setting up just ignore all the flap related bits on channel 3 and 4 :-) there is an electric version of it too if you want to fly with power.

@sparrowlt 6 лет назад

I miss my Phoenix :(

@milosimus 3 года назад

is it possible to use this method on a fixed wing ?

@AndrewNewton 3 года назад

Fixed wing? If you mean flying wing then the answer is no, needs a tail for stability

@milosimus 3 года назад

@@AndrewNewton yeah that's what i thought, got a juggernaut v2 and played around with the opentx, well atleast i managed to put reflex on a switch for starting it lol

@fredheimer 3 года назад

You doesn't show the mixing settings of your crow function;-( search for crow function settings with flight mode & variable crow on throttle stick

@AndrewNewton 3 года назад

On the mixer page section

@tankogenonrcgroups9750 4 года назад

Can this be done on a nine cap futaba ?

@AndrewNewton 4 года назад

Dont know that radio

@eltio77556 6 лет назад

hi andrew... i m in the mixing menu but i'm not able to get the x

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

What can you see on the mixer page? Highlight the line then select EDIT

@eltio77556 6 лет назад

push edit on aileron where i can see offsett, ecc but i cant get x

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Its in the Curves line, change to Func then select X

@eltio77556 6 лет назад

It works.... Thanks Andrew.... Is it normal that when I got full flap and aileron up this one don't goes down as normal situation?

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Aileron should go down a bit as long as you copied my mixing

@MikeDesertHunterHale 6 лет назад

If you didn't have your Taranis could you still do this?

@kral5932 6 лет назад

Deserthunter Mike it depends how much programming your transmitter has

@MikeDesertHunterHale 6 лет назад

Like, Cobol, Fortran, had them all, some good, some bad.....

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Yes, most programmable radios could do this

@coronavirus7548 3 года назад

😘

@MichaCieplik 6 лет назад

can you export the settings and share ?

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Yes, email me

@gamingkiDuniyaa48 3 года назад

Nick

@DorsetSaferRoads 6 лет назад

you might be interested in this, I just set it up on my rcrcm tango. it was really easy and very very adjustable. It has differential cancellation too so you can throw the ailerons all the way up without losing control authority or over travelling the ailerons. rc-soar.com/opentx/setups/f3f/index.htm ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tOuAL6s5E6U.html

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Amazing programming Anthony. Way beyond my abilities.

@DorsetSaferRoads 6 лет назад

Andrew Newton mine too! Thankfully Mike created a template for us and a nice manual to follow for setting it up 😀

@TonyWony 6 лет назад

wait can you force a that plane down with the elevator

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Yes but this is so it doesn't come down at high speed.

@TonyWony 6 лет назад

oh what about flare

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

The flare would just make it continue gliding off the slope....unless the airspeed is low enough. Crow braking is all about reducing airspeed in a shorter distance than a normal glide landing.

@TonyWony 6 лет назад

ok i think i will stop never flow a good glider

@AndrewNewton 6 лет назад

Good questions Tony. Shows you have a thirst for knowledge.