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Damaged Oil Filter Housing On Toyota and Lexus while removing the it was probably due to over tightening. We’re going to take a look at why this is happening on 2009 and newer Toyota and Lexus vehicles and how to avoid over tightening while performing a service.
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Oil Filter Housing Is 18 Foot Lbs
O-ring Installation is 9 Foot Lbs
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@mrblueskynm3968
@mrblueskynm3968 9 дней назад
Unfortunately, we all probably saw this video because we searched for this information after a catastrophic over tightening by the dealership which caused us to break the plastic cover just trying to get the POS off!! Thank you so much for this video!
@rogeratienza1951
@rogeratienza1951 4 года назад
Toyota dealer technicians have bad habits and tighten that drain valve plug along with the housing causing that drain plug to be frozen on the housing. Never will take my truck back to the dealer. Do your own oil changes.
@anotherbrickonthewall
@anotherbrickonthewall 3 года назад
Always
@arthurtran1434
@arthurtran1434 3 года назад
True
@666dynomax
@666dynomax 3 года назад
Yes after 2 oil changes on my tundra, that was enough for me. so much more convenient and better oil used when i do it myself. the little drain they stuck in there i just left in to be honest, i just drop the whole thing and still don't make a mess, but there was no need for it to be overtightened like that. I thought the cartridge was going to be a mess, but i've come to like them more. I think the filters should be cheaper than cannister filters, but they're often the same or more... strange to me .
@jlj547
@jlj547 3 года назад
Made that mistake, when they did a recall on my Sienna they offered to change the oil also, welp now I can't take the filter housing off. And of course I am going back to them to have them take the filter housing off.
@davidcampbell1899
@davidcampbell1899 3 года назад
The faster the tech can get one car done and get onto the next one, the more money he makes. The more stuff he finds wrong or questionable, means a hopeful upsell to the customer from the service adviser! In many way the system is basically designed to screw as much money out of a customer as possible!
@w6qd
@w6qd 3 года назад
This is far the best video demonstrating the issue with overtightening the Toyota oil filter housing. This video needs to be mandatory training for every Toyota tech (or any tech for that matter) performing engine oil changes. What I found extremely useful and quite surprising is how little force is required for 18-ft lbs (25 K-m) of torque. I won't go into details for my oil change on by 3rd Gen Prius (2012), but it was 108F in the garage and I could barely apply force on the breaker bar while working on back with the very low clearance Prius. Let's just say that my assumed 30 minute oil change ruined my Saturday morning. Bravo and well done.
@KevinSun242
@KevinSun242 2 года назад
It took me three feet of pole to get the housing off on my Camry when I just did my first oil change (Toyotacare expired). Now when I just got home from work, I noticed I left a trail of oil behind me the entire way. Thankfully the dipstick was still above the minimum mark, but barely.
@rb-cs8qo
@rb-cs8qo 2 года назад
Thank you! I thought I was the only one having that bad experience. Did my first oil change two days ago and was impressed at how much I had to work at removing the oil filter housing - it was incredibly tight. To my surprise, the "o" ring was broken (torn) in place when I finally was able to remove the plastic housing. I thought it was my fault until I noticed the amount of dirt that had collected around the area where the "o" ring had split. All previous work had been done at...any guesses?...the Toyota dealership. Sheesh...can't trust anybody these days. I replaced the "o" rings and filter housing using the manufacture's recommended torque settings. No leaks so far. But I can't help having the "look over my shoulder" feeling about any "micro cracks" that Charlie's Foreign Car Service video mentioned. Will keep any eye open. In any case, thanks again for sharing your experience.
@waynebinky
@waynebinky 3 месяца назад
Funny, watched another video where the guy didn't use a torque wrench to install the housing and was showing how to hammer the removal tool while applying force. A "Toyota mechanic" chimed in and said he's never used a torque wrench on an oil housing and has never had any recall leaks. Why would a "professional" admit to not using a torque wrench?
@njackson18
@njackson18 3 месяца назад
@@waynebinkybecause they don't want to waste anytime to get to the next job. It's about $$$. They are paid by jobs not by hours. They could care less. Unfortunately thats all dealerships. A lot of independent shops are the same way. Quality of work is not priority.
@waynebinky
@waynebinky 3 месяца назад
@@njackson18 Are the dealership mechanics paid not by the hour? I can see the independent shops cutting corners to save time and make more money.
@TojiZenin3956
@TojiZenin3956 4 года назад
Most thorough and acurate video I've seen so far.
@jonphanspromotions
@jonphanspromotions 3 года назад
who ever serviced my Sienna over torqued the filter. Awesome video. Very informative.
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
Thanks 👍
@jeffwithglasses6976
@jeffwithglasses6976 3 года назад
same thing happened to my 2020 tacoma....
@richardjudd403
@richardjudd403 3 года назад
Firestone Mokena, Illinois. Had to use a 1/2” drive impact gun to remove oil drain plug. Same thing with the filter housing. DIY is the only answer, but the common owner of today’s super sophisticated push button self driving, self parking motor vehicles would freak out if they had to turn a key to start. And analog gauges OMG! the cruelty. This was the very best easy to hear video from a concerned tech to show the correct what one should do. Thanks.
@peterrudy9207
@peterrudy9207 3 года назад
On my 2011 Toyota Camry I replaced the plastic one with a cast aluminum one and only hand tightened it when doing an oil change , never had an issue .
@trucksucc8490
@trucksucc8490 2 года назад
I do the same with my F150, just take one or both hands and twist that sucker as hard as you can. Never had issues taking them off or loosening.
@dchristo10
@dchristo10 2 года назад
@WhiteBlurr ST Yes. I always hand tighten oil filters and I've never had an issue.
@rogerbec5766
@rogerbec5766 5 месяцев назад
You are 100% right. Only when I hand tightened it I didn't get anymore oil leaks from the alum oil filter housing. Did my first oil change on my wife's 2009 Rav4 last week.
@peterrudy9207
@peterrudy9207 5 месяцев назад
@@rogerbec5766 Be sure to completely lube the o rings with clean oil , I used a spray lube . As someone had said the inside / outside of the o ring wasn't lubed . And when filter was tightened , the o ring got pinched and caused a leak .
@viperxbr
@viperxbr 2 года назад
Great video! I have an 08' Lexus ES 350 and a 10' Lexus RX 350. Both have the aluminunm oil filter housing. Neither one of them have ever seen a torque wrench for tightening. Always hand tight and that's it. Never had a problem. And yes because of the many heat cycles it goes through, it basically tightens itself over time and I do need the wrench and socket to remove it. Otherwise hand tight is plenty!
@4589593106
@4589593106 8 месяцев назад
AAA shop in Greenville, SC did this to my Sienna.--Also installed with the O-ring diagonal across the threads. As it was a plastic housing, I ended up taking it out with a chisel and hacksaw. --Replaced with the metal housing and torqued to spec. Changing my own oil now.
@johnmaguire471
@johnmaguire471 3 года назад
I would just put the aluminum housing not plastic. Car cost 20-30 thousand, might as well get your money worth
@RonGlasgow-s7l
@RonGlasgow-s7l 5 дней назад
Make sure that the metal housing comes from Toyota, not aftermarket, or else it will void your warranty possibly if oil related damage...use oem black composite housing, commonly referred to as plastic
@PrevailPal
@PrevailPal 10 месяцев назад
Took 2014 Toyota Tundra to Dealership to change oil, filter housing over tighten by Toyota Dealership technician. Never again taking to Dealership, missed screews and bolts. Thank you!
@tylermanley5262
@tylermanley5262 3 года назад
Just ran into this problem tonight. Went out and bought the metal one. Threading was perfect.
@ianplaysbass
@ianplaysbass 3 года назад
We can't get ours off 😔
@RonGlasgow-s7l
@RonGlasgow-s7l 5 дней назад
Oem metal only if available...not aftermarket
@peterkizer6163
@peterkizer6163 3 года назад
My 2008 Tundra uses a similar design, also of plastic. Years ago, I learned the hard way to always use a torque wrench (and I do mean always). I never thought of cracking a plastic housing, but am halfway thru an oil change and will probably set my wrench on 17 ftlbs!
@raylegend808
@raylegend808 5 месяцев назад
I changed my oil for the first time yesterday on my camry and when I was tightening the filter I kept hearing some clicks wasn’t sure when it bottoms out. How can I tell when it bottoms out . Thanks
@Gardenguitarist
@Gardenguitarist 5 месяцев назад
At this point in the video, He explains how you know when you bottom out. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R-H_rS7mq5c.html If you don't oil the O-ring, it can make a clicking sound.
@condor5635
@condor5635 3 года назад
Funny how some models have plastic housing and others are aluminum. Thankfully my 2016 Highlander came with an aluminum one. Another reason to never let anyone change your oil - do it yourself! Thanks for posting.
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
Trust the Torque Specs. Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks!
@LibertyGunsBeerTrump
@LibertyGunsBeerTrump 4 месяца назад
I do oil changes for a living. Its the metal ones that always get stuck
@condor5635
@condor5635 4 месяца назад
@@LibertyGunsBeerTrump - mine never gets stuck because no one’s ever touched it but myself 😀
@garageassembled4701
@garageassembled4701 8 месяцев назад
Doing a oil change on my new to me es300h and have a over tightened housing. I stopped before I broke it because it was just way to tight. I’ve had three Toyotas with filters like this and new something was wrong. I ordered a new housing and the proper wrench so I’m prepared when it breaks. Thanks for you video
@rohankrishna95
@rohankrishna95 2 года назад
This guy is 100% correct. I used an impact gun to remove the filter housing, it leaked oil. Most Lexus technicians know what they are doing. It is the lazy 0.01% who don't want to take the extra minute to use a torque wrench.
@scottyfpv5651
@scottyfpv5651 4 года назад
Yeah I definitely over tightened it..I ordered a new housing already because it started to leak after doing the oil change.. Oh well, now I know. Thanks!
@noniespam
@noniespam 8 месяцев назад
So the torq is 9 ft lbs for the drain and 18 ft lbs for the canister. I find that 3/8 torque wrenches start at 20, do you have something special there? Please pass on the brand. Thank you.
@peterrudy9207
@peterrudy9207 3 года назад
On my 2011 Toyota Camry , I replaced the plastic oil filter housing with a cast aluminum one . And only tightened it by hand until it wouldn't turn , anymore .
@JamesSmith-zs8fl
@JamesSmith-zs8fl 2 года назад
great info! we are all Tighter is better, torque monsters. So, I will beware. maybe mark my Housing and Drain so I don't forget.
@davidemoore1620
@davidemoore1620 3 года назад
My daughter has a 2013 Toyota Scion, and whoever did the last oil change used an impact wrench and cracked the plastic. WalMart Techs saw it and wouldn't touch it. They told us what happened. I found this video, and, for 30.00 plus the cost of a filter, I think I can fix it and save her car. THANK YOU for this video. If I knew where you were/are, I would come down and have a cup of coffee. Thank you for the nice explanation for a non-mechanic. I really think I can do this, and I have very little confidence in my mechanical abilities.
@DrivingTowardOurFuture
@DrivingTowardOurFuture 2 года назад
Thank you for this video, which explains the problem very well. I left town in November to take care of family business and ended up being gone five months. I returned last night to find my RAV4 sitting in a lake of oil. I don't remember who changed my oil before I left town, but they must have cracked the filter housing. The good thing that has come out of this is that I found a fabulous mechanic who diagnosed the issue right away and is replacing the housing with a metal one. He says he sees a lot of cracked housings on RAV4s and thinks Toyota should issue a TSB and replace them all. BTW, the reason I needed to find a new mechanic is that this is the first problem I've had with this car in four years of ownership.
@tamasmaksza6450
@tamasmaksza6450 Год назад
The one and only time I took my '18 4RNR to the TOYOTA dealer for an oil change (weather was too miserable to do at home like usual).... the grossly over-tightened EVERYTHING. Never again.
@Backlashed
@Backlashed 3 года назад
Stealership over torqued mine, they threw in some oil changes when we bought the car. It started to crack when I was trying to get it off. I went in and demanded they do my oil change since they over tightened. They acted like they didn't know what I was talking about but they did it. Then they replaced the damaged housing saying it looked fine. Never buying from them again.
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
It's a bummer when they don't fess up to it. They should have. It's a very easy thing to overtighten if your not careful.
@grantbrendon
@grantbrendon Месяц назад
I work at a lube center in the pit (below the car) have had many of these things break even if at torque spec it’s a crap design best thing to do is replace the stock plastic one to a metal one they are way stronger so should it weld it’s self you can get it back off. Without having to chisel the remains out and risk more damage.
@67daltonknox
@67daltonknox 3 месяца назад
Tell me about it. I had to use a breaker bar to get the filter off after our RX350 had work done in a shop. Meanwhile would somebody tell Toyota that cartridge filters went out 40 years ago... for a reason.
@wjm3018
@wjm3018 Год назад
When it bottoms out tight with the wrench cap, just get it snug tight and your good. The heat will get the oil filter tighter. Its like using the old cannister filter where tou just hand tight snug tight it and your good.
@rb-cs8qo
@rb-cs8qo 2 года назад
Thank you for the outstanding video! I appreciate it you candid, easy to understand delivery. I had to work very hard at removing the filter housing...slow, but steady pressure (lots of it!) helped me get the housing off. As difficult to remove as it was, I can't imagine the previous mechanic using a torque wrench to secure the housing back in place. Guess I'll find out during my next oil change. Based on your comments about the possibility of "micro cracks" in the housing, I may just go ahead and replace it next time as well. Thanks again for the GREAT video. rb
@genoaoak
@genoaoak 4 месяца назад
Why I do my own oil changes. Don't need some quicky lube monkey tightening my drain plug or oil filter with a impact gun.
@agostinodibella9939
@agostinodibella9939 Год назад
I always stop tightening once the housing makes contact. The O ring seals the housing. I never had one leak.
@rbez1984
@rbez1984 Год назад
That's what I do. No leak and it does not loosen by itself, and that is all due to the way the O-ring seals and holds the filter tight as well. That extra little turn, the torque wrench, and the metal housings are not needed.
@jonathanl2748
@jonathanl2748 4 года назад
Excellent video. I’ve viewed other similar videos, but none as simple and straight forward as this one. Every DIY’r needs to see this. Well done.
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
Thanks!
@quincysinette9592
@quincysinette9592 5 месяцев назад
Just had this happen to me. On a DIY oil change, noticed the teeth on the cap was broken. Tried to remove and it was so tighten that it cracked on barely touching the opposite teeth end and oil went everywhere. Had to replace with a metal one. Took me just about all day. I’m a bit happy that I did the work myself because if they’d use an impact wrench again it would have been cracked and leaking at some point.
@billc7211
@billc7211 11 месяцев назад
When I bought my Tundra, the oil filter had been changed only twice by a dealer since it was brand new. The metal disk wouldn’t come off without unscrewing the filter body, so I removed the whole thing. I had to use a vice and breaker bar to separate the metal cap from the plastic filter body. Needless to say, I replaced the housing. Since I do my own oil changes, I don’t expect issues after this. Probably won’t let a dealer near it.
@PapaWheelie1
@PapaWheelie1 4 года назад
The “tech” at my Toyota dealer thinks 18 ft/lbs = 30 seconds with a 3/4” air hammer at full whack. Then he does a final check with a 3’ breaker bar and a strong grunt.
@migek
@migek 4 года назад
Prolly just being an ass on purpose
@MrCchh7
@MrCchh7 3 года назад
Must be a jiffy lube tech
@lovemykids
@lovemykids 3 года назад
Very good video and explained professionally. Thank you.
@wildwillie6132
@wildwillie6132 3 года назад
Nicely done. Bravo.
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
Thank you!
@rabidsnail99
@rabidsnail99 4 года назад
Every single person that canges the oil should watch this i just bought a corolla and most of the teeth are broken on the filter just one left and i cant get it off i have the proper tool trying to figure out how in the world i can get this off ! Why the heck did the person put that old filter back on
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
Thanks!
@mandovapehater6988
@mandovapehater6988 3 года назад
Would've been good to know earlier. Now I'm gonna miss a day of work to find a new housing.
@fsfsci9156
@fsfsci9156 4 месяца назад
For the 2011 Corolla, there is an inexpensive workaround. I bought a quality brand 1/4 in torque wrench. It generally "clicks when it's supposed to but I was so paranoid after cracking my first filter housing I arrived at a simple workaround that gives me the desired torque, without overtightening. I also do not require a torque wrench. First ... when removing the housing, as gently as possible, unscrew the housing. Do not yank, grab, jerk or wrestle the housing off. Gently, gently unscrew the cap until finger loose. Remove normally after that. When tightening, gently tighten the cap towards the housing (base) surface. Just before you've tightened it fully, ensure you can insert a 0.15mm feeler gauge between the cap and the base. If you have a snug (not tight) fit. You're good to go. But I repeat, gently, gently tighten the housing down to that gap. More and you risk cracking the housing a few months later when you change your filter. Generally that is when the caps crack. This has worked without issue for two full oil changes without leaking and the housing was easy to twist off without an initial jerk or tug to loosen. It just immediately began to twist out as soon as I put the faintest pressure on it. That's it. Guaranteed "decent" accuracy of torque without overtightening and without a torque wrench. Best of days to all.
@tsukki_amv2848
@tsukki_amv2848 2 года назад
Thanks for a great video. I changed my 2012 Camry oil for the time (one owner) and had always had the dealer do it except for the last oil change at an other shop when they were doing other work to it. I bought the right oil wrench tool and actually bend my extention piece on my rachet removing the oil filter! I heard it creak when it started to get loose. Once I changed the oil and put everything back together I now have a tiny leak at the top of the oil filter housing. I just changed my 2007 oil for the first time as well last week and noticed it had a metal housing. Why did Toyota go cheap with plastic? Also, why do shops way over tighten them?
@AaronGrijalva
@AaronGrijalva 3 месяца назад
When you mention “bottom out” the housing, do you mean turning until it absolutely stops, even if it has passed the 18ft/lbs on a torque wrench? It just seems like it doesn’t take much turning to reach 18ft/lb.
@paulsing3155
@paulsing3155 4 года назад
Great Video. Who ever did the oil change on my brother car previously must have cranked it to 200 ft. lbs. Had to use a breaker bar which broke the tool and then everntually broke the housing.
@raadkins16
@raadkins16 3 года назад
What did you do once the housing was broken?
@bstarkey54
@bstarkey54 2 года назад
Having the same problem with our recently purchased 2017 Camry from the dealer. They literally said tough luck to the fact that one of their "techs" tightened the filter so tight that its bending my equipment trying to get it off. Had this problem with my last dealer oil change on my Avalon. I think some of the "techs" think if we can't get them off we'll have to use the Dealership for our work. Just one more incident as to why I won't have a dealership do my work.
@siker3231
@siker3231 2 года назад
Same here I used a breaker bar and broke the filter housing and when I added the oil and turn my car on oil spilled out everywhere.
@carlovanrijk4039
@carlovanrijk4039 Год назад
@@siker3231I just bought a new plastic canister for my ‘15 Venza. I just bought it back in Feb ‘23, and when I did my first oil change on it in March, I noticed that there were slow drips coming from the plastic canister, leading me to believe that there are micro-cracks in the plastic. When I do my next oil change at 5K miles (Sept/Oct ‘23). I will replace it with the new plastic canister. As I will be doing the oil changes on this Venza, I will also torque it to “factory spec”, not the impact method. The Car Care Nut (Toyota/Lexus RU-vid channel) says the plastic is high quality and durable, as long as it’s not over-torqued.
@bigsteve7857
@bigsteve7857 7 месяцев назад
Excellent video and helpful info Thank you
@SAJWS
@SAJWS Год назад
The mechanic over tightened the housing during an oil change on a 2018 Lexus. On the next oil change, the housing cracked. I now have an aluminum OEM replacement. Be careful.
@riasat001
@riasat001 3 года назад
toyota should have use spin on filters rather than this crap, guess what they are using the old style spin on filters. sucks for me i got 4 toyotas with this crap
@daoudaqtash9243
@daoudaqtash9243 3 года назад
Imagine taking your Toyota with these plastic oil filter housing to Jiffy Lube or Walmart for an oil change.
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
If you do, make sure they don't overtighten the filter housing!
@anurakboribun2560
@anurakboribun2560 3 года назад
@@fixingcars how do you "make sure" ?
@jamescc2010
@jamescc2010 4 года назад
I have 2016 Toyota Corolla. I have just replaced a housing with a new aftermarket (Dorman I believe from and put a new O-ring from a new filter in. However I still see red O-ring exposed after tightening the housing by hand pretty tight. Is it bad that I still see red/orange O-ring exposed? Or it is not tight enough or I did something (put in an O-RING wrong)?
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
You shouldn't see any o-ring after it's been properly torqued. Purchase a torque wrench. They're not too much money and are needed often if performing your own work.
@antienho636
@antienho636 5 месяцев назад
love it😁
@willie3528
@willie3528 3 года назад
We need all mechanics to be like you and not to rip us off.
@jinpark5324
@jinpark5324 3 года назад
A lot of dealerships just over tighten oil filter housing purposely.
@Tigerwarhawk
@Tigerwarhawk Год назад
I'm glad my 2016 Avalon came with a metal housing.
@Foodie_888
@Foodie_888 3 года назад
You make it look so easy. Changing oil on my 2015 Camry XSE V6 this weekend.
@krusty6246
@krusty6246 3 года назад
You would think Toyota, especially Lexus ,wouldn’t use that plastic piece of crap for the filter but they still do on a 2019 nx300. All they had to do was add an extra $15 to the price of the car so people wouldn’t have to bitch about the oil change.
@mattsutube
@mattsutube Год назад
Thanks for the tutorial. Our 2014, Gen 3 Prius filter housing is embossed with "25NM" on it. Anyway for what THAT it's worth... We are the original owners.
@johnjackson2256
@johnjackson2256 Год назад
I recently changed the oil in my 2014 Camry and had to use a 2 ft long cheater to remove the filter housing. I replaced it with the aluminum one from my auto parts store sincee I no longer trusted the plasstic one. The previous oil change was done by a local "professional " who had also broken off 2 of the ears on the housing. The plastic one had lasted through 234,000 miles of my oil changes before the professional "fixed" it. 7:36 7:36
@1Jomarcel
@1Jomarcel Год назад
Big mistake you make.. should buy from toyota so bypass valve is correct
@Medevicerep
@Medevicerep 6 месяцев назад
Outstanding video! I just had to buy a 17mm socket and 1/2 impact adapter for my impact driver to remove a housing on a 2012 Toyota Sienna van I bought used. It turns out this one had an aluminum housing so you are right that these can be overtightened as well. That's why I insist on doing all of my own oil changes. Great advice here, I will probably purchase a torque wrench for future changes.
@JC1CSU
@JC1CSU Год назад
great video! What is the part number on the replacement oil filter cartridge housing? Video shows a metal replacement part- Part Number/where/how to order please and thank you kindly!
@cheezehdglen9468
@cheezehdglen9468 3 года назад
Why not just use an aluminum one?
@lionsgarage
@lionsgarage Год назад
They say they made this instead of spin on filter for the environment, fine but that should not come at cost of inferior product. Never had issues with my honda and its spin on filter.
@ironhorsegladiator5034
@ironhorsegladiator5034 Год назад
Great video, and why did you not decide to install the aluminum filter housing and went ahead with the plastic one with all the issues being posted on the internet on these plastic housing?
@driftx2
@driftx2 2 года назад
I stripped the threads on my oil filter on my 2021 tundra using a torque wrench at 216 ft lb. I recommend if you are not professional to not mess with your car. It cost me thousands of dollars to fix.
@amazinazian55555
@amazinazian55555 4 года назад
What make and model is that torque wrench?
@ramdanelimam7620
@ramdanelimam7620 11 месяцев назад
Thanks
@josephfriedling9190
@josephfriedling9190 2 года назад
This just happened to me - Jiffy Lube overtightened, I paid for their mistake at my new oil change place. Jiffy Lube's $100 oil change was getting a bit extreme, and they usually has some kind of issue.....
@skipdog77
@skipdog77 4 месяца назад
If only Toyota and Lexus dealers did a seminar on this for all of the oil change folks… Every single time over torqued…
@class8883
@class8883 3 года назад
How critical is the presence of that perforated metal tube in the housing? I bought a Lexus back in May and noticed that it didn’t have the perforated tube in the filter housing. I’ve since done another oil change and have learned that this tube should be in all Toyota oil filter housings. I’m going to replace the entire filter housing but my concern is how urgent and imperative is it that I get a new one in there ?
@fixingcars
@fixingcars 3 года назад
I would do it soon. Is the oil light on while you drive or idle? If it is, I would do it immediately.
@johnnyboy859
@johnnyboy859 Год назад
Good to know... the last tech who changed my oil might as well welded the damn thing on
@davidcampbell1899
@davidcampbell1899 3 года назад
This is why on my Toyota I change the oil myself. I don't like going to the dealership due to price. I don't like going to instant oil change places due to the risk of the young JOCK in the pit cranking the oil cap down to tight and not taking the time or knowledge to use a torque wrench. (We change your oil in 9 minutes or less....and risk your $15,000.00 engine)
@4af
@4af Год назад
Awesome video!
@carlovanrijk4039
@carlovanrijk4039 4 года назад
Two questions: 1) Why doesn’t Toyota make the metal cartridge the OEM factory part instead of the plastic? 2) In this video the ambient noise is pretty light, but if you’re in a noisy environment, how are you supposed to hear the spec click of the torque wrench?
@donwhitee3955
@donwhitee3955 4 года назад
The dealer here wants $263 cnd for a new housing.
@njsongwriter
@njsongwriter 4 года назад
You can feel the click in the wrench.
@paulsing3155
@paulsing3155 4 года назад
@@donwhitee3955 bought and aluminum one at O'reiley for $29
@john_dee1431
@john_dee1431 3 года назад
Very educational. I'd service there, have some coffee.
@Czechbound
@Czechbound 2 года назад
Sadly, I think 90% of working mechanics use their own "I just know" magic-arm torque specs. I doubt if many are within even 20% of what the real numbers should be. BUT for the home mechanic, always use the correct torque specs for things. It becomes a simple habit.
@seandavis2520
@seandavis2520 7 месяцев назад
I just wish Toyota would just end it... go back to the old school oil filters!!
@edwarddunican2852
@edwarddunican2852 3 года назад
Glad he isn't my mechanic, can't believe what I am seeing. He used dirty oil full of grit to lubricate the NEW O ring. The rubber O ring and plastic threads on the canister will hate you!
@frankmiller95
@frankmiller95 3 года назад
Drain oil is fine for lubing oil filter housing threads and O rings. lf it wasn't it wouldn't be done by almost every pro mechanic. Neither of those parts are in contact with fresh engine oil, ever. Oil filter threads are not rod or cam bearings.
@anurakboribun2560
@anurakboribun2560 3 года назад
@@frankmiller95 why install it on dirt, when few drops of fresh oil are available?
@paulferrara9079
@paulferrara9079 Год назад
Thank you for not using the torque wrench to loosen that oil filter housing in your example. I have seen so many RU-vid people using tools improperly, I am sure they mean well. So nice to see things correctly demonstrated. : )
@gte1340
@gte1340 3 года назад
I don't think there's a Toyota dealership in the United States that even knows what a torque wrench is. Time is money ...hire some teenager to do oil changes and give him an impact wrench set to 350 foot pounds.... call it a day. Stay away from dealers!
@dgronzega8073
@dgronzega8073 Год назад
Just did a relative's '17 Tundra. Very hard to remove. After install, checked for leaks and there was a tiny crack in the webbing of the notch/ear. Replaced with metal housing from Autozone $32.
@dave1096
@dave1096 2 года назад
Only time..... I've had risky and lengthy removal of my T4R housing is after a dealer oil change. Never when I do it. And I always do it now. Also Motive makes a housing tool that looks similar to his but it engages with the hex only on the housing and not those moronic flutes.
@Chaotic-Neutral-Opinions
@Chaotic-Neutral-Opinions 9 месяцев назад
🎉Thank you for uploading this! Lol it's 1am in ohio, and I was wondering why I destroyed my housing. It was installed wayyyyy too tight. But now I have to go get a new one in the morning. BTW, thanks for the metal housing tip, I'll look into it.
@Lifesrad8
@Lifesrad8 Год назад
That's the happened to mine they over tightened it then took it back they snapped tits off it and didn't even change the filter at that point and left it🤦 they are a nightmare to get off welI mine was because they also rounded the flat edge's as well so I had to drill a hole threw it and slide a pry bar into it and break it loose. You always get these ppl that think oh it's going to leak it's going to leak and they just reef on it and mess everything up
@MacGyver2154
@MacGyver2154 Год назад
Great video
@kambiztaleghani
@kambiztaleghani Год назад
Thank you very helpful. Interesting to know why they made it that way !!
@Howardtrn
@Howardtrn 3 года назад
I had that problem a lot who pays for the new housing? I usually stop and talk to the customer about the issue. And not do the job if I feel like there is a chance I will crack it.
@timothytaylor2398
@timothytaylor2398 Год назад
Just had a shop say a broken finger, the side with 1 finger, caused all my oil to drain out in ~180 miles. Is that actually possible with the other fingers on the other side still intact? We moved to the metal housing now but worried about engine damage from running near dry conditions.
@94Zero
@94Zero Год назад
The plastic housing is a terrible application. They are going back to the traditional metal spin on canister filters.
@Quentyn73
@Quentyn73 10 месяцев назад
What is the part # on the aluminum housing? I know the plastic one is 15620-36020, but I am not sure about aluminum one?
@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838
@-smp-scientificmethodpersp838 4 года назад
Okay, But how do you take it off if it brakes, and there's no where for the factory socket tool to grab onto?
@mikemullins4817
@mikemullins4817 2 года назад
You can break it apart inside the housing, I blocked off the Oil galley to engine area with Blue Shop Towels, then preceded to tear into housing, ( I already had new one ready.) if had to take Dremel to part that was inside threads, just cutting a nice groove into inside plastic housing, once groove cut established, pried it little and it boke on Groove line, allowing me to pull it all out, Cleaned housing and replaced. Left Sharpie note on oil pan, No Torque wrench !
@KevAlberta
@KevAlberta 3 года назад
I tightened my spin-on filter as tight as possible by hand. Could someone over-tighten a spin-on oil filter by hand?
@deere3321
@deere3321 3 года назад
That's how I've tightened filters for over 50 years. I've never had one leak.
@KevAlberta
@KevAlberta 3 года назад
@@deere3321 awesome 😁yeah my car has been 100% fine. I’ve always done it this way as well. I just got paranoid when I realized I should have counted the rotation(s). but instead just went until I couldn’t spin anymore. Next time I’ll do one full turn and compare that to how many rotation(s) when going as hard as possible
@jimhill6586
@jimhill6586 Месяц назад
Every stealership and car shop has the lowest end slack jawed yokel perform oil changes. I had our ordinary car with a spin on oil filter get an oil change at my wifes dealer-employer years ago. I was working a lot of OT and had no time. Next oil change, I used a screwdriver through the side of the filter to gain enough leverage to remove it. The drain plug was ran down with an airtool, cross threaded. The car had a hardened nut in the pan, with a softer metal plug. I was able to replace the plug. Today's cars are aluminum pans with hard metal fine thread plugs. These plastic cartridge housings are the result of the EPA wanting to limit spin on can filter waste. In the end destroy a engine and not save the environment. It's poor engineering with foolish propaganda. Overcomplicated to screw up the diy'ers.
@ligmaballz3584
@ligmaballz3584 Год назад
My filter was tight af on my tundra when I first changed it. I’ve changed it probably 4 times since then. All good now. The housing seal is not on the flat part that meets the engine. It’s up inside the hole where the o ring is so it doesn’t need to be super tight. Just tight enough that it won’t come off
@doug10038
@doug10038 2 года назад
Same thing with the drain plugs people weigh over torque them
@joeyw4442
@joeyw4442 2 месяца назад
I can not understand the benefit of these canister housings. The filter media cost just as much as the metal canister filters, these are a PIA to deal with as they are messy, have two rubber gaskets that have to be replaced, and must have special oil filter removal tool to get them off. Dealership mechanics definetly over tighten everything. Surprised to see a torque wrench that nice in a dealership. And if you take it to your local Jiffy Express Lube, they'll crossfred the strews everytime. Lordy!
@truth6565
@truth6565 3 года назад
THANK YOU 🙏🏽
@davidjr6134
@davidjr6134 Месяц назад
2023 tacoma with 15k miles bought it at 9k. called stealership to confirm that they were the ones that had done two oil changes before i bought. the housing unit was absolutely impossible to take out with a ratchet even applied a tube to it to get better force to twist and nothing. broke a 3/8 METAL extension from how hard we were trying to get it off. first time doing an oil change on this so i 1000% made sure i wasn't tightening it. tried for hours and just gave up because even a impact gun couldn't take it out.... called the stealership the next day and they assured me they did not over tightened it. i will be taking it to them so they can deal with it but after that i will never get it serviced with them again
@MrHC1983
@MrHC1983 Год назад
I had two of these plastic things go. I even did it to spec properly after the first one went thinking wow maybe I over tightened it..... After the second went I was like WTF. The second went like mabe 5000 to 6000km's after... I eventually got in a metal version, no issues since but now I have had a rear main seal go. This is on a 2GR-FKS Highlander/Kluger. So I am wondering if these engines have a high oil pressure issue. Very odd.
@krassimirpetrov7131
@krassimirpetrov7131 Год назад
I think someone did this to my Porsche housing and now it’s leaking…gonna have to get a new one
@ewcamaewcama
@ewcamaewcama Месяц назад
2:17, bad idea. Just use a breaker bar
@michaelangelo975
@michaelangelo975 Год назад
Good video; my question is why do idiot mechanics performing oil changes overtighten these housings. If they are professional, they should be following the manufacturer's spec. I've changed the oil in my wife's Camry and her daughter's Camry- both housings were overtightned to the point they couldn't be removed. I had to spend more money to get oil changes completed on both cars by a mechanic that I know; frustrating...
@Racerman15
@Racerman15 3 года назад
2013 Prius: The service shop over tightened the cap and it shattered next time. They dug out the plastic remnants from the aluminum base with a screwdriver and chipped and scratched the inside of the filter housing. Oil leaks now around the large O ring. Do you have a video for replacing the aluminum base?
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