Very Cool to see you go from Vudoo to CZ. I have been running CZ and always wanted to give a vudoo a go but I honestly just LOVE how smooth this thing is. You cannot go wrong with a cz457 for the money.
Thanks Zak! Yep, still loving the rifle...Shot a match this past weekend and placed 5th out of 35 shooters which is great for me! CZ ran flawlessly and I outshot a fellow shooter in a head to head quick clean challenge which was part of the match because this thing is so smooth as you said. Thanks for watching my friend!
OUTSTANDING content Bud!! I am Shocked to see how accurate that build is. Un-bloody-real!.. thanks for this upload.. you saved me a TON of money (which of course i will immediately spend on ammo - no escape hahaha)
Hi John! Man thanks for the kind words, and glad I was able to help you out! Hate to say it, but I've actually gone to a Bergara B14-R, just because I did miss having a 700 footprint action, but believe me, the CZ was an absolute joy to shoot. I'll have the Bergara review soon, and thanks for watching my friend!
Great channel! Thanks for the response. I have a Vudoo Apparition and I always felt that Vudoo stakes it pride on feeding without the projectile touching a feed ramp etc…. That said I have way more experience with my go to groundhog gun the CZ pro varminter in 16.5 “ barrel shooting the CCI 1050’s. I love that gun!
Wish you the best of luck with the new rifle. Hope you continue to have trouble free extraction and feeding. I am getting a full custom build but it won't be ready till September I hope.😅 enjoy your channel
Hi Brian! Thanks for the kind words my friend! The funny thing is that I already moved on to a Bergara B14R...Got everything working on the CZ but just missed the 700 footprint. I'd still recommend the CZ WAY OVER the Bergara, but it is now running fine so all good. Thanks for watching my friend!
I've git a CZ 455 in PDC Chassis,CZ 455 MTR in Wood Stock,Savage Mark II in Boyd's stock and a Ruger Precision in stock chassis and the Ruger is the smoothest bolt and shoots equally as well as the previous 3 with SK Match Longe.Ive shot head up with 3 other Guys shooting Voodois from 50 yds to 330 yards and 2 others at 600 .yds.With all that said none of these will shoot with my Stiller and Lija barrel. Great Video. THANK YOU
Because of being a Lefty I had to try the Vudoo 1st, then RimX, and now CZ457 and Anschutz 1761. The Vudoo had a very ruff chamber and throat which after many rounds (even with super regular cleaning) gradually became impossible to be reliable- sent back to Vudoo and they wanted to ream out the chamber and blamed me. Sold back to Vudoo. RimX was a nightmare with FTF, FTE even after multiple trips to RimX and a new receiver .... sold and forgot about ASAP! CZ 457 lefty Varmint is very good with reliability with feeding and extracting - better than either the two above. Accuracy is as good or (mostly) better than Vudoo and RimX at 100+ yards. The action is sweet (out of the box) and faster than 90 degree Rem Actions in Vudoo and (by a large margin) RimX. The action design super well thought out and easy customizable. Just Love It ! The Anschutz action not as fast and not as reliable. Also limited to 5 rnd mags. ....err but is my most accurate 22lr I have shot! Last but not least! The shit-load of money $$$ for the Vudoo and or RimX is silly stupid compared to CZ 457 or even the Anschutz 1761. Unfortunately made in USA with custom rifle makers (vudoo/Rimx)are more fluff than puff in the cold light of day. IMHO this was super disappointed!
HI AWF! I hope your last statement wasn't that you were disappointed in my video? If so, then sorry. I have to agree that so far I'm loving my CZ and have shot very well in competition with it. I may look at a Bergara as well just to give everyone a good idea of the options out there. Just not into the Anschutz as you mentioned because I think they are more for bench rest than PRS and I see no one running them. Also agree that Vudoo is losing favor with shooters like us, who expect what they say we'll get for that much money. Anyway, thanks for watching my friend and shoot straight!
@@The4GunGuy I loved your video. The your experience is simular to mine with Vudoo ... and because CZ, anschutz ... started a year a go importing leftys I finally found decent 22lr rifles. Just like you I learned the hard way with boutique brands (Vudoo). I guess I was not alone so thank you ! PS: The Bergara I had, had a great 90 degree action but a crap barrel. Thanks Again ! CC
Hi from Australia, love the video, I have Two CZ 457's, they are both set up for NRL22. One has a 22" IBI Barrel and it is in an MTD ACC Premier chasis, the other has a 24" CZ barrel and is in an MTD XRS chasis. I be looking forward to your updates on the CZ journey, cheers.
Hi Jesse! Nothing wrong with the CZ 457 at all my friend! And you don't need to trick it out as much as I have. I will say that the barrel by Larry Deese has made a huge difference in the accuracy. Thanks for watching!
I agree fully with what you say I would not spend a lot of money on that gun to make it shoot better it should group a lot better than it was and has nothing to do with putting a can on, sometimes it changes the point of impact slightly but doesn't throw it inches out al the best from England keep the videos coming.
Beaut little rifle. CZs have to be the most reliable feeding rimfires. Nothing worse than feeding issues for PRS. My vudoo 360 is in a KRG whisky 3 and feeds floorlessly….I may have just got lucky thank god. Keep ‘em coming cheers!
Hi Luke! Yeah, my problem is, I love that ACC chassis and just can't switch to anything else, so glad I went with the CZ, but, that Vudoo is a good rifle. Thanks for watching my friend!
I love my cz457s I have 3 of these and all of these rifles shoot lights out with center x and sk standard plus. Man that is some good no great shooting brother. I have three cz457s target rifles and the barrels that came on the gun. These are the best rifles I ever seen. Beagleman
HI Vinny! Yeah, I think they're both really good rifles, I think the chassis was the issue, but I just can't leave that ACC chassis I love it so much! Thanks for watching my friend!
Funny you should say that Geordie, I have a ton of Center-x and SK Match and am thinking of selling the Center-x and getting even more SK Match because like you, my rifle loves it and it's cheaper. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy SK belongs to Lapua. SK used to make third rate ammo before Lapua took over in the early nineties. Now they are both part of the Nammo group.
@@geordiegeorge9041 Yep, that's why both Center-x and SK Match have the "snot lube" on the bullets. My Tikka T1x loved the waxed Eley ammo, but not my new barrel.
Hello, a very interesting video. I too have a CZ457 MTR in an MDT ACC chassis. However, except for the chassis on the gun, everything has remained original. In Europe we have very limited options to convert a rifle as the aftermarket is very limited. Parts would have to be imported from the USA, which on the one hand takes an extremely long time and on the other hand becomes very expensive. I also have the "short" magazine lever problem on my rifle. Unfortunately, a longer magazine lever is not available in Europe. An import from the USA would cost about 200 USD. Thus, I have to come to terms with this disadvantage. Regarding bolt action problems, I can only report that it has not occurred on my rifle so far, despite shooting about 2000 rounds. Many greetings from Austria, Hans
Hello Hans! I'm going to do a follow-up video on the machining my friend did for me on the ACC chassis so I can now get to the standard mag release (I still use an extended though). Bummer that it's so expensive for you to upgrade, but you could give it to someone to machine, right? Or are there laws against that? Danke fürs zuschauen mein freund!
@@The4GunGuy I'm interested to see the machining that was done in the magwell to improve access to the mag catch. I looked in the videos but didn't see it there.
Very interesting you made the switch to a 457, where I did the opposite. I suspect you're correct in saying the feeding issues were probably the ACC not having the proper adjustments to get it perfectly set up. I've been very happy with my Vudoo, but I agree the 457 is generally more reliable than any 700 footprint RF. Is your Triggercam going to be sent back to fix the battery issue? One of my biggest complaints about it is the fact that the battery is factory sealed and not user-replaceable!
HI Womfat! Regarding the CZ switch, yeah, I was just really tired of messing with the Vudoo. I'm really finding that it's the barrel and the ammo for technical accuracy. All other things (chassis/stock, trigger, tuner, etc...) help the shooter (yes, I said tuner). I finally sent the TriggerCam back for the battery, but I actually should have sent it back way sooner for the App fix. I understand that apps need to be updated and I had done all that but still couldn't get it to show up on my mobile or iPad. They were very nice about it, BUT, when I got the new unit as I think I said in the video, I needed to go to HD to get a longer screw to tighten it down on my ZCO. Hey thanks for watching my friend!
The only problem I see with the CZ457 is the design of the magazine well.. if they would redesign the magazines and the mag well it would make mag changes during reloading so much easier.
Hi Eagle Eye! I'm assuming he did. I don't know what torque value he used but have read that 30/30 is a good place to start. Thanks for watching as usual my friend!
I just bought a 457 varmint (non MTR) and plan to do pretty much what you have done here. You have proved here that going the customization route can achieve as good (actually better) results than buying a Vudoo or RimX or Anschutz. Besides it is more fun. I will first try a YoDave trigger spring before swapping for a Timney. What is your headspace with that barrel?
Hi CAC! Yeah, at the end of the day I saved about $1,000 going with the CZ which is the cost of the Vudoo barreled action. Very happy with the accuracy and bolt operation as well. I can reach out to my gunsmith and ask about the headspace, but since he reamed it with the bullet seated IN the lands quite a bit to reduce flyers (and it works), there is most likely minimal headspace. Thanks for watching my friend!
@@The4GunGuy Ah, that tells me the gunsmith reamed as a tight match chamber. Excellent! My understanding is that headspace is measured at the rim, not like centerfire cartridges at the tip. Some ammo has a thicker rim and is hard to chamber. But the match chambers are tighter so the bullet touches (jams?) the lands. It pays to go with one of these aftermarket barrels. I am considering a Lilja. Nice video, and I am a new subscriber.
How does MDT sell a chassis for the CZ457 and not address the mag release not being able to reach it inside their magwell without providing a proper extender?
Hi Steven! Great question. I just don't understand it. If you've had complaints about it, then just say it doesn't work for the CZ457 on your website and tell people to purchase the Oryx chassis, which is a "good" chassis, but not PRS level. Thanks for watching my friend!
Hi Jonathan! I did tune the trigger but could only get down to ~2.0 lbs. I run a Bergara B14R now with a Bixn' Andy trigger set to 8.0 oz, which is the weight that works best for me in competition. Thanks for watching my friend!
This makes no sense. It’s like winning a gold medal and having it bronzed. Feeding issues may be because the Vudoo actually seats the round in the rifling the last 1mm. CZ is a great gun but not even close to the Vudoo it terms of smoothness and overall rock solid build. You’ve essentially taken a CZ and turned it back into a Vudoo. Love my Vudoo for target and CZ 457 pro varmint for groundhogs!
Hi Cojiii! I think the larger issue with all these rifles is that when we purchase them, we immediately 'upgrade' them with a new barrel, chassis/stock, trigger, etc..., changing the original operation of the rifle in a good or bad way. My biggest complaint with the Vudoo was the feeding issues with my new barrel, which was far more accurate than the Kukri barrel that came with the rifle, and I just got tired of tinkering with the thing. The issue with the CZ ended up being the MDT ACC chassis and it's lack of room to reach the mag release and not having other good options for chassis that I would like. I'm running a Bergara B14 now, in a MPA Matrix Pro chassis with the same barrel you see in this video and it is running great. Now, I had to have my gunsmith virtually rebuild the Bergara bolt because it's so bad out of the box, but I now have confidence in my 22LR. The Vudoo is a great rifle, no question about it, but it just didn't work out for me. Thanks for watching my friend!
Hi Josh, I can reach out to my gunsmith and ask, but since he reamed it with the bullet seated IN the lands quite a bit to reduce flyers (and it works), there is most likely minimal headspace.
If vidoo was a good company they should have recalled them in my opinion especially at the price they are no excuses for that many people having issues
Hi OneGuy! Yeah, that's why I've moved on to the CZ 457. Other guys run Vudoos with no issues, and I think a lot of my issues from a loading perspective was with the chassis, BUT the other issues were the action itself so decided to switch. Thanks for watching my friend!
Great shooting on that CZ. Barrels makes a huge difference in accuracy. Wondering if it is the mdt chassis causing feeding issues on the vudoo. Have my vudoo in a mpa and have not had any issues with feeding.
Hi Ray! Yeah, I think that ACC was part of it...BUT, when Vudoo says the reason that action works with all those 700 SA chassis is because "We know those dudes", then I expect it to work. Anyway, loving the CZ now! Hey thanks for watching as usual Ray!
Hey Ryan! Good point, but it all really boils down to the action...Period. We buy the action that we hope with work for us and then build around it. A stock CZ AT1 doesn't stand a chance in PRS competition, so we upgrade the stock/chassis, add the scope mount so we can reach out beyond the normal 250 yd range of the stock rifle, add a better trigger to reduce the trigger weight from 4 lbs down to 8 oz, and change out the barrel so we can accurately reach out to 450 yds if needed. BUT, to your point, if all you want to do is plink or shoot prairie dogs at 150 yds, then the stock AT1 will suit you well. Thanks for watching my friend!
Hi Dayattherange! I sold the CZ about a year ago and went with a Bergara, which gave me all sorts of trouble until my gunsmith did extensive work on the bolt. Seems as though every rifle has its issues today! Thanks for watching my friend!