Daniel Woods Talks The Elusive 9A Bouldering Grade | Climbing Daily Ep. 717 

well its been a couple of years and boom, burden of dreams

It’s been a few more years, and snap, Return of the Sleepwalker.

Another year and psat! Alphane and probably Megatron

Are they not all downgrade now to 8c?

@@rosshenderson8171 why would they be?

And a bit like Sharma at times?

9A would be V17 I guess? The difference between in and outdoor is just style I think, and I have no idea about the hardest boulder :P

It transfers to roughly v16/17 (according to my conversion app). Hardest Boulder currently is v16. Not sure if this Boulder will get downgraded, strong possibility I would think. Technically there shouldn't be a difference in overall difficulty. But I think most people would agree outdoor tends to be tougher. Partly physically, but I would say mostly because solving beta and problems is much harder since holds aren't taped.

On the v scale i guess 9a would be v17, the hardest grade ever climbed is most likely v16 or 8c+ but grading is nebulous at best so that might not be a perfect indicator of difficulty. Indoor and outdoor grading are the same but because grades can be subjective you're going to find grading will feel easier or harder at different gyms or crags depending who did the setting/grading.

8c = v15, 8c+ = v16, 9a = v17. There are currently four v16's, Gioia in Italy (with two ascents calling it v16, one calling it v15, so consensus is v16 currently), The Process in California, Hypnotized Minds in Colorado, and Terranova in Czech Republic. There's also some very hard projects waiting to be done, The Invisible Man project in Hueco is a v15 into a v12/13, which would probably be a v16. The Sisu Project is possibly the hardest project out there, Nalle tried it for 4 days and was only able to do one move, the easiest one (and it has 16 moves). The Sisu would almost certainly be v17 (9a), if not harder. Hypnotized Bears project adds a V11 into a V16, but that would likely just make it harder v16. There was an indoor V15 at the CATS gym called the bubble wrap project, and it took a bunch of pros working it for three years for it to finally get sent by Daniel Woods. There's a cool video on it.

@@Dippn nalle hukataival, the founder of this boulder, climbed 2 v16s each one in less than one month. this project took him 3,5 years to achieve i just think that its really hard to admit that a 4 moves boulder could possibly be v17 even though it probably is