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Daedelus compares the Roland TR-808 vs. TR-8 

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Daedelus, one of LA's most-loved electronic music producers and performers, showcases the evolution of the TR-808-inspired Roland TR-8 Rhythm Performer and also gives a brief overview of alternative beat structures in a talk originally delivered for the 2nd Low End Theory Festival on 8.08.15.
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@bflagg94
@bflagg94 6 лет назад
Daedelus was sampled by Madlib on Madvilliany, everyone best show some respect for this beautiful amish man!
@MrPs103
@MrPs103 6 лет назад
A creative savant with a swagger that folks these days can't understand. Always going with the flow, never willing to step out and be their own person. Thank you for showing us a bit of who you are, Daedelus.
@Shivotheque
@Shivotheque 4 года назад
straight out of a Wes Anderson movie kinda swag....cool
@tonyhodge6382
@tonyhodge6382 5 лет назад
I love this guy and particularly his comment and facial expression at 7:00 when he says: "allows for all kind of strange unknowables. I'm interested in that stuff." God bless him.
@foodandmoney
@foodandmoney 4 года назад
This man is not speaking garbage, people. This isn't a specs and stats comparison like you may be used to. This is a creative comparison. Don't be turned away by a little philosophy, use it to think differently. Try and understand what Daedelus is actually trying to discuss with you.
@donaldpriola1807
@donaldpriola1807 8 лет назад
I love the philosophy of this demo. It also gives proper respect and context for the TR-8, which is a great machine. He's a true artist who doesn't care about the labels "analog" or "digital".
@TheRadChannel
@TheRadChannel 7 лет назад
I just sat here for 13 minutes... It was like a black hole... I don't even know what happened... There was a pilgrim and...
@laurajohnson4086
@laurajohnson4086 6 лет назад
This video just sucks
@senseicuttitup3722
@senseicuttitup3722 6 лет назад
Yoooo at 3 mins and 13 seconds I read your comment and was died :-D :-D hahahahahahaha oh sheit
@figarostanislav
@figarostanislav 6 лет назад
bruh just happen to me right now smh
@laurajohnson4086
@laurajohnson4086 6 лет назад
ikr ... "There was a pilgrim" ... I just died
@supergye6480
@supergye6480 6 лет назад
I'm still trying to figure out who ate half of this pilgrim's tie!
@ontology3
@ontology3 4 года назад
this man is amazing, it's a shame that so many people in here seem to despise him.
@iSapien1956672
@iSapien1956672 3 года назад
You have to be able to appreciate the madness to understand the genius.
@sumoslap1973
@sumoslap1973 3 года назад
Man is a living legend
@chrisbaron70
@chrisbaron70 3 года назад
He’s original and innovative that’s why,
@terrastudios_
@terrastudios_ 3 года назад
He describes these seemingly simple devices in such a poetic and intricate way. I love his appreciation for all the little details, as well as his creativity and drive. Really helps you see the beauty in making sound.
@akuro2685
@akuro2685 8 лет назад
In case you didn't know, that little device to the left is the Delaydelus, a magic piece of hardware collab between Daedelus and Bleep Labs that can record, playback, and delay pieces of audio! Check it out
@SeanSullivanArt
@SeanSullivanArt 8 лет назад
I love watching him perform. When everything locks into place, out of chaos, he is just as surprised as the audience. Its like hes not in charge and just there to hear it too. haha
@hershiekopper
@hershiekopper 8 лет назад
I have never thought that in my life I would witness an amish using a drum machine. simply breathtaking.
@EchoDealTV
@EchoDealTV Год назад
The trick with combining two drum machines / sequencers with some reactivity is one of the ways I sometimes go. That's a refreshing example of moving out of the grid with machines, allowing to set a new central rhythm point to get around.
@clemson7777
@clemson7777 8 лет назад
This guy is so weird that I actually kind of like him.
@muhmullet
@muhmullet 8 лет назад
Once again, Daedelus shows us how beautiful it can be to interact with the soundscape. Thank you.
@Tune4media
@Tune4media 8 лет назад
Sounds cool! I like that more "philosophic" approach towards these machines
@Shivotheque
@Shivotheque 4 года назад
exactly...
@CayenneTravels
@CayenneTravels 7 лет назад
That video was awesome. Thank you Daedelus!
@christophemillertime
@christophemillertime 8 лет назад
This dude loves his craft and he seems to be very humble. He is a true musician in my opinion. The way he speaks about humanizing computer music hits home. Its my major concern with where music is going, we need breathe, just like you find in playing real instruments such as how a violin and harmonica can cry or a guitar can sing and talk.
@mintlifesava
@mintlifesava 8 лет назад
I've met him in person and he is incredibly humble. Very much an inspiration to myself and many others
@pytheus
@pytheus 2 года назад
Bravo and thank you Daedelus!! Quite impressive as I can't get even close to these output results with the same gear!
@machiwoomiapoo
@machiwoomiapoo 8 лет назад
I love it. I finally will have both by the end of the week. So many sweet drum sounds! :)
@khabug
@khabug 8 лет назад
It's so great to be able to look into Daedelus's creative process :) He manages to tread a very fine line between chaos and order, and I like that a lot.
@rudegunz
@rudegunz 7 лет назад
very nicely done . nice hints of the interspective of man and machine .both poetic and philosophical .a true artist ,with a grip .that has an authentic understanding to properly articulate
@85percentcocoa
@85percentcocoa 8 лет назад
loved this thank you
@JasonValentineFL
@JasonValentineFL 4 года назад
Interesting video. Thank you for your unique insight on these two machines.
@tomesmusic
@tomesmusic 8 лет назад
really great video - thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@djsarumawashi
@djsarumawashi Год назад
THANKS for Sharing. Greetings from Cabo Verde Islands. Cheers
@twotone27304
@twotone27304 8 лет назад
Amazing as always! One of the first guys I followed on SoundCloud years ago.
@DaJungleDred
@DaJungleDred 3 года назад
Yes Yes 👍 Thank you - You make the two machines sound fluid and organic. Really enjoyed this
@TheHotFalafel
@TheHotFalafel 8 лет назад
He's the Willy Wonka of electronic music.
@adamjcohn
@adamjcohn 4 года назад
He just needs to make an electronic version of The Everlasting Gobstopper. At one point, I was either like "this guy loves train wrecks" or" he is trying to show me something I don't understand". Either way for my eclectic taste, those two being so out of tempo with each other was making me nuts. His explanation of breath was good. He seems like he knows what he was talking abbot but every time I was like "What the?!?" was when he had on the biggest smile. Do what you like. There is an audience for everyone. Create. I feel like I should own his 808 though. ;)
@Smegma_pirate
@Smegma_pirate 3 года назад
@@adamjcohn they weren’t out of time your just a club guy
@sumoslap1973
@sumoslap1973 3 года назад
@@adamjcohn Daedalus can do whatever he wants because at the end of the day he did accordion for Madvillainy... nuff said
@dukescomics
@dukescomics 6 лет назад
Thank YOU for the master class A.D.!
@TwoThreadsAhead
@TwoThreadsAhead 8 лет назад
I love how In love with it all he is, I wish more people spoke with conviction like him too.
@AnastasisGrammenos
@AnastasisGrammenos 8 лет назад
What is that thingy connected with the 2 R/L cables at the left of the screen?
@mintlifesava
@mintlifesava 8 лет назад
It's a delaydelus
@kimbobaloola7932
@kimbobaloola7932 8 лет назад
So the TR8 is there to serve the 808 and enhance be used together?? Or it works independently to the 808 and is a much lower level budget version???? ::))
@AllyKiss18
@AllyKiss18 5 лет назад
I like this, the guy is unique and he explains music in a more emotional and abstract way. For all the idiots making stupid comments on him- this is what music is about, feel, emotion, an abstract outlook. This commercial crap of today doesn’t equate any of that.
@ryananthony4840
@ryananthony4840 2 года назад
Where did you get the skin for the TR 8 to make it look like an 808?
@Funkbutterfly
@Funkbutterfly Год назад
gotta give props to roland for rolling with this
@cliffnboyzy
@cliffnboyzy 2 года назад
Where do you get the skin for the tr8?
@Jocepos
@Jocepos 7 лет назад
Hey Roland, how come this TR-8 has a different overlay (Looks more like 808) compared to the AIRA TR8 style overlay? Are these stick on or a different edition?
@Jocepos
@Jocepos 7 лет назад
Nevermind, I have seen the overlay panels - they look very cool! synthgraphics.com/Roland-TR8-TR808-TR909.html
@QuixoteX
@QuixoteX 7 лет назад
"It is the sound of the future. It has been for quite some time." Haha
@AlbertSirup
@AlbertSirup 7 лет назад
you had me at airhorn
@mCKENIC
@mCKENIC 8 лет назад
I LOVE the overlay on Daedelus' Tr-8... is that something that is available please?
@TheTobiasVaughn
@TheTobiasVaughn 7 лет назад
I'm a massively budget conscious bedroom producer. Over the years I've had several 808 style patterns and ideas floating around. I tried to do some of them on VSTs years ago, and they sounded a bit thin, flat and lacking. I tried to coax my Volca Beats to do some of it and worked my guts out to try to get it somewhat okay -- even though the snare drum on the Beats is definitely not up to scratch for the task, and I had to adapt to make the best of it I could. Got the TR-8 yesterday. And I had my ideas playing through the speakers in less than 3 minutes. In less than 3 minutes from opening the box, I had the first usable drum groove. One that I have tried to create on other machines several times. I know there are other drum machines, with other drum sounds, that are more flexible, more controllable -- but if you want an 808 sound, and you want to quickly get to those ideas -- the TR-8 is the way to go.
@roberttodd2414
@roberttodd2414 2 года назад
well 808 would be the way to go wouldnt it?
@daniel2622
@daniel2622 2 года назад
Really like to see more of daedelus utilizing more hardware based sound sources
@chrisbaron70
@chrisbaron70 3 года назад
Awesome thank you
@arrakisstudio3317
@arrakisstudio3317 8 лет назад
Great video!
@_fig.8
@_fig.8 8 лет назад
i love everything about this. everything.
@brianwyse5810
@brianwyse5810 6 лет назад
whats the little mixer on his right?
@AB_ATT
@AB_ATT 8 лет назад
What is the little box he is using for making noises?
@papi_dummy
@papi_dummy 8 лет назад
Delaydelus
@atraktmillyonzmusic
@atraktmillyonzmusic 8 лет назад
where did you get the skin for it to make it look like the old school layout?
@deadmoldable
@deadmoldable 8 лет назад
whats that effectunit he's using?
@igorfokin586
@igorfokin586 2 года назад
What pedal he use here?
@datbumo
@datbumo 8 лет назад
I wish Daedelus hosted a Saturday morning music show.
@arcanedevice2200
@arcanedevice2200 7 лет назад
Damn awesome vid ! That overlay is nice too
@DjQuienMKTLW
@DjQuienMKTLW 8 лет назад
Some much love in those words... you are always the voice i need listen to ... to make music to...
@LandonBalk
@LandonBalk 8 лет назад
I'm confused, is this a comparison or a romantic evening with the two?
@khabug
@khabug 8 лет назад
Bad title, I think. It's more of a video about the two devices and how the tangible nature of using them can "humanize" electronic music (which is often "computerized", or rigid in its structure)
@user-uo4ys6lb4v
@user-uo4ys6lb4v 4 года назад
😂
@kame5271
@kame5271 8 лет назад
8:12 When Daedelus realized that was fire
@NirvanaSOAD960960
@NirvanaSOAD960960 8 лет назад
The carl sagan of electronic music. XD
@dayglo98
@dayglo98 8 лет назад
lol that was my thought too
@niklasgindler4571
@niklasgindler4571 8 лет назад
But way more pretentious ....
@nofx84
@nofx84 8 лет назад
Maybe, but the dude is one of the nicest people I've ever met. Very humble actually.
@nofx84
@nofx84 7 лет назад
***** sure, ok
@MrCowfood
@MrCowfood 7 лет назад
More to the point he is a cross between Mr. Rogers, Simon in the land of chalk drawings, and Carl Sagan. A land somewhere between King Friday, Henrietta Pussy Cat and Mr. McFeely in the land of make believe with a subtle hint of patronizing playfullness only Rogers could pull off. His necktie, cut as Simon only could, in his analog synth world chalk classroom. Finally, of course exploring the universe in Cosmos the ship traveling from the macroscopic to the microscopic and everything in-between without the deeper understanding of electrons, resistance, and ohms law.
@batmansmk
@batmansmk 8 лет назад
I really like this presentation. It is just different, calm and actually much more to the point that it seems.
@Thumolero
@Thumolero 8 лет назад
That was great.
@johanvancauteren6203
@johanvancauteren6203 7 лет назад
Hi there, is the TR 8 compatible with the Roland Jupiter 8? 😏
@geoffmobile
@geoffmobile 8 лет назад
nice demo thank you!!
@enricodetrizio
@enricodetrizio 6 лет назад
what's the sampler he's using?
@tylrbass
@tylrbass 8 лет назад
Very interesting, always interested in what Daedelus has to say. Thanks for the video!
@machinedrum
@machinedrum 8 лет назад
extremely awesome
@SunJaguar72
@SunJaguar72 6 лет назад
Dope! Great explanation.
@tekis0
@tekis0 8 лет назад
Yeah. Where did he get those?
@charlesdaniels1481
@charlesdaniels1481 7 лет назад
What a thoroughly nice and pleasant chap.
@PureAmbientDrone
@PureAmbientDrone 7 лет назад
With all the remakes you would think Roland, Yamaha and others would just re-do them PART FOR PART. Korg got it almost right with the Mini MS20 they did a GREAT job on it, just a little cheap for my taste, but it works!
@iNuchalHead
@iNuchalHead 7 лет назад
Some of the parts might not be mfg'ed anymore. Since these vintage devices were analog, everything matters... if you can't get the same kind of tubes or transistors of the same type, made with the same grade if semiconductor or whatever, then that will have an effect on the signal and it is not the same. OTOH, this can all be digitally modeled, but that's lame. Point is, part-for-part, hand-made is becoming more impossible every day. Only Stradivari made Stradivarius violins, and vintage cannot be faked.
@PureAmbientDrone
@PureAmbientDrone 7 лет назад
Good points there, my dad is a Ham Radio guy and he says they still make the parts in other countries for classic radios, but that's radios, I don't know about the MUSIC stuff of yesterday. The cost would be real high if they had to make that stuff again to build them. But there is still a lot of stuff today being made that IS analog and you would think Roland would go analog like Korg has. Roland made some of the BEST gear out there but their marketing strategy is leading them away from analog. Behringer has even made the leap into analog instruments with the up coming DEEPMIND 12 which I WILL OWN :)
@ditdatzuszo6727
@ditdatzuszo6727 7 лет назад
Pure Ambient Drone they dont make the specific ic's no more.. greetings, a ham diy and roland fetishist
@PureAmbientDrone
@PureAmbientDrone 7 лет назад
Yeah I figured so. I was just yapping about how Roland opted for virtual digital rather than analog gear in their new stuff. I know it would be hard to remake the old stuff perfectly or even slightly. I would love to see Roland make all new analog gear instead of this virtual stuff they been doing. Korg is getting it right.
@spookypen
@spookypen 5 лет назад
Seems Behringer listened.
@Dettol68
@Dettol68 6 лет назад
What a wonderful guy! Love the gear
@ultravirtual5749
@ultravirtual5749 8 лет назад
Awesome vid
@Seeattle
@Seeattle 4 года назад
This is not at all the video I thought I was clicking on to see, but thanks for showing some cool creative ways to program these things
@mrelevenerxi
@mrelevenerxi 8 лет назад
dose any one know where to get those stickers he has on the new tr8 ? (if they r stickers!!)that made it look so much better n vintage like tr808 . let us know pls
@chrisstrobel3439
@chrisstrobel3439 8 лет назад
Man I couldn't even give my 808 away back in the day when the sampled drum machines appeared on the scene. Amazing how desireable these things are these days.
@louismarcell
@louismarcell 8 лет назад
i love this performance he really knows how too controll that mess and craft something very unique !
@poopygirlmusic
@poopygirlmusic 8 лет назад
I've been watching it like twice a day for the past week.
@faunaflage
@faunaflage 6 лет назад
Thusly, an exactment! Still, very much enjoyed this. You be you, Daed.
@Space_Reptile
@Space_Reptile 8 лет назад
this may sound a bit dull , but of all the sounds of the roland , all i really care about is the good ol 808 cowbell , its just that one sound that sounds nothing like what its named after that you heard in so many pieces of music that it just stuck , its the one sound you know the exact name of and its origin
@ramonrojas5816
@ramonrojas5816 8 лет назад
+Justagermannerd Clearly we need more cowbell
@mikelo303
@mikelo303 8 лет назад
Such Character! Thanks!
@tylrbass
@tylrbass 8 лет назад
That little device is so much fun, sampled some gnarly kicks and snares into it and I've basically got a quick finger drumming delay freak out routine to bust out live
@johnmcelroy8453
@johnmcelroy8453 8 лет назад
Wow. I really liked that.
@_Thorsten
@_Thorsten 7 лет назад
Great comparison and what nice spoken words.
@sleeplessinflatland
@sleeplessinflatland 8 лет назад
YES! I LOVE THIS.
@SLINKLYDLINKLY
@SLINKLYDLINKLY 8 лет назад
Daedelus is so passionate Love the guy
@mpoecho6636
@mpoecho6636 3 года назад
Expression 😎👍
@SwissMilk0
@SwissMilk0 8 лет назад
is that a custom tr8 or a new version?
@scowlsmcjowls2626
@scowlsmcjowls2626 7 лет назад
The man is great with words as he is with beats
@pshearduk
@pshearduk 8 лет назад
Really enjoyed this Daedelus vid, so much so I just ordered the delaydelus from Control Voltage in Portland.. I own the TR-8 and I've played with a few 808's over the years.. I wish I owned an original 808, but think if I did it would just become a thing to look at rather than use. Where as I use my TR-8 and TB-3 on a daily basis. I also must confess I had never heard of Daedelus until yesterday and after watching this video 3 or 4 times, I'm quite a fan :) respect due
@christopherclarke3022
@christopherclarke3022 6 лет назад
I enjoyed your description and view of the TR808 and TR8, thank you. I must admit I had never thought of the 808 in the way you described. Your verbal description almost had me believing the 808 almost boarded on having a pseudo personality and sentience. Have you thought of dabbling in poetry? Or being an orator?
@barlimoving7486
@barlimoving7486 8 лет назад
A wondrous time traveler bereft of the sense of the fashions and customs of the day ponders over musical automata, that are as such not yet readily available in the late 18th century and puts them into perspective with the limited understanding of modern technology that he so fervently displays.
@Dubroar
@Dubroar 8 лет назад
Brilliant.
@djwadjet
@djwadjet 8 лет назад
awesome
@gadd1111
@gadd1111 2 года назад
That awesome
@ntotheizm
@ntotheizm 8 лет назад
I love this guy!
@superultrathanksmom3845
@superultrathanksmom3845 8 лет назад
Man, and the video started out so well :(
@thomaschristianmeier
@thomaschristianmeier 6 лет назад
looks good
@dapsg.8068
@dapsg.8068 8 лет назад
Wow. The ratio of appreciators vs. haters. Lol. It's Daedalus! #historylessons #getfamiliar
@YotamPiano
@YotamPiano 6 лет назад
Wow what planet is this guy from?
@aabiii9461
@aabiii9461 8 лет назад
roland 808 = 3000-4000$ (from the internet used) roland tr-8 = 499$ Thanks Roland.
@imthebeatplug_8319
@imthebeatplug_8319 6 лет назад
AABIII94 True 😂👌
@EnochDark
@EnochDark 5 лет назад
$299 in 2018!
@stevieraypage
@stevieraypage 4 года назад
what an amazing person.
@michaelgowman1996
@michaelgowman1996 8 лет назад
Yeah its funny to me that people think that being genuine and articulate is identified as odd or strange. Daedelus is one of the nicest musicians I've met. Plus he's a fucking beast with his own style. Just saying I get it haha.
@MarioBastosmusicproducer
@MarioBastosmusicproducer 8 лет назад
Does it cames with this Tie?
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