DC's BIGGEST Problem with Their Cinematic Universe Is... || NerdSync 

One could make the argument that DC is focusing too much on the quantity of Marvel films and less on the quality of their own films.

After watching this video, going over what he said and spending a good amount of time thinking about it for a bit, I've finally come to a conclusion... That wasn't Scott.

I loved this video so much for the following reasons: 1. Your voice is very soothing. 2. I love this style of video making. 3. Most importantly because you weren't attacking DCEU, you were trying to support it by suggesting improvements. WELL DONE. I just hope people in the comments don't fight.

Why couldn't wonder woman use the spear? Considering kryptonite doesn't hurt her and she laughed off a punch from doomsday it's pretty dumb she just let superman get killed (not that he actually dies).

A lot of things factor in to what's wrong with the DCEU.. -WB doesn't understand DC and are TOO involved -This universe was NOT planned. Man of Steel was supposed to be the start of a Superman trilogy similar to TDK trilogy. -Announcing too many unnecessary movies without focusing on what's important -Not giving filmmakers enough freedom -Rushing the movies (only gave Ayer 6 weeks to write a summer blockbuster..)

Last time i was this early martha was still alive.

The Martha scene in BvS fight could've been worded better. He could've just said we need to save my Mother. Then add in Martha later. It just seemed out of place just screaming Save Martha! like an idiot.

Making a DC Film: 1. Find main character(s). 2. Make it dark and gritty. 3. Repeat.

I love Man of Steel. Like he said in the video, the problem was that they rushed everything too much.

Your explanation of the movie was better than the actual movie.

I did, unfortunately, give up on the DCCU. After Justice League, I felt as though I'd given them plenty of opportunities to get their movies right. After Man of Steel, BVS, Suicide Squad I was surprised when Wonder Woman was a delightful watch. WW gave me hope for the DCCU and then Justice League proved they hadn't learned anything. They took fan suggestions and made a mess all over again. I won't give my money to a company who continues to make the same mistakes time and time again. I can't do that. I won't be taken advantage of. I just wonder if there is any way I'll go back to watching DC movies again. I can't foresee it happening. how bout you guys?

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Before watching it: Depending on Batman. After Watching video: I agree on so many levels.

I find it so strange how the DC comics are pushing so hard to reintroduce concepts like hope while the DC movies seem completely devoid of it

The fact you have to explain the "Martha" scene shows how bad the story telling of that movie is.

D.C. Fan boys "You just don't understand!!!! You just don't like D.C." Why can't we like D.C. and criticize a film when it fails to live up to its hype?

How in the world do they want to catch up with Marvel. That's impossible.

Superman doesn't act like Superman in these films

Man of steel was okay but a terrible depiction superman . why the heel would supes let his father die It would have been so much better if he had to let John died because Clark had to help save someone else else and he learnt that he can't save everyone . Synder doesn't understand the ideal of supes he's supposed to be an ideal to strive to in this shitty world.

9:02 I'm not Scott. Thanks for stealing my gimmick.

Problem with DCEU is not rushing. MoS and BvS (and JL) are one close story of first contact, consequences of absulute power and reaction of the world. (SS tried that too but failed horribly) The problem is WB being reactionary and so called 'fans' hating without thinking. BvS butchered because of greed, SS script wrote in 6 weeks and after BvS backlash they butchered the film and director's vision even more to add more jokes and action to be more like Marvel. What they need to do hear ideas from directors and let them do their work (of course in some limitation and generel world building) , and stop listening to critics or biased 'fans'. I am really hopefull about Nightwing movie beacuse of the director. I hated BvS thearical cut. But after watching Ultimate Edition it become my favorite comibok movie of 2016.

I always thought that the problem of "martha" would be easily fix by some few more lines in the script, like having batman saying to alfred: "You know what were my father last words alfred?. He said my mothers name, he said martha. He knew he was dying, but instead he cared about the thing he loved most in this world. That is the essence of humanity alferd, an alien with infinte powers will never understand what that love is". And thats that, when the "martha" moment woud appear then we, the audience, would have got more invest in the moment and in batman desicion

Save superman isn't the symbol of hope you described, not as presented in the movie. In the movie he's presented as a moros character that's only reluctantly rescuing people. IN addition, Batman's hatred of Superman is built up on his power, not his lack of humanity. He says very clearly to alfrid that if there's even a 1% chance he could turn evil, he has to kill him. And as an older more evil batman, someone who has seen the worst of humanity in the form of criminals and the joker, Superman saying he has a mom isn't going to change Batman's opinion. It's a case of intent vs execution. The story in theory is good, with the 'iconic' superman and a better script. But we didn't have either. The story pushed batman's motivation for wanting to kill superman past the point where having a mom with the same name should have mattered. And it delivered a superman that was anything but the 'symbol of hope' he is in the comics. They tried, but they failed, and it's been very deservingly ridiculed and hated for that failure.

isnt it funny? dc is having problems with there cinematic universe, and marvel in there comic events jin and jan XD

They just thought captain america would potentially die in civil war so they decided to kill off Superman

I'm 110% convinced that the people who back the DCCU are to a certain extent legitimate fans who love the characters, BUT they do realize the problems the movies have they just don't want to wait any longer for a cinematic universe and just are accepting whatever they can get. so to those people I'd like to ask of you to take your blinders off and not to be afraid to demand better. and to do that you have to criticize the things you love.

DC rushed into when marvel works together and takes time and there actors love there role when DC actors want to quit a.k.a. Ben affleck and marvel tryes to be more relatable more supporting when DC is to dark and that isn't the key to a good movie and marvel builds up to there baddest villain while DC hopes right in to it

I'm honestly shocked. The Martha scene was maybe my least favorite scene in any film ever made, but the way you described it...I don't know, it's like it clicked for me. I still think the film's fundamentally broken largely because of the disconnect from the main characters, but looking at the scene as being more of a "you would rather save someone else's life than your own which makes you a good person and reminds me I'm a good person" rather than a "our mom's have the same name, let's team up!" helps tremendously

It feels like they keep apologizing,just get it right the first time. People didn't like BVS, let's release the ultimate cut, people don't like how dark our films are, let's make them brighter all of a sudden. it gets annoying, just know what you're doing when you do it

DC is not dark, DC is dull. DC fails us to convince that the world is a better place with superheroes, it fails us to convince heroes are good people.

I think we should stop referring to these films as "DC Films". DC Films would imply that the actual company of DC Comics has any significant creative control over what is happening when in truth, it's mainly Warner Bros. taking the DC Licence and rushing to the finish line to cash in on that shared universe money. Yeah, Geoff Johns is on board right now, but he can only salvage so much and you can bet your right arm that the studio is fighting him every step of the way. Now do I think WB is intentionally making bad films? No, but I do think that they have very clearly demonstrated that they simply don't know how to make good films with these characters, and good films like Batman (1989), The Dark Knight trilogy (and Watchmen to a lesser extent) proving to be a greater and greater fluke all the time (not on the part of creative teams of those films, but more the fact that Warner was able to find just the right team and didn't interfere to a great enough degree to ruin it). In order for the DCEU to have any chance of succeeding, they need to start over, form their own separate film branch that is a proper film studio like Marvel has and find a Kevin Feige equivalent that understands both these characters and good filmmaking.

Weak writing. It is their #1 failure.

Batman v Superman's main problem is its last half hour. Once Batman saved Martha Kent, the movie was over. The story had resolved itself. (If they needed a Big Dumb Final Fight afterward, they could've stuck Lex in his classic green and purple suit for a quick go-around, but even that wouldn't be necessary.) Imagine a BVS... 1) Without the Knightmare sequence; 2) Without the e-mail scene; 3) Without Doomsday or the death of Superman; 4) In which Bruce doesn't open Diana's file until right before the credits. There. The main problems are solved. People could still argue that the movie was too dour for them or whatever, but the film would be internally consistent. A Man of Steel 2 or a DCEU solo Batman film wouldn't have been necessary in that case, since it's Superman's death more than anything else that was rushed to its own detriment. Now imagine a direct sequel using the leftover material... 1) That opens with Bruce e-mailing Diana about her (and only her) identity; 2) That features Doomsday as a villain sent by Darkseid, not created by Lex; 3) That follows Bruce as he convinces Diana to become Wonder Woman again; 4) That loosely adapts the Death of Superman storyline over an entire film. We could call that movie Dawn of Justice, and we could still follow it up with Suicide Squad. Perhaps between the releases of BvS and DOJ, we could place in the Wonder Woman prequel. This approach would have delayed the DCEU by one film. Just one film! That's how close we were to a properly-paced cinematic universe.

It's definitly true. Dc was too rush to brought their superhero together in the movie. so it should be like this : - Man of Steel - Batman(introduce harley quinn, the joker and deadshot here) - Batman v Superman (introduce wonder woman) - Wonder Woman (introduce Aquaman here) - The Flash (maybe they could bring captain boomerang, and diablo here) - Justice league ( introduce the cyborg ) - AquaMan (introduce enchantress here) - Cyborg (Introduce Killer Croc here) - Suicide Squad (maybe they could made after credit scene about something happen on the space and introduce Green Lantern) - Green Lantern ( introduce shazam here) - Shazam ( Shazam and Green Lantern work together here and made after credit scene about green lantern and shazam meet justice league to defense this earth from some huge trouble) - Justice League 2 (bring them all together) who's agree with me?

Terrific analysis! The intentions for these movies are good, but the execution is bad. Time and development is what needs to happen.

Well thought out and put together. Good job man couldnt agree more

DC is not rushing. There's only one film in 2019 and 2 in 2020. There's 4 movies before Justice League while Marvel only had 5 and non hardcore fans don't even know incredible hulk is apart of the mcu. So no not rushed.

Martha line will always be dumb. If you have to explain it, then it doesn't work.

Your words at the end really hit the nail on the head. I think most of the "haters" of the DCEU are the TRUE DC fans who want nothing more than for them to succeed and are just disappointed with the product produced. We aren't being haters, we aren't being marvel fanboys. We're DC fans who want DC and WB to do these characters justice. btw: dont let my use of the "true DC fan" make it sound like anyone who likes the DCEU currently as not a true fan, thats not what im saying. just saying that o many times when bringing up a flaw in the films or how i dont like them, I and many others are dismissed as haters or fanboys of the opposing studio when, at least with me, that couldn't be further from the truth. 1) Captain Marvel/Shazam 2) Power Girl 3) Superman 4) Wally West Flash 5) Hal Jordan GL 6) Barry Allen Flash 7) Batman (honestly though, the entire bat family. placing them individually would make my list absurdly long) 8) Zatana 9) Spiderman 10) Wonder Woman That is my top 10 super heroes. I have to go down 9 places to find a marvel hero. And the only reason any appear as high as they do further down the list after 10 is purely because the movies made me like them...spiderman aside, i really dont give a crap about marvel heroes...OK that's overly mean, i like them and respect them and know about them, they just dont interest me as much and the majority of my interest is relatively newly sparked because of the MCU I realize these are just words and I could just be making this up for all you know, but that's my honest to goodness top 10. DC failing is the last thing I want. When I say i dislike a DC movie, its because i legitimately dislike it. Not because I'm being biased in favor of marvel and am slandering DC because i'm a "marvel fanboy". But because I dislike the lack of character development, lack of logical choices, lack of interesting dialogue, bad interpretations of characters, bad motivation for characters, pot devices that make no sense, terrible/lack of romantic chemistry, easter eggs for future movies that feel forced instead of organic, bad pacing, etc. I mean, do you think the people angry at dragonball evolution were people who hated dragon ball? no. it was people who loved DB to death. note, im not saying the DCEU is as bad as DB:E. I'm not that cruel. As much as i dislike most DCEU movies, they are freaking masterpeices that put citizen kane and the godfather to shame compared to DB:E lol. i'm just giving an example to show that people who dislike a movie that has source material very well might be as big/bigger fans of the source material as the ones who like it :)

In the future It'd be cool if the DCEU could make a Earth 2 movie where Thomas Wayne ( Jeffrey Dean Morgan ) could be Batman.

I personally loved Man Of Steel. And then there's the other ones...

The person who thought to hurry and catch up to their rival studio should be fired and never work in the business and movie world again. Even though I am more of a Marvel fan, I do not mind me some of DC goodness and to me the only good DC movies are Michael Keaton's Batman and it's sequel, Christopher Reeve's Superman 1 and 2, Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy isn't bad either and Wonder Woman, they are to me the only good or at least decent DC movies ever created.

The scene when Batman is about to kill Superman and Superman begs him to save Martha that was the only scene with actual character development, Batman realized that Superman is just as human as he is and that he is in Joe Chills position just as you said. I loved that scene from the first time I saw it.

Uuuuuuhm... But, Man of Steel was not met with overall praise though... And, the Martha incident is clear enough to tell the intention, but what completely ruined it I believe, was how abrupt and unnatural it came and felt... Nevermind the fact that, the movie finally got to that moment after an incredibly contrived battle that didn't need to happen... A battle we wanted to see of course, but not based on porn logic...

They're problem is simply story and their representation of characters. They could be as good as Marvel! They could be the Buck Rodgers of Marvel's Flash Gordon!

What are the names of the songs used in this video?

We all understood WHY him saying "SAVE... MARTHA!" made Batman stop trying to kill him; nobody was confused about why that was a thing. It was just stupid. First off, when you're about to die, do you call your mom by her proper name? That's just ooky. I dunno, I was in the theater, and no one there reacted like, "Wow! What a powerful moment!" Everyone seemed like, "What the...? Really? Of all the ways to end this fight, you've got 'Their moms have the same name' as your choice?" It just felt dumb. Sometimes, there IS no way to make something not dumb. Let it go, everyone.

DC has already lost me. BvS was stupid nonsense but enjoyable in an ironic way, SS was pure cancer however. If SS was at least competent then I would give them another chance but they missed the mark so bad I struggle to even call it a movie

I really liked Man of Steel. I thought it was a promising beginning to an interesting updated take on the Superman mythology. Unfortunately, BvS failed to build on that promise. Suicide Squad was a pile of hot garbage.

As a big defender of the DCEU, I definitely agree with a lot of these points (and I'm so refreshed to hear someone give the Martha scene the praise it deserves). As much as I enjoyed most of BvS's pieces (choppy editing, a few bad decisions, and whatever the hell Jesse Eisenberg was doing hinder the whole) it definitely wasn't the next logical step. We should've seen a solo Superman sequel, in which we see a public divided over Superman's status as a hero or a threat. Lex Luthor would be introduced as the leading figure in the anti-Superman camp, someone who is trusted by the people of Metropolis and the world, the kind of guy who will go on CNN and late night talk shows to discuss what happened. We take the time to see Superman develop and explore his humanity. We see the Superman that stops bank robberies and saves cats from trees, but maybe with less gratitude than we're used to seeing. The argument ignites further when some sort of robot comes to pick a fight with the Man of Steel, and despite Clark having no problem defeating him, it asks the question "Does Superman invite more trouble than he prevents?". Clark and Lois follow the trail of breadcrumbs back to Lex, who has continued to advance his off-the-books research to create Metallo. Superman confronts Lex, who makes it clear that any attempt to sully the Luthor name would ruin any shred of trust the public has for Superman, backing Clark into a corner. As Lois works to uncover and report the truth, and Clark manages to defeat Metallo and earn back the trust of the public, Lex decides that he has no choice but to take matters into his own hands, converting his Kryptonite robot research into his famous warsuit and taking the fight to Superman, hoping to slay the dragon he's so certain Superman is. Clark spends most of the fight on the defensive, moving people out of the line of fire and keeping collateral damage to a minimum, but Lex has him on the ropes. As he beats Superman into submission as the world watches on, he's given in to is his own rage and hatred for him. He shouts about how power and respect is to be earned, that Clark had stolen his throne as Metropolis's favorite son. Clark says that he won't get away with killing him, to which Lex replies, "Manslaughter applies to men. All I'm doing is putting down a rabid dog. They'll look at me as the hero you claim to be." Clark chokes out, "They're looking at you now. Do you think they see a hero?" Lex stops to finally see the crowds of people staring on in horror, the ambulances, the firetrucks, the reporters and helicopters, the city that he laid to waste. With his remaining strength, Clark tears out the suit's Kryptonite heart and tosses it aside, and barely manages to speak: "It's time you look to them." Clark passes out as SWAT teams surround Luthor, who sits there helplessly. As they load him into the back of an armored truck, he yells out with a hoarse voice that he made him into a monster, his hatred for the Man of Steel as strong as ever. Lois rushes to Clark's side to find him still alive. Flash forward a month, and we see a bank robbery in progress. Superman swoops in to save the day again without much trouble, and takes a moment for a question from a reporter on the scene. He answers as humbly as ever, as we see from a wall of TVs in a shop window, watched by a young black man in a hoodie with a glowing red eye, and from the television of a man whose arm vibrates through his remote, and from a dark-haired woman, staring up at a jumbotron in a city square, and from a monitor in a dark, vast room, where a rugged man watches from a large chair. "Alfred," he says, "I think it's time we say hello." We cut to black, roll credits, and halfway through we see Lex sitting in an interrogation room. In walks Amanda Waller. "It appears we have a mutual interest," she says, dryly. "I've got sixteen countries with higher bids if you're looking for military contracts, ma'am." "We're not military. We're not anything. We're just looking for some insurance." "Get to the point." "We let you out, you get back to work, you keep your nose clean, and next time you've got something that might solve our alien problem, we take a look." Lex smiles. "Where do I sign?" Ok, so that slowly became a lot more detailed than I intended, but still. We establish this world as one where there are people out there with powers, but it's Superman who inspires them to really do something with them. We start to see aliens trickle in to take advantage of a primitive race fascinated by otherworldly affairs and to check out the last Kryptonian in existence, and with them comes new technologies that fasttrack our own by a good couple of decades at least. The newfound intergalactic attention also catches the interest of folks like Darkseid, Mongul, and Lobo, and predicting that impending the threat are the Guardians, who decide it's about time Earth gets its own Green Lantern. Lex rejoins society, claiming to have been reformed, and dedicates much of his time and resources to finding new means of killing Superman, which would open the door for clones like Bizarro, Superboy, Power Girl, and Match, more robotics research that could open the door for Steel, and the potential for Lex to create or facilitate any number of classic DC monsters. Basically, Lex would be responsible for most of Superman's earthly threats. Superman would inspire most of the big 7 to become heroes and join forces to stop Darkseid (or Starro??) and the Justice League would inspire a world of new heroes who would end up forming a sort of JLU-like network, and coming together to stop Brainiac or the Anti-Monitor. It's all a great big domino effect triggered by one man's selfless commitment to make the world a better place. That's what I would've done anyway. I'm interested to see what direction they go in, and hope that they can forge a DC Universe of hope and color and inspiration in the films to come.

It's interesting that you just can't win with an ultimatum argument for these films with regards to back story films. Comic fans often complain when they get a film that's a back story, yet most of the time they turn out good and provide background on the characters to set up the next film. This video was right in that we can't just assume that ALL Supermans and Batmans are the same cause they aren't. Deadpool, Ironman, Days of Future Past, Batman Begins, & Spider-Man we're all full of backstory yet good films. DC can just skip to full of team films but they still have to be good.

DC shouldn't take all the blame because the ones who are most at fault are those who work at Warner Bros. Plus I'm pretty sure DC would definitely put good content out there that's not rushed and the reason for that is that DC doesn't have any say so when making the movies because the directors/writers answer to WB and not taking any advice from comic book writers like Geoff Johns.

Please save us from fanatical fanboys who know nothing but their own opinion. DC has good material. They just need to get studio execs out. Marvel gets to work independently. They have made many quality movies. DC can too. Too put down Marvel movies and success because they got their first is childish

What's the song at the end, please ?

"And while some fans will adamantly defend..." Wow...you gotta be a really big fan of these characters to defend these films... Seriously? Is there any real defense or is it just some nerds on a message board somewhere that don't want to admit that a film their fave character is in sucks??

In 2019 DC found it’s footing and made 3 good movies Wonder Woman and SHAZAM and Aquaman

It's DCEU. Probably just a mistake.

Another problem (and i know it sounds ludicrous), is that i think DC had already used up it's magic in the DCAU in the days of Batman TAS, Batman Beyond, JLU etc. Even newer animated movies are struggling to match up to titles Mask Of The Phantasm, Return Of The Joker and other material from the days when people like Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill were in their prime

Cinematic Universe Checklist: 1. Hold a press conference with a “Price is Right” type crowd that will go crazy at the announcement of a lineup of upcoming movies completed long after their lifetime. 2. Encourage overpaid, glorified actors to self promote for a role through Social Media and gossip sites. 3. Court prestigious directors to give credibility to the cinematic universe only to fire them once they become insubordinate to studio executives. 4. In an effort to capitalize with the current cinematic universe bubble, hastily settle for mediocre, up-and-coming directors to produce the film and then have equally mediocre studio executives push them out and re-shoot 99% of the film. 5. Hijack a social/political cause as a marketing gimmick and unleash its fanatical base to condemn any one that voices their objective opinions towards the cinematic universe.

Says there's no development or motivation for characters but goes on to describe how Supes n Batman developed...

If JL falls through, just make the DC universe based in the CW universe. Come on DC. Do it.

What's the music at the end of the video?

Scott,Remember you asked us what if we could create a weapon in the weapon plus program.I would create a spiderman clone who is more aggresive and has super healing factor (whatever that is).A black and gold costume with a golden razor knife will suit him.

so the best detective in the world didn't know that superman had human perents or was tied to humanity? I mean Lois finds out in what, a week in man of steel, and batman with all his tech doesn't? If Sherlock was batman he would just look at him and find out everything about Supes.

Ending on a shot of Wonder Woman...very ominous...

DC's fundamental problem with their movies is there characters. It's almost like WB is ashamed of what they are, or afraid that audiences won't accept them as they are. If Captain America, Thor, and Guardians can work on screen, anyone can. That would be the first thing i'd tell WB, it's ok to modernize and change a few aspects of your properties, but at the end of the day, you have to be able to take them to a comic fan, not Snyder, who can verify that this is the real deal. Hell, Feige said so himself, if you can't please the die-hards, how can you expect to please everyone else? Next, WB needs a genuine plan, something to build towards. With Marvel, you can see what they were doing. {Phase 1: Assemble the Avengers. Phase 2: Further develop the characters, set up some new ones, and build to Infinity War. Phase 3: Develop the characters, introduce new ones, finish the stage, and bring on the Infinity War. DC needs to have that, because it's been three movies, and i've yet to feel like this is a universe that's going anywhere.

I'm hoping that the current films' sucess will show they need to set up each character and let them have their time before mixing everything together. The second Suicide Squad being the exception since the lower tier villains don't need to have movies focusing on them one on one. If anything a team of villains getting the focus of the whole movie works great. Something the original messed up by having time focused more on characters separate from this story.

I think have an alternative ending for Batman V Superman that I think would solve a lot of the issues people have with it. Imagine instead that when Bruce is standing over Clark about to kill him, he instead chooses to throw the spear away after scratching his face. And then he gives the speech from the Dark Knight returns, the ' I wanted you to know you could be beaten speech'. And it turns out he never really planned to kill him, he just wanted the most powerful person on the planet that he could still be beaten by a human. Not only would this solidify the connection between the Batman of the film and the comic and Tv versions but it would give better closure to supermans arc that he isn't invincible, he isn't totally superman, he can make mistakes and be beaten but he can still be the hero. Obviously some changes should be made like the setup to the fight and batman's killing earlier but I think this ending would have been better personally

I get your point on why Batman didn't want Superman's mother to die because he didn't want that to happen again, but still... Batman doesn't know Superman, for him, he's a villain, a superpowerfull alien who killed millions of people in Man of Steel, why would he have sympathy?! If it was the Joker, would you really think he would be like "Yeah sure homie imma save yo mum and we'll be good pals" of course not! That's one of the things that I didn't like about bvs!!! But still... I'm not into that Marvel vs DC shit and I'm still having a little bit of hope for the next DC movies :)

biggest problem with Batman vs Superman was it jammed 2 classic stories with a new story and didn't do any justice to any of them. I so wanted the Batman return story closer to the graphic novel and if done right I'm sure it would been a major hit. Doomsday look subpar and Lex should been used as instigator to Bruce, really messy narrative C-.

Sadly we live in a world were General Audiences need to be spoon fed what's going on. The idea of letting everyone have unique interpretations is foreign to your average movie goer. BVS ain't perfect but it's better than most of the blockbuster movies in theaters these days.

I'm a DC comics fan above all, and even I am not so delusional as to pretend that these DC films aren't absolute garbage.

Best video ever made in this channel

You are an amazing youtuber and I can tell that you have respect for the DCEU as well as the MCU. I loved this video and you have a very nice voice, Well Done!

Fantastic video mate. Keep up the great work.

Marvel feels like it is made by fans for fans but DC feels like it's made by people who don't care or the people that do care and want to make a movie for fans is getting pushed aside. DC also doesn't take any risk like Marvel is starting to do.

Wow. Nerdsync turned into Nerdwriter1 for a sec. Cool video essay. It hit on a lot of strong points and really made the plot seem like it had potential.

WB needs to sit down and re think their strategy, these things take time, Kevin Feige didn't make the MCU in one day and I'm not talking about the 4 years and 5 movies that were before Avengers, he wanted to do this way back in 2000 with X-Men, then a cameo of Wolverine in Spider-man and so on but nobody cared, now he can do whatever he wants. Meanwhile WB throw us movies just because like GCS, Deadshot, Black Adam, and so on while their main ones are suffering

Awesome vid. I beleive you hit it right in the spot. They need to make us relate, engage, admire the characters. At the end to beleive in them. This may be debatable, but I also beleive better selection in artist would be great.

Writing this before seeing all of the video: This is what I have been saying for the past two years. Man of Steel, while not for me, was kinda good, and we should have gotten a sequel to that movie to expand on it. Insted, DC decided to play catchup by smashing 4 movie plots into one movie (the after-math of MoS, the sequel to the (yet to be made) batman movie, the death of superman, and the BvS movie). As a result, the movie feels rushed. Suicide Squde was a step in the right derection (to the point that I liked it), it still had pacing issues. Another issue for me is that for being a big cinematic universe, it feels very small. Instead of having all these movies that show us different super heroes/villains over time, we have team up movies that throw names at us like we are suppose to know who they are. We learned who Ironman was, who Captain Amarica was, who Thor was, who Hulk was, and then we had a team-up and made it look like a big world. Meanwhile, over at DC, we learn about Superman, and then we throw in Batman, Wonder Woman, Lex Luthor, Doomsday, Cybog, Aquaman, and Flash into the mix and explain them all over time in separate movies and hope that everyone knows everything already. This makes me think that everything happens in one city. This not to say that the stories ain't good. They are, but the rushing makes them have less of a punch. I just want Wonder Woman and Justice League to take their time.

Man Of Steel was pretty good, I don't get the hate

What is the outro music?

DCU is an example of a series of good ideas executed poorly. It is like someone made a bunch of films from die-hard fan fiction.

Batfleck is da besht!

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I'd say Clark's reasoning for saving people is mentioned in MoS in that scene with his dad. He also talks about it with Lois in the graveyard about when his dad died.

Also I think doing death of superman in the second movie was not the wisest choice either, nor dark knight returns batman. Those are stories in comics that had to be built to, while it is not perfect, you can watch the movies of the MCU as reading a series of comics on the big screen. The DCEU feels like an argument between DC fans over coffee or beers. Honestly I am torn between scrapping it, or rather going on side characters instead of the big three to build up better then the current route. The thing is they had BVS in the animated universe years ago and it was a better iteration too...sorry for being a bit all over the place, coffee hasn't hit yet.

I feel like that there is always someone making a "The problem with DC movies" And they all say the same thing lol.

SS is garbage but MoS is one of the best CB movies ever and BvS UC is damn good

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Fantastic video. You really break it down well.

All three DCEU movies are total garbage and I hate them because I love DC comic books. BvS is a dreadful represantation of all of these great comic book characters, especially Superman, who in comics is the most human and gentle superhero, but in the movies is a sobbing, grim hypocrite. Comic book Batman is ingenious detective, dark but heroic, a man who changed his grieve to will to help people. In the movie he's sobbing, grim hypocrite. Pros for mentioning Morrison's Batman, it's a masterpiece.

DCEU is sucks but their DC Rebirth is brilliant at the other hands MCU is brilliant but their Marvel Now 2.0 is sucks

Zack Snyder's Justice League: Hold my beer!

I still feel like I have not really seen a live action Batman/Superman movie because Cavil's character seemed so far removed it didn't seem like I was watching Superman at all.

solution no 1 banish Zack Snyder to the Phantom zone.

They aren't rushing it at all. They took 3 years to do BVS and even delayed it. Also, think about marvel vs DC. Avengers took 4 years to make after Iron Man. Justice League took 4 years to make after Man of Steel. Iron Man 2 is kinda the BvS of the MCU. It's also an Avengers prequel instead of a full on Iron Man movie. And before you comment that I'm a DC fanboy, I'm not. I know I'm gonna get so much hate for this anyways but whatever. I LOVED Man of Steel. BvS was good, but has a lot of flaws, the ultimate edition was better. Suicide Squad was fun but I don't "like" it. I didn't like the extended cut either. It added a lot of stuff we didn't need and the potential was ruined. I also love most of the MCU films besides Iron Man 2 and Thor The Dark World. So I'm just putting my opinion out there. I may be wrong but please don't be a dick about it if you correct me

As anxious as I am to see these DCEU movies, I agree with you that it has been a big rush job so far, and what you presented makes lots of sense. Thanks for sharing.

i admit i'm a huge fan of dceu approach to their movies unlike the other one ... the problem really is the studio are not given the directors freedom to do their jobs they meddle into their projects thereby destroying the end products

MCU > DCEU