CTR: Original vs. Nitro Fueled - Physics Comparison 

*Sewer Speedway shortcut jump physics have now been changed.* This video has many mistakes, READ MORE While you have fire, you now have a much higher larger timing window on the Sewer quarterpipe to get a trick-jump. this was patched in. 1:37 is incorrect. The early jumps do not fail because they make you go into the ground. The reality is that the timing window for the trick-jump is just really small, at the very edge of the ramp. The hoizontal tilting you as you're jumping is (very likely) purely animation. 2:25 I did not mean to imply that the weird edge collisions are random, just that they're bad. 3:24 I incorrectly stated that spamming jump will stop you from losing speed as quickly. This is not the case in Nitro Fueled. 4:12 is incorrect, as jumps can be buffered, it's just the timing window is quite small. 9:06 is correct, but I neglected to mention that it is the reserves system in general that was changed. So the fire changes don't just affect blue fire, but also orange and yellow fire. 10:06 states that powersliding in the tunnel moves the player. This is not true. In both games, powersliding only increases the fire level. If you are already at the max speed of the fire tier (orange, yellow or blue) then it only adds to your reserves. The difference is that the camera no longer has a hard limit at fire tiers, so even at max speed of fire tiers your camera will briefly pull out. *Things I neglected to mention* The directional momentum coming out of powerslides is gone, the game just snaps your direction to exactly where you are driving. Speed dropoff is directly tied to fire in Nitro Fueled, while the original had slow dropoffs Being in the air no longer stops your speed from lowering. Airbraking and down+braking no longer kills reserves. The much taller high jumps also cause crashing into ceilings on certain problem areas that are on many maps. *Final notes* I did not mean to imply that every change was a bad thing. I actually somewhat like braking/u-turns here, and the fire mechanics are a blast. Even the stricter jump buffer timing is a good thing. I was simply going over the differences!

I don't blame Beenox about the half pipes. Naughty dog was just in 2030 instead of 1999.

This (sewer) used to be my favorite track, not in nitro fueled

Man, you should send this to the game developers now that they're still fixing the game. It might be helpful for them... I mean, they might just don't know many of these details or don't know how to address them properly.

Glad someone else talked about the random stutter that happens at ramps and jumps. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve missed the shortcut on blizzard buff because I just randomly lost all my speed at the moment I jumped

I wish people in the comments would realize that this video was made to point out things for Beenox to fix so Nitro Fueled can be as good as it can be, not use it as an excuse to bash it. This all can easily be patched. Beenox have put so much love and care into this game and it's still great to play despite the physics not being like the original, but this can all be fixed.

sewer speedway went from being my favorite track to one of my least played tracks

I loved sewer speedway and blizzard bluff, a lot.. now i hate them because it feels like rolling a dice everytime i try to use a shortcut..

I knew something was off, i used to be more confident in controlling, thank you for this great video

Not being able to drive on edges in polar pass and oxide station is extremely annoying

I noticed some of these, but it's worse than I expected. I hope they patch the invisible walls and the wall collisions in particular. Losing all speed and reserves from barely scratching the edge of the track is way too punishing.

CTR nitro fueled doesnt have the smoothest bumps like in the original CTR. Sometimes you get it, sometimes you dont. Especially the tortoise jump in the Mystery Caves.

Hope the devs see this. These changes are making me not enjoy the game as much. Feels clunky to me. Although, I think the track skip patches and continuous blue fire is a good change.

So I'm not lying to myself the game is a little busted on the physics end

9:26 is the best change made into CTR:NF

Sewer Speedway really makes me so sad now. It was legitimately my favorite map in CTR because of the the final full Pipe section and sliding on the walls. Now it's my least favorite map in Nitro Fueled.

GOD, SOMEBODY FINALLY ADDRESSED THIS!!! THANK YOU SIR!

So there are real issues, I thought I had gone insane...sure, I'm rusty, but I used to be not _too_ bad! This game is kicking my ass lol

You voice is extremely relaxing , continue making videos

The number of times i've bumped into that fkn sewer shortcut on the last lap of the oxide time trial...

I knew something was off... Played this game for years as a kid and could always get the shortcuts right. Now it just feels clunky.

Yeah screw that jump in sewer speed way, cant tell you how many times I had to retry it to get the platinum relic

"here's a compilation I put together of crashing while driving up ramps in CTR" lmfao that's the best

I thought I forgot the technique. Bloody nitro fueled

Very informative. The driving physics in _Nitro Fueled_ threw me off since I'm very used to _CTR_ 's style, and something felt off while I first played the game.

Nobody: JcNumbers: SLAP!

I sat down with my Father to play the remake, just like I did 20 years ago and when it came to my fav level sewer speedway. I was super excited.... It was the most depressing experience I had playing the remake. Failing to do the race due to my muscle memory not matching and having race with barely any slide boosts. This needs to be fixed

THANK YOU. Beenox needs to see this!!

THIS ONE HAS TO REACH BEENOX!!!! Thank you!!!

Awesome video man. Beenox should really see this.

I'm glad Im not the only one that noticed these things too. Friends thought I was crazy I noticed the differences. -.-

This video sums up my issue with ramps/sewer speedway in general for CTRNF. My best Oxide time in CTR is nowhere close in CTRNF.

Excellent video. Exactly what I was looking for. They really need to fix a lot of stuff on CNF!

Thanks for the video! Im glad someone finally made a comparison video!

Should definitely consider making more videos in the future. I really dig this one. 👌🤘

Send it to Beenox, this video should be used for reference when bugfixing.

Thank you! Very very good video. You highlight a lot of problems that most skilled players on the original CTR likely experiences on Nitro-Fueled. Send this to Beenox!!!

You are so knowledgeable on these games. It was quite informative.

THANK YOU!!!!!!! Finally someone made this video

I came here after I realized they ruined my favorite track

Nicely worded man, great video

I came. Seen only half of this, but already sent it to the devs. Everyone should do the same. Edit: Send feedback here. support.activision.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/Crash-Team-Racing-Nitro-Fueled-Feedback-and-Bug-Reporting?clickedOn=

At last someone who has realized the bugs and the differences about CTR y CTRNF... Thank you so much!!!!

Very good and comprehensive video. Congratulations! :)

I used to use that Sewer Speedway shortcut in CTR almost everytime.. now I dont even bother to use it on online match because I would fail like 80% of all times..

Great Video! Thanks for makin this. I also like the outro music :)

Was kinda disappointed that the grand prix patch literally didn't fix anything at all, and online is wonky as hell, still i hope this game gets fixed and just doesn't get forgotten and die this early.

Good video please make more of these crash analysis videos

thanks for your videos! it's very important what u mentioned

I love the core gameplay of Nitro Fuelled, but there's so much that needs fixing. The biggest issues for me are the random invisible walls when going off a ramp and the way that the wall geometry doesn't line up with the hitboxes. The number of times I've clipped invisible walls and lost blue fire because of it is upsetting. If the original CTR had a significant online component, I'd be playing that instead.

oooommmmggg yes okay you put all of my issues into words. years and years of OG ctr are burned into my mind, and as ive been playing the remake, i couldnt figure out why i fucked up so much on random little things (such as walls holding you back or slapping you).

Sweet video on man, I love this game. I hit the sub button.

it is almost impossible to get in the shortcut in sewer speedway consistently.

And that's it for Sewer Speedway's issues *YYEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA-*

im glad im not the only one who experienced all of these issues with the new game. It was very frustrating having to relearn how to do the sewer speedway shortcut and that there are areas in maps that can really slow you down.

See !? SEE !? I knew I wasn't the only one having problems with sewer speedway! Thank you! I've been trying to do that shortcut many times and failed! I used to jump successfully when I was a kid. This used to be my favourite map, now it just gives me rage quit!

2:11 - 2:23 10/10 sound effects.

And you can no longer open the Tiger Temple shortcut with rockets when standing directly in front of it

Great video, hope they fix all of this

Great video!

QUICK! Send this to Beenox!

Glad someone made a video on the insane difference in the physics between the original and beenox recreation. Cause this new deff takes getting used to, course at this point ive beaten oxide on every level by 5+ seconds, but yea.

Great video, they need to fix all of these things. I noticed most of them myself while playing and I’m not even that good player.

Definitely post this on their Twitter!

finally a video showing the same problems iv been having with this, such a change from getting all platinums on the original ctr and then playing this

Nice comparison. This shows how perfect CTR was (and is). It seems like invisible walls and infinite blue fire is gonna be a problem. Something that I noticed and Didn't like it is the shorcut in the sewers, now it's too easy.

This gives me a smile, also they could probably fix some of these, but it's not the end of the world if they don't

Also for the shortcut for the Blizzard Bluff track, in Nitro Fueled, there are invisible walls if you go to the right of the shortcut, you’ll lose the boost because there’s an invisible wall, and can’t use the shortcut without practice. I say all of this because for me, N. Tropy was so hard to defeat on that track. But I finally made it. They should fix that as well.

Everyone, send this video to Beenox

Nice analysis

Need more videos that was class 🔥🔥🔥🔥

This kinda explains why I seem to be having a much harder time on maps I knew I could easily play through. I hit so many things now and get stopped so often

Half-pipes are so annoying in Nitro Fueled, especially on Deep Sea Driving. With zero-gravity removed and replaced with a half-pipe, the drive-able area is considerably reduced, yet they kept the blades the same width. That last set of blades after a blind corner are probably the single most difficult obstacle in the entire game, and the awkwardness of driving in a half-pipe makes it harder yet.

Man iv been playing OG CTR since release and I still suck balls at that short cut I’m glad to know why, cheers !

I barely make this shortcut but so satisfying when you pull it off ;)

I tried to jump on sewer speedway shortcut with very low speed, I started from half of the pipe to the ramp, and I still got it. so it really doesn't matter how fast your speed are, if you can't jump on the softspot you'll break into a wall...

This is one of the best RU-vid videos 👍

Dang son! You broke that down, word !

So in some ways nitro fueled is harder than the original. With these dodgy collisions. The nerfed handbrake turn that now needs u turning tech to pull off and the loss of all momentum on any collisions. Although the buff to usf does offset the difficulty a bit but at the same time is sort of kept in check by the loss of momentum on collisions. So it's kind of just as hard to master or increases the skill ceiling even further by allowing the top players to boost indefinitely.

Subscibed!!

This was... Perfectly explained ! If these issues get fixed this game will be nearly perfect.

So basically a 1999 game has better physics than the 2019 remake?

Something I encounter on occasion is if you come too close to a wall you are mostly parallel to while going fast, sometimes you will go into this sort of weird physics for a moment where it's almost like the game doesn't know what to do. You are allowed to keep racing as normal after that, it doesn't cause your kart to crash or anything, but you do lose a fair bit of speed which can be annoying. Also Oxide Station is horrid in online races because if someone leaves an item on the indoor boost jump or you get hit by an item from behind, you won't be able to make the jump and will fall to a much earlier point in the track, dooming you to 8th place. It can be very difficult to score a better position after this, especially if it happens on the final lap. This could easily be fixed by placing a trigger to reset you to before the jump above the earlier point of the track below high enough that nobody would be able to jump up to it early.

That sewer speedway jump can indeed be awful but I give it plus 1 point for the hilarity of playing online and watching everyone smash into the wall. XD

Nice, very helpful!

This kind of explain a lot of things why I was struggling to play NF after CTR a while back. None of my jumps and coordination were working so I assumed or guessed I forgotten everything CTR even though I mastered the game well on beginner mode and played casually. Still trying to figure out, whether a technique I figured out, which also known long before within the community, was I always using airbrake or u-turn and why I cant use either effectively or fast enough (I would jump then briefly brake mid-air for high-speed mid-air tight-jumps.).

I miss some of the unintended shortcuts they patched out. :( ah well, made sense to patch them.

Thanks for the video ! i KNEW something's off xD

I hope they can improve a lot of that stuff, Beenox really seems to care about the game and it's listening to the fans Plus, Blue flames are way more fun to use than USF

I miss the wall sliding from the original ;-; I've also noticed the little jumps you can do on Oxide Station, at the area where you jump through space, I used to be able to get extra jump boosts between the boost ramps.

That was all the information I was looking for.

THX buddy! finally someone said it in the video! hate these physics .. really anoying sometimes

It's nice to see and learn about this situation. It bothered me a lot when the game was new but I think everyone was just excited for the game and ignored problems.

I thought I was taking crazy pills but now I can see it isn't the same as OG CTR

came from *ahmed jeflump* great video, now i will cry my moves ruined

Great video, you really did your research.

Great video.

I hope we're vocal enough to where the devs will notice and acknowledge in fixing the problems presented in this video. Nice job highlighting most of the key issues, I don't want to sound mean or anything but can you speak up a bit more because it's kinda hard to hear what you're saying.

Okay, so it wasn't just me then. Haha. It feels very similar but these tiny differences, especially Sewer Speedway is messing me up so much.

Hey man, would it be cool if I send this video to Activition? I think it would be a great test of some janky mechanics we've been trying to fix and you show it quite well. Also great video keep up the great work