Cundy & O'Hara CLASH Over Whether Harry Kane Should Be DROPPED for the Netherlands Match 

Criminal not to start Watkins or Toney

Southgate would not drop Kane, period. It’s obvious that Kane is either still injured or out of form, he has been piss poor during this tournament and yet Tony and Watkins still won’t get a sniff!

Kane moves around as if his feet are in concrete, start with Toney

Media and people need to stop this nonsense of Harry Kane might be injured etc. Harry Kane is fit, it is just that Kane is just that SLOW; Kane keeps dropping back to get involved because he knows he CAN’T run in behind defenders or the channels.

I watched Kane very closely I like to watch strikers movement etc. Kane had cement in his boots 🥾 never ran for a ball walked around the pitch disaster.

English pundits will slam Portugal for not dropping Ronaldo then refuse to think of Kane being dropped

Its no different to Ronaldo with Portugal He should step aside

In his current form / fitness Kane is not going to trouble Van Dijk

Ronaldo did nothing for Portugal, pick players on performance not reputation! Start Toney please Gareth 👍

Kane played 5 , pi** poor for all 5.

Watkins upfront and Gordon on the left.

Jason mate, we're only in the semis because of a moment of brilliance from arguably the best midfielder on the planet. Not because of Southgate. If England are to win this tournament, it will be in despite of him, not because of him. And everyone knows this.

We all knew these two was bang on the sniff, the live vids on RU-vid proved it! Cundy sweating buckets and chewing his face off, he could barely even speak yesterday 😂😂😂

kane is fit. he has been moving like that for 2-3 years. remember when rooney was 29-30 and moved like 35? it’s happening with kane right now. they both stubbornly started to come in deep because they know they werent affecting the game further anymore. just like rooney was, unless he’s unmarked kane wouldnt score. physically finished.

I agree with O'Hara, not won anything, and apart from France in 2018 the winning teams have not been great at all. So England with the squad they had the for last 4-6 years should have done better !!

Why doesn't Kane man up and drop himself for the team

Play harry kane in his usual position along side konsa and stones to make that 3 at the back It worked better than a flat back 4

Watkins should start the game, Toney should end the game

at this point no one other than Kane can prove they can do it BECAUSE no one other than Kane gets a chance. its the main reason that Southgate does this. He is absolutely terrified that in Toney plays and kills it he will have been wrong for years

England fans are the Harry Kane’s of supporters.

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They are looking at it the wrong way. You have to look at the opposition aswell. Van Dijk is going to eat Kane alive…that is a fact.

"He's done a good job". He hasn't done a good job. We are getting next to no shots on target. He is sluggish and has poor movement and poor postioning. In the last match Saka put a brilliant cross in across the goal mouth and Kane was jogging into the box, 10 yards behind where he should have been to attack the ball. It's not a bad thing to remind a player who isn't performing that there are others who can play instead.

Bring him on later in the game he’ll be more effective used that way

I think that there is something wrong with Harry , he looks very tired but again they do not get a decent rest period , after this it’s pre season around the world then off they go again , they need some rest

Kane's allergic to winning trophies, he'd have missed his penalty he needs dropping for both semi and final. It'll be the difference of us losing and winning.

Ollie Watkins getting in behind is the answer for the Bellingham Foden debate

Always a weak excuse when it comes to Harold Kane. Dude gets a free pass at all times no matter what.

Unbelievable how Watkins never enters these conversations. Can’t get my head around it

Doesn't matter who will be dropped or popped harry kane or sugar kane. Netherlands has a straight plan A, B, C and D. If turkey would have played against england turkey would won. Wednesday will be a game of 90 minutes without lotery of penalty kicks against the stiff upper or under lips.

Imagine O'Hara as a Tottenham fan calling out Southgate for not winning trophies, mad😂😂

I would probably agree with this argument if it was coming from someone else but this is the same person that was talking about Saka looking "leggy" & how he shouldn't start.

Southgate won't make much changes. You all know the most he is going to do is put Guehi back in and keep the same formation used on Sat. He is a safety first coach.

Start Toney

Against Switzerland, Kane's heat map was deeper the Rice's. He's supposed to be the number 9!! I'd start Watkins. Defenders hate pace.

Free Watkins…..

Just look at Harry's stats this tournament he has been shocking, he's hardly moved on the heat map, made no dribbles with the ball, no attempts on target etc etc he has been terrible and now isn't the time for sentiment and captain badge the country is more important he needs dropping for toney 100!!

The only credit Southgate deserves is how he’s brought the team together and the bonds between the players, there more of a team than I’ve ever seen in the last 30 years, but every think else he’s miles off, tactically shocking the teams got not identity or style of play

I dont understand the fact that people would batter Arteta for finishing 2nd twice and then say Southgate did a great job because he reached semi...... At the end of the day they won nothing

Its not just Kane that's the problem. No one runs in behind which makes it worse. Tripper foden Billingham walker never nake runs in behind. only 1 that runs in behind is saka but he's too easy to pick up if its just one runner

He will pick same team as before. The dutch know what's coming, they will put one on us unless we win the midfield

Kane is a bang average striker.

Cmon Cundy... Greaves was arguably your best striker at the time and guess what he was dropped in England’s first and only trophy in history. Sit down! Harry Kane should be dropped, he has done nothing!

Starting Kane will be a huge mistake …… Kane will not give the Dutch defence any issues or problems… Light work for Van Dijk if Kane starts Difficult match if Watkins or Toney start….. Watkins for me, everything starts from the front line… aggressive, pressing, running in behind, properly leading the line, hounding the oppositions defenders, terrorising them, not giving them a second to breath….. Kane starts, you get none of the above.

Toney hasn't proved?? He hasn't been given a chance ya pleb, what you on about 😅

Put ivan toney in. England will play either france or Spain.

Dont forget the Euros was basically a Home tournament but the media never say that one game played out of Wembley

He's not fit? He's overrated asf 😂

People acting like Toney and Watkins are half the player Kane is. I get he’s carrying a knock but if he’s fit he is 10x the player those two are. Scored FIFTY goals in Germany this season. Englands all time record goal scorer. He can clearly play better but if he gets the ball in dangerous positions, Kane is lethal.

Kane isnt fit...simple

The fact is the players need to take some ownership of their own greatness. To be a champion u need to wake up and KNOW you will win. This team doesn't have that winners mentality and they should. The talent is immense. If these players decided they wanted to win this tournament they could in spite of anything Southgate does or doesn't do

Start Watkins bring on toney and Kane

These two change their opinions on a daily basis, big time hypocrites

Van dijk was troubled by Yilmaz's pace. Put on Watkins.

Midfield not doing Kane any favours

I'm totally with Jamie here, Cundy's attitude with playing Kane no matter what is why England have never won anything under Southgate. The credit for getting this far is with the players, not the coach.

As much as the media might try, there isn’t much debate. Regardless of how you might feel, Kane will start and the Southgate won’t change anything. England are winning games. That’s really all that matters

I agree with Jamie O'Hara. Kane should come on late, Toney should start. Southgate will not change anything. Guehi will come back, Mainoo will start and Shaw is a question mark. I cannot see Southgate making huge changes in a semi-final.

Play Toney for the first 60 minutes then bring on Kane when the defenders are tired.

It was not Southgates fault that 3 players missed a PK in the Euro finals

Cant understand why he keeps dropping deep with foden and bellingham behind him

Kane is for England like Ronaldo is for Portugal. The weakest link. Time to step aside.

spot on j , kanes the problem, and safegate, we wont win with him

Watkins is the top goalscorer and assister in the PL not including pens and he hasnt had a sniff

Context. Imagine this lot against that ,2002 Brazil side where we lost in the quarters. Instead of losing 2-1 we'd have lost 8-0. Can't just say yay 3 semis with no context. Also, semis isn't success - just highlights we can't beat better teams when it matters

why would you want kane in a tournament like this? surely watkins and toney are dying to get on the pitch to show what they can do. That competition between players should be used for the benefit of the team

Jamie ohara hahaha Even a dog doesn't know that he was a footballer but he talks as if he was a legend as a pleyer These so called English pundits have crossed all the arrogance levels

Absolutely agree with Jamie - Bent is also in the Kane in camp - even claiming people don’t like him. Sick of hearing the same drivel that Kane has done this or that, he has goals in him, blah blah blah He is having a mare & there are other strikers in the squad. Can’t keep picking players because of what they HAVE done. It’s about what they ARE doing, which for him is nothing. If it was Toney or Watkins they’d be dropped. How can you say Toney hasn’t proved he can do it. When was he given the chance.

Never drop your main goal scorer....can put watkins or toney alongside him.

It’s the reason we are not scoring. Need someone up front with pace.

Kane does an unjustice to himself, wanting to play everywhere instead of playing his role upfront. He uses more stamina, and obviously looks zapped at the end of games.

This is where dominance is started from England on the international stage for a lot of times to come!

idk if southgate deserves praise for reaching two semis with the team he has. ur in it to win not just do good so if u as an england fan see a problem, it is ok to keep mentioning it until it is fixed. u don't get an award for reaching the semis and southgate did not develop those england players. if anything, other than this tournament, he's been notorious for selecting the wrong players and leaving out proper talent but still has a good enough team to reach multiple ko stages. england is the only country I've seen praise a negative manager for something that is expected of him

Cundy should dust his boots off, he's the best defender Southgates ever had. And of course Kane won't be dropped, that would take a brave decision which Safegate doesn't have in him

With O’Hara on this 1 bring Kane on with 30 to go,an it would send a message to the squad in a semi final to kick on!!

Come on Ingerland. Score some facking goals.

It’s nonsense…If he’s not fit he should not play…if he is fit, he does not serve this team so well with his skill set… if he is “undroppable” even when he is giving less than 5 of 10 how can anyone in England criticize Cristiano Ronaldo

So southgate has beaten one decent team in eight years, he's a genius 😊

Come on Cundy- 4 quarters & 3 semis mean f**k all if you don’t win anything.

Watkins did well when he came on too. Seems to be all forgotten.

How are they talking about Kane and toney …. Best English striker in the prem last season was Watkins

If England were a CLUB team, Southgarte would not be in a job. I think people need to raise their standards higher and not just be happy with 'improvement'. We rant about our premier league being the best but what good is it if as a nation we can't win anything?

English hipe on Harry kane should be judge on last game not on his trophyless career

Capita assessed him and offered him a free mobility scooter

Oh so now cundy understands it’s easier to come off the bench when legs are tired in his defence of Kane retaining his place over Toney. That logic didn’t apply when he was pushing for saka to come out of the team for palmer.

Its mad that saka had an average game with a nice goal and he's being bigged up as a world beat again

He is England's Ronaldo...he will Never be benched.

He's gohsted the entire tournament. Kane and Tripper should not be starting! I would start Watkins to stretch the defence.

Spain manage with morata and kane is very similar...

Cundy this is the problem with your analysis I hear you but not has done good and Kane has lost his ability to stay up front. He hides in midfield and not in the the box where we need him. It is about winning not come out of the final losing.

Kane should have been dropped over a year ago, just review his performances out of 10 for England. Yes he scores the odd goal against inferior sides but has never put a shift in lead by example as England Captain!!

Jason struggling through that opening erm, statement, trying to make a case for Kane... dude has zero accountability or humility. "Toney hasn't proven..." you can only prove something when given the chance to, you lemon

Kane will actually be the reason why we will score one or none, and exit. He's fallen off a cliff, his class HAS gone. Politically, the best hedge is to play Watkins instead of Foden in that left channel, supporting Kane. As Emery got him doing well for Villa. Solves two problems. But, because of caution, clichés and vile press and fans, GS will play the status quo.

The PLAYERS deserve praised for getting to the semis DESPITE the poor management from Gareth Southgate.

I’m sorry but if we win this tournament having drawn almost every game, scored hardly any goals, had a handful of shots on target! Poor performances from players that could have been dropped for equally as talented ones, then no I don’t want us to win it. Not like that! ! it’s just terrible

With Southgate, England playing to not lose. Netherlands playing with passion and to win. Big difference.

Sorry too much on reputation and NOT on form, poor management !

If he starts Kane he won’t take him off any earlier than the 80th minute. Start Toney then he will sub him on 60 minutes.

West Ham caller typical 😂

Here’s to the runners-runners up 😂😂😂😂😂😂