Dave Talks About Useless Degrees 

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JTundra 😂😂😂 love the sarcasm! Hope it’s sarcasm...

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I majored in majoring with a minor in minors. still unemployed for some reason

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I. Storm haha even my bio professor stated this.

it doesnt stop college board members from approving pay raises every year for the exec members, then complaining about budget cuts and education cuts when bitching about not enough money funding from the state or donors (lol). its got the same ring of corruption tied around large businesses. @Coal Dust XIII

@chief tp because theyre "non-profit" which is a complete joke

No way. Really?

Can you please elaborate on a method of acquiring income that doesn't involve enriching a business?

.....seriously? some degrees are outright scams.

+Syed Ali Yes, really, it's true,. I checked Bowling Green State University's website, and they're still offering a degree in Pop Culture. Well, McDonald's is part of American pop culture. So I guess with that degree, one can spend a fulfilling career flipping burgers in McDonald's.

I wonder how many people actually choose that major. I remember hearing of a lesbian dance theory major and a star wars major. Then these kids go into them and then cry about the world bc they can't find a job lol

Oh yeah i read about that on buzzfeed.

People wants jobs so they are being sold the idea of doing a degree which is really a qualification focused on academia.

whats advance blinking

Jobs in your area are fleeting, Blink and you miss em.

@@williamstephenjones3863 ba dummm tshhh

Did you try applying to work at the blinker fluid factory?

you should get a graduate degree, then you will find a job

+Larry Duran You seems to the exception more people that get a certain degree are underemployed

I don't think any degree is useless unless you you don't have a goal. You have to have to start with the end in mind. It's not were you start but were you want to end up. The degree Does not make you, you make the degree work for you.

+Larry Duran sounds great but I'm talking from a view of being under employed so you do make the degree but that debt was too much

Are you employed yet???

+Larry Duran So you're practicing law, not philosophy.

*has

Google it

Do computer science

Is it that hard to figure out? Gender studies, music degrees, art degrees, ballet, liberal arts, etc. Ask yourself: do major players in my field have this degree? Can I realistically get a well-paying job with this degree doing something other than teaching it? If the answer to both is no, boom.

@@TommyTombstone Art degrees vary. Somebody has to make the movies you watch and the video games you play or any kind of media entertainment. Not gonna lie though, it's a hard field to get into

That’s so true. Well stated, thanks for this comment.

This right here!

Why do you. Formulate your sentences. Like that.

Tell that to people making money on social media and the internet. While the teacher is fringe some 💩 Toyota and the one who makes money on the internet is driving a nice BMW or Mercedes Benz.

You right so i decide to back to college 🤣 and planing to become a cop

Don’t worry about that. Tupac didn’t have a degree or HS diploma and could talk knowledge every time the cameras were around.

I . Know. What . You are Label stupid Mean. Yes.

shut up! lol

I want to see the receipts. It's probably only one class.

i googled it just now and its only a hip hop studies minor. it's taught under the africana studies--so someone could major in engineering with a minor in hip-hop studies if they wanted to. from my understanding minors are pretty irrelevant, it's usually the major itself that gets you in the door--not the minor. plus, africana studies and hip-hop studies aren't too far off from each other; one could become an ethnic studies or africana studies professor and teach a course of the history and culture of hip hop.

wandering merde Rip I guess eminem wont be featured in it.

Hiphop is a multi-billion dollar music business. I'm sure you can do something with it if you're ambitious enough. There are worse degrees.

Izurin how much $ have you saved 2 years later brah

Perfect example of using our language imperfectly.

Some phrases should never have been invented 🙄

Zachary Bohlman brah ?

BRAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

Lmao yeah tell that to your body in 20 years. F those jobs. Get a degree in cybersecurity and sit on your ass for $150,000 a year.

You’re one of the lucky ones.

@@DagnirRen55 k is lucky?

@@conservativemillennial1493 Happiness in your job is worth more than a high salary.

only rich people can afford it w/o debt

move to states like NY or CA at age 18. work at mcdonalds as an independent for 12 months and then file for state schools at age 19 /20. dont worry about graduating late. just finish your degree. at the lowest cost possible. Reason why i mentioned CA and NY is because in these states your state tuition is zero if you make less than 100k and you have the added brand name of these states. for example . City University of New York sounds better than Wabash College. California State University sounds better than Monteclair University

Many people at my work are going to college debt free. Work and go to school at the same time. Some degrees require you to attend full time, so it will be hard to do with some degrees. It really depends.

@@JohnBowl14690 some companies will pay you for getting a education. But they dont pay for useless college.

@@kercchan3307 - People shouldn't go for useless degrees anyway.

Night Rider , right.

This. The reason we have useless degrees is because we have useless students. We have useless students because we decided everyone must go to college. College should be only for rich people and such members of the poor and middle classes who are sufficiently motivated to rise above their station. Those people all should receive classical educations in languages, literature, mathematics, the social and hard sciences, and the arts. Most people, whom we shall call The Great Unwashed, should become tradesmen or laborers, as befits their station in life. They do not need college - as we have seen it is wasted on them. They study either useless subjects like basket weaving, or idiotically narrow career oriented subjects like business or computer programming - areas far better suited to apprenticeships, not formal education.

@@cisium1184 the great unwashed are so depressing to observe

@@cisium1184 upset that a lot of poor people are smarter than you?

@@annastarr2043 awww what’s the matter? Sad that a plumber is probably making more then you could ever hope for, I call what you call, “the great unwashed,” smart people, more smart then you and I, and they will carry this society when others fail.

@@CountOfMonteCristo_ I spent my life doing volunteer work. Got sick of the scammers & malingerers are you one of them?

Kabuki Syneri they say that to scare off people like u. every company is going to say they want many years of experience but what's really important is if u know what to do not how many years u have been working

Whether they say it as a scare tactic or not. Years later, I still don't have a freaking job after having applied with over 200 applications. I don't even see the point in applying anymore.

Look for an internship if possible. What type of engineering field are you in?

Engineering has been hit by this the hardest because of the H1B visas to get foreign workers over for cheaper.

Get certs behind your belt, internships, build relationships with employers, move to a more employable city. Its something YOU'RE not doing, no reason you should be without a job years after graduating.

I’d grow your business more. Idk what it is but it sounds like the business makes good money, and unless college would make you better money then it’s not worth it until you are a millionaire

+Diana Martinez german is boss

ja Deutsch ist eine schöne Sprache!

But what's your major?

Ben Song 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ben Song In 50 years, it might become an actual major with the way things are going. 😂😂😂😂

Trackstar35 employers are fucktards! I have a degree and they tell me oh we want people with experience. They’ll hire someone with manual experience and an apprenticeship.

And law and education.

Business majors rack up the most debt out all majors combined

@@xwrtk Most people I know who went into business didn’t know what they wanted to do with it and they didn’t want to major in something useless. I still remember my first two semesters in college when professors would ask business majors “what do you plan on doing with your degree?”. And they themselves had no idea.

@@xwrtk Nearly a quarter of all undergraduate degrees in the US are awarded to Business Majors

@@xwrtk no worries, business students will make it all back plus some when they get into politics (lifestyle free curtesy of the taxpayers).. also Law students. Gotta have that degree to learn how to play the system when they become politicians..Those two seem to go hand in hand, so gotta pay double.. but no worries..see above..lol

Lack of financial literacy is another issue I seem to notice from College graduates.

Gender studies, art history be like: 💀

I say some are more in needed but yeah not degree is useless because you can still work in Research era right?

"If you fail to plan, you plan to fail." - that's what it comes down to.

Lol im studying philosophy and we do ask alot of questions like that.

Hustle is good, but some of the best workers in my company are very efficient. They work smarter, not faster. Some jobs require hustle, while others do not.

BAM!

@@JohnBowl14690 He doesn't mean fast, he means having will power and ambition to get a great job and a great opportunity

Dunno about this. If you have the hustle to do the work to achieve a stem degree, I don't see life slowing you much at all.

If you don't have a degree you probably weren't 'hustling' that hard.

Ti Klim wdym

Depends on the business degree that you get. For example business management is pretty useless while something like Accounting is a guarantee.

@Ti Klim business is good but it majorly depends on how you apply it in the practical world. Secondly it also depends on what business course you major in for example courses such as business administration and management are not job gurantees but it's more based on how you apply it and market yourself in the practical world whereas courses such as Economics, finance and accounting are more specialised degrees, hence they are more likely to be job gurantees. Lastly out of the top 10 richest people in the world, half of them have a business degree.

Maths, statistics and physics are also good careers

I’ve always said the same thing but I also include law :)

The entire industry of academia is based around knowledge, not skills. You people dogmatically think the world is based around skills because that’s what capitalism has taught you to value. You can get a degree in whatever you want and make a nice living studying and teaching it at university.

One skill often overlooked is the ability to think. Another is the ability to learn. This the focus of most liberal arts programs.

@@noahmcdaniel4920 underrated comment

what were you thinking when you choose that?? you can teach English or literature

+ladama It's a joke-though not too far from reality-you took it to be serious.

Oh wow!

someone has to know about Norwegian literature!

Sounds like a fantastic degree. Just because you studied something you love doesn't mean you have to get a job doing it. There are many ways to earn money.

Im not sure if you active on this RU-vid anymore but this is exactly what I'm majoring in , I really wish we could speak further hopefully I get a reply back?

@@amierduque9671 what did you want to ask about?

@@musiicfreakk93 great ! I'm in Brooklyn college currently majoring in business administration and was wondering how you got this job and what is it ?

@@amierduque9671 Are you on the campus with the big clock on it? Go Bulldogs!

Even if it was, it sure is a golden piece.

there's many forms of capital in life. Not just economic capital. There's cultural and symbolic capital, which being a plumber doesn't give you much of.

+Christina Bernat TL DR

I guess the money they charge you to get a symbolic degree is not symbolic though...

agreed..i know plumbers that charge $100 an hour and the people with all these fancy degrees have no issue problem paying when the hot water is out lol.

working shlub who wants to be a dirty plumber

Did you know the word success is only in the Bible one time? See what God says about success.

Keep telling yourself this. It's good for self esteem

@@sirennoir258 College graduates make on average $1,200,000 over their lifetime than non-college graduates. source: APLU

Ok, so tell us how these young adult postgrads in Europe get ahead, Hoss.

@@ssian5678 pretty easily tbh

What degrees and jobs are in demand in europe? I am planning to study there

@@ssian5678 self-educate through books and practising the knowledge and skill you are learning from those books.

@@badass6300 Who are writing those books you blabbering clown?

Tf?

@@Lazymath007_ pretty much. This was clear back in the late 1980s so being foolish with education is not new. The difference is her parents paid for that worthless degree instead of student loans.

Yikes. That is BAD. Man, this college business thing really benefits when people are unaware.

So missed the point of the whole books. Russian language translation is always wrong.

@@Bababui69 yup. If she had learned Russian then she would have been able to get a good job not to mention actually understanding the material. Ironically with a physics degree I had to achieve mastery in Spanish and I took Spanish literature and read the texts in Spanish! I had more depth in language than she did!

i feel your pain, got nearly the same amount in debt and got shocked how low the salaries are, now am just doubting why i chose it as a major in the first place

It has been one year since your comment, have you found a good job? whats been going on man

That’s fine, you have every right to major in whatever you want.. just don’t complain when you owe 100k+ in loans and you can’t find a job. No one is saying you HAVE to do STEM. We, and Dave, are saying that people study useless degrees when they can’t AFFORD to and then get upset when they can’t make more that $9 and can’t find a job that relates to their “interests”.. and then complain about the loans they signed up for.

I spent a year studying what i wanted but felt that there was no opportunity in it. So I switch. While I still enjoy botinay as a hobbie, but the year spent studying it was a waste.

Don't worry about a STEM field, I got a mechanical engineering degree and am still working construction...

So go to the library and read a book. Travel the world, go to an art museum, watch a lecture online. Don't spend $30,000+ on a useless degree in said subject.

I love to eat, so I will major in competitive food eating and have Joey Chestnut teach me how to eat more.

Some people go to college to get an education, not to get a job. It's a personal choice, there's no sense in criticising somebody for wanting an education.

@@rosskeeling4459 No criticism here. As I said, a college degree is like a badge of honor. That''s true even if you don't use it in your occupation. That being said, a good return on the investment in college is something that a student should at least be aware of. I know people who got degrees only for their own satisfaction, not based on occupation. They say they would do it all over again just for the college experience and the knowledge. That being said, if you chose badly, then don't complain about your student loan. As the old saying goes, experience is no substitute for education and vice versa.

M-agYn MusYk I Agree.

yeh but you're getting into debt for a recommended books list. if you become a university teacher, all you have to do is reccomend books.

M-agYn MusYk sorry but without money your a loser..

If your doing something that pays 20-30k a year your going to be living paycheck by paycheck.

AlisaBosconovich Not of you're living on 15-20k a year

a useful degree is one that pays for itself, a degree in pop culture is useless where are the jobs for that?

Cristóbal Trujillo I completely agree. In many cases, a university degree, is more of a status marker than preparation for a job. It is not “useless” but many people do not seem to understand its purpose.

Additionally, the economy today changes so quickly. There are many people who had degrees in fields that made millions in the 80s and 90s that don’t exist anymore. There are many of us now who work in fields that will not exist 10 years from now. The most useful thing you can have isn’t a degree in a “useful” field, but the ability to be flexible, pick up new skills quickly and never be so tied into one field that you can’t pivot as necessary.

@@kercchan3307 No, you're making the assumption that study is a means to an end, which is exactly what the OP was saying. If someone has an interest in learning about popular culture, then studying it at BA level isn't useless. You're entire contention is built on an assumption.

@@kaganplant167 a college degree should be designed to get a job in real life, culture degrees are arent worth the paper they are printed on. STEM degrees offer a far better chance to get a job in the job market. Culture degrees dont fulfill any real life jobs they just say I went to college and got a party degree. any decent employer will pick the solid hard to get degree on a application over a party degree. unless it is a affirmative action hire.

Right up there with Gender Studies.

Tommy Truth hey polka is way better 😤

What did she major in?

@@Lazymath007_ lesbian dance theory.

@@themr2005 😂

Larry Duran you lie

Shawn Afshar yes it is. Get out there and find out what you want to do, learn it from someone else then start your own business dling it.

yup what i am in the process of doing

Gonser Family Insurance Agency it's not a waste of time without college I wouldn't have been able to get into medical school

Kelly medical field is one of the only exceptions for the most part college has a horrible return of investment good for you

I agree with you completely. However,most employers nowadays require their candidates to have a bachelor degree at least.Otherwise, they won't even look at their resumes and for certain fields like medical, a degree is a must to get your foot in the door.

That's sad to hear. I'm going for BA in psychology as well.

@@ranip7644 how are you doing now?

sebastian aminoff if you put yourself in tons of debt to get “smarter” and not richer, you’re an idiot.

Unless he’s going to be writing books or teaching philosophy. Then there’s not really a point for majoring in just that.

Being in debt your whole life makes me think you are not smart

@@gustavogutierrez2709 There's no point in studying something for learning's sake?

Kagan Plant I mean if you have the money for it. But if you just want to learn about something, then your local book store would do just fine.

You can get knowledge by reading books, watching documentaries, you don't need to pay 50K in student loan debt and throw away 4 years of your youth to get "education", college is an investment, if you don't get good skills valuable on the labor market, then college isn't worth it

Виктор Гонтар I don’t think you understand the pursuit of knowledge at all. You genuinely believe the only reason to spend money on an education would be to make profits long term? I actually find that kinda sad. Regardless, many academics and professors would disagree. Do you think Einstein spent massive amounts of time discovering the formula for general relativity so he could win millions of dollars? Do you think Descartes discovered Cartesian Truths because he wanted make ends meet? These people had a genuine drive to learn and it made them LEADERS in their respective fields, and it made their lives more complete in ways money could never do.

@@kingsloth4106 Let's examine your examples. First of, Descartes got a bachelor in Law, not in Philosophy. So it's pretty clear that he didn't obtain his knowledge in university. If he pursued Philosophy, it's because he was passionate about it. He got his knowledge by himself and by reading books written by other philosophers. And Einstein got a degree in mathematics and physics, which is a good degree. No they didn't achieve all these things by pursuing money, but by pursuing their passion. Descartes was passionate about Philosophy, but he wouldn't have been able to live of his passion in his early life. So he got a degree in field where he could make money and wrote about his Philosophy in his free time, before he got successful enough to live off of his passion. And if you are passionate about something worthy on the labor market like Einstein, then wonderful ! I don't advocate for pursuing millions in profit, just to be able to live comfortably and not being stuck as an underpaid waiter with 30 000 $ in student loan debt after getting a degree in film school. I always was passionate about history, but I knew I wouldn't be able to get a job with a degree in that field (especially in Russia), so I pursued another more lucrative passion: Programming. I fell in love with it, got a degree in Computer Science and now I live comfortably and still read books about history and watch podcasts in my free time.

Виктор Гонтар I agree with this position, but only because it’s a much more sensible position than the one presented in the video. Would it be beneficial for someone to have some kind of monetary stability before pursuing their academic goals? Absolutely. However, the guy in this video had a position that leaned more towards calling people’s pursuits in academia “useless” because it doesn’t have economic value, implying that degrees in academia only have value if you could possibly make money from it. That’s the position I’m trying to hone in on. Quick point of correction: While it is true that descartes got a degree in law, he was in academia studying logic, Aristotelian Philosophy, and mathematics (Geometry specifically) long before any of his settling into law.

@@kingsloth4106 Wow, first time I see a RU-vid comments debate end that well.

Well I have a B.S. in chewing bubble gum, and I like to think I'm better than most. Nobody seems to care or want to hire me.

That is 100% correct. It's good to be worried about GPA and work hard to get good grades, but the person who has average grades but has outstanding projects and internship experience will get the job compared to the person who just has outstanding grades.

Giuseppe Sarto go ahead and use that knowledge to change the world my man. No knowledge is useless knowledge.

Giuseppe Sarto From an employability perspective it doesn't look too great. Although, you would destroy anyone in a one on one debate.

Chris DePrimo no knowledge is useless, however not all knowledge is valuable and worth the investment

And don’t spend time worrying about “ who will hire me” don’t strive to an be employee, strive to be you own boss

Community college good for retraining

No one goes into music expecting to come out wealthy.

Computer programming is like learning a new speaking language. Some people can't comprehend it and struggle to even get pass the beginners level.

You could make the same salary as a music teacher and only have to work 185 days a year. Always go with your passion! If you like computer programming though more power to you!

How is Job Security within Electrical Engineering? I am about to major in it.

@@lekinala7951 Watch out when they make you start to plug stuff into power sockets.

@@computer-training-for-seniors Would you recommend Electrical Engineering? My other choice is economics.

@@computer-training-for-seniors bro just answer the question, holy

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jimwalsh2001 Why is It useless?

No job market for it. Most "business" degrees are mostly focused on accounting or finance(If you go to an ivy league college"

Micahel Roach Maybe if you have a low gpa I did a quick check and you can find many jobs in accounting I just researched jobs in the big four and I found many starting position internship or staff in Deloitte one of the big four.

jorge castle that's my point. The only business degree that actually has a job market is accounting. Otherwise, if you major in "business management" or "business administration" then you are in big trouble.

I have an art degree and i am not starving, been employed as an illustrator and product designer over 20 yrs. no regrets

@@rp338 Yes, it can be done! My maternal grandfather was a cavalryman in WWI and became art director at an ad agency in Chicago, which was when I knew him. I remember him as a grumpy old guy who wouldn't let us watch TV cartoons on Sunday afternoons at his house because he wanted the Cubs games on, even though he was in the kitchen and not watching. My dad's family included Uncle Charles, an art teacher in New Jersey. He also did newspaper cartoons and things like that but living where he did, I didn't know him well.

+Mikazuki Apostasa if you can switch to math and econ, do it! that's where all the jobs are these days. i studied science and...

both finance and econ are useless you're not going to become an investment banker unless you work hard in the top tier ivy league schools. It is either STEM, Accounting, IT(depends), medical, and maybe GIS

would have to disagree, economics degree is very versatile as you can work in operations management and do accounting, consulting or banking.

Versatility is the key. Finance, Econ and Accounting do exactly that.

lol economics is the worst degree you can possibly get an the undergrad level. It's a social science program, no better than majoring in psychology. It's the same thing I hear about psychology majors boasting how they'll be counseling people and doing research studies for careers after they graduate. Good grief, you aren't doing that until you have a graduate level degree. Econ is no different. And top econ grad programs the best applicants are actually MATH majors because grad level econ is taught completely different than a social science driven undergrad program.

Wow. Where at? I might have to return to school, and that isn't a devastating price

James Pestell exactly the problem I was facing a few weeks ago, I live in Germany so the risk of massive student loans was not really an issue for me and my parents could cover the other expenses, therefore I had an even bigger insentive to just pursue history. what is the worst that could happen right? (*Spoilers* not finding a job) Well in the end I still choose an economics degree, now I kind of feel like I am gonna regret that for the rest of my life, but I would have most likely regretted choosing history as well after not finding any job related to it. There really is no right choice here. I’m am just gonna pay my bills with a "normal" job and make history a nice hobby I guess

@@niggo.0300 that was exactly my situation, here in Italy

Why not pursue it as a hobby while studying a money making trade/career?

@@CyberPhiliosopher That's what I decided, at the end

Baldemar Guerra that’s what I am doing my dude

Nice

"data science"/Analytics has nothing to do with physics, and that's because you can work as data science analytics from any major, as long as you have basic understanding of mathematics/statistics. So you don't have to have STEM degree for it.

No you don't need it but for the type of data science work i do ( predictive analytics) employers wont take you seriously without having a quantitative background due to the coding involved and statistical analysis involved. Non-STEM majors usually don't have an easy time obtaining these jobs.

Xenthoid quantitative ≠ STEM. Accountancy and Economics are 2 of the most basic examples of non-stem quantitative degrees. Also, even in social sciences in general, quantitative research also exists.