Dani Speegle || Natty or Not 

You clicked on this because you had a GUT REACTION to the thumbnail and/or title. In the first minute I let you know it would be silly for me to not make these videos, as clearly MANY like to watch them. After my Tia video I had many high level females reach out to me about the accusations the non-informaed make about them. This one goes out to all of you. -Andrew

You lost me when you said “I know for a fact they weren’t using PED’s.” Unless you are literally watching them every minute of everyday and testing them you can’t know for sure. You just can’t. People can lie and tests can be beaten.

The guy you breaking down, I'm about halfway thru the video and he hasn't mentioned genetics.. Some ppl had a good 'roll of the dice', some didn't.. I'm 41, come from a family of athletes.. I've stayed in shape all my life so far with relative ease compared to some ppl who have their very DNA working against them!.. I don't even try hard, i work out for a few months every 3-5 yrs, get results without too much effort.. Toned bands on my shoulders, back, six pack out etc.. I've known ppl who juice who were jealous of my results.. They could hardly believe it.. Genetics counts for a hell of a lot.. After that willpower.. Willpower to stick to a good routine.. And don't underestimate the importance of good eating.. It's right up there in terms of top 3 vital things ppl get wrong.. Good genetics or not, i wouldn't get a quarter of the results i get without putting the effort in.. And good eating..

Initial reaction... natural athlete.

I notice your refer to it as PEDs when athletes use it, but you refer to it as TRT when you use it. Something to keep note of maybe.

i liked the video because of the letterkenny reference. you had that one tee'd up for a bit, ya? hahaha

Andrew any quick fix to get into shape for Boilermakers? (steel fitters/welders/riggers that work in oil/gas, dams, nuclear power plants, shipyards, pulp mills etc.) I know there is no quick fix but maybe a fast track? 2-3 months? Would cardio several times a day help? There is a lot of heavy lifting, extreme heat conditions, confined spaces, a lot of stairs and walking with gear and equipment, etc. It is exhausting and stressful work. If you can come up with a program or suggest something that helps job specific I would appreciate it.

I’ve literally done CrossFit for 8+ years, through two full term, healthy pregnancies, and really have yet to experience any sort of injury. While I am definitely average, that does not mean that I don’t push myself and work hard on high level skills. Those type comments always make me so angry. It is all about scaling appropriately, taking rest days and knowing your limitations.

Only stayed for the hat variations

She is not natty come on people

And that's the bottom line, cuz Drew Hiller says so! in Stone Cold voice.

Murph two times in 1 day…..it’s a hell no for me dawg 😂

cool hat, inside out looks best

Natty

Oh you're wearing a scrub top.. clearly you must be a Dr..

I did not change my mind, they're all enhanced.

I’ve been in CrossFit since the beginning. Eat, slept, and breathed fitness. The amount of athletes that are on it, and aren’t caught would blow your mind. You seem to have some aggression on the subject and I’m not sure why but open those eyes and that mind of yours. Trained with plenty of games athletes. Some aren’t though, I will say that. Some are. Dani…lol bro you kidding me? Idk how you defend it.

If you call daily super tech prohormone stacks with daily creatine/protein shakes natty - then I guess she is natty lol😂 - you guys are Just into immature hero worship. People use to defend Arnold this way in the 70s and 80s , until he admitted I’ll give you this, with her gymnastics background, she is more natty then her competitors, but she is not natty by any stretch of the means

It’s not normal for women to have that much muscle

Ain't no way she is natty

A simple google search for young Dani Speegle answers natty or not. In the space of a few years, she doubles in size. Also if you look at Olympic athletes they train hard and don't look like the hulk!

Deffo she is on gear

Natty or not on Noah Olsen that would be interesting! I vote for not natty !

Not sure what your beef is with this guy tbh. My vote is she is on roids and its not fair for other ppl thinking they can get the same results and also watch people with poor form/workout advice but will end up injuring or getting burnt out mentally trying to follow the same template

The cap variations had me 😂😂😂 Oh … and 100# Murph. Wow!

Those outside the sport have no credential to talk PEDs in Crossfit. Those inside Crossfit at an Elite level unwilling to discuss PEDs in Crossfit. Go figure…

"5 hour work outs" 😂😂😂💀💀💀 Tell me you don't know anything about lifting Average male Test crashes after 1-1 and a half hours. 5 hours natty and you wild deplete any chance of making gains, and lose mass

Lol, Andrew was really harsh here. At first, I didn't get why, but as I watched the whole video, I got it. It's funny to see how "outsiders" can react differently, Greg Doucette is from bodybuilding, but, even so, he's smart enough to not talk shit about people from other sports. This Mike was on a formidable level of superficiality to talk about Dani and crossfit in general.

Well of course she's using gear. It's only obvious. She's not getting that big naturally.

Nobody in crossfit are natty 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Comparing to yourself , but you are a man bro. Being that muscular and defined not natty for a girl. Crossfit crusader.

It's hilarious that anyone thinks any of these ladies, especially Speegle, are natural. I don't understand the motivation to maintain this fiction.

For some reason that Mike guy reminds me of the Ronnie Coleman quote. Everybody wanna be a body builder but nobody wanna lift heavy ass weights.

Women that look like that are most certainly not 'beautiful'. It looks bad enough on guys

At 8:49 you said you did Murph with a 100lb vest. Without Trt I don't see how this is possible. Lol, I'm gonna need to see the video please Andrew.

I agree with both this one and your Tia one. If you watch the games movies from the first 2 where Tia talks, she comes off as a church mouse. Now she's a friggin lion. Dani has, personality wise, not changed much. Just a disclaimer, I've been on TRT for around 5-6 years now. I have a kittle idea of how it effects your mental approach on things

I’m concerned you are easily triggered now that you’re on TRT

Bro you talking shit about this guy and you are on the juice 😂

Nice vid, you are over here playing chess, while these other peeps are playing checkers.

Andrew, did you get botox? don't care if you did. You are looking lovely as always.

Not natty.

You know better than a doctor bro. I guess they pissed you off

That dude was a k mart version of Derek from More Plates More Dates. No scientific backing on his opinions. The only thing he referenced when talking about side effects of PEDs was jawline and recovery time. No looking at her actual performances over time or anything or body fluctuation. Pretty ballsy accusations to make with no real backing from Tyler (idk if that’s his name but he looks like a Tyler to me)

She’s probably on something (imo which doesn’t mean much) but that doesn’t mean she wasn’t already fit. Even something like an EPO deployed with someone like her…it could do wonders. (Especially for a cross fitter) But you still have to do the work. Also

1. Even on PEDs an athlete still has to work hard. 2. More than 10 years ago,one of my daughetr's bridesmaids was a crossfitter. She competed at a low level as a personal challenge, and for fun. I told her that the athletes I'd seen at local competitions, who wanted to get to the games, were using PEDs. She agreed. She told me that all the top competitors in her box, that included athletes who went to regionals were using PEDs. I asked her how she knew. Her answer: most of them just tell athletes like her at the box. 3. Nothing new under the sun.

Awesome job as usual. That video must have taken you 12 hours or more to produce. Appreciate the research and detail. Keep it up!

Ok not going to lie but when people make videos like this when a) you didn't do research on the person you are making videos about or b) don't know the sport that you are talking about or c) you aren't even sure about how to determine steroid use is so freaking annoying and maddening!!! I just wanna know what makes people think that Dani would be on any form of cycle? I mean Sam Briggs has a better phsyique than Dani (definition of muscles and such) but no one mentions her. I feel that this is just someone who typed in crossfit girls in instagram and seen her and decided to make this video.

He's gonna find out if you've natty or not, Santa Claus is coming to town

What is the impact of “steroids “ wrt women’s fertility?

I was a gymnast my entire life before getting into CrossFit 2 years ago. The results, physique changes, and strength improvements I've seen in two years (as a natural athlete who trains 1 hour per day 5 days per week doing daily WODS) has been crazy. Yes, my sports history helps, but the methodology also works. I think if I hadn't experienced what CrossFit can do myself, I'd find it really hard to believe that people can achieve certain physiques and perform the way they do athletically without PEDs. Not saying everyone is "natty" but CrossFit does produce results - especially in combination with good genes and athletic backgrounds.

The Anabolic Doc has video where he has said he treated crossfitters on peds.

First of all..."I have never been to the GAMES" This should be an indicator of BS

Dave Castro himself has said that he's not entirely sure who is using, but they might be cycling off whatever it is to test clean at the Games.

Dude looks like a recreational gym goer, maybe his nutrition just isn't dialed in, the audacity he has 🤣

Being on gear does not negate the fact they work super hard to attain what they have. Yes it is hard work, but it's unfair to say natty because the results are not realistic without the AAS. I wish there would be more transparency around the subject. Why is it so taboo when they are pretty much all enhanced??!

Great video! I have a cousin who is similar. She's yoke and has been doing gymnastics her whole life. I brought her to her first crossfit workout and she proceeded to beat all the girls and most of the guys doing Diane (21-15-9 deads/hspus). So yeah everything you said here made sense to me. Well thought out and I loved your reference points. And yes, dude shoulda done his homework. P.s..... Look at Tia now vs right after the games................................................

lol your snarl at the beginning of the video is everything

You don’t get big doing CrossFit, I’ve been lifting for 30 years and workout like any animal and never looked like these people. Oh, p.s. I don’t take any drugs. Also the recovery of these crossfit nuts is suspect. Bottom line, anavor at the minimum. Don’t be scared homie Nothing like the real thing baby

People will argue to the ends of the Earth that these folks are not using. I think the people who do that are probably affiliated with the people in question and or the organization itself. There are certainly a percentage of folks who are just completely naive and ignorant of the signs and we'll tell you you are just jealous because that person "puts in the work" LOL

Normally like your vidoes but this one isn’t it. You come across as extra salty and like you think you’re the only one qualified enough to talk about CF Natty or nots cause you do CrossFit. This one missed the mark.

I mildly disagree with your conclusion. Mildly because Im not at least 90% certain- I'm never 100% certain unless they tell me. I disgaree because I subscribe to her Instagram account and during the past two years I've noticed fluctuations in her physique that can't just be explained by off season and on season condition. Again, I believe many crossfitters are using PEDs that help recovery and most of those won't build muscle like androgenic PEDs, but would really help in winning.

The Ozark insert is killing me haha

They all use it!! CrossFit needs to legalize it at this point. They all have jacked muscles and 2% Body Fat.

If you review her pictures from past until now it’s suspect that she could be on PEDs.

This bloke is all over place, you can use his own videos to prove he is a hypocrite, get a life

Hahah the journey of the cap . Can’t even 😂

You can't say she isn't either. She certainly looks like she is, so I guess it's a "definite maybe".

sitting on concrete complaint ; nobody gave a fuck haircare glaze for sleeve perspective pockets

Hiller said my fiancé still getting checks from Nickelodeon for her character of the crimson chin Jesus 😭😂😂🤣

Women don’t get muscle like that naturally. Get real. People are delusional.

home depot whatever fitness man backwards upside down and sideways hat guy in the video....definitely natty. Great video Hiller. entertainment value next level!

a good balanced video. Thank you!

It would be interesting to see her progression from high school to college gymnastics… Is there any chance that PED use in collegiate gymnastics is a thing? I know the pressure to perform is very big for those folks and strength training is now emphasized significantly. Could she have started PED use in college?

My reasons for thinking she's natural are kind of a back-handed compliment. Her body composition and her performances have remained mostly the same over the years. She's always been strong and then she's always been mediocre at everything else and hasn't ever shown exceptional progress in anything. She just gets attention because of her looks and because she's always going to be a contender in the showcase event of a competition.

But the real question is Andrew, are Mike OHearn and The Liver King natural? 🤣

Also if someone is on PED’s it doesn’t make them a bad person.

Dude stop editing memes after every sentence its very annoying.

I've dealt with bodybuilders firsthand, including all the 'natural' ones and those claiming most don't take drugs etc are full of crap. I personally knew people who swore black and blue publically that they didn't take them and i knew for a fact they did. This woman is CLEARLY using. ..but so are most others. It is near on impossible to get the huge bodies we see through purely natural methods.

Dldr: crossfitter on roids defends crossfitters on roids

I think she’s natural.

White man speak much, but say little.

I would say all of her acne would be a big clue.

Something wrong with you eyes bro?

What about Annie thorsdottier roid gut

“Sponsored by Home Depot” 😂😂😂💀

the progression of the hat killed me😂

It's been a minute, was helping my old man out of the hospital. I'm gonna binge watch your vids. Keep it up brother !

Fatty or not *

what is with your eyebrows

that girl-next-door-bit got me haha

I've watch 3 of your videos in 2 days and it was the Letterkenny drop that earn the sub! Great content and editing style.

100% natural. She is just the master of the PPPL (usually PPL). 1) pump 2) pose 3) photoshop 4) lighting

MY o-pi-ni-on: yes, natty. I think she’s a genetic power house. As I write this, I have to admit that I have no evidence of this, other than that her body comp hasnt changed much simce she got onto the scene and my gut feeling.

I love how all the folks who claim PED use is rampant in CF say that the "athletes can't compete at that level" "can't recover enough" "can't develop that physique" without steroids when what they mean is THEY can't do it. Because they lack the will, desire, and work ethic do so. 66 YOA, 8yr. CrossFitter, L-1 Trainer, 14% bodyfat (could dial it in better if I had the will, LOL) 48% muscle mass. We met at the Games, I was the guy with the pic of the "real deal" Batsuit.

Natty, only thing she's not natty on, is crmbl!!!

I always laugh when someone on U-Tubes calls someone a rock. Makes me wonder if they were in the Marines or had a family member. I know, smart as a box of rocks or calling someone a rock is not just a Marine thing. Just reminds me of the Corps.

Saying that CF athletes MIGHT be on drugs isn't new, and it's also not wrong. But the way they're getting there is wrong. They're only focused on Dani's current lifts and physique when compared to like a random girl off the street (to use their favorite expression). These are not normal girls, they are super athletes. And btw Dani is not the only girl who can snatch 220#. The other part of this is that the drugs that CF athletes would use are those that would actually aid their recovery and performance. They are not the same as the ones that would "instantly" develop large androgenic muscles (for women, that is. For men, simply a low dose of T might be the way to go, which would facilitate muscle growth, and probably wouldn't even pop on the testing). They always miss that point, and therefore always focus on the Tia Toomeys and the Annie Thorisdottirs. What about the Camille Leblanc-Bazinets or the Haley Adams' of the crossfit world? They don't LOOK like they're "on steroids", so nobody cares

Dani, is a great example of why guessing if someone is or isn't using is ridiculously hard to do. It's quite possible that she isn't, it's also equally possible that she is. The only thing that idiot body builder said that is 100% true is that CrossFit's testing protocols are to blame for all the guessing. While not sport has great testing protocols, CrossFit's are the absolute worst and may as well not even be done as they don't prevent usage at all. A gym bro with no education on PED's what so ever could easily figure out how to game the system they have in place...just saying

Newflash sad little non-Olympian, non-Games, non-model, non=academic, non-active military, non-strong and/or non-achiever men/boys:

1.5 babies is a reference to the fact that the average American household has 1.5 babies. He’s calling the women normal.