Happy New Year everyone. I hope you enjoy the video and have some good laughs while watching it. This video is so girthy, I'm just now realizing that I forgot to put my avatar in a couple parts. That's what I get for making such a long video. Oops! I hope you'll forgive me. If not, you may lambast me in this comment thread. Have a good 2023 and take it easy!
Darktide is what happens when the devs responsible for art direction, music, and gameplay are great but the ones responsible for monetization worship Blizzard's business practices
And are also owned by a faceless money-hungry Chinese entity. Wish I'd remembered that when I bought the game. I do enjoy it, but the video is on-point in every way. It's impossible to enjoy the meta game, thankfully the literal game is fun with friends. I'm kind of done after leveling 2 characters to about 25. The lack of weapon variety and lack of min-maxing via crafting is just grinding my gears way too much. I could be SO MUCH better as a whole. The funny thing is that I bought this for 2 of my friends too. This is kind of the opposite of Division 2 or Destiny 2 (which are also very much lacking, but in different ways).
Really? Cause I find the issues with gameplay are the biggest. What’s your massive gripe with the monetization? I think the common consensus is that all the maps feel largely the same, the way you attain loot is awful, the crafting hasn’t been implemented, you can’t play with you friends on a different launcher, the story sucks, the characters suck, there is a severe lack of builds, the terrible implementation of the books. What about that is monetization? Genuine question.
@@spiralphoenix9839 The core gameplay loop is fantastic and that is what is meant when talking about the gameplay. Half of what you described is symptomatic of the monetisation method and is part of the gacha game mechanics (loot, crafting), and the other half is definitely a problem in its own right although partially related to the monetisation as it has led to underdeveloped game systems. (story, lack of progress, builds, etc). Not sure how you feel the maps are samey, they do have a coherent design philosophy and definitely too few maps but id say the maps that do exist are quite good and distinct.
36:36 this cutscene is especially funny because it says "you are being summoned to the hangar" but when you get there Masozi literally opens with "what are you doing here"
Makes me think that maybe they planned to include these places for us to wander around in. Management decided to release early and then rather than the cutscene playing when we walk into the hangar the first time, it just lazily plays as some kind of story cutscene.
That trust cutscene to me always seems out of place, remember it’s after you’ve already had multiple ones with the bosses especially after the traitor one, feels like it should have been the second trust one because she’s saying your a nobody like normal when your already almost max level and know how well you do down on taris
Something happened in development. It was released unfinished (cash shop is working at launch of course) and stuff like that screams "This isn't ready". Hell, we're testing their change to toughness (toughness doesn't block all damage like the tutorial says, it only partially blocks)
Quick note: Hedge isn't a developer, they're a Community Manager. They have a history of off-key answers like that one, and it's rumored that the only reason they haven't been deposed yet is because they're a relative of a company head.
For the peril thing, they should Amp damage for the higher the peril is. It rewards high risk high skill gameplay and makes psykers the terrifying human explosives that they are in the lore
Basically Sienna. Also add more aoe capabilities for Psyker? idk i haven't played darktide, but most Sienna playstyles are geared towards crowd control capabilities.
@@prointernetuser To be fair, the one thing Psykers still do well is having easy access to CC with staffs so you still have something to contribute with. Trauma staff is overall kind of meh, but flamethrower and lighting staffs are great for that.
@@oxfy9694 The annoying thing I find with the staffs is how one dimensional they are. Each have their strengths but also a wealth of disadvantages, they but you in a box. You become good at one thing but because awful in another and you don't have decent enough Melee choices to offset your disadvantages. Most annoying thing I found was despite having fun with all of the staffs, Lighting (Surge) especially was a blast, I constantly found myself wishing I was using the Voidstrike staff. I hate how it can do the job of the other staffs perhaps a little worse but so consistently. Secondary can explode and stagger similar to the Trauma staff, It can pierce lower mobs with a pretty big hit box (Really easy to hit headshots with it) making it great at horde clearing like the Purgatus (fire) staff but you can also do it at range, Still has good single target damage on bigger enemies, The only thing doesn't do is stun enemies like the Surge staff but it will stagger them if the explosion hits.
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I have had background specific voice lines… Exactly twice in over 100 hours. They are *seriously* rare, and seem to be mission specific. Both were about the background I chose, one was a line about lamenting the lack of open air on a Hive cos he used to be a Farmer; and another was them reminiscing that they used to live in a hive and hated it. Both were literally just one line that’s very easy to miss.
I do believe there are a few lines here and there but they are so incredibly rare with no interaction between the character that they might as well not exist. My Ogryn was a Grox farmer and has over 150 missions said that he once ate a whole grox twice. My friend have a mining Ogryn and he once said the light stung his eyes. In both cases it was hard to tell if they were actually background related or just coincidence. I actually deleted my first and leveled up a new level 30 psyker because the lack of background voice lines were getting to me. The first psyker was from Cadia, picked everything I could to make her out as a battle psyker and I picked the french accented voice actress. But she never mentioned Cadia, never sounded like she'd been in the guard, she just kept going on and on about enforcers, the lex and how she was so inundated in Atoma. Couldn't take it, deleted her and made the loner instead, still cadian battle psyker but this time she's just bitter and doesn't expressly contradict her background. tl:dr I do believe you are right that there are a few background voice lines here and there, but they are few and far between with no inter-character responses.
Honestly character creation just shouldn't be a thing in this game to begin with. It's by design going to result in mostly soulless and uninteresting dialogue and characters. They should just stick with writing good characters like in Vermintide.
The skin thing is so unbelievably stupid too. Like, I'd love to talk to whatever marketing guy thought that'd be a good idea. The average player nowadays is so inundated with in game currencies that most of us just zone out when we see them. But vermintide, that was different. Seeing 2,99 next to a skin made me go "oh, that's not that bad. Yeah sure" and for once in my life actually buy skins. Spending 3 bucks on a skin i like isn't something that has a huge barrier of entry for me. Spending 5 bucks on 2065 Mario coins to buy a skin with 1667 of them is...
I'm even more not interested in skins. I see £2 next to a skin and i say "Well you might get bored of this game and then thats wasted money on top of what i already wasted" and just don't buy them.
In Vermintide 2, skins that you buy with in-game currency do also occasionally drop from reward boxes! Reward boxes that one gets after each game, a feature that is also missing in Darktide.
10 years ago a pair game with a cash shop would be laughed at. Make your money by putting out add ons that make the game better, not by using F2P bs to squeeze your paying customers for more. I refuse to buy a game that wants to juice me.
People give negative review to Darktide not because they hate it, they did it because they love it too much, love it hard and want to push the DEV to make it actually good
You realize that the negative reviews will kill this game long term though right? You say you love this game but negative review bombing is like beating your child then saying “I don’t hit you because I hate you, I hit you because I love you too much to let you be a shitbag without hitting you”
@@bradydonovan6180 Both giving negative reviews and ignoring the problems lead to worse outcomes. If the devs suffer from the bad reviews, they did their job. And no, saying a game should be better isnt equivalent to beating your child, its equivalent to berating them for failing a test...
@@danielwoods3896 beating a child has drastic negative long term effects. Review bombing has drastic negative long term effects. I get being frustrated, but driving review scores into the toilet won’t fix the problem because once reviews are shit the company is liable to just write it off as a failure and cut their losses. That’s not what we want.
@@bradydonovan6180the way I hear it V2 was abysmal at launch. Now it’s the only true successor to L4D we’ve gotten Sven compared to the actual successor
@@bradydonovan6180You realize that No Mans Sky was very low rated and they pulled it out? You're just plain wrong. It's only a death knell if the devs don't do anything to fix the game. If they don't do anything the people that still play leave and the game dies. What's it like being wrong and using a shitty analogy that doesn't work?
Ya know, when I was playing the closed beta, I felt that the Psyker was Veteran's rival in his kit. Brain Burst was like 40 to 50% more powerful and generated 25% less peril, and the ult vented all peril. I think Psykers were also allowed to use shotguns. On release, the Force Sword cost Peril to do the basic push! Not even the follow-up super push, but the regular push. I blew myself up from trying to do crowd control. Moral of the story is, Fatshark overcorrected for a class that I didn't really think needed it? If Ogryn and Zealot are supposed to be the better melee classes, Psyker should still be Veteran's rival in ranged classes.
As a massive 40k fan and someone who has put too much time into Darktide, I fully agree with everything said. I'm hoping with time DT gets better, but OH BOY is it doing things worse right now.
The good parts of Darktide are So Good. E.g. best Bolter in a video game (until Space Marine 2 comes out, at least). But the half-baked (or worse, time-disrespectful) parts are Not Cool. I’m willing to play Darktide for 2-6 months. I’ll be the canary in Darktide’s coal mine. But if they haven’t fixed the dealbreakers for my friends by then, I’m gonna move on to the games they’re playing (which, funnily enough, include Vermintide 2).
@@davidcassidy602 I plan to pick it up off and on over the next few months, but sparingly. I'll really look to commit to it again in about 8 months to a year before I really decide if I stick with it or not. By then, they SHOULD have the features in.
That statement is a joke, right? The Warhammer 40k universe boils down to: Humans hate everyone. Chaos corrupts humans. Shoot and stab chaos and aliens. There's also big humans.
From a programming standpoint, adding in new voice lines would (theoretically) not be that hard of a task to do. All you really need are some checks that see the options you chose in your backstory, the options the other players chose, and what both of your classes are. And before anyone says anything; no, checking what choices another player made in their backstory should not be that hard. This is because - from what I understand - character data is stored in the Darktide servers. This makes it MUCH easier to cross-check different characters and their backstories since they're all stored and can be retrieved from the same place. In fact, this already seems to be done in game already since there are some voice lines that reference other player character's specific classes. The BIG problem though is actually recording those voice lines. As Verac mentioned, there would need to be a metric ton of new voice lines recorded in order to cover all the possible interaction combinations. Combine that with needing to hire and schedule the voice actors to come back and record new lines and you got one huge undertaking to do. Dunno if it is something the devs are willing to do, but man would it make a world of difference.
Maybe they should talk to Bioware. The Mass Effect games have so much interacting character dialogue that I often see videos of "rare dialogue" that only happens if you put 2 specific people in the same squad after meeting a very specific condition. Much of that dialogue has probably been missed by a majority of players.
This was something that the community was worried about from the beginning. The fact that its STILL and issue, 2-3 years from their first announcement of this mechanic, is worrisome.
It's not really a huge undertaking, when they still bring back the original voice actors, they just need to go slow. Though the player base is also the problem for expecting the game to arrive a little sooner. And also the fact Fatshark already explained their reason, but people pretend it didn't exist. So to be honest, both the players and company nowdays are asking too much.
The problem with the Darktide/ Vermintide 2 comparison is that Fatshark should have learned their lesson from that release and take steps to avoid making the same mistakes. Instead they went backwards and released Darktide with even less features than Vermintide 2 did.
Problem goes way back. Krater was never finished, War of the Roses was quickly dropped, Lead and Gold was fairly barebones tho you can see mechanics that were kept forward to the 'tides.
A someone who actually studied game design in college and was (unfortunately) taught ALL the predatory methods game designers use to squeeze as much money as possible from players, I SALUTE YOU FOR BRINGING MORE KNOWLEDGE ON THE ISSUE AND CALLING OUT THE DEVELOPERS ON IT!!! Me? I was very vocal about it during my studies. I became a minor celebrity there because no one else was as vocal as I was. I had to refuse so many job offers because biggest majority of the companies in my country use these methods very shamelessly. Ever heard of Raid Shadow Legends? Yep, that's made by the company in my country... Sorry for that! I could've earned sooo much money working for them so my apology is to never do anything for these bastards!
I love this game so much. The gameplay is some of the best I've ever played. I even bought Vermintide 2 because I wanted more. It makes me sad to see this absolutely incredible game get fucked over by publishers. I want it to come back and I know it can come back. If they did it in Vermintide 2, they can do it here. Also you did convince me to get Vermintide and I love it, it also got me into your channel. I really like your content! I want to see more.
Basically sums up the dark tide experience very well, one thing to note is that Ogryn’s have a bit of a rougher time on higher difficulties too as their size and lack of useable cover makes them a prime target to shooter/ specials. Which is why you can use different melee weapons but it’ll be difficult not being surpressed or just take health damage the whole time
This made me really appreciate Deep Rock Galactic. It's also a 30$ hoard shooter with weapons and cosmetics... but it doesn't pull ANY of this monetization crap. If Darktide didn't have Warhammer brand recognition and goodwill built from the previous game, it would've crashed and burned with competition like that.
This is an extremely good review. Hits *EVERY* single point that needs to be said, both good and bad. Darktide deserves to be better, and I have hope that it will. A few comments: Some people data mined some hidden values for the classes, and there's some surprising stuff in there. Apparently sharpshooters take double damage when sprinting, and only slightly less damage when sliding. Zealots on the other hand take half damage sprinting, and 0 damage while sliding. I can attest to the zealot's slide being true, so I'd say these are looking to be true. One bit about the traitor "story" arc that I really like is that the traitor can be seen in a vast majority of the cutscenes: sometimes as the subject matter, sometimes in the background. It's clear that someone somewhere tried their best to make this good, but was held back. I main pysker, and I agree that it could be better, but pysker can do really crazy stuff. The staves allow you to chew through hordes, CC elites, or blast everything. There's a perk that lets you build peril when you block; this combined with the force sword blessing that blocks ranged attacks, you become extremely tanky. And if you take the perk that give you 10% chance to do a free brain burst on hit, it makes your machine guns a fun RNG machine.
Little end of the year update: The game is good(TM) now. Still some issues, but a lot of the main ones have been fixed. Haven't seen a player or item get stuck in a wall or falling through the floor. Frames are not dropping through the floor either. You can buy grey rarity versions of any weapon for your character now, so the random shop can not keep you from His holy fury made manifest in the form of a bolter. Everything class-related has had a lot of work put in, so skill trees are actually that now and every class has at least a couple of endgame viable builds (by which I mean highest difficulty, something not everyone needs to play as progression is sped up by but not reliant on high difficulty content). Psyker, which used to be the laughing stock of the other classes, can now be an important pillar for the team or even carry a mission by himself, just like any other class with the right build and a skilled player. So, while I originally would have said that you should only get the game, if you are into it enough to look past the flaws - now I would recommend it to pretty much anyone. It is a good shooter, a good action game and good Warhammer. It also looks like they are really going the right direction with patches now, since the class reworks (and weapon additions) have heavily expanded and polished the existing game, while the Karnak Twins might be a glimpse of the more story driven content to come.
One of my big complaints too is that when vermintide 2 came out on launch. It had something like 13 maps along with a finale capstone one that wrapped up the story. Darktide has about 5 maps or so, with hopes that rando gen objectives that run you through the same maps backwards would count and just hoped we wouldn’t notice. Like V2 permutations or something.
While yes Vermintide 2 had its own issues at launch, it also came out with 13 different missions, 4 story bosses, 4 random bosses and 15 classes, crafting, and a very late addition premium skin shop. Darktide came out with like eight maps, one story boss, three random bosses and four classes, no crafting and a premium skin shop that had the most updates since the game came out. Not saying vermintide is best game ever but omega lol at even the slightest insinuation that this isn't an alpha+ build shat out for the chirstmas sales.
The VT2 item power system was completely broken at launch and had to downgrade the killing power of everyone at some point causing an uproar, EAC implementation had horrible performance decreases, 75% of class skills weren't functional for like a year and more. It's still fresh in my memory.
Awesome work, Verac! Pretty much nailed everything I love and hate about this game. I'm really hoping that they can turn it around and make this into the banger 40k game hidden underneath all the buggy, RNG muck.
I feel the exact same way about the game, and I love the way you've presented it here. It was especially painful since the psyker in the test weekend was SO good, it felt like the "you there, yes you, the one armoured bloke right here, you are deleted". Now it feels like asking them politely over a cup of tea. I actually ended up trying out Sienna in VT2 because of it, and while I miss how cool the psyker's abilities are, Sienna feels much better.
It’s immeasurably confusing how Fatshark could fuck up so badly with systems when they have Vermintide 2 to reference when they were working on Darktide.
What's obvious to me, and is starting to come out as more and more people dive into the development history of this game, is that this game was never supposed to be a live-service game. Fatshark did not originally design this game to be a live-service game but were instead pushed into that model halfway through development, either by over ambitious game directors or their new Tencent overlords who wanted more monetization options. Its obvious that we were not originally meant to be able to create a character but rather would have had 4-5 pre created characters like in Vermintide. We can discern this because some of the voice lines spoken directly refer to things that our characters should have no way of knowing considering their backstory. Of note is the Savant Psyker, who routinely talks about being an enforcer ON ATOMA PRIME, IN TERTIUM. I dont know about you, but my psykers backstory had nothing to do with being an enforcer on Atoma. There is also the fact that the crafting system is just missing, most likely because they had to make a new one as the old one was created for the old weapon attachment system in mind. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE WEAPON ATTACHMENT SYSTEM! Its pretty obvious when you look at the bots lasgun that they have an even more default lasgun than ours, as theirs doesn't even have a sight on it. Meaning we were likely supposed to have that kind of lasgun and then just add attachments to it as we acquired them or crafted them. but that crafting system wouldn't work with our current system. So yea, its obvisus tat the game was ment to be 4-5 core premade characters, with a weapon creation system & attachment system done through the crafting menu similar to Vermintide. Which is what everyone wanted. But the monetization routes with that kind of game are too few is my guess. I also doubt we will ever get the whole truth, and at this point the game is made, we cant go back and un-release it. It would take a FF14 1.0 type of situation to reinvent the game into what its supposed to be, and that means removing everyones special character to make premade ones that have actual soul.
I am so happy that my buddy randomly showed me your Killing Floor 2 vid last month, you're a current favorite creator! I love your sense of humor and even though Femrac wasn't in this vid as much, anytime you have her on is a joy, you two have great chemistry! Looking forward to more of your vids, though this one is MASSIVE. Might need to watch it a couple more times.
I think this is the first actual mixed review ive seen,and i super appreciate it verac! Im stuck in the shadow realm of console, so ive been waiting for it to come out for a good while, which based on this, might not be the worst thing.
As for the weapons shop, thankfully they added a new feature to directly buy the weapon type you want. Only caveat is that it'll always be profane rarity, but better than no choice at all.
This is probably one of the most honest, thought out and best reviews I have seen of this game so far. And that's why I love your channel, keep up the amazing work man
You can smell the stench of Tencents money grubbing practices all over this game. Level Infinite, a company launched by Tencent, is listed as the publisher and I'm pretty sure they had a lot more say in the monetization practices of Darktide. It doesn't matter if they had a better system in Vermintide 2 or that they might have the same people on the dev team because the higher ups that can make these decisions have their balls in Tencents fist (and a lovely paycheck from them as well) and will do whatever they say. Look at all the Tencent published MOBAs and mobile games and you will see that fishing for whales and all that playtime padding is the norm. Like you said, the bones of the game are solid but no matter how much flesh ends up getting added to it, the soul is irreparably corrupt.
The developer list is also interesting. VT 2 had roughly 80% the same team as VT 1 while Darktide has about 10%. Tencent's influence is also undeniable.
@@Phaselessshadow Similar thing happened in Mass Effect series, 1 and 2 were done by pretty much the same people + some new crew in 2's team while 3 was done by almost entirely different devs.
I never really think of it that way, but you are right, what is the point of Psyker when it comes with such a heft demerit? While they do get ways to manage their peril and help keep it down and unlimited ammo other classes can do practically everything they do, but usually quicker and with less downtime that comes with it. If you are stuck in a rather intense situation that drags on it punishes the Psyker more and more as they usually don't have access to most of their shit cause they can't cleanse peril and have to wait for the slow ass decay. BB on higher difficulties can be used a tool to stagger, but when the stagger animation may not really offer much breathing room it loses value tremendously compared to other stagger options. I enjoy playing Psyker, nothing beats roasting a horde with the flame staff without having to care about ammo consumption, but outside of those scenarios playing the class is kinda dull.
I really do wish Psyker was better. It's such a cool class conceptually. Even the infinite ammo on staves is challenged by Veteran's ammo replenish aura for the entire team on every Elite kill.
I am still going to get the game as I am both a horse shooter enjoyer and a warhammer enjoyer. However I do greatly appreciate the honest review. It was quite useful
From what i heard from the SB forum is that the people fatshark is currently working with another company on darktide(for the budget, if i remember right it the people currently responsible for the cosmetic store) made fat shark cut a lot of the stuff that was supposed to be released with one of them is the crafting system if i remember right.
they claim that they had a crafting system but didn't consider it good enough so are rebuilding it since they cannot change an existing one as easily as adding one.
Brain Burst: - SINGLE TARGET IN A HORDE GAME - Quell - Doesn't 1 shot specials after LvL 3 Missions - More Quell - Interruptible in a horde game - Check 2 and 4 - Has a cast time in a horde game - Is- Quell - Stacks last 25 seconds when it generates 50% Peril per use - Oh you wanted to have fun? Hahaha- QUELL WORM! Meanwhile Sharpshooter has an answer for anything: - LvL 4 + has too many ranged enemies? Gun. - Specials? Gun. - Taking ranged damage? Np bro, 75% damage resistance that resets on kill. Gun. - Taking damage? Highest base toughness even though GUN. - Horde? Gun. - CC? *GUN* - Melee horde? Best melee in the game (did I mention gun?). - Bosses? Girls Gone Gun. - Gun. Honestly, the game is a fucking joke at higher difficulties and extremely unenjoyable unless you're playing Sharpshooter. I don't understand how they had a game formula that they improved over years with Vermintide 2 and just fucking decided to FORGET EVERY lesson they learned in their past game. Are you fucking kidding me? And don't even get me started with the fact that this game has only FOUR characters with no specializations whatsoever. This is a joke, this game is clearly still in alpha when it comes to actual content.
I have a blast with psyker on damnation. I use the chain sword instead of the warp sword to maintain peril, and with the purgatus staff you have the best horde clear in the game besides flamer which costs ammo, and yours doesnt. Brain burst while slow and high peril generating is amazing for carapice armored targets, if no one has a bolter you have quite a hard time with crushers. I don't understand why people whine brain burst takes 50% peril. You only explode if you use a brain burst at 100%. So go to 100% quell for .25 seconds and go again. If you fuck up and you're gonna explode you can just cleanse yourself with your ult and live. Psyker is very strong and I find them way more fun then veteran. I also very much enjoy zealot and zealot is incredibly strong if you have the right build. But I am having a terrible time playing them in high difficulty because their builds are super perk and blessing reliant, meanwhile psyker and vet just need a 330+ modifier rolled weapon and they'll kick ass. The staff blessings are shit-useless on almost all of them. Vet you just don't need them most of the time. Meanwhile on zealot if I want my eviscerator to be good horde clear and also proc the 75% toughness damage reduction feat I need crit chance perk, savage sweep tier3/4 for horde clear and shred for crit, and I can barely find any in my shop to begin with. I love zealot but their sooooo blessing dependent. Oh I wanna go bolter and antax? Need brutal momentum and shattering impact or you're gonna have a bad time!
Verac. I hope you become much more popular. You deserve it. You're a funny dude, you're witty and you clearly put in work. Godspeed brother. I see a bright future for you. Keep at it!
…… growing up in China (born in 2000, moved to the U.S. back in 2013), Tencent was THE main punching bag at the time, purely due to just how plainly greedy their exploits were. Now you mentioned that Fatshark was purchased by Tencent back in 2021 - which was something I never knew firsthand - , I REFUSE to believe that this "polished" in-game store is just a coincidence.
Well Darktide is at a decent spot right now. There are skill trees that allow for all characters to make one of 3 main builds with preferable tweaks, the shop hasn't changed BUT you can now do specific rolls and save good blessings from a low level weapo to put em on a high level one (and reroll whichever trait you prefer), we now have the aulric missions for endgame, and the store although highly predatory just rerolls the skins every now and then, BUT the mission selection will never change cause that's how the games framework works, but the most major plus is, that the character wallet is now account based. Meaning you can farm resources on a character you have loadouts and then invest on the other one.
this is by far the best review ive seen for this game. i have 3 level 30 characters in the game (no interest in playing ogryn) and i very much enjoyed playing the game and getting to level 30, now that im there im struggling to continue playing because of how hard it is to get new gear that isnt trash compared to the gear i got 5 levels earlier. Also I have a friend that can get the game on gamepass but that means we cant play together if they do, fun.
Something I am kind of surprised no review has mentioned about the in-game dialogue is that the characters don't really discuss what is actually going on. I don't think I have actually seen a single conversation about nurgle or the chaos God's, yet every round we get some water-cooler tier gossip about the Npc's on the mourningstar. "ThE TeChPrIeSt Is WeIrD hUh? RiGhT?"
The peril stuff is kinda fun to mess around with Like if you're at 96-97% peril when starting a brain burst, you can complete it without blowing up. Other staffs kind of work the same but the charging needs to stop by 97 and be fired. Effectively this means you can brain burst, cool down 3-4%, brain burst again. The biggest downsides of high peril are being unable to use the blocking perk that uses it instead of stamina, and the fact you can't hear anything anymore being of the bwuuaaah noise. Having said all that, might be nice if brain burst can do a bit more damage so it can still one shot some of the specials on higher difficulties, like the hounds at least.
True. I had a blast playing with brain burst when the game came out. Though I do wish the peril mechanic was a bit more clear about how it actually works and what you can get away with.
Not only is the cash shop predatory as fuck, all the skins you can earn through gameplay are: a)Pathetic looking in comparison to their cash shop counterparts b)Insanely convoluted to get, locked behind broken challenges that make you ACTIVELY sabotage the game you are in And on top of both of them, the cash shop skins are present in a 40 dollars game ON RELEASE, which means that all skins in the cash shop are in the game, ready to be used that you JUST BOUGHT. This is not some "teehee, our artists had some free time after the release and you can support the game this way consoomer-senpai ^-^" this is just plain ripped from the game and put behind a paywall. Fuck everything about this. V2's cash shop came out over 2 years after the release of the game. I haven't played Darktide in a month and the rage that elicited that uninstalling has been reignited by this video. Thanks Verak
A note on balance: as a Psyker main (who has also extensively played sharpshooter and preacher) I think they're one of the most powerful classes. The problem is that it's not in what you expect. Brain bust isn't great. It's good as a tool for dealing with crushers (armored ogryns) and bulwarks (riot shield ogryns) and for when your team is engaging at a distance, but their main strength comes from the Purgatus (flame) staff and the Surge (lightning) staff. They both have amazing crowd control essentially Shutting down everything in front of you. The purgatus is probably the best thing in the game at melting a horde, and with the right feats you can keep shooting it for a long time before purging. The surge is the king of lockdown. Shoot it into a problem area and watch your teammates tear through it without a care in the world. That's what the Psyker is good at.
That moment when you’re booted and the A.I takes your place, you wait through the loading screen to get back, and when you drop back in your health went from full to less then half because the A.I struggles at higher difficulty and health carries over from the A.I.
You nailed it on the criticism of the game. You even hit on some topics I hadn't even considered, like the voice lines based on character background and how much ass the Psyker sucks at Heresy and Damnation difficulties. Did anyone feel like the signal update was just stuff they left out of the main release to make it seem as if they were adding a sizeable update, shortly after a half-baked release, in order to keep enraged players pacified?
Awesome video mate. I've played Darktide for a bit now, and although I enjoy it I can admit it's got problems. And thanks to this video I'm more aware of those issues now. With regards to the choices made for the game, the cash shop and random weapons and curios in the store, I kind of have a theory. Now I don't know Fatshark as well as other, and I don't know any of the developers. But considering that they were bought by Tencent, I think a lot of these choices potentially may come down to executive meddling. I doubt Fatshark wanted the cash shop to be like this, but Tencent mandated it. Not to completely absolve Fatshark of course, since they did release the game in it's current state and all. But to me at least, it makes too much sense that a lot of these bizarre and time wasting decisions likely was the direct result of the studio now being owned by Tencent. It would probably also explain that one developers comment about it being 'immeasurably complex' to install a bit what you need feature. Not so much complwx in implementation, but complex in convincing their overlords to let it happen. But I could just be very naive about all of this. Still, here's hoping it improves with time I'll be keeping an eye on it for sure.
That seems about right to me. That ‘immeasurably complex’ line really sounds like a community manager who’s not allowed to say no outright to any player requests but who very much wants to say ‘we can’t do this because the money guys won’t let us.’
@@th3vampan3z3l0rd Now granted, according to the rest of the comments, he's supposedly doubled down on that statement and has changed it to 'impossible' or something along those lines. But I still interpret it as him having a metaphorical gun to his head with regards to the money guys as you put it. I could entirely be wrong and he could just be an asshole, and Fatshark may have gotten greedy as well. But I typically like to think a lot of game developers don't want to screw over their fans deliberately and do want to improve things for them. But with radio silence from Fatshark, outside of recently asking for feedback with regards to a survey they put out not too long ago, it's only speculation.
The best part about the negative reviews: Each one tends to have like 40 hours on the account. Even the commenters on those reviews say that sends mix messages.
I have close to 1000 hours on vermintide 2. I have over 100 hours on Darktide. I posted a not recommended review, because comparing the two games darktide is just not worth the money and time when vermintide 2 still exists and does literally everything better, while also being cheaper, more polished, and has a lot more content. Knowing fatshark can do much better, but they still released this unpolished game that needs to have a lot of mechanics reworked from the ground up, I won't change my review to recommended until they actually do just that.
They probably spent the 2 hours they had to refund the game trying to get it to work and have now racked up 38+ hrs just ATTEMPTING to have fun with the product they paid for, fruitlessly. They could be me.
I fully agree with your idea about balance. I love playing sharpshooter, it's my main. I don't wanna get nerfed. I want to see my teammates join me in Olympus as fellow gods. I fear with the way development has been going they're just gonna nerf sharpshooter and add more hounds then go on vacation for a month.
the peril mechanic is obvs the equivalent of VT2's heat gauge see in VT2 Sienna and some of Bardin's heat weapons had their "peril" mechanic, the heat gauge, because that was the cost you paid for ranged attacks with no limited ammo pool and I think peril in this is the same but since ammo is now far more plentiful since everyone is supposed to use ranged weapons far more frequently, its just not landing the same
Bloody good video Verac, I am very glad I found your channel recently/in the past few months. Fantastic video and I feel all the pain points you put here ESPECIALLY THAT GOD DAMN Cash Shop ughhhhh
That was a very nice review. I enjoyed how you went into the extreme detail about how awful the shop is and how the whole post-combat experience is hindered by the hinged horseshit hanging happiness for fans.
Seems like classic Fatshark skill issues but ported over to maximal MTX exploitation to me. Other Tencent owned studios have far less half-baked releases and less predatory monetisation.
Oh *god* the mission select system is the one Payday 2 has, and it's just worse than Payday 2's is because at least Payday 2 patched in a specific mission selector later.
6:18 as a 40k fan I never ding people for not bring stuff up, Warhammer is a big franchise, with decades of lore that makes the Star Wars expanded universe look like a puddle by comparison, on top of that different writers interpret stuff differently, so any one thing in 40k has at least 3 popular interpretations
It's probably just the boomer in me but I don't think there is such a thing as an "ethical cash shop". Especially in a game you paid for. The whole point of a cash shop is to milk customers for even more money, so right away your ethic is in question. Yes, you could argue that's all a video game is doing, but at least you're getting something out of a game. A story (maybe not in darktide's case), an adventure, an experience, and if it's with friends, you're getting quality time with others. Cosmetics? Yeah, you're just baiting weak willed and/or absent minded people. Plus - cosmetics have so much more value to them when they're unlocked through specific tasks. If I were the supreme squirrel that ruled the world, transactions within games would be illegal. Games don't "need" it to survive. All it does is line fat pockets. (monthly subs to very large scale MMOs excluded)
Psyker is on the weaker side of the operatives, but not everything they can do is outclassed by the other 3 operatives. With one perk you can cause your blocking to increase peril instead of decrease stamina, but can't kill you. This makes psyker have either a get out of jail free card or is the best character for blocking while still being mobile. (Ogryn lockdown shield is better in some instances, but you can't dodge fire grenades or trappers to name a few weaknesses.) Ideally you rotate blocking with stamina and peril regenerating one while the other is in use. Secondly, the palpatine staff allows you to stun enemies that other classes can't easily stun or can't stun such as the mutant and toxburster. This is much better on higher difficulties because a mutant can survive a fully charged focus fire amped shot from a sharpshooter with a plasma gun headshot on tier 5. For toxbursters that catch your team off guard the psyker stunning them can save runs since pretty much all other operatives can only possibly shove or kill it and it still explodes. Finally, every other class uses finite resources such as ammo, grenades, and health. As a psyker with a staff you only have to deal with health as a finite resource. Infinite ammo crowd control is pretty powerful overall, and since you aren't using ammo there's more for the other classes.
Verac definitely coming into his own. His style of review is more distinct and feels like he's giving a very heart to heart description of his opinions.
Let's not forget that Vermintide 2 even in its halfbaked release had significantly more actual content available at launch at a notably lower base price
Darktide is FREE TO PLAY via Gamepass, and feels like a *free to play game*. I'm a semi obsessive and played it non stop to level 30 in a weekand a bit or so, but, yeah. It's designed as a repetetive time sink. I played 1 mission after 30 and finally allowed myself to give it up, and frankly i wanted to stop before, as I knew at 30 it wouldnt feel like a acheived anything, and it didn't. Please don't bother playing until a year or so. I managed to wait on 2077, and will soon give that a go as I can now see its better. Hold out, like I failed to do.
