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Dagger Burn | Panharmonicon!!! | MTG Historic | Against the Odds 

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Does the return of Panharmonicon mean it's time to burn opponents out of the game by giving them tokens with Dowsing Dagger and Clackbridge Troll in MTG Historic? Let's find out!
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0:34 Deck Tech
6:23 Match 1
12:29 Match 2
19:01 Match 3
24:01 Match 4
37:23 Match 5
41:18 Match 6
47:53 Wrap Up

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@adrianlonghinlam9198
@adrianlonghinlam9198 3 года назад
That oops against UW Teferi feels soooooo good
@gagebrobst5180
@gagebrobst5180 3 года назад
And for a brief moment all was right with the world. xD
@NortheasternGuy
@NortheasternGuy 3 года назад
@Jim Harbor The final game on match 4. Around 32:00
@kakashi37
@kakashi37 3 года назад
That win was amazing
@robertdurant7419
@robertdurant7419 3 года назад
If ya try to BM early, you are just gonna get BM'd in the end.
@andrewwhite2123
@andrewwhite2123 3 года назад
@Jim Harbor it was 36:35 to be exact
@SeanteBrown
@SeanteBrown 3 года назад
Is anyone else NOT AT ALL mad at that oops Seth hit that blue white control deck with? 🤣✊🏾💪🏾
@keepingupwiththejoneses4790
@keepingupwiththejoneses4790 3 года назад
I liked the video because of it.
@ActionGome
@ActionGome 3 года назад
Same
@RA-xz9sy
@RA-xz9sy 3 года назад
He was a terrrrible control player too. You have the advantage, why bring your shields down? And using a counter to not let a 2/2 token die? You’re the control deck. Let them kill your 2/2 who cares? 🤦🏻‍♂️
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 3 года назад
@@RA-xz9sy I actually got my phone to say this... WHAT A HORRIBLE CONTROL PLAYER The opponent has me at a really low life and two curses that drain me for each creature that enters my battlefield? Let me play this enchantment that will create me more creatures when I cast everything in my deck
@maileesaeya3614
@maileesaeya3614 3 года назад
Put it to you this way: I'm a UW Control player. I fist-pumped when Seth did that. As has been pointed out, his opponent was a really bad control player, who was throwing out "oops" at times that basically said "I'm super smug." I reserve oops for my own mistakes, or times when I get the impression of smugness from my opponent (like the impression Seth's opponent gave off).
@skylermccracken1534
@skylermccracken1534 3 года назад
Seth: *keeps two land hands constantly* Also Seth: *Confused why he gets mana screwed*
@Geroaergaroe
@Geroaergaroe 3 года назад
Two lander are fine if you don't intend to cast cmc5 or 6 on curve.
@jrjamesson
@jrjamesson 3 года назад
also playing 20 land is way too few for a deck with no ramp that lives or dies by its 4-5-6-drops. The four glasspools aren't enough.
@gomorrhagaming8151
@gomorrhagaming8151 3 года назад
36:30 Behold the Oops of JUSTICE!
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo 3 года назад
Welp, you got me Seth, I wasn't expecting this to be the first historic panharmonicon deck for historic
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Surprise!
@bigwig8657
@bigwig8657 3 года назад
Dagger burn in a rakdos sac world is bold.
@ExKiwi-yw8er
@ExKiwi-yw8er 3 года назад
Seems like a great matchup to me, ferocidon and curse were amazing.
@JustAnotherPest
@JustAnotherPest 3 года назад
Oh noooooooooo, not fuel for my Priest. Whatever will I do? Kiwi's right, though. Ferocidon is kind of a scary prospect. The random lifegain is actually pretty relevant every now and then.
@Platonic69
@Platonic69 3 года назад
I literally applauded, alone in my room, when he Oops'd the UW Teferi player
@jerzane5617
@jerzane5617 3 года назад
I remember the first time you played Dagger Burn. Really sweet to see this deck again, feels like forever ago! Looks bigger and badder than ever. Edit: I love that you call Clackbridge Clickbait and the Oops was too perfect xD
@willsmidt5715
@willsmidt5715 3 года назад
This deck was so good in standard that they had to ban rampaging ferocidon
@avner0621
@avner0621 3 года назад
no, they banned it because of mono red aggro
@willsmidt5715
@willsmidt5715 3 года назад
@@avner0621 I was joking
@percevalkaradock8486
@percevalkaradock8486 2 года назад
@@avner0621 how people can be so dead serious it was such an obvious joke 😭
@pharon5297
@pharon5297 3 года назад
Against the Oops
@CSDragon
@CSDragon 3 года назад
32:32 Seth's phone struggling to plug in to his computer had me freaking out. I thought my computer was making those noises.
@jekanyika
@jekanyika 3 года назад
same
@adrianordp
@adrianordp 3 года назад
I was using Ubuntu and running Windows on a virtual machine in another screen and my brain bugged so hard!
@wazzledog1007
@wazzledog1007 3 года назад
I'm never getting bored of this strategy. Thanks for bring dagger burn back Seth!
@LucasTheDrgn
@LucasTheDrgn 3 года назад
"Dowsing Dagger, the old school way to give our opponents creatures," *looks at forbidden orchard, crumbles to dust*
@jasoncoates1835
@jasoncoates1835 2 года назад
*Cries in Donate*
@DiogoVKersting
@DiogoVKersting 3 года назад
"Clackbridge"? Who are you, and what have you done to Seth?
@petrsevcik5044
@petrsevcik5044 3 года назад
"We can never kill this Teferi" he says with two removal spells for Teferi in hand, scrying a third one to the bottom...
@stephenhousman6975
@stephenhousman6975 3 года назад
With a revealed Dovin's veto in hand and his removal at sorcery speed.
@TheREALTheRealAdam
@TheREALTheRealAdam 3 года назад
@@stephenhousman6975 It was Hero of Dominaria, which doesn't have a passive, and Narset, who's like Leovold. T3feri wasn't in play.
@stephenhousman6975
@stephenhousman6975 3 года назад
@@TheREALTheRealAdam His removal was sorcery speed. Most of the time in that game he had bloodchief's thirst not murderous rider.
@petrsevcik5044
@petrsevcik5044 3 года назад
@@stephenhousman6975 At the time he said that, he had a Murderous Rider +Bloodchief's Thirst in hand. Swift End EOT into Thirst on Seth's turn had a decent chance of resolving (especialy with another thirst that he scried to bottom as a back up).
@stephenhousman6975
@stephenhousman6975 3 года назад
@@petrsevcik5044 Sure then you lose 3 cards (countered swift end + thirst) vs their draw (from tef) + 2 lost cards (tef and counter). That is a worse position
@stonerainproductions
@stonerainproductions 3 года назад
Seeing this video made my day! This has to be one of the most rediculous decks and it was nice to see it again. Thanks Seth!!!
@skylerhornagold4849
@skylerhornagold4849 3 года назад
This is my favorite jank deck you play. I love clackbridge troll. Great content Seth
@MataiBowen
@MataiBowen 3 года назад
Seth I've got to say, i've never loved and laughed so much at any MTG content as much as I did with this deck! I loved it to peices! Truly a masterpeice
@CSDragon
@CSDragon 3 года назад
23:39 the editor edited out the oponent actually casting fatal push? y tho
@mrlescure
@mrlescure 3 года назад
Editor like editing out stuff. A recent video seth cast a spell, opponent responded (was cut), and Seth played another spell that without the context of the opponent responding made no sense.
@DEV-Plays
@DEV-Plays 3 года назад
they didn't cut it I don't think... I think arena shortcut the push straight to the gy
@CSDragon
@CSDragon 3 года назад
@@DEV-Plays No, it would still have an animation of appearing on the stack and lands tapping. You can also tell there's a cut because of the background animations
@CSDragon
@CSDragon 3 года назад
@@cwzqzj ye, but seeing it was necessary to understand the shame scoop
@jekanyika
@jekanyika 3 года назад
@@CSDragon Exactly, at first I didn't know what he was talking about until I saw the card in the graveyard.
@halcyonrain2209
@halcyonrain2209 3 года назад
Match 4 was so triumphantly cathartic. Thank you, Seth!
@nilsbossiusklintenberg3623
@nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 3 года назад
This was truly and awesome watch! :D
@tortle1055
@tortle1055 3 года назад
This was one of my favorite against the odds! So glad to see it back and better than ever
@ChaosForce08
@ChaosForce08 3 года назад
Four Glasspool Mimics seems ambitious given how high the curve goes and how few cheap creatures you have to copy.
@aarlavaan
@aarlavaan 3 года назад
Copying a troll seems pretty sweet.
@Mikemann06
@Mikemann06 3 года назад
Gotta "Oops" the double "Oops." Nicely done.
@thechestrockfield
@thechestrockfield Год назад
Oopsing that total D-bag SequenZ may have been my favorite thing from any of your videos I've ever watched and I've watched countless hours of your game play. Kicking control players Ds off is literally the greatest feeling ever, especially when they are total piles like him. The greatest thing I've ever done was while facing a land destruction deck, this guy starting 'good gaming' me on turn one and never stopped. He kept me at 1-2 lands for at least 10 turns. I was so pissed at the non-stop emotes that I started to rope him. Figured I'd be was going to be that sore of a winner, I was going to make him spend as much time on a single win as I possibly could. Somewhere around turn 20, maybe 30-45 minutes into the game (he was roping me too thinking I'd stop if he demonstrated he wasn't in a hurry), I finally got to 4 lands and cast Circuitous Route and got up to 6 which allowed me to Route again the next turn. He had finally found his clock, so it was still possible he could close it out, but after the second Route, I had the mana to stabilize the board, and knowing what absolute gas I had in hand after looting for 20+ turns, I knew I was about to slaughter him and started spamming the 'good game' emote. He quickly had to scoop to avoid the embarrassment. It's a shame he probably didn't learn anything about not being a dick and probably went right back to GGing people the very next game. Uugh, it still was probably the most satisfying things I've ever done in a game of MtG. Sweet sweet.
@t4kato147
@t4kato147 3 года назад
Wow match 4 mightve been the worst control player I've ever seen. Goes shields down to make 1/1 when they could've waited a turn and had mana up. Casts Shark Typhoon into two Curses. Spends best counterspell on a removal spell on 2/2, causing them to lose 4 cards in hand...
@madlulz
@madlulz 3 года назад
Arena doesn't lead to a lot of good players... especially in Plat.
@jakobostheimer4066
@jakobostheimer4066 3 года назад
Yes. The rakdos pyro player didn’t play well either
@Geroaergaroe
@Geroaergaroe 3 года назад
​@@jakobostheimer4066 It wasn't as obviously bad. The UW control basically lost to himself.
@jakobostheimer4066
@jakobostheimer4066 3 года назад
@@Geroaergaroe yah, I agree it wasn’t as bad, but I’m just stating that the pyro player played poorly too.
@doctor-goggles
@doctor-goggles 3 года назад
This was the worst control player I've ever seen, *and* they dropped the cocky "oops" twice. What an absolute lad.
@streiifi
@streiifi 3 года назад
36:38 ty seth for saying oops and crushing this teferi player
@MaxMckayful
@MaxMckayful 3 года назад
Watchin this be Panharmonicon week/month for Seth makes me so happy.
@nicholashartelt6757
@nicholashartelt6757 3 года назад
Thank you so much for the content Seth I especially like this decks jank style
@TheCrackler
@TheCrackler 3 года назад
Panharmonicon will always make for enjoyable content. Such a well designed card :)
@janisweninger5656
@janisweninger5656 3 года назад
That's gonna be build and formed to perfection. Thanks
@nicho4381
@nicho4381 3 года назад
Beautiful
@christianbraun8067
@christianbraun8067 3 года назад
Yesssssssss! I wanted Seth to say oops so bad. Good job Seth I'm so proud
@tylerbalding8777
@tylerbalding8777 3 года назад
This deck is a gem!
@jphilly8113
@jphilly8113 3 года назад
This is the content I come for. Went immediately to arena and realized this is alot if rares boooo.
@Zerschnitzler77
@Zerschnitzler77 3 года назад
sweet sweet deck. spicy!
@StahliCell
@StahliCell 3 года назад
Oh boy I can feel the spice of this deck, a true showing of the love for the panharmonicon! Definitely stealing this deck for bo1 Seth, I'm really sorry but the hunger for panharmonicon just never stops!!!
@DiogoVKersting
@DiogoVKersting 3 года назад
Man, historic looks like is getting pretty fun. So many cool old cards...
@DarkX64
@DarkX64 3 года назад
Words cannot express how happy I am you went ghis direction Seth, I absolutely love Dagger Burn to bits. I have tried to make a Dagger Burn deck for EDH but to no avail. Don't suppose you could drop Tomer a line about making deck centered around that theme?
@curtissearle6462
@curtissearle6462 3 года назад
I've actually built a really fun version of dagger burn using yarok and the hunted creatures cycle and cards like poison belly ogre and netherborn phalanx its hilarious
@danlewis7707
@danlewis7707 3 года назад
1.Genesis Chamber 2. 5 colors ( your choice) 3. Grismold the Dread Sower 4. Stack up the etbs, play blood artist etc. You want to squeeze value. Seth played a pretty sweet Golgari version, but you get some great stuff in red, blue and white. So go nuts!
@OGTaddy
@OGTaddy 3 года назад
Seth probably better known as saffron olive, jank or dank needs to be meme's or dreams. Love your videos!
@arthurkeech
@arthurkeech 3 года назад
What a beautiful deck
@arthurkeech
@arthurkeech 3 года назад
Match 6 is the best kind of magic
@andrewrosston7863
@andrewrosston7863 3 года назад
I never knew I needed giddy BM Seth
@coreysierchio4650
@coreysierchio4650 3 года назад
The Deck link takes me to a Bant Yorion deck. I still enjoy your content.
@dcmag2020
@dcmag2020 3 года назад
It wasn’t on the poll but Mechanized Production is what I reeeaaally want to see
@androcider
@androcider 3 года назад
Too bad we didnt get cogwork assembler
@HivefleetMagoladon
@HivefleetMagoladon 3 года назад
Mechanised production + Scute Swarm when?
@owN-77
@owN-77 3 года назад
love it
@redwoolsocks
@redwoolsocks 3 года назад
Oops... Hahahaha nice Seth!!
@Volvary
@Volvary 3 года назад
Seth, I'll say this everytime you play a Dagger Burn deck, if you love that type of deck, please try Toshiro's Forbidden Orchard in Modern.
@andreazampollo6726
@andreazampollo6726 3 года назад
There’s no such deck that makes Seth cry as a child on December 25. Dagger buuuuuuurn!
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 3 года назад
Gives me good memories of Poisonbelly Ogre decks back in the lame days
@Infernoman64
@Infernoman64 3 года назад
Nothing is sweeter than beating an "oops" opponent!
@ReptonPlays
@ReptonPlays 3 года назад
It's back
@ironwolf5837
@ironwolf5837 3 года назад
Love your videos! And I can't wait till we come across each other, lol.
@HeartOfStone.
@HeartOfStone. 3 года назад
Damn that oops felt so good I thought I did it
@ju5tj0shiny1nz
@ju5tj0shiny1nz 3 года назад
Some Karns might have helped you at least get Panharmonicon out more often, if that’s what you were aiming for. Also would have let you grab a Dagger when you needed it.
@chuckmyown
@chuckmyown 3 года назад
I've been using a couple of tutors for this... I've also been playing a bo1 version where masterminds has been clutch more than a couple times
@Vuurgeest
@Vuurgeest 3 года назад
Seth: 'Dowsing Dagger, the oldschool way to give an opponent tokens' Varchild's War-Riders: 'Am I nothing to you?'
@wanderingrook8239
@wanderingrook8239 3 года назад
23:39 What is with that edit there? It cut out the opponent casting push so until Seth said 'can't push without revolt' I had no idea what had just happened. Editing to make a snappier video is all good but that cut was not good viewing.
@parkourhovey
@parkourhovey 3 года назад
This was my first standard deck I went 5/0 with. I will never forget the look on the faces of the token decks.
@Grimlocksmith
@Grimlocksmith 3 года назад
To address consistency of our three card combo, could you squeeze Grim Tutor into the deck?
@ryankelly7832
@ryankelly7832 3 года назад
OOPS - love it.
@RyuBateson218
@RyuBateson218 3 года назад
Massacre Wurm is such a cool card.
@DopeyDopes
@DopeyDopes 3 года назад
this deck is delicious
@beyondmemphis
@beyondmemphis 3 года назад
Consider relic robber as well....
@garmatey3816
@garmatey3816 3 года назад
Woah. Troll into Wurm is gud.
@joshwhitmire5753
@joshwhitmire5753 3 года назад
Mechanized production is definitely the best against the odds card.
@bryantan4228
@bryantan4228 3 года назад
43:18 Seth had an opportunity to equip Dowsing Dagger for the first time :(
@Sey318
@Sey318 3 года назад
Seth making his best to not call that rude player names.
@WilsonColter
@WilsonColter 3 года назад
Every time Seth plays a Trespasser's curse i have a minor panic attack because he always points the targeting arrow toward himself first, before pointing it up to his opponent.
@TheEchoAlchemist
@TheEchoAlchemist 3 года назад
Glad it wasn't just me
@jbvarghese1993
@jbvarghese1993 3 года назад
Lol Dagger burn. Gl Seth.
@amandaspear6148
@amandaspear6148 3 года назад
This is why I watch
@violet_broregarde
@violet_broregarde 3 года назад
If you're having a hard time getting to Massacre Wurm, maybe add some of those creatures that create Treasures?
@CSDragon
@CSDragon 3 года назад
Karmic justice on that oops :D
@shizo66
@shizo66 3 года назад
this deck wins way more than it realistically should
@Rolecyan
@Rolecyan 3 года назад
Its Seth better known as saffronolive, and today im playing legacy storm panharmonicon
@Samantho87
@Samantho87 3 года назад
I'd add Glint Nest Crane, Arcanist Owl and Ratchet Bomb, while tweaking the mana base to play the Owl. It would be probably better as an esper deck with stuff like glass casket and Teferi anyway, playing more of a long game without necesserily going all in in doing 15 damage a turn. Seems like a fun deck anyway. PLEASE MAKE A MARIONETTE MASTER DECK WITH PHANARMONICON
@MrDaantjuh9
@MrDaantjuh9 3 года назад
This deck seems like it could run necromentia to remove key pieces and trigger the curse/ferocidon
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
It might be worth considering for the sideboard at least. Being able to Massacre Wurm away the Zombies is spicy!
@ChaosForce08
@ChaosForce08 3 года назад
Poor Saheeli saying "each opponent." Otherwise, she would probably read "Target Opponent or Planeswalker" after the rules change like she played in Standard and would do more against UW Control. Also, Narset is a necessary evil against the terrors that are Uro and Hydroid Krasis, though without them I would more likely agree with Seth's assessment of her.
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 3 года назад
Saheeli was printed like that intentionally, cards already included Planeswalkers when they were supposed to at that time And Narset is a MUCH more annoying card that never stopped those cards and just annoyed random fair decks
@jackpabich763
@jackpabich763 3 года назад
@@cacs2201 Not true. Narset keeps fair magic a thing. It stops the overwhelming card advantage at bay. Krasis still gains life and is big, but not getting the cards is huge. When playing against Gates, Guild Summit not being able to draw 5+ cards is extremely helpful. Narset is more of a necessary evil.
@xXxXboxROXxX
@xXxXboxROXxX 3 года назад
@@jackpabich763 Alternatively wizards could just make less unfair cards
@ianmaier2202
@ianmaier2202 3 года назад
That oops was completely justified. You had to get em back.
@chuckmyown
@chuckmyown 3 года назад
Seth, do you think a mono black version could be viable? I've been testing both ub and mobo black bit have limited wildcards so yeah...
@christosx.755
@christosx.755 3 года назад
If you have limited wildcards I'd really try crafting a t1 or t2 deck for ranked grinding so you can at least start getting some good monthly rewards and a bunch of gold, farm historic/standard events, get those packs yknow? The wildcards should start rolling in after that
@chuckmyown
@chuckmyown 3 года назад
@@christosx.755 thanks! I do already have a few t1 and t2 decks but like Seth am a huge fan of Panharmonicon and played dagger burn in standard back then.. just trying to relive those good old days! 😁 P.S. the mono black version has gotten me to platinum 2 even with a sub optional build... just lucky I guess 🤞😅 Thanks again!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
The hard part is only having four copies of Trespasser's Curse. Maybe some tutors to find them would make it work. Apart from that Mono-Black seems like it should work fine.
@knightofsapphire1601
@knightofsapphire1601 3 года назад
I felt that essence scat...
@adamgraham5335
@adamgraham5335 3 года назад
I never comment on videos but that oops was just toooooo good not to. Way to go Mr. SaffronOlive
@josephrice4799
@josephrice4799 3 года назад
This deck was great but maybe the blue isn't needed?. Just a thought love your content as always.
@Iguessimhere154
@Iguessimhere154 3 года назад
Man this is a jank deck I love it
@OTG1988
@OTG1988 3 года назад
damn that win against UW Control was satisfying. Oops.
@nielsbom5558
@nielsbom5558 3 года назад
Could this deck use a bit more lands maybe?
@MeezyPeezy
@MeezyPeezy 3 года назад
You were about to scoop then that shark typhoon came out
@yoye123
@yoye123 3 года назад
In match 4 You should play dagger first to see how he spend a counter on that
@McWeenyKen
@McWeenyKen 3 года назад
My hot take is that this list is a lot better than it was in Standard!
@StevoM08
@StevoM08 3 года назад
Seeing UW control basically beat themselves is honestly pretty godsdamned satisfying. Lol
@jerryschneider8425
@jerryschneider8425 3 года назад
Lol "oops!"
@jekanyika
@jekanyika 3 года назад
47:58 There were 6 matches in the video.
@User__Not__Found
@User__Not__Found 3 года назад
I want to make this deck really damn badly, but I don't have the literal 42 rare and 3 mythic wildcards I need... It's beyond absurd how hard it is gonna be to make this deck
@jekanyika
@jekanyika 3 года назад
32:21 I thought that was coming from my pc.
@roberthall6472
@roberthall6472 3 года назад
The oops was 1000000% allowed for the d bag move.
@madlulz
@madlulz 3 года назад
Bomat Courier doesn't steal a card btw Seth. It stockpiles.
3 года назад
That was some of the roughest piloting I've ever seen from a control player. Opponent is likely new.
@stevenyukabacera160
@stevenyukabacera160 3 года назад
UW control is *not* friendly to new players, yeah. With aggro you can just copy a random list and figure it out as you play, but not control.
@Geroaergaroe
@Geroaergaroe 3 года назад
@@stevenyukabacera160 Control being hard to play is such a dumb myth. Especially UW. If you can rub two braincells together, you can play control.
@madlulz
@madlulz 3 года назад
I really hate when you concede before you're dead. You would have had 1 life and in Match 2 Game 3 with no guarantee they had a burn spell. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. Play it out, don't scoop.
@chuckmyown
@chuckmyown 3 года назад
While I tend to agree...opponent had 3 cards in hand and a courier with 3/4 cards under it... this was one of Seth's less cringy concedes in my opinion
@madlulz
@madlulz 3 года назад
@@chuckmyown I mean the odds were definitely against him (hue hue hue) and it wasn't an SCG Open or a PTQ, but there was still the chance opponent had land land land and creature creature land planeswalker under the courier.
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 3 года назад
Essentially, don’t sweat it. He is much better than he used to be
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 3 года назад
@@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet he just did one of his worse early scoops lat video I think...
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
@theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 3 года назад
@@cacs2201 even so. He’s better than he was.
@garmatey3816
@garmatey3816 3 года назад
Not gunna lie. “Temur broken shit” looks pretty fun
@irou95
@irou95 3 года назад
Match3 looked like Seth Manfields sultai energy from Pro tour ixalan......
@Fubnin
@Fubnin 3 года назад
Nicol bolas felt bad every time you played it, why not replace it with kaladesh chandra?
@gc4862
@gc4862 3 года назад
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