Cyberpunk: Edgerunners is Peak Punk Anime 

“Punks not dead”- goichi suda

Is the RU-vidr Second-Thought Cyberpunk? I mean, that Guy sure criticizes and dissects the whole System. Im not just talking about the aptly-named video "Is the US a Dystopia?", but about the whole Channel. I mean, its his Thing to talk aobut Society and how it could be.

will she be able to slay the mighty google overlord i wonder.

Sex Pistols isn’t punk?

@@VlRGlL They are pretty punk and they did live up to the lifestyle it’s just that they became too main stream

I will tell this joke when I'm like 72 and people will be asking me "wth is a punk"? It'll be great.

I heard that story too, only difference being the final exchange goes "Is that punk?" "No, that's being a conformist."

As a writer, this is legitimately the first story I'm actually going to steal for myself and keep alive. Thanks man.

..You actually made me understand the point through a simple story. Amazing.

@@xkavarsmith9322 Playgirism 😭🌯🗿💀🌮🫴💀😭🤑💵🤡🌯😈🤑🌮🏃🏯👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨🦑

And the complete opposite of how people are remembered in Night City.

That went hard bro, got me tearing up like a bitch🤝

The City remembers David as a legendary Edgerunning Cyberpunk who kicked corpo butt and went out swinging. Lucy remembers David as a confused, scared, and lonely boy who she took under her wing on a train. Both are true of who David is, and yet neither are the full story of who he was. It's absolutely beautiful character writing and this anime blows me away.

Exactly. We don't even get to see his death. Therein is the implication that David is a better "human" than he is an "Edgerunner"/inhuman. We, the audience, are stripped of the possibility of remembering him by how he died.

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Dude came a long way in just 365 days. Lived too fast.

Ah yes. You being a dad was relevant here.

@@grilledleeks6514 it is because a child becoming an adult then dieing in the same year is a parent's worst nightmare

@@justsomeguywithaforeheadmu6209 Thank you sir. Look at your son. Look at the world. Think about tomorrow. That's what I was trying to get at. Glad somebody picked it up.

@@JustAJauneArc died too young

This is why you always complete the optional objectives to get the better endings in quests like these

This hurt to read

I didn't realize it, but when you lay it all out like that, damn. I just saw the most obvious one, him on top of the tower.

@@joey_youtube this show was so well done I can't listen to stay at your house without tearing up

I'd word that middle one a bit differently. He succeeded in leading the crew. But in leading them to their end (except kiwi she took care of that herself) Really basically the same end Maine lead them too... Only worse.

Wait I missed that joke. Where was it?

@@PlebNC when Main was going crazy after they messed up the Tanaka job and trying to move the body

@@aPimpNamedSlickback4484 don’t Rebecca an Falco also have one in the final shootout?

@@cristianl1516 not sure, If they did then that one slipped past me lol

@@PlebNC when main and his woman were fighting the cops before they died

Yes

This is facts

And every time it will make me tear up a bit.

It's one of Newton's laws, I am sure of it.

This is a fact. Did it myself hehe

she literally pops out of a vending machine......that scene is so fucked

The game has a subtle version of this in the first act, where an AI taxi tells you that your ride package includes free disposal of your remains should you die during the ride service. It's a small, almost comedic thing if everything else up to that point hadn't been warning you that life is cheap in this world.

There are still Funerals in Pondsmiths cyberpunk, its just burials that are uncommon in the mega cities. No replace to put the bodies and if you did the graverobbers would dive all over it.

There is also the small, almost comedic thing in the background of the game that literally has no influence on anything that matters to you, but is there: There is literally a lottery going where you can win money if you just guess the amount of people dying in a certain timespan (not quite clear what timespan, but it feels like your average weekly lottery) in the city. A bloody deadpool. And the numbers are usually in the triple digits, it seems.

@Peachiekeen within the last 6 minutes of the show

Same

It's fitting within the genre though. In cyberpunk, the whole world is incredibly bleak and you only survive with money or power. These Chooms had neither so no one survived.

@Peachiekeen true the last few minutes of the show made your heart stop beating

I'm glad that her final words were "FUCK YOU!"

The thing is that Becca's love for David in both a platonic and romantic fashion is so unconditional that it is down right the most virtuous thing in all of Night City, it is the kind of person anyone would want regardless of anything, someone who would be there for you when you need someone the most, she is not afraid to tell David that he is going down a bad path but is also willing to stay by his side in hopes that he will make the right decision with support, she is also able to realise the concept of "I don't care if they don't love me back, I just want them to be happy". It is true selflessness in a world where everything has a price, the fact that she is willing to jump into the fire to help David makes her fate hurt even more, the fact she knows when she can't help David herself and wants to get him to Lucy who knows might be able to actually do something is commendable.

she gets the biggest simp award

When David was taking about going to the top of the tower and Rebecca just going with it, man that scene really stuck to me

I think she's also one of the saddest cases of unrequited love in anime. Sure, it was only 10 episodes and there wasn't much development on that front, but it was quite clear what she felt for David. And in most anime the rejected girls are a great subject to make fun of because they were designed from the very beginning to play that role and are often pretty flat in the way they were written. Becca is her own character that just happened to fall fo David knowing he loves Lucy which wasn't a defining feature of her character, far from it actually. It was a pretty down to earth realistic depiction of this kind of situation. She focused on being the best goddamn friend that David could ever have and she succeeded in that. All of that makes it pretty sad she didn't get what she wanted.

@@ilo3456 You nailed it, man, fuck that would hurt if it was me. Seeing the person you love love someone else, I would do the same thing she did. I prefer my friend to be happy even if it’s not with me. Call me a cynic/simp; I wouldn’t care.🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Rebecca is indeed the GOAT, Ride or Die and Best girl!!!

Rebecca da goat 🐐

True that!

R.I.P best girl

So whachu telling me, is she is a good simp

he did kill him

He's dead, Jim fell down a hundred stories and painted the streets red when he landed

In the anime, using cyberware is shown to cause severe neurological stress. To the point of using a sandy more than a few times a day is considered extraordinary. In the game however, the player can put military grade cyberware all over, and use them without any side effects.

@@kerbodynamicx472 Your neurological state is constantly degrading throughout the game, there's even a tracker on the character menu showing a percentage like the gear showed that David was wearing. And even if it doesn't change faster depending on how much cyberware you have, in the end... Spoilers The player can't change the world either

@@KiraNightV That’s a nice post hoc rationalization but in reality it’s actually because the game was rushed and the devs did not really care about making the player feel any actual impact around using cyberwear. there is no way for the lore and the gameplay to match in their current state they just can’t no human being,no robot.ect on earth in all of cyberpunk lore anywhere can do something like use a sand vein,a heart pump,a bio monitor, Jetleg‘s,mono wire arms. and a flurry of other neural system related cybernetics. use them all completely simultaneously and repeatedly every three minutes all the time all day every day for an entire week+ without just falling over dead never mind going cyber psychotic. The game was just rushed and they didn’t care or consider adding in a mechanic to make the player feel like there was any actual negative downside to using these incredibly overpowered abilities aside from a very very very short three minute cool down or less.

An anthology series, perhaps. But in that case I would prefer it being named Cyberpunk: [something else], since we'd no longer be following the edgerunner group.

Turning the series into an anthology about all those who named drinks in the Afterlife would be a wonderful way to take the series, see just why the city remembers these Cyberpunks for how they died, and more importantly… why those close to them remembered them for how they were in life

I wouldn’t be surprised if season 2 is about Lucy

@@SkeleGem or following the life paths in the game. Like this technically counts as the street kid story what about a corpo or nomad. Your idea is better though especially if we could get more stories of the legends night city has but just something i figured would be a good way to play into the game and rpg.

@@jeremiahbates1870 The entire collection of different path stories could collectively be called "Cyberpunk: Tales from Night City"

It's not that they can just recover the chick is using them to see if you can cure them shes literally just going to send them to be tested on ☠️

It's really usually also a VERY preventable break and cause by the very systems and city that refuses to provide mental health support for the variety of issues it gives it's people and would rather shoot the problem Cause life is cheap and death is cheaper

What's your source tho? Pretty sure that in game it is only stated that "some people" believe it's possible to reverse cyberpschosis, but I don't remember it being a proven thing. It's true you're asked not to kill the cyberpsychos but was it ever confirmed that any of them were cured? Not that I know of

@@lesscrement1448 Even if not fully cured, they’re brought down from the violent state enough that they don’t need to be shot at constantly.

@@lesscrement1448 For one, the cyberpsycho girl in the game's original trailer. You later find her as a MaxTac officer and I think its heavily implied that a lot of MT soldiers are former cyberpsychos themselves.

Exactly, glad they kept the lore friendly bits in their respective language (like the tiger claw bike chase for example).

Yeah, knowing the tiger claws are Japanese and speak Japanese, it made perfect sense to see them speaking it in the anime. A varied city like this always has people like that. I love that kind of detail

Ripperdocs creole accent sold me on the dub entirely. Dudes a straight g

That was one thing I loved in the game too. The Valentinos speak Spanish. The Tiger Claws speak Japanese. The Scavs have Russian accents and there's a few other languages sprinkled in between as well. Really shows that the city is as diverse in culture as the lore makes it out to be both in game and in the anime

Black Lagoon is another show that carried a sense of dread throughout it

Ooof i hate shows like this but I’m gonna watch it… kinda for that reason 😂 also it looks beautiful

when will i get bitches

@@alchemistofsteel8099 maine reminded me of dutch a lot

Thats a well pointed comment about waiting for that other shoe to drop. Even in the moments of victory, everything was Pyrrhic at the end.

The anime might have just saved the game by getting people to overlook its horrifically buggy launch and take a chance on the game as it is now.

@@Kvantum yeah the released a 40gb update like a week and a half ago I think

@@blobfish8265 and it was needed.

TBF, the cyberpunk genre is DEEPLY linked to Japan, with several of the genre’s classics being anime and manga. And virtually all featuring Japanese corpos prominently.

*captures the themes of the universe

Some do, as shown in the game. Some are just blown to bits. Either way they're treated as inhuman, which is just... fitting but so upsetting.

Redirected against what?

@@ricoambro other Cyberpsychos instead of random chooms.

@@AlexiconPrime aah makes sense

@@AlexiconPrime yup.. that’s why I said “whom they capture”

Yup, Cyberpsychosis isn't actually some supernatural fantasy disease that just magically turns someone into a berserker terminator if they become too much robot. It's a fake scapegoat label created to cover up a wide variety of anti-social behaviors that result from the trauma of living in a cruel ultra-capitalist society and the mental dysmorphia from installing defective black-market implants and replacing your normal body parts with weapons and turning yourself into a killing machine (people who get proper natural-looking medical prosthetics don't go cyberpsycho, only those who get inhuman chromed up gun arms and sword legs from shady unlicensed ripper docs.) Cyberpsycho attacks could be prevented if Night City invested in social programs to reduce poverty and crime, as well as comprehensive free medical care for their citizens and those displaying symptoms were treated with compassion and given extensive therapy. But admitting that unregulated capitalism and lack of universal free medical care makes people snap would be inconvenient for the ruling elite, so instead the victims are ignored and demonized until they become dangerous, then get shot down by government stormtroopers.

And the implied theories of Cyberpsychosis actually being a weaponized sickness rather than naturally occurring from the overuse of implants.

I slowly realized when doing the cyberpsycho missions that we are trying to rehabilitate them, not kill them, so I accidentally killed something like 6 of them without realizing. Saddest part is that most of the ones I killed were the ones who just wanted to live, and not endanger others

@@klo1679 Regina tells you something along the lines "shame you couldn't save all of them" if you kill some of them instead of just incapacitating all of them.

In the tabletop cyberpsychosis is serious enough that my crew's runner can hack into and remotely detach my fullborg's limbs or head, but treating it is casual enough that they can roll my nugget body out the car door in front of the hospital with 500eb pinned to my jacket or after a gig I can visit my ripper and have a wank and watch some cartoons to stave it off for another week.

It's why Trigger is a peak studio. She has around 15 minutes of combined screen time in the whole show, but she absolutely steals the show and you know everything you need to in that time. Other studios sometimes can't develop their main character beyond two personality traits in 130 episodes.

It’s retroactive meaning at its finest!

There are three tracks from the game the anime uses to frankly insanely good effect. There's that one, Rat Boy's 'Who's Ready for Tomorrow' which fits David's early journey perfectly, and in my opinion the much more subtle but much more brutal 'Major Crimes' by HEALTH. "If life's short... why does it take so long? Is there no way out?" Woof. Body Heat Radio killing it.

@@AlexiconPrime Cyberpunk had so many banger songs, but it didn't utilize them all properly. So many of them were just songs you MIGHT hear on the radio if you happen to be listening to the right station. Edgerunners truly utilized each and every one of the ones they used to an artistically masterful effect. Each beat in the show stood out in any given scene. Honestly even as a longtime Studio Trigger fan, I just have to say that this is so far their greatest masterpiece yet. Their current Magnum Opus. I say that even despite each and every one of their shows thus far being defining factors in my development as a person. They are not only masters of animation, but masters of storyboarding, storytelling, character creation, worldbuilding, and most certainly soundtrack design. I just wish we could have more of Studio Trigger all the damn time. Oh, and i've had Rat Boy's 'Who's Ready for Tomorrow' basically on constant loop for the past week or two, as it's such a fucking mood.

I cant listen to it or I start crying

@@AlexiconPrime I'm also partial to using Gazelle Twin & Trash Generation's History for his cyberpsychosis breaks, on the edge of becoming history in the messiest way possible.

Hopefully this anime will inspire others and continue the cycle.

As a wise man from the Andes once said: "Oh yeah, it's all coming together."

@big stink the brapin king good call choomba. CDPR backed trigger up well to make it work. Not to mention that Mike Pondsmith may have had some involvement.

@@RutraNickers where’s that from ?

@@roachies4242 - The Emperor's New Chombatta

yeah it's just so ironic that they use carbonated stuff in that drink tho, he hated carbonate things

The drink was before the anime release tho

@@user-ei3sh2ys4o maybe its made for lucy

What does the drink do?

@@himesilva Just ingame stats

Lmao so true.

I know right? Everyone seems to have agreed it's the "cry now" song.

Ikr? I always thought the song had some kind of bittersweet vibe but now it's the new Dango Daikazoku for me 😭

Normally I'd be somewhere between completely indifferent and outright dislike for this song but damn you're not wrong about the Pavlovian trigger, I'm still whiping the tears from my eyes after the end of this video.

Yeah, just hearing it at the end of the video broke me. No need for any anime clip.

Weird, because I also remember him saying the game itself was generic sci fi, so it’s confirmed then. The show is more Cyberpunk then the game.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 he never said that.

​@@jakespacepiratee3740 The game got the cyberpunk feel on the spot, just didnt do as well on the "game" stuff

Pondsmith was one of the first people to directly inject anime influences into Western geek culture when he published Mekton, a mecha tabletop RPG, back in 1984 (same year as Battletech, another early vehicle for introducing anime into Western SF). The man's a real pioneer of so many genres and media.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 Would be weird as he himself did also help on the game..

"No happy endings" is a Staple of the Cyberpunk Genre

​@@hakuanquietpaws2307the happiest ending that's *ever* possible is your main character/s surviving the end.

This show looks like crap bc it’s anime. Anime sucks, how can you look at that crap art work and find any enjoyable aspect of it. It looks terrible

Akira?

There is a hell of a lot of media that lived up to what cyberpunk is. A good video game example is deus ex mankind divided. Sure you could just follow to main story and ignore most of the darkness but the second you start doing the side quests it’s all sorts of messed up

Barely any compare to the portrayal of Cyberpunk like edgerunners or the larger 20XX format. The original Deus ex holds a candle to it without a doubt but it loses focus. Especially within HR and MD. The top cyberpunk pieces of media in my opinion are mostly books by authors you've never heard of, the 20XX series and 'do androids dream of electric sheep'@@thepowerof2307

Except you can't. Unless you are a full-blown psychopath who also happens to not mind that the paths available for you to take through life are very narrow and rigid. Or "save yourself" simply means that you can ensure your own "survival" (which also seems quite dubious). This show also really doesn't tell that story (multiple character live in one sense or another for others and those that don't do not seem that happy about it; unless they are an uncaring psychopath). So it seems to me that either Mike doesn't quite understand his own universe, that I misinterpret the quote, some context is missing, or this show is a misleading portrayal of it. (I was never - at least not before this show - into Pondsmith's Cyberpunk - and really annoyed at the name - but (and this probably explains the annoyance) really into the cyberpunk genre in general; Deus Ex, the world in the background of the The Longest Journey games, the Neuromancer trilogy, and similar).

​@@WhoisTheOtherVindAzz I think it's more metaphorical than literal. One of the recurring themes in both the show and the game is the struggle to keep yourself in the face of impossible odds. In Night City, 'saving yourself' could mean a lot of things. You could join a corp and live in comfort at the cost of your soul, or you could fight like hell for what you believe in and go out in a blaze of glory. You could leave it all behind and forget it. The only victory that matters in Night City is not letting it change who you are. But that's like, my opinion, man.

@@HatchetHatter I like it if it means "keep yourself" and that makes a lot of sense; both in the fictional world of Nigth City and the reality in which it exists.

@@HatchetHatter I mean one can even say the only way to win in Night City as some street level punk is to leave Even if you go corpo you're not born high enough in it to get somewhere untouchable the higher ups can one day deem you acceptable losses

A lot of the weapons used and quickhacks seen are also things you can use in game.

@@asitallfallsdown5914 you can find Rebecca's shotgun where she got killed, thats something......

the places, the quickhacks, the vehicles... the anime is just the game with a different story. Thats the catch

oh yea, this anime pulls a lot of UI elements from the game. the map they pull up in the final episode, the font of the texts, the call sounds, the money indicators... if there's, like, any digital element in this show, it's probably a UI thing from the game. it's such a cool decision that it ends up retroactively making the UI of the game feeling much more diagetic, like it's an actual part of how characters in the universe experiences reality instead of just game features.

@@mori2037 Same with most of the music and locations, if there's an exterior shot in the show you can probably find it somewhere in-game and if there's a song in the show it probably plays on the radio.

Truly a devil’s choice. Either become a corporate crook or a street criminal. If he had some better guidance he probably could have survived with the crew, but nobody was equipped to help him with his hero complex.

This was great characterization for Night City. I really got that impression playing the game too. This is not a good place. That's just life in Night City. When I was playing the game, it was really jarring to go from the optimistic Jesse to the extremely cynical view of Silverhand, but it makes complete sense.

no idea how true that is, but because it worked well and was enjoyable I'm gunna pretend to know this as factual and nobody can convince me otherwise lmfao.

His English VA is also Tanjiro from Demon Slayers, another fun fact lol

@@WrayMaxwellVO Double fun fact: the VA of Katsuo, the rich bully who makes the jojo noises, is the same guy who voices Zenitsu.

@@unigon794 Yeah, Aleks Le has been doing quite abit these days with the dragonball super superhero movie that passed as Gamma 1 and now Luke for the upcoming street fighter 6. Him and Zach Aguilar have been really seem to be on the come up in the English VO world

Another Fun fact : Faraday the fixer is voiced by Giancarlo Esposito aka Gus Fringe from breaking bad.

Only the city, even the corpos loses to Night City.

V's about the only person to buck that trend, depending on the ending you choose.

Only way to win is by playing the game. Found your own business, become a global corporation, enter a violent and unethical war of economics, devastate the lives of millions, dismantle your enemies, throw down their progeny, trample their heritage. Win. Look out of the window of your ivory tower, down at the unwashed masses that you yourself crawled out of and put the barrel to your head. Cry a single tear of shame, then pull the trigger.

Well, at least V and Johnny can fuck up Arasaka pretty badly in some of the endings. Even if it's only for a brief period of time, in 2077 a corp took a major L.

@@1986Hikaru the corpos don’t lose, they are too big to fail. Even with Arasaka taking that hit, they will survive. V and David were a pothole and that was it.

V is a shit character and the game fundamentally has a broken core loop and power creep. This show is amazing but as someone who wants to see video game consumers hold companies accountable, cyberpunk 2077 is a failed project artistically.

I definitely think V is much stronger, keep in mind V not only has years of experience in merc work, but also 10 years of gradually using implants, so while V burns twice as bright, half as long, I still think V did it more gradually than David. Plus I think the creators singled out the Relic as a reason for V not being susceptible to cyberpsychosis.

I used Rebeccas shotgun with a full gunfighter build and destroyed Adam Smasher so stupidly easy that I felt I cheated myself.

V is canonically stronger than Adam Smasher, but the boss fight isn't an indication of that. You can have a canonically powerful character be an easy fight in a game, doesn't change the actual lore.

Even admitting to dealing with psychosis is dangerous. There is a mission in 2077 where a vet struggling with psychosis calls a therapist who then keeps her on the line just long enough for the military clean up crew to come to kill her.

Basically, avoiding or dealing with cyberpsychosis revolves around two main things, assuming the point is to have much cybernetic implants and NOT get insane: - availability of therapy if/when needed - high-quality implants with highly-qualified medical technicians putting them in. Possibly bio-augmentations instead of cyber stuff, if possible. Guess what's relatively easier to get, or not, on the streets. Curing cyberpsychosis is possible, but, well, rare - it's... difficult to capture a rampaging cyberpsycho alive, and that's assuming the attempt is actually going to be made. Even then, curing cyberpsychosis requires removal or deactivation of all implants, except those providing "baseline" human functions (mere cyber-prosthethics and artificial hearts won't make you a psycho, for example)

I would say canonically partial correct since the implants themselves are the root problem in many ways. even a mentally stable person will get problems with cyber psychosis if he has too many implants. and I think the anime and game portray that fact very well. Cyberpsychosisi is mainly triggered by the dehumanization through implants, the more implants the less of a person you become. this is why adam smasher can exist he already was a psychopath, to begin with.

@@adzi6164 the fact that you need high-quality implants and highly-qualified medical tech to install then automatically forbids everyone that ain't corpo from it. You can _maybe_ find decent cyberware and a good intentioned ripperdoc, but they aren't called "ripper" for nothing, specially if YOU can afford to pay then.

The nature of implants is also important. Essentially, things that only emulate the human body put a lot less strain on the brain and nervous system than things that add entirely new abilities and functions. A basic full-body prosthetic that does nothing other than emulate a human body is overall pretty safe. It's when you do things like put a grenade launcher into your arm or install a system that overloads your whole nervous system to supercharge your reflexes or similar that your brain will start to get overwhelmed. As a straight example of that, heavy military full-body cyborgs are essentially halfway sedated and put into a sort of shared control setup with the bodies' integral expert systems to prevent them going full psycho from the strain. It's described as being in a sort of dreamlike state and the users generally dislike it - off-mission they're normally transferred into a much more basic full-body prosthetic that they can live in normally. This is also why they aren't a straight replacement for normal infantry: The way they're essentially sleepwalking means they're less creative and flexible than a normal person and will carry out any orders given in a very literal and robotic manner. This means they're more limited in what kind of missions they can be expected to carry out and that they require more supervision during missions than normal soldiers. (Adam Smasher is about the only exception to all this, and the most common explanation for why he's seemingly immune to cyberpsychosis is that he was a psychopathic nutter already, long before he ever got chromed up. Lest we forget, dude managed to get a dishonorable discharge from the Army while it was fighting what was basically Vietnam 2.0: Even More Warcrimes Edition.)

Yea. By the point I knew it was a final countdown to disaster

Yup, that right there removed any foolish notions of there being a happy ending for me as well.

He screwed up morally when he accepted to assassinate that head researcher, who was also an unarmed civilian.

Well, to be fair it's the anime and the fact that they finally fixed the damned thing.

@@berserkerdude People barely cared about previous updates, they would not have cared about this one either if not for the anime. The anime got people back to the game, it's the fact CDPR fixed most of it that keeps people playing. For example the game reached a new peak, 89k concurrent players... on THURSDAY. I can't even imagine how much higher it will be on Sunday, probably at this rate 120k or even more. Without the anime it would have gotten 20k at most. The anime shifted the story around the game, now people all of a sudden are willing to give it another chance, or are just now playing it for the first time. I mean on Sunday it made number 1 on Steam. So yeah, this is the best marketing move CDPR could have ever made for their game, this show right here. Whoever came up with the idea to go with this show to Studio Trigger deserves a massive raise because they might have just saved Cyberpunk 2077 in the process. Don't be surprised if CDPR end up extending the life of the game with more updates, past what they've promised just two weeks ago. So Edgerunners got people back at the table, but it was CDPR actually serving good food now that keeps people playing and pushing the game higher and higher on Steam.

@@berserkerdude oh for sure,this was such a good decision from them. Fix the game and make people want to play because of a banger of an anime

I think the anime help get new players but I know a lot of players return to the game to replay it because they just announced an expansion not long ago

@@Ebosan87 edgerunners and the new expansion thats coming out

Wonder how much of that is the song and how much is Lucy

@@mothersbasement It's all Lucy my guy

@@mothersbasement actually, the song. "Hold onto your wishes if you can't hold onto me" just cuts to the soul as you envision Lucy's pained smile as she remembers David in their braindance.

It feels like a GitS outro. Lithium Flower maybe? I know several of the intros/outros feature Kusanagi stripped off all her features just diving through cyberspace. It gave THAT kind of tone. I'd love to hear the animators Behind the Scenes on their inspiration. Because I can think of at least 10 examples.

Makes it even worse when you think about it this way, Lucy originally wanted to escape to the moon on a one way ticket out of night city, then the dream changed to wanting David to be there and at the end she’s stuck on the moon now, with no one and no way back surrounded by the never ending darkness around the moon, ofc the suns there and people she doesn’t know and that she obviously doesn’t care about at least not as much as she does David, so she got to live on the moon alone and knowing that she’ll never see David again, she forces herself to smile otherwise davids died for nothing essentially. That makes me sad very very sad

thats how I would do it, make it a once a year tragedy kind of thing. Shit would develop a MASSIVE following

You're not alone, its gone up 2mil streams on spotify in roughly 24 hours (from 4mil to 6mil). I've also listened to it for 90% of my waking hours since finding it on spotify.

Listen to "Let you down" everyone is just ignoring It but it really sounds like Davids song

Honestly, I prefer "I let you down"

@@EyelessWolf_ Ye. I'd say it fits his, and possibly even Maine's death more than "I want to stay at your house"

If you loved the world building, I suggest you try the game. The story/quests in the game will flesh out Night City more~ and V's story is also one that's super interesting. The decisions you make in the end are crucial. They play the song on the car radio/radios around the city too

They still have "adult" animation on there, apparently.

And even when it was used casually, it kinda just was a thing without making a big deal of it. Feels like it was a good representation of the face of night city (the extremely explicit in your face nudity) vs the more average day-to-day life (more casual and/or personally intimate). I mean, yeah it can get crazy at times but it's still people just living their lives. Or I could be reading into it too much.

@@PhoenicopterusRNah' I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Thank you for saying this. I fucking love Lucy

Sad part is David's fate was sealed the moment he displayed his sandy to arasaka. Lucy killed runners to keep him hidden, but that drew their attention more. She couldn't tell him since he'd just try to stop her or worse get involved. He went out the best way he could given the circumstances.

Exactly what I think too

You either go quietly, Mr. Nobody... Or else you can go out in a blaze of glory, to become a legend... Ain't no other path in Night City choom... If there is, well, I ain't seen it yet...

​@@mlt3496 underrated comment...finally someone actually understands Lucy's character....she's best girl along with Rebecca

did the exact same thing lol

I'm a huge fan of the cyberpunk genre and I really think this series matched or exceeded the bar set by Neuromancer. Which is insane because this was an animé.

Bro I di the exact same thing the ending on the moon broke my heart so hard I was bawling like a baby

Literally same

Same

I enjoyed that wordplay as well lol

It was *chef's kiss*

Eden of the East was so good too! I never hear anyone talk about that and how great it was!

Fuck watched the show in 2024 and i have to admit that it gets to its point...i was expecting a cliché ending or atleast that the mc would have survived but i think that the one we got is the most well resembling one of the lore and the reality itself, where you couldnt powerup randomly or beat everything or everyone on the verge of death only thanks to your will or hopes. Afterall life is life and it doesnt forgives anyone. 10/10 with honesty 🎉🎉

best of the year

@@polskiwyrob7650 we do have strong contenders next season but I would also argue that it can still be aoty

is by far the best of the season for me, and a strong contender for best of the year.

@@polskiwyrob7650 Wow, 2022 has been a weaker year compared to 2021. So far this and Made in Abyss S2 are contenders for the year for me. But just wait until we get Chainsaw Man lol.

It arrived, what, two years after the game? You could say Edgerunners was fashionably late to the party.

The whole bottle was used

What are the tropes?

@@KerupukKeju the big two that i noticed were: - Mech Fights - it ends in Space But people with more Trigger Knowledge can propably Tell you more

Correct me if I'm wrong but : - Unneccessary weird Fanservices that are actually good - Breathtaking Eye Bleeding Colorful fights - BIG ASS FONTS - Cool impractical glasses - Hot damn Death Flags full packaged with explicits - Child Soldiers - Hype ass mohawks - (As mentioned) Space - (As mentioned) Big mechs - Balls to the walls choreographic fights - Dark Comedy so dank you laugh in pain - Satirical version of other tropes How about read them in full in TV Tropes site?

Just forgetting the random aliens

Can't adapt the TRPG mechanics. But the setting and established lore serves as a decent canvas for story telling.

Rebecca could say the same

Oh wow, that's awesome, never would have known. Thanks for mentioning!

@@majnuker Yeah its been in there for like a year or so. There's videos of people going "Who the heck is david?"

Yeah but johnny also has his drink soooo David could have shared the same fate maybe? Idk

@@Greifenkitty Johnny was thought to be dead after the Arasaka tower bombing(I mean, with the actual Lore behind Soulkiller the real Johnny is dead), so him having a drink at the Afterlife is pretty on point. If someone's fate is unknown, like Morgan Blackhand's, they won't get a drink.

I want to mention that the Davids drink contains soda. So David wouldnt like ist

now I *need* Trigger animated Jackie "Motherfuckin' Best Boi of Heywood" Welles

Part 2 to this Anime/This-Video-here: 'Is the US becoming a Dystopia?' by Seocnd-Thought.

I was going to say "What about Arcane" Then I realized it's been almost a fucking year since Arcane released Where tf have the past few years gone. They just zipped ny

Does Demon Slayer not count?

@@zaehelhm3099 Same lol

Im a slave for a bit of overlord just for the perspective and characters but enjoyed edgerunners as a whole package.

Yurei Deco is another from this season. Science Saru did their thing and did it right, again.

Literally to remain human... You must remain human. Pretty poetic and tragic.

Which is why V is also so powerful with cyber ware, literally everything V does, is to help others before themselves, they will rarely ask for money upfront, and will help others on goodwill, something that the rest of NC just doesn’t understand. One mission is saving some random corpo from corrupt cops, you can do that mission without receiving a single Eddie, but the reward is more xp and street cred. V is helpless in their own situation, but still helps anybody else who needs it, usually without question of reward.

@@klo1679 you forgot the fact that V can be as heroic/villainous as you want them to be, yet still won't succumb to this. the reason is that he already died once, and the chip with Johnny Silverhand's engram had ''restarted'' V's brain and brought them back to life. this basically cancels out V's potentiality to cyberpsychosis.

This raises some interesting questions about adam

​@@xenn4985Adam never had empathy to begin with. He took the Arasaka deal because he was dying, and he wasn't changed beyond the fact that he's on a leash now.

Definitely got a few tears out of me. Not at the ending though oddly enough. That 6th episode really got me though.

@@FateZephyr Part 2 to this Anime/This-Video-here: 'Is the US becoming a Dystopia?' by Seocnd-Thought.

wish you did? what

Crying would have made it hurt less tbh

YOu can admit you cried its okay i did too.

Don't forget 'Who's ready for tomorrow' by Rat Boy, which is basically David's theme. The music is just SO FITTING and it ties the worlds together so beautifully. First time I heard Major Crimes in the show I almost teared up.

The return of Bleach too

Kaguya s3, Made in Abyss s2, SpyxFamily...

@@arlay3513 Very good shows also I was more talking about the ones with very flashy visuals

Vinland saga season 2 as well I think

@@bloomper pretty sure that’s next year

Until the Chainsaw Man starts

@@chrislawlor6264 Even with Chainsaw Man in the running this still has a good chance to take it. Chainsaw Man will simply be the most popular.

I've heard so many good things about Chainsaw Man, that's the only thing it has going against it. I've heard that it's like the second coming of christ, but Edgerunners came out of no where. I started watching expecting absolute shit, I'm just a sucker for cyberpunk anime, fuck was I surprised.

@@xXAkirhaXx so the anime is only gonna adapt the starting of the manga with like 12 episodes. We won't be getting into the main story until the second season sadly

@@judgment5265 Good point but riddle me this. Why is Tatsuki Fujimoto's manga so popular in the first place?

I mean...maybe it's a psychotic break that cyberware excellerates/extends and she's under a lot of pressure and trauma too but she's got minimal chrome so it's not near as driven to extreme not is it as destructive when she snaps Hell one can even call her shutting down after the job that went wrong a break

@@camerontrivett1772 she does not have minimal chrome, girl has implants on all of her neural system. As an netrunner she must have heavy brain modifications (even more plausible since she was "designed" by Arasaka).

Makes you wonder if its because of impending cyberpsychosis or because of trauma caused by her losing someone in the past so she doesn't want to go through that again. Interesting to think about ngl.

@@Prodigy70 Cyberpsychosis is literally just supertrauma causing psychotic breaks, accelerated by chrome. So yeah.

There really isn't a cure, the closest thing is out of pocket paid therapy once a week to lessen it's effects permanently.

@@gaymansupreme I wouldn't say that considering the fact that some ex-cyberpsychos who received Braindance therapy can even install cyberware again.

@@gaymansupreme I mean that’s the thing though. There isn’t a cure in a traditional sense because the affliction itself is just poor mental health and the society that perpetuates it. If they weren’t chromed up they wouldn’t be cyber psychos, just regular ones. That’s the only difference. Technically speaking they even exist today, only they’re called school shooters.

Then it's even more cruel that MaxTec are literally gunning for people that they know could be (or could've been) saved. The system really swallows everyone.

​@@OnlyRoke Yep, and it should be considered as well that that is likely partially by design. MaxTac members have already shown their low humanity, so they care much less about who they kill and much more about being able to kill. In all truthfulness, they still tread the line between cyberpsycho and not; they just have enough resources to stay cognizant and a short enough leash. A *truly* fully recovered cyberpsycho through traditional treatment is a completely different person from their former cyberpsycho and non-cyberpsycho selves, and more humane treatment is technically still experimental, though we know through our own lens that there's no reason it shouldn't work. Also of course, cyberpsychosis comes in all kinds of forms due to it being a blanket diagnosis to ignore the real problems, so it's likely that cyberware-induced cyberpsychosis is completely different from trauma-induced cyberpsychosis, and then there's always the psychopaths who just so happen to use cyberware to do more damage.

I totally know what you mean. There are several anime that get the same reaction out of me. FMAB, Hunter X Hunter, AOT, Made in Abyss, etc. It's like, the story and characters are very well written without the obvious anime tropes that can make anime exhausting sometimes.

for a guy who doesnt watch anime at all, i actually think the show is amazing. some badass deaths, extreme gore, great characters (rebecca is my favorite, crazy yet charismatic, just like Vaas), and a great (but also expected) ending. the only sad thing about it was that it only was 10 episodes long. 😅

Is the RU-vidr Second-Thought Cyberpunk? I mean, that Guy sure criticizes and dissects the whole System.

Meet

@@slevinchannel7589 he gave bayarea a bump and platform, I'd call him punk for that

They might be mad but Johnny Rotten doesn’t even think he’s punk www.nme.com/news/music/sex-pistols-72-1328837

@@mothersbasement OK, fair enough, I guess. Probably the only thing I've ever 100% agreed with Johnny Rotten on lmao.

Fore being objectively correct lol

Made some friends too. Fuck the Pistols. Bunch of wankers. Shouldn't be in the same breath as the Ramones, Clash, Damned, etc.

@@mothersbasement Check out Chill Goblin's video on how Chumbawumba is infinitely more punk than Sex Pistols. It's a good time.

Yeah - I interpreted it as a microcosm of addiction as they're shown often KNOWING that they're slipping and won't stop. It's very similar to a lot of addicts stories.

That’s what I was thinking too. The drug addiction parallels are very clear to me

Pondsmith himself said cyberpsychosis is more comparable to the mental effects of steroids on bodybuilders in the form of "roid rage"

While it destroys the person on a mental and personal level, it also destroys the people around them... both figuratively and... very VERY literally

Thought it was a psychosis cus they lost their humanity.

@Ra's VRTG Mike Pondsmith himself said the "humanity" stat was essentially one's mental stability - as he puts it, "Humanity is not just a measure of one aspect of personality, but an overall measure of several elements including the subject's ability to emphasize and relate with others, their ability to absorb and rebound from mental and physical stressors, their ability to show compassion and flexibility to others, and whether they are able to balance their worldview through other methods." As he puts it, David, in spite of his socioeconomic status, was arguably a lot better off than most people living in NC. Think about it. He actually had a shot at the golden towers, a loving mother, and even when it all went to crap, he was still able to bond with Maine's crew and meet Lucy. V is able to handle everything you slap onto them because having Johnny in their head means they have someone to bounce off of and talk to when dealing with all the crap they see throughout the game.

Did the game include any details? Otherwise it may have been just a name.

Well, yes and no. Production wise Edgerunners was actually in the works well before release. Studio Trigger was working on this with CDPR since 2019 at the very least according to interviews so it’s very likely they just put the drink in to get ahead of things since they already had enough of the plot figured out by then to do it.

@@svankensen With the 1.6 Edgerunners update, areas you see in the anime (that already existed in the game at launch, but obviously had no meaning) now in game are tied to the Edgerunnners questline and you can find easter eggs from the anime in the game world. Such as being able to enter Rebecca's apartment, finding guns that were unique to the anime characters and upon completion of the Edgerunners questline you get David's jacket as a wearable outfit. So I think it is safe to say CDPR, had all this planned from the beginning and the game may have been rough technically at launch ...but lore, world and character wise...even day 1 you could see the passion. Only NOW are a lot of people seeing the bigger picture of how much passion was thrown not just into the game...but the whole Cyberpunk acquisition as a whole. And with CDPR giving the blessing to the modding community to go to town...who knows what we will see.

@@silicabeastmaster1175 I don't feel a power fantasy game is the best medium to tell cyberpunk stories. There was a fine bladerunner adventure game. And games like syndicate, with emphasis on the setting and in teams, not the individuals, were also a good way to tell cyberpunk stories. Hell, even shadowrun, with all their silly stuff, does good work. But a game where you are a singular force, changing the world, go completely against the themes of the genre. It is just aesthetics, not the content. This anime, on the other hand, did a great job communicating the tragedy of living in such a world.

@@svankensen I never said that, though building David's Sandevistan build in Cyberpunk 2077 is OP... The game of Cyberpunk isn't about saving the world as a one man army. It's about trying to save yourself from your inevitable death. And depending on your choices...you may walk away with your soul intact...you may die a legend...or you may fade away with no one remembering who you were.

Same here! I'm so hyped about the hype!

Spoilers below. Well, one of them, at least… 😢

what? where?

@@SRCepTer cdpr voted Becca out of the show cuz there are no lolis in nc. Trigger said she stays or they walk. Cdpr let her stay and we got the best character of the show

@@albasu_ When I first saw an image of her without watching the show, I thought "loli" because it was an anime, but after, she just seemed like a a very short woman with anger issues and a couple screws loose. Which is a compliment, because sis was bursting with personality way beyond "loli".

@@joyc.e.7511 completely agree. The whole crew has their charms but Becca is exploding with personality. And along side being a little murder gremlin she genuinely cared for our mc and his happiness. She was tragically human in such an inhuman world

She reminded me a lot of Harley Quinn lol😅