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DCS: Mig-29 Fulcrum 2 Round BVR engagement 1v1 PvP 

Growling Sidewinder
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This is a video of me and Xoho practicing some BVR fighting in the mig-29s, armed with R27er,et, R77, and R73s. 2 round fight and as always we head over to the tacview to analyze and learn from mistakes. Hope you enjoy the video.

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@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
I'm by no means an expert in the mig29 or Russian BVR doctrine, if you are an expert fulcrum or flanker pilot feel free to share your knowledge about how you would have approached this fight. Id love to Learn a thing or two from guys with more time behind the Russian birds. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed the video.
@axesandros
@axesandros 5 лет назад
I do not know much about Mig tactics but, it is not better to take full speed, I guess above Mach 1.5, to give your missile energy advantage on the first shot?. Congrats to you, very nice work by the way.
@MrMihailo82
@MrMihailo82 5 лет назад
You should scan up with radar. Use PPS (HI) in head to head engagement.
@lol2315189
@lol2315189 5 лет назад
You and hellreign are my favourite DCS youtubers! no cheap talks, full action-packed and great analysis! Keep up the good work!
@lol2315189
@lol2315189 5 лет назад
And one more thing, no copy&paste an entire stream video thats last 3-4 hrs! Hell I dont even understand why would people post those shitty stream videos and expect viewers to watch them.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
thanks a lot man, means a lot to me, and ya I never really understood the 3-4h stream concept no one is gonna sit there for 3-4 hours and watch it, and its like 90% dry too. I duno. but no worries you wont be seeing any of that here.
@alwayslevitated9089
@alwayslevitated9089 4 года назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder Exactly... Reality TV Streams..!! Where is the unique talent and skill set...!? Aimless Flight..!! Go Hard or Go Home...!! PERIODT...!! ✋
@tjc1060
@tjc1060 5 лет назад
I'm shocked he survived a Fox 3 at 3 nm. Great flying all around
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
me aswell. I dumped those on him, thinking I could kill him along with me since I knew I was dead. that was a great little move on his part.
@jeffreywaller1971
@jeffreywaller1971 5 лет назад
I don't fly in this sim, but I watch every video. keep it up!
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
I appreciate you mate, thanks for your support. glad ur enjoying the content.
@jeffreywaller1971
@jeffreywaller1971 5 лет назад
I do know this, but I would have to fly keyboard and mouse! and I want the full experience so im waiting till im not broke from xmas haha @Southern Fun
@jeffreywaller1971
@jeffreywaller1971 5 лет назад
im having trouble getting full screen, and it seems my cursor is like 3 inches to the left of what it actually is, idk im having video problems. 144hz msi monitor. @Southern Fun
@p9nt6gr6m4
@p9nt6gr6m4 4 года назад
3:03 bruh moment
@joydas3074
@joydas3074 4 года назад
In India the whole setup for DC's gaming costs about 300000 rupees approx 5000 dollar. One day I will buy it definitely and like to fight with you sidewinder. By the way nice fight ♥️
@xanvavy
@xanvavy 5 лет назад
amazing 👏 I hope once my PC arrives and I start training I be able to play like you brother 😊👍
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
thanks man, join the discord too u can get lots of help in there
@charles_wipman
@charles_wipman 5 лет назад
Very good fights; it's very interesting see how the russian planes, radars and missiles perform.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
agreed, I still have lots to learn to use them to their max potential tho, but ya theyre interesting for sure.
@seafox8748
@seafox8748 4 года назад
@UCh2rDh7vXGeoh1LlzL3QEwg, you had skilled opponent. In the first encounter, that R-27ET was for sure released without IR lock. That is why he was able to shoot with it at such distance. It was shot blind with hope it will pick the lock on the way once it gets closer. Which it did as can be seen in TW. There is a key bind for launch authorization override, which allows you fire anything anytime, even without proper fire solution.
@FloorItDuh
@FloorItDuh 5 лет назад
On that first fight that was a good call forcing him to go defensive first allowing you to control the fight and get in closer so your ordinance would be more effective. I think that would have been a much different fight if he got the fire solution on you first. Goes to show how valuable first look first shoot capabilities are in a BVR fight.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
absolutely, sometimes you have to waste that first missile to force him defensive, but again, a skilled pilot will know the range is too long and easily defeat it with a simple crank as you saw xoho do here, and maintain his cool, if you fire your first missile at long range and he instantly dives for the deck, you know you have an inexperienced guy on ur hands and you can go in for that kill. its really cool man, its like a big chess game.
@FloorItDuh
@FloorItDuh 5 лет назад
It's why I like this stuff. It's the technicalities behind everything that's going on.
@overtoast1105
@overtoast1105 5 лет назад
Someone else asked about the effects of gravity vs thin air on a missile's energy, and I kinda wanna know too!
@shapiro5000
@shapiro5000 5 лет назад
Nice video! I know the MiG-29 can be deadly in dogfighting but interesting to see it being used in BVR.. It's radar is kind of meh compared to the Flanker/Eagle tho.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
thanks man, ya the mig radar is no match for the eagle, I duno about the flanker tho (i don't know too much about it) but i'm sure its weaker. can't wait to pitch it against the f14 lol
@shapiro5000
@shapiro5000 5 лет назад
Growling Sidewinder you should try the Flanker.. I think you’d like it.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
I plan to expand into it once I get the mig down decent.
@shapiro5000
@shapiro5000 5 лет назад
Growling Sidewinder good news it’s similar enough.. I find it has better control at low speeds and it’s radar is great. J-11 even has the R-77 but the regular flanker just has fox 1 and 2’s.
@grantfreedom81
@grantfreedom81 5 лет назад
Nice job, quality video. Thanks
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
thank you man, glad you liked it.
@isaaccoote2874
@isaaccoote2874 4 года назад
Xoho brought the tricks in round two. Out for revenge with class.
@traffictraffic
@traffictraffic 5 лет назад
man i'd hate to meet you guys in an online session
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
ahah youd be fine mate, dont u worry. you'd probably kill me for sure, I can't speak for xoho hes actually very decent.
@xoho6251
@xoho6251 5 лет назад
I'm just trying to learn. Plenty of people much, much more skilled than I. Only one way to find out though, and that's to give it a shot.
@PC_CERTIFIED
@PC_CERTIFIED 5 лет назад
I would be the smart ass in the a10 going head to head
@xoho6251
@xoho6251 5 лет назад
@@PC_CERTIFIED If you can force a merge, the A-10 is nothing to laugh about. That gun is amazing.
@PC_CERTIFIED
@PC_CERTIFIED 5 лет назад
@@xoho6251 one thing I did forget is how well that damn thing turns the Hornet would be screwed in a turning fight but vertical forget about it I'm screwed
@thanhnguyen-xi8fq
@thanhnguyen-xi8fq 5 лет назад
You seem to always talk about the effect of thin and thick air to defeat a missile...but what about gravity? If you climb up and the missile has to climb up with you, what is the threshold of thin air vs gravity in term of missile energy?
@sule.A
@sule.A 4 года назад
Missiles climb to 60,000ft anyway Then drop back down so no it will not work
@itsmebatman
@itsmebatman 5 лет назад
You really need to make the effort and put the gimbal in the center of the crosshair when firing these missiles. Otherwise you are wasting plenty of their energy every time. They only have a few seconds of burn. It really makes a big difference if they can accelerate in a straight line or if they have to turn while accelerating.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
yup mentioned that in the video. thanks tho
@itsmebatman
@itsmebatman 5 лет назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder Oh I didn't notice as I watched without sound. But yeah, you'd be shocked how much larger your engagement range gets if you use the missiles correctly. Also I would consider trying to crank the other way. When he cranked right in the first clip you cranked left. You had fired your Fox1 and he had not. That means if he decides to try and lock you he can do so by slowly turning away from your missile. If you cranked the other way he would have had to keep turning into your missile if he wanted to lock you. That would have made your missile much more dangerous for him.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
you make a solid point about dragging him back into my missile, I just crank the same way cuz Its easier to keep him in my gimble limits for my follow up shot but ya ur right the opposite way serves a better purpose. thanks for your tip.
@cool_cat007smoove3
@cool_cat007smoove3 5 лет назад
itsmebatman True
@jontharpe1275
@jontharpe1275 5 лет назад
i really enjoy your videos. is your set up pretty expensive? also what you recommend for playing this game? sticks, throttle, pedals, eye tracking...was wondering if you had personal preference
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
thanks man, yes my set up is very expensive lol, but u dont need to go as crazy as I did, really anything decent with like a 1070 graphics card and 16gigs RAM can run DCS, here are links to all my products. (copied from one of my newer videos) Amazon Links for the products I use if you're interested: _________________________________________________________ Link for Thrustmaster 16000M: amzn.to/2PQGYf2 Link for Trackir 5: amzn.to/2VSN4kt Link for Warthog throttle/stick: amzn.to/2Vbfhyp
@timmunroe4873
@timmunroe4873 5 лет назад
Hey there sidewinder once again a great vid on the mig29! Keep it up not many do these type of vid's on the mig29. Well here's my 2cent's, I Find head on in the 29, when launched on at range by say a R27 or the R77 you needn't turn or beam them. You can often just preform an exaggerated barrel roll to bleed them off quick maybe do it a couple times if your going high subsonic the better! In this way you are able to maintain a nose on attitude to target to close in quick and if he F poles he will give up his six! Oh of course don't forget counter measures in the roll if the bandit is closer in at launch of his missile! But at range the R27 can be duped just with the roll and or rolls! Now just like always there is no fail safe way of defeating missiles, but it does seem to work for me even done it with sams once in a while! Thanks again Hoss good work!
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
hey tim thanks so much man, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for your tip. i'll be sure to keep that in mind for my next fight.
@adchirnabil2105
@adchirnabil2105 Год назад
new best dcs
@Iginihechanska
@Iginihechanska 5 лет назад
BVR?? Good fight, enjoyed it.
@ramincybran
@ramincybran 5 лет назад
great fight
@voidwalker9223
@voidwalker9223 5 лет назад
Hey man you should do some videos of like full scripted or planned out missions. I know you did some in past but maybe do like a new one with the f18 or another module. Maybe like a strike mission taking off from a carrier and attack a convoy or ship with the agm65s
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
its a great idea man, I been srsly thinking about it for a while now its just that theyre hard to set up but I can certainly try one in the near future. thanks for the suggestion.
@voidwalker9223
@voidwalker9223 5 лет назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder I agree, especislly DCS ai at times doesnt always go as planned. No rush, it takes time. When the harms and gbu's and other weapons come out you should defenitly do a small maybe 3 part series. Especially with the f14. Maybe do a scenario where Iran does a surprise attack on a carrier group on the gulf map and show the experience of 2 pilots 1 f18 and 1 f14. If you ever need help setting a scenario up feel free to message me.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
mick 92 I wouldn't mind some help mate can u contact me via discord?
@voidwalker9223
@voidwalker9223 5 лет назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder yes I havent been on in a while but with winter and slow work I will have a lot of time!
@macmusica
@macmusica 3 года назад
Notice how the Mirrors are actually USEFUL a year ago. Now they sabotaged them!
@TonyRios
@TonyRios 5 лет назад
At least he learned something the second time.
@IAP_mkt
@IAP_mkt 4 года назад
Question: is it possible to turn off your engines midflight in order to avoid a fox2? given that you're at high altitude and have enough time to restart them
@panchero9758
@panchero9758 3 года назад
you could but you will be losing your energy so flares are your best friend against any fox 2
@elijahglasser1421
@elijahglasser1421 3 года назад
Yeah this is so cool
@Harimaru1337
@Harimaru1337 5 лет назад
''Ok he is over there'' Stopped the video, still cant find him. Damn :))
@spriixxx
@spriixxx 5 лет назад
RU-vid doesn't help about that cuz it compresses the video format :(
@thebrain7441
@thebrain7441 5 лет назад
Where did you hear that the new missile update would not fix the drag coefficients? I’m certainly hoping that, that is not true. The R-77 for example in reality PROBABLY has better range than the AMRAAM. In game you can’t shoot outside of 10 miles of you want a kill.
@akisakis7980
@akisakis7980 5 лет назад
Just use your fist and the radar will show the enemy
@Appppy
@Appppy 2 года назад
Speaking of R-77, isnt it just like aim-54? In the sense, you have to maintain lock till it goes full active?
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 3 года назад
Fun!
@JG10rBull
@JG10rBull 5 лет назад
Nice man, I want to fight you in my F18 ;) also i didn't know the 77 was a Fox3
@mikeseabrooks7978
@mikeseabrooks7978 4 года назад
What is your opinion on the Mig-19? Is it a good Aircraft?
@ernestcarolina5889
@ernestcarolina5889 4 года назад
I have DCS. Is this review software included in the sim, or a DLC?
@cool_cat007smoove3
@cool_cat007smoove3 5 лет назад
I see that you get a guy in defensive position and then go into a defensive position. Why? If you keep your 35* missile lock angle in a F pole position, when the missile gets close to you by 5knm get into your corner speed and fly into the missile’s envelope. The ET is the kill shot in EOS mode or IR radar mode. The ER’s are to keep him on defensive, You must stay in control of the engagement and not be all over the place. Maintaining your ER lock is the key in knowing your target’s position, by doing so you will be able determine if you should go high or low to get the ET kill in EOS or IR radar mode. The max effectiveness of the ER is about 23knm and the ET effectiveness is about 12knm.
@jake4194
@jake4194 2 года назад
Im pretty sure he knows what he's doing lol
@xAeroSpaceKnightx
@xAeroSpaceKnightx 5 лет назад
Do Fox 3's missiles exist where you can delay radar activation for a period or distance? Kind of weird thought but I could see a couple strange situations it could be useful in extended BVR conflict perhaps.
@xoho6251
@xoho6251 5 лет назад
Yes! The AIM-54, AIM-120, and R-77 all have that capability. I'm unsure of the R-77 and AIM-54, but the AIM-120s in DCS go pitbull (med prf, active) at ~8nm when supported with TWS (track while scan). In this case I wasn't very familiar with the Mig's radar, so I played it safe and used STT (Single target track) rather than TWS (track while scan), which lets him know I'm locked, and gives immediate missile launch warnings. The reason I did this was that it's easier to locate the other guy, easier to use, and it gives me the option of firing the R-27ER as needed. Edit: In Growling Sidewinder's Mig29 vs an F-14's Aim-54 video (where I die), the only reason I broke so quickly was because I was able to spot it visually by eyeballing his contrail and looking for the separation. I didn't get a launch/lock warning until the very end.
@xAeroSpaceKnightx
@xAeroSpaceKnightx 5 лет назад
@@xoho6251 I understand that the 120s need tracking up to the threshold point but if you blind fired it without a target does it just goes pitbull from the get go although it can't track unless its within its radar range and the target happens to be in its vision or am I wrong? My original question was more in a BVR (50+mi) initial situation can I set the 54 or 77 to remain radar silent after firing it and for a set period of time/distance then activate guidance. To an enemy you would hear the radar tone, then warning right when you fire (which may prompt a maneuver), then just radar (assuming you're still bore on) and he would see the smoke trail eventually but while the missile is "silent" he might think its just IR or a dead F1F3 since there is no missile warning. Might seem like a dumb scenario but (ignoring IRL stuff) you could "trap" the enemy by firing two or three on each side of him/her without them realizing its actually radar guided coming after them.
@MNanme1z4xs
@MNanme1z4xs 5 лет назад
Does Mig29 need 2 engines? I think for its size, single engine is enough.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
gonna have to take that up with Mikoyan mate
@alexnickolaev
@alexnickolaev 4 года назад
2 engines increases survivability and works better with its frame. Also it peaks at 8800 kn of thrust for each engine. There was no engine small enough to fit the frame and match the thrust of 17400 kn in the 70-s
@reshadamiry8639
@reshadamiry8639 4 года назад
what you use to look around inside the cockpit. whenever i use my mouse to look around i lose control of the plane. because i am right handed i use the mouse and also the joystick to control the plane with my right hand.
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 4 года назад
i use trackir
@moshoyoko2480
@moshoyoko2480 5 лет назад
Nice fight there mate, really refreshing my game, do you guys have your own server? or if not where/when do you play? :)
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
thanks buddy, I host the fights on my own computer. i play whenever I have time I just post in my discord to see if anyone is interested in flying the scenario i'm planning, and usually a couple guys volunteer
@moshoyoko2480
@moshoyoko2480 5 лет назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder Ah nice, anyone can volunteer? I might be interested one day.. :D
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
sure man, if u join the discord just let me know its you from youtube, id be happy to fly with you, it would be my pleasure.
@moshoyoko2480
@moshoyoko2480 5 лет назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder I actually already joined when I gave you that mission file to try out :)
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
power5530. yes I remember you now. lol sorry mate my memory is garbage. i'll remember it now tho, but ya hit me up sometime if you want to fly i'm sure we can set something up.
@blackdeath4eternity
@blackdeath4eternity 5 лет назад
@ 1:44 "request bogie dope" request denied, no pot till your on the ground.
@kjwong4730
@kjwong4730 5 лет назад
I want to fly the MiG 29 so bad
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
shes a beaut man. one of my fav planes, my only complaint is how fast she burns fuel. but to be fair it hauls ass. fantastic interceptor.
@pavlenikic9712
@pavlenikic9712 4 года назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder then the Mig29SMT is for you. granted, not in game and a modern version of the plane, but it has a big hump on the back with a lot more fuel.
@sule.A
@sule.A 4 года назад
@@pavlenikic9712 mig 21 smt the true humpbackwhale
@dexter8819
@dexter8819 5 лет назад
Set prf to hi. Awacs told you hot bandit
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
ya ur right i totally forgot to do that. good catch.
@gregkar2736
@gregkar2736 4 года назад
i am no expert AT ALL, but this thing flies like shit... you need to constantly fight with the stick, loses energy like anything else i have flown, and it's the hardest to land
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 4 года назад
Gotta trim her out.
@GentiluomoStraniero
@GentiluomoStraniero 3 года назад
Hey GS, I have a request. F4 vs...
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 3 года назад
No f4s in the sim at this time buddy sorry
@GentiluomoStraniero
@GentiluomoStraniero 3 года назад
@@GrowlingSidewinder I also wish they had experimental planes like the F15 ACTIVE, F18 HARV and F16 VISTA. I'd like to see you kick some teeth in with those. :D
@marcosvonsydow6772
@marcosvonsydow6772 5 лет назад
Question how do i make the russian plane and awacs speak to me in English I cant learn anymore russian
@GrowlingSidewinder
@GrowlingSidewinder 5 лет назад
if I remember correctly, I changed the language somewhere in the settings something like "native language" I turned to English instead of default.
@inconstancyvex3629
@inconstancyvex3629 5 лет назад
Is that a custom skin?
@AlpineWarren
@AlpineWarren 4 года назад
I struggle so much with the Radar on the Mig 29!
@devilsoffspring5519
@devilsoffspring5519 4 года назад
That's 'cause it's pretty bad :) The 29's flight performance is awesome though!
@phouvanvihaphat6096
@phouvanvihaphat6096 5 лет назад
Se que tuve hijos con Valeria Mazda el mayor es el messi
@PSsquadron
@PSsquadron 5 лет назад
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@khalifahas2373
@khalifahas2373 4 года назад
Bar bar..amerika debar debar..haha..., islam Russia with islam polandia + islam mesir 'N islam timur tengah..apa yg akan terjade..! Apakah angkatan darat amerika beserta komplotan perang nasrani Budha hindu dan sesat lain nya masih berani menyelinap di gedung Johor ? Turun hujan langsung Di gempur jet wak..kita usakan nuklir menghantam mereka tidak di provinsi sumut da haha...berarti jet duluan bermain.
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