Customer SCHOOLS Car Dealer & Saves $1,000s | MUST WATCH Before Buying a Car | Part 2 

just watching this, i want to back out buying my reserved car thats coming next month. :(

I must say this was great, I hope you guys keep bringing videos that simulate a dealership like this weekly or monthly because these are very nice. Matter of fact I was like 20 minutes into the video and I actually forgot I’m actually watching YAA, I really thought I was watching a dealership. This is addicting. Please make these dealership simulations weekly or monthly. This is awesome. It also prepares me for when I have to walk into a dealer ever! 👌👌👌💯💯💯💯💪💪💪🇺🇸 YAA to the rescue, shoutout to Ray and Zach! By the way I still need to see what you guys have for extended warranties for my 2018 Audi RS3 with 20k miles mint condition. 👌👌👌💯💯💯🇺🇸🇺🇸💪💰

I’m in Ventnor Too “ 👍👍✡️

Your negotiating skills are horrible

5:27 😭🤣😂 yall have met your match

Right it shouldn’t be that hard to buy a car, these dealerships be getting over on people

Even though Elon Musk can raise prices as he wants (just like factory MSRPs), Tesla selling process should be an example to ALL car makers. You pick everything over the computer, arrive and drive!

@@oliver.79 he does raise prices but they let everyone know and it’s not astronomical.

Tesla is constantly raising prices based on demand for their product. Getting rid of dealerships doesnt mean you will save a lot of money.

@@briangasser973 It's not even about saving money. Buying a car should just be like buying anything else. There is a price set and you agree to pay it. End of discussion. Having to deal with finance managers trying to nickel and dime you to death is annoying, unnecessary, and takes advantage of those less informed.

Haha absolutely accurate

Sounds like u were never willing to walk away. Wanted the vehicle too much.

Lmao the walk looool

Lmfao the best part is when they bring other people in to persuade you...

😂😂😂So true, the 283 times!!!

Hilarious!!!

facts !!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

LMAOO

Also go on the last day of the month. They want to get that last sale! Haha

I’ve tried that and it seems like they don’t want to deal with you later in the day because they know they are going to be there late and want to leave on time…

I’m in car sales not all dealerships and sales people are creeps. Some definitely are. We are human beings if a person is respectful and reasonable I will go above and beyond for them. People talk a lot about how sales people are scumbags I can tell you the way that customers walk in and treat sales people 50% of the time it’s so obnoxious disrespectful and rude that a good sales person at a good dealership like where I work will simply tell them we’re not the right place for them to buy and have a nice day and if this is the way they’re going to behave themselves, please do not come back, I don’t agree that coming in super late he’s going to get you a better deal than most people want to go home to their wives, the kids and get some rest generally speaking I would be a lot more dismissive and less willing to do anything except forgive the bottom line, and if somebody wanted to pay it fine But I’m not going to invest 15 minutes before closing just like anything. If you don’t play games you’re not going to have to deal with all this nonsense that people are talking about being upfront about your credit is very important because it makes absolutely no sense to spend hours looking at a car when you have no ability to buy it but if you’re upfront and honest, sometimes running someone’s credit in the beginning, really helps me to find a car that will work for them. Lending criteria is very different for poor credit versus good credit, I think I’m more important question is asking the sales person. Do you make a commission on the front and gross if that’s the case she does have a motive to try to get you to pay as much as possible for the car if he’s being paid on units it doesn’t matter what you pay for the car because the unit is a unit the more cars they sell the greater the commission because on each car, just be kind and polite people will go the extra mile for you especially when most people are total jerks, entitled, and demand unreasonable things and then complain when they’re not given what they want. It is a buyers market right now it’s a great time to buy a used car values are back to reality and a new car. It’s also a great time you would be able to buy below MSRP in most cases if someone’s trying to sell above MSRP you don’t have to buy that car there are other dealers that will tell you the same car without thousands of dollars of tacked on fees

Forgive my spelling, I will speak texting. Hopefully you got the point 😂

@@MrGameNfit So, maybe I’m way off base here, but I’m thinking that salespersons would be motivated to make a sale AND go home early just before a holiday weekend, or their own vacations, and there could be other occasions equally applicable… Just saying…

Lol ... they can. I never let that happened. Cause I knew what I wanted knew what was needed. How much is my time is worth. Is the question. Not going too stop for a few hundred dollars, but that’s me. I was IN AND OUT IN 30 min.

I am looking for a new car and straight up I’m letting the salesman to not even bother with asking … show me the % rate,, lets talk about it and done…

At some dealerships if you don't play the game they will hold the line on the total price. One way or another there is a margin they want to get to. Sometimes you can find a salesman who understands that you are looking for a total price and if they can agree then they get to go out and sell another car that day. I've even emailed one saying listen this is my price, if you can do it I'll come in first thing while you're standing around waiting for the first customers. You start your day with a sale done. Many refused but finally one took it. Finance still tried to pull all these stunts though.

@@SpaceShotit’s insane I just want to order online at this point

It’s really a moot point if you get the OTD cost and you then pay cash or have other financing lined up..there is literally nothing finance can do after that.

ahahahaha mentally exhausted 🤣🤣🤣🤣 im dead

I went to a Toyota dealer with my little sister after watching this video. Went into finance. Told her I understand how it all worked and that we were just not interested. "My sister is buying a 13,000$ used car, and find's the risk acceptable of not having GAP or extended warranties." She started yelling at us and calling me rude. Basically shrieking. Another worker came and grabbed us, apologized. We finished the deal and quickly left.

You should’ve gotten GAP

you can get gap for significantly less from your insurance company

You seriously!??? WTF​@@jmo82592

😂😂😂😂😂

That booger hanging on the side of her nose is distracting and ugly.

That guy in the corner 😁

New car dealers play this game not used car dealers!

Totally agree with you 😂

now u talkin, this and other videos jus turned me off...

100%

for people that typically avoid confrontation it can be really a stressful process. THis video the salesman is very polite and sensible, Ive experienced far more pushy and swindling car salesmen and finance managers, when buying a car

My favorite is when they try to get you to say how much you want your payment per month to be. Similar to his question about her budget. You mean I can actually get the monthly payment I want? Sure, but you have to add a year to your loan term.

Funny you say that. What I've noticed over the years is that everything the customers says about a salesperson, you know, liars, scumbags, slinky, actually applies to the buyer. If your mouth is moving you're lying. You say you don't want to play games but it's exactly what you do. You walk in looking for ways to show your ass. This video is a parody.

It’s not honest to me. I wouldn’t hire an idiot like that to ruin my customers. I see this and have to fight this stigma all day when my dealer does things different

There are a lot of dealerships who are honest and try to build relationships with the customer. You do know you can shop around to different dealers before buying. This is just a dumb roll play that is not indicative of all real life situations and guarenteed it is set up with a bias.

​@@corail53it's showing you dealer tactics to get you to spend more, and what you can do to push back.

They can't hate you too much, if your driving out of the lot with the car then they made a profit! 20% off is no joke tho, well played. What car did you purchase?

@@Sk0dienot necessarily true. dealerships sell cars at a loss all the time just to get them off the lot

@@whatintarnation4969 I did not know that. I don't know if that is common pratice in my country tho, but I could be wrong.

They also had the option of just telling you to piss off. Just because you walk in doesnt mean they have to sell you anything.

Sorry to tell you but, if you accepted an extended warranty, the Fin guy actually won. He probably walked out looking defeated to make you think you won.

The only extra you should get is GAP 100%

​@@TheVoidMMAYeah...gap coverage in this market is a must on anything new

Not even you can get in touch with your insurance provider and get coverage immediately usually.​@@TheVoidMMA

I’m a true believer in extended warranties on used cars. The jeep Cherokee I bought in 2016 cost $2500 and I had $18,000 worth of covered work. It was a mess. The Kia Sorento that I bought in 2021 cost me $1500 and paid for $15,000 worth of repairs. Both vehicles were less than four years old and had 30k miles on them when I bought them.

same lol. especially with the thud that giant book made when she put it on the desk

Hey man question, at what point did you bring up that you were paying cash? Or did you not mention it at all?

@@Archt1cStreams I never mentioned it. Part of them lowering the price of the car included me agreeing that I would finance with them. So I did finance it with them. I accepted their horrible 8% interest rate, then I paid the car off before my first payment was due. I think there was about ~$130 worth of loan origination fees I had to pay also when I paid it off. But I never lied about how I was paying nor did I mention I was paying with cash. If they know you are paying in cash they will not reduce the price of the car near as much as they would if you are financing it with them.

​@@Archt1cStreams I never mentioned it. Part of the terms of them lowering the price of the car $2K was me agreeing to finance with them so I did. I agreed to their extremely high 8% interest rate then I paid the car off before my first payment. I paid an extra ~$130 in loan origination fees to when I paid it off. If they know you are paying cash they will not negotiate the price of the car near as low as they would if you finance with them.

watching other car edge videos, i learn that you shouldn't ever tell them you're paying in cash, but get a loan for maybe car price - small fown payment. Then pay that loan off with the cash you have

Not sure why my reply got deleted. Never tell them you have cash. I recommend financing with the dealer to get the best deal you can get on the price of the car (if you finance with them they will go lower on the out tye door price). Then, pay the loan off in full when your first payment is due.

Right. The dealers go away, then you pay MSRP on everything. And when you have a problem with your new car, you can call the manufacturer direct and wait on hold for 5 hours.

@@bbeach117Its better than being scammed for THOUSANDS of dollars. A lot of ppl aren’t knowledgeable or emotionally equipped to deal with salespersons. That doesn’t mean they deserve to be taken advantage of. 🙄

@@bbeach117tesla has service centers and show rooms. They just got rid of the absolutely shit buying process.

Well it's the job. Sell it as high as you can. And they get paid incentives. Negotiating is a skill that helps level the playing field.

@@bbeach117 What's wrong with paying MSRP? Give me a fixed price and I won't bother negotiating - I don't mind letting someone have their fair profit off a deal I just don't want to deal with such a scummy, opaque process.

The only hard part is staying awake until it's your turn to say "no thanks". I thought that was pretty clear in the video. "Just say "no".

So, so, SOOO painful. God give me another root canal before having to do this shit.

@@gund2281 yep root canal is a breeze😎

Shouldn’t have to spend hours to buy a vehicle.

Yes, I hate the process!

As the salesman walked away: "Does this mean we're not friends anymore? " 😂😂😂

Omg do they really think people believe that shit?

Well I'm not in vehicle sales, but I definitely would rather not make a sale than make an enemy...

Much like a cop saying "I'm trying to help you out here". With a straight face?

I fell for “you remind me of my son”

Very helpful video

Right! I'm sitting here trying to watch and take notes on all these videos and just when I feel like I got it. I don't. I hope to have her level of poise and confidence when walking into a car delearship!

I disagree. Customer can be prepared if he/she is willing to spend some time on the internet.

Not true! It's how I purchase vehicles for myself and others.

That's never going to happen but the more informed a consumer is the better deal they will get. I've walked out of more negotiations than I can even count. Be firm

@@leecox1513 ​ ​ Customer _can_ prepare but should they have to? I think Hashim is suggesting the entire system is broken and should change. Dealerships were created to prevent manufacturers from screwing over buyers but, ironically, the can was just kicked down the curb and now dealerships are the ones screwing people over. You can’t deny it’s a predatory business by nature. That’s not something to be seen as endearing.

At the end of the day dealerships are making hundreds of thousands of dollars just from using these tactics, so you can bet they aren’t gonna change anytime soon

I hear you. Thanks for sharing. As an ex salesman, myself, I feel like I can somewhat empathize with both salespeople and customers. One interesting thought that I had, reading your comment, is that we go to the grocery store and we pay 100% markup, or 50% profit, on our meat, and we don't blink an eye. On the other hand, we go to the dealership, and desire to pay as close to zero profit on our cars. They don't own their cars, most of them. They have bought their inventory on credit and are paying thousands a day in interest, whether they open the doors or not. While I agree that fear and anxiety and advantage are terrible parts of many people's experience in purchasing a car from a dealer, I'm neither convinced that it has to be, nor should we be upset when a dealership makes profit. I suppose I find it hard to define if and what "too much" profit is, though.

​@@levibeckman😅

@@levibeckmanha! I heard this analogy from another car saleswoman the other day. I would rebute this false analogy by first, pointing out the stark difference between used and new products. New products have predictably fixed costs. Used products do not. Additionally, used products add new variables to the listing price (longevity, usage, wear, maintenance cost, etc). New products are mass produced and sold with the same exact value at purchase for the most part. Perishable goods are subject to discounts for example.

@@levibeckmantransparency is the key to honest sales. Buyers want to see numbers. Buyers want to see what they’re paying for. Buyers are more than willing to pay the profit amount, given the sale is honest and transparent. Let’s see the trade-in cost of the vehicle, all overhead costs, repair costs, and profit. Then the buyer can identify the deceptive inflated amount remaining.

​@@levibeckmanCome on, dude. The meat market tells you exactly what the price is up front, not "only 72 easy payments of 2.99!" And there's thousands of dollars difference between an equal percentage markup on meat or whatever vs a car. These sales/finance tactics are trying to pull thousands of extra dollars from the customer, not because they offer value, but because they can often bully or pressure the customer into it and they know it.

I wouldn't try to shake their hand anyway. A handshake is a symbol of trust and mutual respect. I really try to not be judgmental, but a simple fact remains.. People who make a living inside of a system diametrically opposed to their own customer... I have nothing in common with them. I'll shake hands if they offer for the purposes of good etiquette, but deep down I think we both know we are nothing alike.

Ditto

You have to go in there with your numbers in ordered. I bought my car in 2019, so it was easier and cheaper They wanted $11,990 plus tax, fees, and addons. So it was $16,xxx. I told them I’d pay 12,000 out the door and at 3%. We went back and forth to 12,100 with tax and title at 2.79%. They kept saying. So your gonna walk away b/c of $1000, $500, $400, $200. I just said yes, yes, and that I didn’t need the car, and that I drove in with a perfectly fine car.

@@chaselesser3191 I feel that it's important to walk away from cars. That tells you you are not overpaying. Eventually you will find the price and car.

I also feel it's important if they are guilting or you feel any pressure, walk out. A happy car dealership is one that made to much off you. I've bought 11 cars and I'm always overly polite and always on my way out the door. They always cut the shit right away. When a closer at a toyota dealership was beating me mentally, I told him I was leaving. And I did. Half way through the deal.

It doesn't work on skilled salesman 😂😂🤣🤣

That’s because they were filming and they know it’s a somewhat of a phony deal. In real life they get rude when you take away from their paycheck lol

She did not play a great negotiator, Ray played a weak negotiator

Similar story here bought a WRX and let the snakes battle it out while I sat waiting for their email. 🎉🎉🎉

Soo, I'm looking at a used vehicle and wonder what "reasonable" profit would be? I have estimated what the dealer has paid at auction, but I need a clear profit figure . . .

care to share this email on here ?? obviously no personal info... but id love to have some sort of template..

How do we find out what the dealer paid for the car?

Lmk if you find out ​@@lbs2821

Lol...that would be hilarious!

Lmao, please

I like how you think!!! 👏

Are you saying that other professions you mentioned are free from this type of disingenuous behavior? The car dealerships are guilty to be sure, but you cannot see the same thing is happening at your doctor's office, chiropractor, eye doctor, dentist, pediatrician, realtor, city garbage collection, etc...are just as bad if not worse? The only difference is you get to negotiate with the car dealers, the others demand a specific % payment or even worse unspecified funds... At least the car dealer scumbags tell you what they want you to pay and it can be negotiated. The others mentioned mask payments, encourage greed, and support the absolute strip mining of the american middle class wealth. Car dealers are hated for their confrontation and selling at every possible moment, fine, it is well deserved. The others mentioned don't allow or discuss options for anything - they are the experts, just "trust them." No wonder realtors, city politicians, and the health care elite are so rich. They are worse.

EVER??? Lmao wtf you must watch dumb ass shit 🤣🤣🤣

She should just tell her she doesn't want any of those extra things. Goodbye

@@connie3312 ???

@@connie3312 She’d probably be thrilled for you to leave, Connie.

Why is making a profit a rip off? Should dealers ask the customer how much profit they should make on them? What do you do for a living? If you're jobs pays you a wage or salary, your employer is making huge profits on its customers? Is your job guilty of ripping off people as well? They're how you reinvest in the business, hire people, pay bills... it's Capitalism. No one holding a gun to anyone's head

That's dumb. So you're going to decline coverage on your car?

Houses are more expensive too bud. Care to look?

That same house you bought has likely quadrupled in value as well hasn’t it? Try to buy a similar house today that isn’t a disaster or crackhouse and not in a bad neighborhood for under $200k. Also, a new car today has a lot more going on than just a radio and a cigarette lighter.

yep and they all break much more easily, so why would you pay for it@@FlipBoxStudio

And that’s when she was shown the door

My favorite part too

@@mymingyen and went to another dealership that was willing to play along properly

You want to play along and finance the car because you'll get a better out the door price. Once the deal is done, just pay off the car note immediately.

How did it go?

and what's that gonna do? leave without buying a car? that finance manager weak as he'll. she didn't build any value in the product, she didn't cross shop warranties, she just straight went to discounts.

@@stevornrichards1380 it's also a demonstration, so you can't expect them to show all that, it was already about 30 minutes.

Haha well, at the very least, you'll give them a reason to place an order during this shortage, get the order filled, and allow a vehicle to hit their lot that's not yet sold. I'd actually love for someone to do this at my dealership right now. Right now our OEM is only fulfilling ordered vehicles and you walking out would allow me to get car at least. 😂

Indeed

@@stevornrichards1380 this entire video was weak

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@@litapyaja This is why people go to Carvana, Carmax, etc. And I sure hope everyone knows to get your own financing.

Agree, it is absolutely soul sucking.

I joke with people, but it’s actually true…when it’s time to go car shopping, before I walk out the door, I take two Tylenol for the headache I’m going to start having the minute I step foot on the lot.

The buying process is honestly the reason why I'm still driving the same Toyota I bought back in 2003!

Well he spent 40 years as a car salesman.

@@Noxlion28 Didn’t know that at the time. Thanks…

It's called the Dealer Reserve

hey good information

Correct! Always negotiate a CASH price (dealers hate it because they can't make any interest when the customer uses an outside loan source).

@@leecox1513 not in this market anymore unfortunately. Most dealers not taking any loser deals these days

@@leecox1513 "Dealers hate it". Negotiating on a cash price isn't beneficial to you simply because "dealers hate it". It actually makes it so you get less of a deal. You're taking money off the table for them by paying cash. Negotiate on a cash price, sure, but make sure you ask them about the hidden cash back incentive if you finance it and pay it off shortly after to avoid the interest. It works. You get a chunk of their bank reserve, they recoup the discount they gave on the msrp. Win win for both of you.

I got gap and a lower interest rate through my car insurance company, state farm

Wow this makes me nervous. Did you find a dealer that did do a deal with you?

Yea... I was actually pondering if I could get one of my attorney friends to go with me - and we could "consult" when countering... (at least one or two attorney friends might be willing to give up a Saturday for 4-5 cases of beer, lol)

He's right. You made it harder for them to help you. Dealers are trying to figure your budget to help show you the car for your budget 🤦‍♂️ all you did was hurt yourself.

@@tableround3019 what they gone do?😂😂🤣🤣

@@deniseg875 Closest I got was a second VW dealer who had a similar car. Again, he said he could probably do the deal. Then the sales manager came in and said no. I didn't know this was a common occurrence, but maybe it was part of the game they play. I walked. They called me back a few days later almost at my price, but I still said no because my wife and I had decided to get a different car by that point. We got a Jeep Grand Cherokee and I basically did the same thing - said this is what I want to pay, can you do it? Sales guy said sure, sales manager said sure. Well, close enough - they asked for $200 more on a $50K car and I was fine with that. I also did finance with them and then re-financed six months later. The only difference I can think of is they had 20 of the same car as the one I wanted on the lot.

The wife says that I'm mean to the car sales guys.

It could be that you come in to the deal looking for a fight. I do. I go into the deal swinging. Which the salesperson reacts by swinging back. Very little nicety in the opening remarks. I remember a time when the salesperson said he needed to talk to the sales manger and as he was walking to the back, my family and I started to walk out the door. He saw this and yelled “where you going?” Everybody in the show room heard it. I replied “I going to eat lunch so you and your manger can talk as long as you want. Ill be back.” That must have been a knockout punch because the Salesperson agreed to the deal without talking to the sales manager. Not saying I got a good deal just the deal I wanted. The salesperson seemed irritated afterwards.

@@CeasarBergonia I don't I usually go in saying "I want X car, I know you have it cause we already emailed about it and I already have my financing" if that is coming looking for a fight then dealerships really need to disapear.

@@CeasarBergonia it's cause if a customer leaves on the sales person without the manager knowing ahead of time, then he/ she can likely get fired, no joke.

@@MR3DDev I was talking about during the deal. When Im just looking and test driving, everything is cordial. It’s when I sit down for the “deal” is when I try to land the first blow. I.e get straight to the point, no need for back and forth. However, I never bought a car because I needed to. So being able to walk away was easy.

You will never be sold a car

Might be worth the extra cost

Lol

Haha 😄 good one

@@tylerdickson7599why

Bro i got a 782 and they were trying to give me 6.24 like wtf... i didnt buy the car but will prob go monday to re negotiate

@@omgshad0w find another car, they clearly don't care about your business.

@@kkellerk23 yea after thinking about it I decided to just go with another car. In the end wasn't feeling auto

3.4 is still pretty high unless it was a used car. I was getting buy rates of 1.79 for well qualified buyers back when I worked in F&I (I never gave anyone that rate I’d always mark it up a bit since even with markup it’s still competitive) but you’d be surprised how low rates can really go if you know how to push

@@greenwhale6191 it was a used truck 2018

Me too same time frame

I am fixing to buy one for my son going to college don't want to get fuck. How did yall did. Have 5 months to shop.

Be willing to walk. Don’t get emotional. Use dealers against each other. You got this.

10-month check-in. How'd it go?

I use to point at the MSRP price and said I want that as the out of door price. Not sure if that is good technique or what.

These videos do not work on skilled salesman. I had someone try it on me today. Still sold them 1k above asking. Again these do not work. You need ametures.

@@dariuskirk6135 LOL, I walked away from 5 places and finally secured a deal lower than I expected. My dad taught me one thing in life which to never make a deal with the first person trying to sell you a common commodity. I felt that in person when I was sitting infronto of the 5th dealer with a smile in face and ready to walk off again and he knew that, looking at my eyes. He made the deal, right away being the senior sales manager and even gave me 4.5% with a 681 credit score of mine. And yes, it was a Toyota Dealer and I bought the 2023 Rav4 Hybrid Le for 28.3k. LoL, 😂, people like you can't even get a chance to try me out cause I'll walk out and I don't care your bullcrap respect and shit, LOL

@@blackened1031 good for you. That’s one of the cars I’m looking at. How do you like it?

@@dariuskirk6135 And when I see a stingy salesman like that, I just walk out. They're not the only show in town.

@@adusumir you'll never see it on a skilled salesman. We're not stingy. We'll never appear needy nor selfish.

How does that work without seeing your vehicle or taking it for a test drive before buying?

@@sarawright6781 I don't try out toasters before I buy them. Or lawnmowers. Or virtually anything else. Almost everything I need to know about a vehicle I know before sitting behind the wheel.

Sadly this will never be the case with used cars, unless the customer is ok paying thousands above retail with Carvana, CarMax, Vroom, etc.

@@mswwalker12345 well sir you are not very clever...a toaster and a car are 2 different things. thats why the toaster is $20 and a car is $20,000...missing a couple zeros there buddy

Me too. I really hope they produce more of these. This made me feel so confident going into a dealership. A few years ago I walked into a dealership and I got completely had. Not this time! This is a very well put together video.

Except that it’s fictional and written from a perspective of an audience that wants to see the dealer lose the “fight”. Your joy at watching this brings you back for more revenge-porn videos and drives up their RU-vid ad sales. This guy went from scamming car buyers to selling relief from car buying anxiety to the folks who he helped give anxiety to as a salesman.

No dealership will sell you car less than MSRP especially in this market right now. That’s why if you want pay less,then get a cheaper car.

Too long of a video, easiest thing people need to know is anything the dealer/finance person wants to sell you is pure profit for the dealer, it’s all marked up 50+%, and a lot of them you’ll NEVER use. Just say no when you get in the finance office. Are people really dumb enough to pay $500 IN CASE they lose a key or $1000 IN CASE they bust a tire?!? And this girl was soooo worried about saving money but “hypothetically” agrees to $600 from the dealer for GAP coverage when she supposedly had another company that would for it for $400!!!

@@vegansoy damn that's deep

Don’t feel alone! I just went through this process two months ago and was totally bamboozled-i’m not a negotiator. And I think it’s written all over my face- my son just went through it a week ago and watched this video… he said they got him with the whole the market situation, not enough cars, everything is marked up…

This example shows research and planning before walking into a dealership are essential. You’re going to be taken advantage of otherwise.

The BMW dealership im buying from said if I cancel they can easily sell it for 5-8k over MSRP. I told them I won't be canceling unless they try and demand more than MSRP. They think since I put a despoit down, ill pay for it no matter what lol

If you make a deal over the phone, you need to ask for agreed price to be emailed to you, signed off on by the sales manager. If they reneg, post pictures online and blow them up, threaten to report them with evidence. Almost 100% of the time they will cave if you can prove they lied about pricing.

@@lovecheese45 you should threaten to report them to BMW for changing the price on a car ordered from the factory. If they give any pushback kindly remind them that your report could result in less car allocation to their dealership. After you get the car out the door for msrp, I would still report them, because they won’t stop scamming buyers.

Never go over MSRP even in this insane low supply market.

@Chase Kibodeaux sounds like something a car salesman/manager would say to justify a 10k markup.