You gotta admit, he'd make a better mastermind. Just think 'bout it : being with the party for most of the campaign, he could plant false clues that'd lead his best(unintended) minions into taking out his rivals for world domination. He doesn't have to control the whole world, just enough of the economy to have a say in making policies. And what's REALLY scary is, that the players themselves helped to do it. There's an old adage that goes: "The road to Hell is paved with the good intentions of well-meaning people..."
While it is a bit cheesy, having a whole 'you caused this!' moment, it would fit into narrative quite well. Would be a faaaaar better sudden twist bad guy then just... some guy.
Problem is, the player still plans on playing, so he couldn't force his character to be the secret villain without his consent. Having split personality is a great idea for this situation, though.
Said kidnapping *scientists*, stealing *information* and robbing innocent *people*, not murdering everybody to see what they drop. Magic Kim-Jong-Un is way more sensible.
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i seem to remember at least one story where the villain really WAS another player! or at least a renegade adventurer, with PC abilities. NOT counting stories where a party member betrayed them.
I mean yeah, if you can have a literal car in a medieval setting, why not the internet? Like... a car. If those war machines were in different places and in mass amounts, surely you can make a computer.
Ancient or Antiquities setting would be too unbelievable. Medieval? Crystal Balls, glass is cheap and Guttenberg Press teaches everyones magic. Donesies. Palantir are busted.
You can have an outright factory tower making a crystal approx 1x monthly 10 a year. Have them in business for 100 years. 1000 crystals = 1000 chances for powerful wizards or Aladdins to have these things every 100 years. Make yourself a 300 yr campaign story. Have the last 50 - 20 years increase production to 100 a year. 250 x 10 , + 50 x 100 7500. Yeah enough for an actual internet. Set the basic worldbuilding rules to "every 500 years 10 thousand crystal balls get made of a varying powers and quality and durability." Then the Year 1500 +R (reckoned from Whatever Event) has 30,000 crystal balls - 1% entropy per decade from breakage stolen lost at sea corruption yadda yadda yadda Let's stop doing the math correctly here: 1% of 30k = 300 x 150 decades they would still all be gone by year 1500 so this just helps defend to your table that this many could exist in this timeframe. You have to do the math yourself for entropy to determine how many are left in whatever year you are in. At the Height of Wizardry you could have a Wizardnet.
@@SaKaToX Clearly he started by becoming mayor of a small town that was besieged by cultist, a position he got elected into because he appealed to all the classes. Then the city just kept on growing and growing until it became its own nation.
@@SaKaToX Ben drew the leader of Magic-North-Korea similarly to his DND character Abserd, mentioned in a couple of his stories. Kim Jong-Un is the current leader of North Korea.
My husband is a musician and is out of town often, so we wrote narcolepsy into his character story. So every time he has to miss a session his character is just knocked hella unconscious 😂
We had an elf paladin do that cause our player couldn't show up due to work. Thankfully we had a wagon and stored her body when she was in a deep slumber XD I'm glad others do this too
I had that for one of my players because she started her shifts at 4am, so would usually fall asleep mid game. Narcolepsy in real life, might as well add it to the game.
@@eric_moore-6126 The one who decided to light children on fire is though Only 2 pcs were replaced as a result of that... event. Which means 2-4 of the original party still are present. After all, they are still known as the W.O.R.S.T
"Now, I'm sure you're wondering why if he couldn't make it to that session, we didn't just reschedule for a day when he *could* make it. ...Well, that WAS the reschedule day." I *felt* that. I used to have to reschedule so many sessions (and then reschedule the reschedules) that I finally snapped two years ago and started a policy that I'm just going to run sessions on the agreed-on night every week, no matter who did (or didn't) show up. If only one player shows up? Cool, that player gets to have a one-on-one session where they get all the loot for themself (and/or some NPCs to help them with whatever I had planned). None of the players show up? I'll make some rolls for the NPCs, and write a little story about what the side-characters have been up to. Surprisingly, players have been pretty consistent on showing up after I began enforcing that rule.
I am quite a busy person, so I try to plan ahead. The others in my party only seem to be able to tell me if they are free 3 days before the session and we had to reschedule the finale to one of our campaigns three times because of lack of communication.
That sounds like a decent idea. Personally I just try and make sure my players are free enough before starting the campaign and then run regularly on the same day, it helps a lot.
I run a very small D&D group, only three players. Because of this, it's rare that someone can't make a session, due to the decreased chance of any one person having something on. However, if someone can't make it, that's a whole third of the party gone, so we simply stop the campaign temporarily, and run a one-shot while they're away. It works well with three, but the moment we hit four players the schedule issues increase, so we often have to push on without a fourth player whenever the group size grows.
Had this in College. We all lived in the same town on the same campus but events, meetings, late classes, people going home on weekends, etc. made it a nightmare. Basically if 4-5/6 could make it we'd run the session. Otherwise, an /attempt/ was made to reschedule.
@@Arucan Yeah, I think being able to know your own schedule and then communicate it to other people is really important. Nothing annoys me like a player knowing full well that he can't make a session a week in advance but waiting until hours before the session to tell me.
@@webbowser8834 Palpatine could work, if it was set up at all, had a solid conclusion, was done with consistency & continuity in mind, decently utilized or executed, had any influence on the story at all besides fan bait, etc.
@@pubcle There was def a way to execute Palpatine coming back, pretty much any plot can work with good enough execution, but it's clear that it didn't work for them.
*Ben:* It turns out, the leader you just defeated... really was the leader! You ended the war! *Players:* So... he wasn't the underling of someone else we've met before? *Ben:* Nope! *Players:* And this isn't some sort of dream? *Ben:* Nope! *Players:* And this guy really was the bad guy, we weren't tricked into defeating someone who was really doing good? *Ben:* Nope! *Players:* ... wow, we genuinely weren't expecting that. We thought there would be some sort of twist. That is legitimately the most shocking, unexpected, thing we have ever experienced in any of your campaigns. *Ben:* .......he was a former, legendary, hero under a curse that turned him evi... *Players:* GOD DAMN KNEW IT!
"Somoth Erguy" : The newest BBEG in my campaign. He as a powerful enchantment of mundanity on him and is nearly impossible to remember or to pick out of a crowd...
Thankfully our player who has this problem is a super edgy assassin, so when he can't be with us we just describe his disappearence in black smoke as he goes somewhere to complete a new assassination mission.
Only a communist traitor would question the brilliance of magic north korea. Please go to the nearest suicide booth for summary execution. Have a nice and productive day!
Literally the only thing making me not want to play that campaign... and yes they're ripped straight from Mad Max because "Avernus is a barren wasteland."
I absolutely asked for this. This is the greatest thing, and I love it, and I am the one they were thinking of when they thought "players would love this!" Because I love war machines
This is exactly how my party dealt with my character. I couldn't attend every session, so I made an annoying character so they could just ignore my characters existence haha
Maybe since they're playing homebrew, Otty Otterton used a... really really advanced version of the lvl 1 spell "control" but with lots of words! Then, he used it on "another guy!" How evil of him.
I might have had the guy who kept getting left behind come charging in on a war machine at the 11th hour if possible. Or use that to explain how he managed to keep catching up with them.
“The real villain was... some other guy!!!!” Wow... if it weren’t for the fact that Palpatine was an established villain, that’s also how the Disney trilogy ended XD
@@WildBluntHickok One time I tried (Tried and failed? - Tried and died.) to learn the rules of cricket by reading them. There is not just one set of rules, I think. And it was rather dense and I have since lost it all.
Hmmmmm I would like to meet this leader of magic north Korea he reminds me of a guys I heard about he was quite an abserd fellow he had many powers that could perhaps free an immortal villain imprisoned in an outer plane plotting some GREAT EVIIL
"I'm actually..." (Rips off mask) "Another man!!" My brother came up with this twist in a story he made when he was like... 5. We used to make fun of him for it entirely too much.
4:51 What's hilarious about this is that I'm reading the Witcher books right now and there is scene where a sorceress uses a large diamond to artificer-craft herself a device that allows her to basically do "Facetime" with other mages and *it is played completely straight.*
See, the people not showing up to campaigns thing can go so many different ways. My campaign just did a thing where, if you didn't show up, your character sort of lost some of their personality and became an NPC played by the DM. However, we got really lucky, as our campaign showed up to the regularly scheduled meet up time every week with really good consistency, but the other campaign never showed up. Our entire campaign stuck with it the whole time, everyone else just showed up sporadically and ran one shots on their one while we continued our storyline
HA!!! amazing. i had a bit of a GMPC that i shoved into my star wars RPG game when the PCs needed a mentor figure or were a man down for a puzzle i created. his name... ADAN MARR!
But it was actually some other guy with no hints on his existence ever who just kind if showed up. Sounds like how Kaguya Otsutsuki replaced Madara Uchiha.
Man, I feel bad for that one guy that can never come because that's been me before and it sucks, because you want to play and you just can't because you have other things to do.
