I know this random but fam my mom recently found out about my weed channel where i smoke weed in my videos & now i be thinking about quitting or deleting my stuff now.. I haven’t even made it 😭😭
Because she repeating lies from news people and thinks she is smart.. also she is only famous because her uncle is Chucky Schumer the main nyc political guy. Without him, we would not even know Amy, truly obvious..
I had a really fucked up childhood and movies were my greatest escape from that trauma…I can’t even begin to describe how important they were to me. Today, in my 30’s, I couldn’t care less about them. Completely fell out of love with modern cinema
This is all very similar to what Frank Zappa said about the direction the music industry was headed in the late 90's. Zappa said, and you can find this video on RU-vid, that in the early 1960's the music producers were cigar chomping businessmen who just took a swing at the music industry. If an artist sold, it was a good investment. Ultimately the businessmen were picking artists that showed promise of return, meaning they had the talent and the chops to perform well. At some point, the businessmen got replaced by younger more pop-oriented businessmen and producers who began to nip and tuck artists into an ideality that followed a corporate formula that guaranteed album sales. Here we are today, with the likes of Justin Beiber, Taylor Swift and Bhad Babie.
The point he was making was that the old execs had no idea what they were listening to, so they just gave any bunch of hippies a go. Which is how Zappa explains how people like him got to release a record in the first place. As soon as people started to make commercial value judgments on artists and material, was the end of his functional relationship with the record business.
Rap/hip hop doesn’t follow that recipe.. Someone gets popular on SoundCloud or RU-vid, then a popular mainstream artist wants their hype so they get that new artist to do a feature on their single, then everyone is introduced to that new artist through the old artist who is popular already.
He's not wrong. "30 people at a board table" making films today is why so many have given up on modern Hollywood and go looking for real films in the past.
Dumb. Go watch a movie in the 70s and 80s and they were bitching about the same old shit. Just another old guy who no one cares about, and barely did at his prime. He made low budget shit no one saw.
Here is what he is struggling to articulate -- the mid level film that he made has mostly disappeared. The $10-30M film. Why? Because it costs around $50M+ to open a film theatrically these days (in promotion). So studios would rather invest 100M to do spider-man reboot #5, have a property that everyone knows, and recycle the same story with confidence they can get the $. There will also be the occasional $3-5M film made or mid budget level by studios with the hopes of winning an Oscar. But it's the exception not the rule. The decisions about what films are made are largely with marketing in mind. Not artistry. SO, the answer is -- yes, it's because of money. It's not viable to make the mid level films that Mamet is talking about. Thus we've seen film lose it's place as an important place of cultural conversation. It's mainly corporate output. It's cultural fast food. Streamers prefer to make TV/series than film. Why? Attention economy, they want your eyeballs for longer.
Well said. Question: In terms of getting their film made and seen, do you think independent filmmakers would be better off shooting a film with their phone on a shoestring budget OR searching for $5 million to finance/distribute their film?
@@joehart6051 it depends… the simple answer is many filmmakers have gone to tv. The low budg world is tricky but it does exist. Lots of horror films being made for $1M or lower and doing well. Low budg dramas are tough to recoup, even with success in festivals etc. There are micro budget films. Shoot a film on $25k with a tiny crew and few locations. You could self distribute and potentially make money. But the $1M dramas that Netflix were buying 5 years ago are often not being bought now. So choices are tv, micro/no budget as you say (not necessarily phone, but down and dirty yes), or go after the $5m film but it will have to be a very compelling case to get it made on most occasions.
True. It's startling to see the parallels between film and politics. Marketing and advertising run the world, if you don't fit a certain mold, you don't have a chance.
So much truth in all of this, well said. The mid budget success stories seem to come more and more from Netflix, Amazon, etc - huge companies that have the money to make them and give us our "nostalgia throwback" to when movies were well-made and focused entirely on good plots, acting, etc. And of course power broker A-list celebrities with deep pockets can produce/direct/star in these types of things whenever they want and make sure they're being marketed on all the right platforms. In some ways, the game really changed with indie films starting in late 80s. It was a healthy (er) time for the industry. But the dominance of streaming combined with huge attrition in people physically going to the movies has completely changed all that. Prediction: large studios as well as streaming service companies will continue to fund smaller and mid budget films through their own subsidiary channels so that we the people get our "fix"of intelligent/quality films - and through doing this those studios and tech companies will attract and groom A-level young people for their own (studio) rosters. Side note: Glengary GlennRoss is one of m favorite films of all time. It's for people who love great acting, and of course that script is as close to modern Shakespeare as we're gonna get (so far).
@@hydrangeablue8928 back then and after you had the DVD home video market which was still healthy. But there's just less being made these days (more tv tho). In the long run it's a mistake because you can only cannibalise successes of the past with sequels for so long. I think we've already seen a reduction of the relevance of cinema/film. Streamers will make or buy the occasional awards bait film, but it's limited...
@@dirkdiggler9882 Yes! The problem is twofold: (1)Corporations now use managers to find ways to increase production with less resources and (2)managers now only work to get promoted & not improve their teams.
The movie experience has certainly changed. When I was a kid and the Ninja Turtles movie came out, it was like a seismic event. You'd have the movie poster almost a year in advance, you couldn't wait. Then in the mid nineties, summer blockbusters like Titanic and Independence Day were like cultural touchstones, everyone saw them. Things have changed. We watch movies on our laptops, alone in our rooms. So much variety means everyone has their own idiosyncratic taste, watches their own films. When you actually do try going to a movie theater, it's expensive, the popcorn is flavorless, and goddamn but people don't know how to behave in public anymore. Went to see Batman recently and I shit you not, tweens were on their phones and running up the aisles for three hours. You don't feel that sense of a communal experience. That said, it's not all bad news. The indy horror scene has been stellar post 2000s. Good indy films still get made, you just have to surf the internet and find them.
It goes deeper than that. When I would watch Ninja Turtles as a kid, I would see that scene where Raphael goes to the theatre and Critters is playing and he says "where do they come up with this stuff?" and it looked so ridiculous and cool that I assumed they made it as a joke just for the movie. Then one day my cousin and I are at the Blockbuster and see Critters 2. Not only is it real, but theres more! That experience cant be replicated today.
Damn, kids are running in theatres while the movie is playing? I thought my current residence, Brussels, was filled with hyper kids, but this is something else.
On the other hand, I saw Batman with my wife and we were in a row of 14-16 year old kids and they were all well behaved, quiet, and respectful. So, you win some you lose some.
They used to pay directors to go off and make the movies that the directors wants. Now they pay the director to make their movie. So the movie relates more to a board of people than a world full of possible directors, I agree. Video games have this same dilemma, Studios bring you more of the same where indies have to explore new ideas to get noticed.
It was several things that destroyed the industry. The movie committees in corporations and the move away from film in cinema to digital. A 35mm celluloid shown on a projector has a resolution of about 8k and colors that no digital system can even come close to. Digital looks horrible playing horrible films is a reason why the industry is in a tail spin.
This conversation with Mamet was spot on in showing the huge emotional uplift that films used to have to current obsequious and vacuous films of today. Great to hear another adult brave enough to even mention what’s happened in Hollywood film making. Hollywood won’t excoriate him because he’s “old” and not a threat to mainstream bubble that is Hollywood .
@@pigactor You‘re right, I did not know that movie. Then this movie and also the headband David wears in the video make the connection pretty obvious. I still have to check out the Full interview on Spotify. This should be interesting …
@@scottmilano2940 yeah, Mamet has always been more of a theatre guy in my book. He made some cult movies in the late 80s/early 90s and everything he did from then on is not so well known to me. However, he wrote and published a great book on how to direct film. On the other hand, as far as I know he won pretty much every award a playwright can possibly win (although I am much more of a Cineast than an expert on American theatre …)
This was such an interesting video. He's right, the only thing Hollywood is capable of is reusing old ideas. Reduce, Reuse, Recycle despite having endless resources
It’s not about being incapable it’s all about return on investment aka greed at the top. The investors want to cater to the most mindless movie watchers bc they’re easy marks…just like US politics But like every other industry ruined by greed from the top the simple masses just lazily blame it on politics…because they’re instructed to
@@ashiibabiibbcluver2167 And who gave the reigns to ccp? You'l probably never guess, but China doesn't take over the world that quick without permission from the owners of the world. All roads lead to Rome.
I have to agree with him. That’s why we keep getting remakes and franchises. They have a successful superhero, they make the merch, they then follow up with another subpar movie to keep the character relevant and the merch selling… I hope we’ll be blessed with more Tarantinoesque people creating new, thought provoking movies soon. 🤞
And I hope we never have to be subjected to hipster-esque, quasi-provocative revenge fantasies peppered with racial slurs and cliche soundtracks ever again. And I'd love to hear what thoughts a Tarantino film ever "provoked" in you.... I'll assume they went something like this.... "Wow, imagine a world where jews, women and blacks were actually formidable forces in the universe!, Wow man! N-word, N-word, N-word etc....."
@@Craig-gq4gb Your response was well thought out and delicately nuanced. Clearly the thought process of someone with "taste". I'll take it as a given that you think "Requiem for a Dream" is the perfect date movie. Enjoy being spoon-fed your culture.
@@rustyspigot1876 Going to the cinema is a shit date no matter the movie, why go somewhere that you can't talk to get to know someone? Love how you assume things about people even though your assumptions are completely wrong. Also, who would you 'rate' if Tarantino doesn't do it for you?
@@rustyspigot1876 i love tarantino but liked and agree your roast of him 😆 To be fair i love his movies mainly cause they're different. A bit funny, a bit rough, and going from serious to silly, from slow paced to crazyness in seconds...i don't think they're that great but is not another batman/spiderman
House of Games, Things Change and Homicide were the first three films David Mamet wrote and directed and they are all fantastic! I miss his films. One of the greatest writers of all time!
He wrote the untouchables and Ronin, and a lot of other stuff. David Mamet is a great writer. He’s as good as George gallo, Brian Helgeland, David koepp, Christopher mcquarrie, etc.
@@citizen1163 Well, Rogan is moderately intelligent but only a philistine would ever characterize him as achieving any level of brilliance outside of popular noteriety.
@@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat Ouch! 😆 I only watch for certain guests when JR always appeared totally absorbed, unlike this time. David Mamet deserved better.
@@citizen1163 I think this interview was a little over his head but I applaud him for taking a different direction than his usual athlete/influencer terrain. David Mamet has something to say and joes audience should relate to him even if he’s outside their normal world.
Frank Zappa said basically the same thing about the music industry. It used to be the execs were cigar-chomping businessmen who knew nothing about what people wanted to hear, so they let the artists put out what they wanted to make. These guys were willing to take a chance. But then those old execs got replaced by younger snobs who thought they knew more about what people wanted to hear than the artists, so the industry became more formulaic in music production and less encouraging of artists to take risks and be truly inventive.
Technology allows the artist to self-record, self-promote, and self-produce. The "record-company" business model is obsolete, and completely unnecessary. Billie Eilish has proven to the world that you don't need corporate grift to 'make it' in the music business.
Eugene O'Neal, Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, David Mamet...this guy is one of the faces on Mt. Rushmore of great American playwrites. Attention must be paid.
This is the weakest genre of American literature and doesn't merit a Mt. Rushmore. Nobody even reads Miller anymore, with the possible exception of his one lucky strike.
@@lynnturman8157 I would argue that Edward Albee, Sam Shepard, August Wilson, Lorraine Hansberry, and Tony Kushner deserve to be included in that conversation.
@@kreek22 Miller's one lucky strike? Which one was that? All My Sons? The Crucible? A View From The Bridge? After the Fall? I assume you mean Death of a Salesman, but Arthur Miller's career writing for stage and screen spanned SIX DECADES. His work continues to be revived and adapted at every level of theater production in this century.
David Mamet is incredible. And incredibly wise. I can listen to him speak for hours. His book on acting, True & False, is an OUTSTANDING read whether you’re an actor or not. Easily one of my top 5 books of all time.
Great point about "The Method of distribution determines the content"....definitely applies in the music industry as well...... both positively and negatively
Mamet’s the master of dialogue heavy, character driven films, which are basically plays that have been transferred to the big screen. Most movies today are about stars, action and technology. The younger generation has really been trained to only enjoy the latter. It’s all they know. Too bad for them. 😂
🌈THE CUTE GIRL ARE🌈 SWEET-GIRL.UNO/Vibes de los mejores 🍑 11:12 Sun: "Hotter" 11:12 Hopi: "Sweeter" 00:18 Joonie: "Cooler" 18:00 Yoongi: "Butter" 15:55 Son unos de los mejores conciertos , no puede ir pero de tan solo verlos desde pantalla, se que estuvo sorprendente..
Even Fight Club, Die Hard, and The Matrix couldn't get made today because they involve blowing up skyscrapers. After 9/11, that wasn't acceptable. The Basketball Diaries and Battle Royale couldn't get made now after Columbine in 1999 either. But I'm not sure that would count as "being woke" if the studios don't want to deal with the controversy of having that as part of the movie.
Watching this a second time, I THINK he's saying that films aren't made with heart and a level of love and ingenuity and inspiration. Like the first Star Wars film (1977). Now they're made with all these fearful decisions. Like the latest Star Wars movie. I think that's what he's getting at: how films are BORN now.
Agree with everything he said here. I literally just left the film industry a week ago because of how far it's falling, and how it's crumbling under the weight of it's own hypocrisy.
Same thing has happened to the video games industry. Power has been taken away from the devs and now publishers have complete control. The problem is that both directors and video game developers want to create an amazing experience but the corporate overlords only want a product.
@@Houndguardian Your using games like Pokémon Arceus as a benchmark for high quality video game production? Bruh hahahaha. Thanks for proving his point right dummy. Games most definitely have been commercialized and most triple A games focus more on shareholders than consumers. Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West were the only games in your list of trash worth any praise. In the early 2000s there was a plethora of high quality games catered to their player base with that same quality of care in Elden Ring released every three months not every three years. No pay to play, no repeat delayed releases, no beta release Ponzi schemes, no loot boxes, no woke propaganda, and they had several game labels competing at the time with no major mergers. You know absolutely zero of what you’re talking about.
@@Houndguardian Yea Captain Obvious you’re finally right about something, corporate interests destroy game quality using a model of low output high income and marketing strategies. So if we can agree corporatism is bad for making quality games then you would have to be living in a fantasy world if you think there was just as much corporate interests involved in gaming in the early 2000s compared to 2022. Are you really gonna die on this hill?
@james tiberius Where do you think the market for indie games came from? Stir that one around in the little peanut. Also was I talking about indie games or Triple A games? Indie games are all over but they only represent 28% of the total game market. The other 72% are Triple A games. Indie games are niche and don't have the budgets for a major production. My very point was that Triple A games were being made every 3 months in the early 2000s. And it's not MY opinion buddy, it's the consensus amongst gamers. Google the decline of gaming. There are literally hundreds of articles and videos dedicated to the subject that you think is exclusively my opinion.
@james tiberius What about you? Where are your facts? Do you have any to support your argument? So why say someone doesn't have them without supporting any yourself? I tend to think gaming has declined quite a bit just in the last 10 years. It's become acceptable for AAA games to release so botched that players have to wait for an update before being able to play the game. An overabundance of remakes, remasters, and sequels that floods the market without changing textures, assets, or gameplay. Look at Skyrim SE or the entire Far Cry series. The corporatization of gaming and shady practices of publishers and developers promising features that are never added to the game or adding pay to play models to their games after promising their player base they wouldn't. Today AAA games listen more to their investors than their player base, why do you think a behemoth like World of Warcraft would continuously piss off their players by adding WoW tokens, level boosts, and store mounts when they were universally detested by the players themselves? It's because shareholders only care about bottom line and not the player experience. In the end the greed usually begins to deteriorate the player base and the games eventual bottom line is hurt but that takes time. World of Warcraft is a perfect example of that.
Jim Carey is just another woke lunatic Hollywood elitist, the latest issue is just an example of the woke eating the woke. It’s so funny to sit back and watch when these issues arise and watch how confused and erratic that whole scene gets with all of them running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
Articular? Please listen to the whole show, he's struggling to express himself clearly & presents several parallels that are reaally off throughout the show
@@xGribbles that's not unregulated capitalism, that's crony capitalism. That's corporation's getting so big and using the political system we have now to push the regulations they want enforced on competition. In an unregulated market you wouldn't have big Pharma paying off politicians so that they put in laws that make damn sure no small company can make the same medicine for a fraction of the price
One of the few Hollywood figures who appears to have remained sane. Love his films and the man seems very self critical and honest. His work is partly ciphered a la ACD, Tolstoy, or like his fellow film maker Sergio Leone. Only their styles are different. There's a hidden layer underneath even the superb and detailed dialogues he writes. Multi faceted genius.
Most of the stuff he's saying they were saying 20, 30 years ago. "There's no room for indie film; only action films (replace that now with superhero films)." "Everything's too corporate...nobody takes a chance anymore." "You have movies being made for a million dollars and movies made for 100 million dollars, nothing in between anymore."
The issue is artistic expression becomes less significant and more watered down. This happens naturally when you have movies with budgets of tens of millions of dollars and hundreds of people working on it. People are more concerned with creating something profitable rather than something artistically significant, because creative expression is far more financially risky
@@bbbkkk3034 Actually, no, this is the issue with most films. They simply end up being illustrated literature. Cinema needs to go beyond that. I agree that social commentary should only be a byproduct of a certain vision, but the evocation of emotions is far more important than a story. Great cinema isn't about informing.
That's not entirely true. I'm a fan of horror, and the genre has experienced a renaissance post 2000s. A lot of it has to do with the advent of the digital camera and artists making movies on a smaller budget, and having more creative license. Lotta great indy work out there but they don't have a marketing budget so consumers have to find it. In a way, the internet itself is the new way of promoting films, and it's free. So it's a bad time for mainstream film but a good time for indies.
A huge part of the problem is over saturation. Even if you make a great indie film, how can you possibly stand out on these streaming services which have massive libraries including things they’ve produced and are putting up front.
Shitlord comes to mind. He's not wrong about the marketing committees and board meeting decisions that take away from film, but he's one hell of a crotchety old man and this is coming from someone that's 40.
Such a great decade. Goodfellas, dumb and dumber, pulp fiction, forest gump, toy story, boogie nights, casino, fight club, Billy Madison, saving private ryan, heat, good will hunting, and Tommy Boy.
@@donaldblack5530 i have spotify and i pay for it.. but i find i still dont listen now that hes switched. Maybe its the format of spotify its not very intriguing
@@filabila It's because you don't have the rich, vibrant RU-vid community to chat with "in real time" while watching. Just admit it, you want us to watch it with you.
Sooo shitty. I live in an area where only RU-vid and Facebook work reliably. Can’t watch Twitch, can’t use Spotify or Instagram. Going from watching him every podcast for 8 years and then having to go cold turkey only getting random 3 min clips on RU-vid was hard lol
Idk man. Look at young creators on RU-vid nowadays. They make movie like cinema in their guest bedrooms. This is the era of the independent makers. Its cheaper, better and easier now, more than ever.
David Mamet - wow. He gets it. The suits decide. Not the creative guys with an idea for a movie. And as much as we love our Netflix, NOTHING can replace the experience of "let's go see a movie". Sinking into those seats, in a dark theater, losing time and space for 90 minutes. It was a country-wide shared experience. Now? So many choices of streaming this or that, a zillion shows you can watch. It's exhausting. Great interview snippet, thanks!
The automobile analogy is the best. Creativity has to be left up to the individual and you have to allow for failure, but that's where you get greatness and art that affects culture.
I think there’s never been a time where the means to make movies is more affordable and accessible to independent filmmakers. The problem is that they can make more money with less risk shooting TikTok or RU-vid videos. Creatives don’t have the patience to make feature length films and audiences don’t have the patience to watch them.
I agree. Throw in the process of hiring actors and getting permits to shoot, it is a lot harder than it should be without some help and a bigger company name backing you and providing some assistance.
David Mamet has written and made some incredible movies with such great detail and dialogue. Shame so many mouthbreathers just want to watch Mickey Mouse marvel CGI bullshit anymore.
You claim that people only want to watch Marvel CGI, but the last 3 Marvel movies have flopped. The craving for comic movies is waning because the woke mob infected them and nobody wants to watch that crap.
Paraphrasing Roger Scruton. "Everyone is conservative when it comes to things they care about." Regardless of politics, we want to see things we care about preserved, and if they must change, we want that change to be only for the betterment of the thing we care about.
I think there is one important point missed....Hollywood is now more concerned with ideology and moral preaching than entertainment. Many in that machine will rather prove their moral superiority than make money.
Not really, it's just the mainstream movies that get marketed everywhere that are like that. There are still hundreds of lower budget films getting released in theaters amc on streaming services that are great amc unique.
Its arguably easier than ever. I have a blackmagic 6k on my shelf right now. I have a small lighting/grip truck in my driveway. Its amazing what me and 2 other person can capture alone.
@@bighands69 wrong. Movies are about emotions progression in a narrative form. More like music than literature, as Kubrick said. Also some amazing movies have been shot even with consumer cameras, as Upstream Color from Shane carruth. Sicario is a great movie, shot with a digital camera, Alexa,, haywire is a good b action flick, shot with a digital camera, red, zodiac is one of if not the best David fincher movie, shot with a digital camera, phantom… but you are right, having a Blackmagic 6K and some lights and not gathering a group of friends, Conrads,with the passion to share an overall emotion via a narrative visual structure doesn’t make some one a filmmaker… and most RU-vid filmmakers, you are right again, are just making videos and not telling real meaningful stories.
Very insightful conversation from David and Joe. I looked up David on Wikipedia he’s been involved with all the brilliant actors. One of my favourite films Glengarry Glen Ross he did the screenplay for. All star young cast Jack Lemmon Al Pacino Kevin Spacey Alec Baldwin Ed Harris Jonathon Pryce Alan Arkin Worth a look
Rogan is kind of missing the point. The Tarantino’s and Wes Anderson’s of Hollywood are insanely rare. And even their films have to go through a major studio, script has to be workshopped, and a budget has to be figured out. While those directors have more control then 99% of films being made, even their films are not what he’s talking about where Directors were truly given freedom to just go off on their own back in the day. Even Tarantino has admitted that he’s had films impacted by the studio. Situations where he had to pay out of pocket to save certain scenes and shots. If he wasn’t rich as hell then his film would have been reigned in. The only other example of an auteur is Christopher Nolan. But hes a rare breed where his unique visions also happen to be major Hollywood blockbusters that are a hit with mainstream viewers (altho Tenent didnt do so hot). But yeah point is, even those type of filmmakers are being pushed out. And less of their content is being made.
There is a future where Hollywood bends the knee to RU-vid as one of the major distributors of entertainment content. One major tell is every studio pushes content hard on YT. YT is a viable distribution vertical and it's a beautiful thing for independent filmmakers out there.
RU-vid tried to get into the content and movie business but failed. Netflix, apple and Amazon are the major players. Warner and Paramount are now trying to get into the game a well. There is Disney now as well.
@@bighands69 they tried, once. Google is patient. I am sure they are working on a new angle. The markets are up for grabs. I regard Amazon more as an adjunct studio. I do not think they are leaders. Netflix is a content king, but watch back the Mr Beast ep. He makes more views than Netflix has subscribers. I know there are many variables, but YT has some untapped financial leverage that I think they have been gathering. This is why I said there is a future... We'll see as things play out, but I don't disagree with you.
People have a hard time making him a good interview subject. Yet he’s genius. He is a great writer director and thinker. But his mind is the ultimate contradiction in what you usually get in a person. He’s a creative mind like an artist and a conservative sense and soul and the two don’t speak well together So it is to his plays movies and writing that you go. If you listen closely everything he is saying is worth reflecting on.
I would love to love going back to see movies on the big screen, but there’s just nothing worth seeing. The irony is that I collected comic books when I was a kid, still have them, and even though I hold those characters in high regard I find the comic movies boring. I don’t know why but I just do.
"I can't get good help." "I can't get a good job." Usually, they're both right; it's the same kind of self-centered asshole who won't put in a day's work themselves who thinks that other people should be slaving away for them as replaceable parts in poorly-designed work environments.
I hear that I wonder where all the complaining comes from on both sides of the coin…I’m so confused on what is going on but I know where everything is headed….
Finding work and help is immediately solved if implementing calendar reform. The calendars used to be based on analyzing skills and purpose. We had that for thousands of years.
What resonated with me the most, is what Chris Stuckmann said about trying to get his movie(s) made. He said he showed the scripts to various execs and their answer was always the same: “Okay this sounds very promising, but it doesnt say anything about out current world. If you could work in some real world issues in your script, it would be great!” (paraphrased) He said that EVERY SINGLE STUDIO gave him the exact same response. Movies now always have to reflect on our current times and the result is that those movies age instantly because the popular topics that are being forcibly inserted into our culture have to cater to the twitter outrage mob and those topics change at a pace that just makes a lot of movies feel dated even if they came out 1-2 years ago. And worst of all, these themes usually pull you out instantly out of the experience (That one line by Catwoman in The Batman is a great example, those who know, know what i mean). Movies are not escapism anymore, which makes no sense considering the elites are doing everything they can to keep reality out of our brains. As movie-holic, it’s devastating what happened to hollywood, we only have a handful of directors who take chances. A couple years ago more directors took them.
I hear what you're saying. And I know about the line in The Batman, which did seem out of place. I do wonder about this idea that movies must now reflect on "current times." Is that really a new concept? I don't think so. When has that not been the case when it comes to great cinema? Good films always speak to the times, going going back every decade for 100 years. There is great cinema still being released, especially oversees. Foreign film may never have been better, and that's because more and more people are getting resources to make films. You just have to seek more stuff out. This idea that cinema is dead or corrupted is misguided. It's just the end of an era. That doesn't mean there aren't amazing filmmakers today. Look: Eggers, Safdie Bros., Kelly Reichardt, PT Anderson, Barry Jenkins, Richard Linklater, Chloe Zhao (watch her first two films), the list goes on and on my friend....Did Taxi Driver age poorly because it's about a Vietnam vet with PTSD? Did Network age poorly because it's about news media sensationalism? Not even close. To your point, it's moments like The Batman line that seem out of place because they are either poorly written or timed. Twenty years from now, that Batman line might feel less out of place.
@@jacquesmoran3901 Movies are dying because they are being carefully curated to appease the mob. There are definitely gems out there, but the idea of “Cinema” is lost in translation to streaming. And there is a difference between how movies portrayed issues vs they portray it now: In the example of Taxi Driver, its the POINT of the movie to show the horrors of PTSD. In the Joker, its the POINT of the movie to show the decline of an individuals mental health, while showing societies indifference to the issue. However, Star Wars The Last Jedi’s point was its initial plot of the main heroes escaping the the bad guys in space, until the movie literally screeches to a halt and basically directly talks to the audience and says: “Boohoo war bad, capitalism bad”. And of course you have a crazed pink haired woman basically telling a man not to be a man. The audience (unless braindead) becomes aware that this was very obviously forcefully inserted by execs because they are either involved the cult, or they fear repercussions. It so disingenuous that it instantly takes you out of the movie. Taxi Driver is genuine, its themes immerse you into the movie, Catwomans line takes you OUT of the movie. And that kind of stuff always ages badly.
@@reservationatdorsias3215 I see what you're saying now more clearly. I think they're fair points. I do still wonder if it's too broad a generalization and we're overlooking similar instances from decades past, but your point is taken.
