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Regarding it being intuitive, personally, I would think the raptor should draw 2 for a similar reason. Obviously not how the rules work right now, but flavorwise, it feels like the raptor does something when it gets hit and it functionally got hit twice.

This was my question! Thank you so much! It comes from the true stories collection. At the GRN prerelease, I controlled Dawn of Hope and I attacked with three 1/1 lifelink tokens. The judge ruled that I should only get one trigger! Thankfully it didn’t end up mattering, and after the game I showed the judge the Gatherer ruling on the card.

3 different pronunciations of "Jitte" within a minute and I still don't know which is right!

Ugh, I knew the answer for each situation, but I had never thought about how these rules don't really "line up" with each other. A great reminder why Magic rules feel so dense and non-intuitive to new players!

If I had to choose, I'd choose the lifelink changing. It's unintuitive for somebody with a basic to intermediate knowledge of the rules. The fact that it has a specific rule that grants it this exception is my evidence for that statement.

I think if the rules were to be adjusted so that the two scenarios were not to be different, that it should be the scenario with the Dinosaur that changes, and for the same reason that Thune does it twice: "Each time a *source* deals damage" is a more intuitive way to think about damage. Yes, all the damage is happening at the same time, but that doesn't change that it's all coming from different sources. The Dino is taking two lots of 3 damage, from two different sources, as part of the same 'deal combat damage' game action, with no player getting priority between them - it is one game action responsible for all the damage happening, but it is still two sources, so it makes more intuitive sense to suggest damage is happening to it 'twice'. The game has no trouble with multiple things happening simultaneously, since any triggers they trigger will simply go on the stack based on the stack ordering rules already existent.

Dave thank you for your videos. Your channel should definitely have more followers!

Both should only be one instance imo because its all happening at the same time. Raptor is a whenever as is the lifegain dude. If it was when a source causes you to gain life it would make sense to have two triggers but since it specifies timing without a source it should just be one

All of the enraged cards being "whenever a source deals damage to it" instead of "whenever it takes damage" would make more sense flavor wise in mu opinion, and you would get to draw 2 cards

That vampire reminds me that we need a whole episode to just wayta, prodigy trainer. What is a "cause"?

Got it right immediately but had the same "Hmmmm, wait a second" moment when I realized how similar these situations are but how different the outcomes are. I'm not sure if anything needs to be changed, but if forced to pick, I'd nerf lifegain triggers on lifelink, those interactions are already strong enough lol

as a supporting rule, there's also > 702.15e If multiple sources with lifelink deal damage at the same time, they cause separate life gain events (see rules 119.9-10). as a Karlov player, I think the status quo is fine. :D

I'm with you. Having things happen per source is fine and having things happen at once is fine (my guess was it was all going to be the latter when I started the video), but having life gain work differently from damage reeks of legacy issues (that's “legacy” in the programming sense, not the Magic sense). Of course, legacy issues are real, so maybe that's fine. Though if they got rid of combat damage on the stack, maybe they can fix this.

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat I lean towards "Both should trigger twice" but clearly this video has taught me that I understand nothing about Magic's rules, I really felt like I should've gotten this one 😅

I like pronunciation “jit” because of the double consonant, but considering it’s from a more Asian inspired set and art, being a sai, I like “jeetay” as well.

I would change the Lifelink part of the ruling. It relies on a semantic difference between event and source.

I would intuitively have assumed the Ripjaw Raptor also triggers twice because it was dealt damage by 2 different creatures, similar to how Raptor being dealt damage by two different Lightning Bolts would trigger it twice. That seems like the best way to handle it if you´re going to change it.

If it was "Whenever Ripjaw Raptor becomes blocked" it'd be two draws. It became blocked twice but was only dealt damage once. If it was subject to the same as the life gain trigger clarification, it'd be two draws, because it'd be treated as though it said "Whenever a source deals damage to Ripjaw Raptor" and that would be two draws. So I think that's the rule that should be changed, to make it more consistent with the other triggers.

I would have gotten all of these wrong

I didn't know the "whenever a player gains life" rule. I'm still a magic padawan I guess.

If I have zur, eternal schemer, assault suit and lunar force on the battlefield, I equip assault suit on lunar force, what happens, do I counter every opponents spells because lunar force won’t be sacrificed ? Thanks in advance

I'm going to regret asking, but how does the vampire change if the creatures have banding.

I have a question. My opponent plays a grafdigers cage. I ask "It only stops casting and entering from graveyard right?" He says "Yes". In his end step i play a chord of calling and he says that the creature can't enter. What will be the rulling of a judge. I had this situation but luckily reminded myself that the creature can't enter. And didn't play the chord

What about a rakdos charm and pariah on the raptor?

I'd say the rule should be changed to follow the Ripjaw Raptor example. Since combat damage all takes place simultaneously, it makes sense to me that enrage only triggers once. As there is only one "instant" when the raptor is taking damage even if it's from multiple sources. It should work the same way for lifegain in my opinion; although you may gain life from multiple sources of lifelink, because it's all simultaneous, it should only count as one instance of gaining life.

I have a question I just thought of, just in case this scenario should ever occur: Let's say Amy casts Emrakul, the World Anew, taking control of all of Nick's creatures. Then, on Nick's next turn, he plays Metamorphic Alteration on any of those creatures, turning it into a copy of Emrakul, the World Anew. This will cause there to temporarily be two Emrakuls on Amy's field at once. So, the Legend rule should cause one of them to be sent to the graveyard. However, Emrakul, the World Anew has protection from permanents that were cast that turn, which should cause the Metamorphic Alteration to immedately fall off, and then that creature will no longer be a copy of Emrakul. Does the Legend rule still cause one of the Emrakuls to be sent to the graveyard (and subsequently force Amy to sacrifice all of her creatures)? I'm thinking this'll still happen, due to both state-based actions occurring simultaneously, but I'd like to have full confirmation on this.

Both things seems reasonable, specially considering the flavor part of "enrage" mechanic. They could introduce different levels of rage but that would be different mechanic then. I think it kinda gets weird (at least from "common sense" view) when we introduce trample to the lifelinker. I would expect that to cause the Angel to trigger twice since you need to do damage to two objects.

the raptor should be drawing 2 cards because 2 creatures damaged it,.. that is what i thought,. with regards to the Jitte, does that mean a double strike trample creature could deal damage with the initial strike, the trample from that initail strike, and then again with the double strike putting 6 counters on the Jitte?

Personally, id prefer if only 2 triggers from archangel occured. its just the most intuitive conclusion based on knowing damage happens at the same time

I feel like the lifelink thing should be a single instance, because, well, it's a deliberate, specific, hidden exception, where the words on the card don't actually say what they mean. If they want 'whenever you gain life' to mean 'whenever a source causes you to gain life', then they should have other things, that also don't talk about sources, to trigger multiple times from multiple sources, which would obviously hugely warp the game and obviously is not something they can do. It might have been instated for backwards-compatibility, but as a player who was not even playing Magic during the time when lifelink was a triggered ability, it feels like a random inexplicable exception to the way that combat damage and its connected effects work in every other case.

I feel like ripjaw raptor should draw you two cards in that case, since it was dealt damage from two different things

I honestly would have thought both triggered twice, because I consider each source separately. It is annoying that they are different and I think Wizards should change that

Why can't they template "whenever you gain life" as "whenever you gain life from a source" and avoid the special rule? As written on the card, the life gain rule doesn't make sense

I think ripjaw raptor should be dealt damage twice and give two cards.

This hurt my head I mean you hurt my head... I swear people and magic conjure up problems and are so delusional they have no grounding of common Sense nor act like they've played any other game.😢

You mispronounced "Jitte". The S is silent.