Cyborg Superman vs Kal-El [Part 1] | Reign of the Supermen 

It’s not a problem of “bad writers vs good writers”. The problem is that big budget movies are less likely to take risks because they have more to lose. Everything needs to be corporate approved. Even if the writers are good, they are limited by executive meddling. A relatively low-budget straight-to-DVD movie on the other hand, can basically let the writers do whatever they want.

@@cartoonishidealism582 that's exactly what happens their live action movies were also written by extremely talented people like Chris terrio man he is a Oscar winning writer,then their is David s goyer same guy who wrote TDK trilogy so how the hell are the live action writers bad lmao...real problem are executives not creators

now that would make me watch the movies

Yup

@@brajabadusahoo9570 yall are sooo right, it’s honestly all money 🤷‍♂️ id like to think DC tries, but hey we cant all be perfect like Disney. I say give DC more time they still have so much to work with. Im excited.

I experience that with my sister. I help her so many times, but the one time I don't, I'm a fuxking villain.

Kev Jumba fr tho

That's a damn good saying

that's what populism is

yeah ive experienced this

that's why he's super, pal

I don't think this version of Superman hasn't discovered that his power can be fully regenerated by the sun until later on.

Kal’el was still bleeding from the face after a couple of punches to the head tho.

So how did Lois know?

@@Sonic-hq9zz everyone knows he get his powers from the sun

So true my friend

On the other hand, he's been brainwashed and is no longer capable of rational thought.

Trust me he is worse in the comics.

@Pup DaNi He still can’t be everywhere at once. He can’t save everyone.

...Are you, too, a troper?

Cyborg is insane but a genius at the same time

Well said

He was written better in the comics. The fact that he couldn't explain what had happened to him and the fact that Terri died drove Hank into madness, and he began developing delusions and inaccuracies of what really happened. He needed something to blame for his tragedy, and he chose Superman. So his mind crafted its own story that Superman threw something into the Sun, causing the spaceship that he and Terri were in to fill with radiation and crashland. It had nothing to do with Darkseid or Superman not being there in time. Cyborg Superman's motive is all his rage, grief, and frustration directed at the world.

Ivan Del Bianco no, they’re not a farce. Batman was already rushing to Jason Todd when the bomb blew up the warehouse. Hank never delivered any signal for Superman or the JL to save him. You think with all the crimes on Earth, they are able to respond to a call made in outer space? How entitled can you be to always demand a rescue when million others also needed saving? Both Hank and Jason Todd are egoistic maniacs that blames their own personal failures and tragedy to their idols. At least Jason was redeemed in some story arcs as an anti-hero that works with the Bat-family to solve crimes in Gotham. Hank merely used Superman to rid himself of all guilt in causing the death of his wife, even though it was clearly his failure as a husband and her commander.

Actually, according to the last movie "Death of Superman", Hank was the one who suggested that they should stay and wait for Superman while his wife wanted to leave. Also, if Darkseid saved him, why didn't Hank wondered why Darkseid save him but not his wife and him. If anything, Cyborg Superman should get revenge on Darkseid instead of Superman.😒😒😒

This is an underrated comment!

He can time travel too.but hasn't done that since the 70's.

And erase the universe again? Not for another few movies.

lol

"Could you gimme a minute to fly around the earth really fast? I know, it sounds crazy, but if I turn the world backwards...

@Roy Nelson Because its the start of the Justice League

@Roy Nelsonthey do. Just limited showing in selected cinemas.

Roy Nelson so as in the dceu movies

@Roy Nelson What does that have to do with what he's talking about?

They used to.

nmr20067 I prefer the original context of the line in the comics. A resurrected Superman emerges from a robot, a news report says Cyborg Superman destroyed Coast City and that Metropolis is his next target. Superman hears this and vows, “Over my dead body.” Give me the comic version any day of the week

Epic

If you're going to have the protagonist say that line, you fail to use it to full effect if you don't have the antagonist no-sell it and immediately respond with "that's what I had in mind" or words to that effect.

right, but there are so many stories of other people and characters saying this line.

Yeah and Parallax Hal Jordan emerges after the shitstorm of Coast City he couldn’t stop because he traveling galaxies and conversing with spectre and all of that shit. Leading to Emerald Twilight And eventually Final Night after the Infamous Zero Hour.

No, superheroes are never there when they need them most. Some examples are Jason Todd and Hank Hanshaw. They needed them, and they abandoned them. Heroes are a great farce.

Just to be clear, Batman was never at fault for Jason's death. He was rushing to save him. The Joker/readers (more like 1 reader with a bunch of time and money) killed him off. Batman was never to blame.

@@activeoffline6772 as in case of jason todd.. joker got carried away beating him up to death with or without realizing that but pretty sure does not give a damn about waiting just went ahead venting out on jason todd

@ You obviously don't know what a superhero is or represents if you completely believe that they abandon the people they try to save. Literally every story of a superhero I have ever seen is them trying to get from point A to point B so they can save person C. Its as if youve forgotten that Villians exist, or just obstacles in general that stop Superheroes from saving everyone. Being ENTITLED to the fact that YOU, specifically YOU, must be saved in a given situation is a very dumb belief to have and I do not respect it at all. You're the one who got yourself in that situation, so tell me why a hero or anyone for that HAVE to save you? Did you forget that heroes can easily and I mean EASILY use their powers for evil and just end you on the spot? Or is it just more convenient to blame someone else for your own fault? Get the fuck out of here with that "Heroes are a farce" bullshit. On the flip side I AM sorry, just that comment ticked me off a little. I don't have any ill-will towards you, I just hate the idea that people seemingly feel the deserve something and call out the opposition when it is themselves who put them in that situation.

@@galaxyman2567 I agree. As much as we hope that heroes can save everyone, not everyone can be. There's only one hero who can but that's only if we choose him as our savior and that's Jesus Christ.

Chrishimoto lol true

That sounds good

Punished Snake Superman

@0ddMonk3y Government's bitch? If anything Big Boss was the one who was used by the Patriots the most, Solid actually ended and fought against them.

0ddMonk3y literally superman is only the govts bitch in tdkr, which has the edgiest adaptations of batman and superman. Supes is mostly against the govt most of the time lol

That’s a personal choice. You can choose to be always reliant on someone or be self sufficient. You don’t see Batman or the Flash asking for Superman all the time. They nearly die plenty of times but make it out anyway without asking because they know they are self sufficient enough.

This is entirely Hanks' fault tho

To be fair apocalypse was also putting cybernetics out onto the streets like they were heroin

Man. Superman really does have a bad habit of saying sensitive names of people he's fighting.

@@cunnyman true

Damn it, I’m always too late

Is this what Lois would want?!

Superman (Injustice): "WHY DID YOU SAID THAT NAME?!"

WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!

Or basically don't say anyone's names at that matter.

Some guy 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣

Some guy 🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣

@@VertigoX26 welp he ded now

😂😂😂😂

For fuck sakes stop fucking hating on the movie it's getting way more hate than it should be

Joss whedon And WBs fault

When??? I guess whenever you imagine it

@@CzarKaizanIrani snyder's fault

Symbiote Superman

Noir superman

We could have had this suit in justice league but it was too dark and spooky and goth and melancholic for warner brothers.

George TMN Its was cuz They wanted Superman’s return to show “hope,inspiration,etc.” and with his bright superman suit

And eventually, you stopped thinking.

He didn't get sunlight what so ever when he just came back

@bryan diaz varela it is not how his powers work. His tactile telekinesis and his kryptonian bio-electric aura are two different things.

bryan diaz varela he don’t even need a gun. Remember: faster than a speeding bullet. All he need is to let go of all his moral restraints and become Injustice Superman.

@@gorillone86 what superman has those powers, pls explain

@@alexanderchristopher6237 but his weakened tho

Facts

Devin Sears this reminds me of incredibles 2 actually

DC is so retarded.

@@HyperVegitoDBZ lol how ironic

Jedijazz4 he thought Superman would always be there to save the day

That can literally go for any human affection you date someone so you can make yourself happier so I never really got the point of this

Darth hidious thats entirely different to getting revenge cuz superman didnt save the day even tho u kinda put urself in that situation

Darth hidious No because that affection is mutual. A corpse in the ground doesn’t care about vengeance.

John wick in a nutshell, he reverts back to his old life after his wife dies for revenge. After he kills his dog's killer, it's not about his wife anymore, it's about him going back into the sin he does best: killing

Not everyone.

@Ultra Boy1000 Well said, but all in all, still a good character. I appreciate your analyzation. when faced w/ a character like this, it best to jot down the core elements of why they do what they do, so thank u very much.

@Barbara Jefferson I don't think Hank knew that the meteor had Doomsday. After the shuttle was destroyed, Hank's body was the only one unaccounted for, meaning Darkseid took him, made him into Cyborg Superman and told him of Doomsday being in the meteor.

To be fair, you don't become the pet project of a New Dark God and come out of it with a clear and insightful perspective on the actions of said Dark God.

It would be Better if He Said to Superman "Hey Superman i know Darkseid and what his Plans are i can prepare you and The Justice League to Fight Him" But if that happened we wouldn't of Gotten this Awesome Fight😂

Originally henshaw was good person, as we saw in the 1st movie, but here he is brainwashed by darkseid to belive things othewise

Yungboigotenks Ah, shit...

Then he beats up skinny smashmouth/ guy fierri.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL HE DOES LOOK LIKE GUY FIERRI WITH THE STUPID HAIR

that’s actually one of my favorite lines in the trilogy. You can feel the scene! It’s dope!

Last chance GOOOOOO

TheGamingArtist /Calvin Moore Indeed

bro I know. people complain about mos because they were casulties. like he suppose to beat the vilain, save the building and a dog on the other side of the planet

Bullshit, people blame Batman all the time for the actions of his villians. The difference is Batman is willing to take responsibility for it. Superman of all people gives the most useless excuse ever, "he's just one man".

Shadow The Human are you of the impression that DC does live action Films. The DCEU is all WB. Sure DC advises them but WB and their mandates messes it up. Unlike their animated ventures DC has no control over cinematic films. In fact you should be hoping that DC starts making films. Because WB doesn't know what they are doing.

Or hire a better CGI unit..and get Snyder back.

@@Skeletoncross they are too brief for a live action film

P J Cgi? Mate did you fucking watch Aquaman?

Agree with you here.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Lame line.

Its also the most overused line in all entertainment

It's not anime...

@@tungavidyavijaya8960 Irrelevent.

There it is, I was looking for this comment!

@@tungavidyavijaya8960 it’s a reference…

Shyre It is

Probably best to stay there when a psycho cyborg pretending to be Superman is right in front of you.

@@hellstrom4209 lol ikr 😂😂😂

@@hellstrom4209 I would rather want to die than play pretend games with him.

@@JordanWheeler1999 but if you're lois lane considering how injustice works I'd say best not to die

@@itsjustvin7630 well first off your talking about the real superman avenging her death and killing the joker... This isn't even the real superman?

Ikr, Slippin Jimmy did it all

😂😂😂 love this comment 😂😂😂

That's exactly what they did in ZSJL

That Superman is the same of movie the death of Superman of 2018?

Agree with 100 percent in this comment.

I still remember the time he was suicidal

no he isnt, hes an angry asshole taking his pain out on people who dont deserve it. being somewhat sympathetic dosen't make you a good villain

Betatron "Hank" is Henry Henshaw's (New-Earth) nickname.

He’s just having a temper tantrum and blaming his idol for his own failings as a leader and husband.

Are you inserting logic?👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Bank's an idiot

Yeah, but he blames Supes because he didn't save him and his crew

@@layowebber9178 There's also the possibility that Darkseid *may* have tinkered with his brain to be on the safe side.

If only logic could go threw DC'S or cartoons minds

The crushed rubble is far more malleable now, she could easily use her other hand to pull it out lol

Her hand is small enough to escape

THANK YOU

That metal bar was wide enough for anyone to escape.

Lois should shut the fuck up and stay in the background. This is the type of damsel in Distress people I hate. They think they can be so tough and act like they're invincible and think the villain won't easily kill them.

Rigor Berzerk why should she shut the fuck up? She has a point. Cyborg Superman. Is nothing more than a colossal Metal baby throwing a temper tantrum. Lois has been kidnapped several times by super villains with far more reasonable motives, that in comparison cyborg superman is nothing more than a joke to her. That’s why I love Lois Lane. She takes shit from no one

Agree with you here.

Yes

That’ll be Howard hamlin

This man went through so much trauma so fast. He's missing his wife and is still in grieving. He also lost nearly all of his human body. I think anyone would be a crazed state if that happened.

@@potatogeneral4072 you do realize it's his fault? His wife told him "we have to go" his response was "no we can wait, cause Superman will save us"

@@TheRuneTail I'm not saying it's not his fault or that he's in the right. I'm saying that he's not thinking straight cause of everything that happened to him in quick succession. He knows he could have easily got them out of there before things went tits up. He's lashing out cause he knows this

Whoa Whereami Agreed

@@whimsinator2982 Who's Louis? Also, Superman never promised he'd be there for everybody, only that he'd help where he can. That means that if he's too busy saving some people, others might not make it. You can't be in two places at once.

Supes schuldet der Welt, seiner einzigen Welt, alles.

VS Mileena Another face too repulsive to eat On your knees Henkshaw or Shang Tsung will erase Terri's soul VS Rain You're clearly worse than Argus VS Spawn Careful now. Terri might become the next Hellspawn VS Kabal What the hell did Terri see on you? VS Kung Lao End this Henkshaw! Nothing can revive your wife! VS Jade By the Gods, YOU LET DARKSEID REDUCE YOU TO THIS?!

Darkseid didn’t create doomsday

@@killstreak8 Exactly. Doomsday is a Kryptonian that was experimented on and killed over and over again.

Charles Doyle he’s just a marvel fan

@@killstreak8 you guys realize in this movie, Darkseid does fucking say that he used Doomsday as a weapon to kill Superman. I didn't like it either, cuz I knew this was very different.. but that's still how it was.

Or just say, "No, they're dead so who cares what they want". Or "No, but it's what I want".

"They left me a script and I'm following it."

My favorite subversion of this trope was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Giles says to Dark Willow is this what Tara would want? Dark Willow: Why don't you ask her yourself? Proceed to drop half a wall onto him!!!

I don't get it.

@@pikira2246 you know when superman dies and when he cones back to life he says "i love you" and that will convince louise that it's clark.

Louise lmaoooo louuuu ee sss

@@ClavinZKL you know its in reference to the last movie death of superman lol

@@henrynguyen3965 it happens everytime lol

Yep.

"I was sent back in time to stop Clark Kent."

Stephanie Ford He was bleeding because he wasn’t fully recovered. But in the comics Superman doesn’t bleed unless got weakend by Kryptonite.

*Lois

Yeah cause it's a good idea to trigger a murderous robotic Superman standing right in front of you lmao

Sound doesn't travel in space; superman literally had no way of knowing any of this was going on. This is actually brought up elsewhere (in the comics at least), as it's why Hal Jordan doesn't realise Coast City is being messed up while he's in orbit.

Ultra Boy1000 agreed I think Henshaw knew that darkseid would say no and possibly even mock him for asking.