Deadlifting Injury: Low Back and Leg Pain ft. Adam Meakins (Disc Herniation Discussion & Education)

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In this video, we interview Adam Meakins, a physiotherapist who shares his recent experience with low back and leg pain that began after a deadlifting session.
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Intro (0:00)
What happened? (0:19)
Have you experienced this before? (3:50)
In hindsight, would you do anything differently? (4:21)
Any significant life changes in past 3-4 months? (5:44)
Other possible contributing factors (8:07)
What's the recovery process been like? (10:31)
Advantages of being a physio? (13:46)
Recovery strategies (16:22)
How did you decide to return to the gym? (18:40)
What have been the positives & negative of documenting your recovery? (20:54)
Setting realistic expectations (28:02)
Why haven't you seen another physio? (29:39)
When would you get imaging? (35:00)
Will you continue to document your journey? (38:55)
What have you learned most from this experience? (40:53)
Final recommendations (44:21)
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Disclaimer: The information presented is not intended as medical advice or to be a substitute for medical counseling but intended for entertainment purposes only. If you are experiencing pain, please seek the appropriate healthcare professional.
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@sebya1906 2 года назад

This channel is a jewel like a glass of water in the middle of the desert. Scientific based information and proper quotation. Excellent channel guys!

@E3Rehab 2 года назад

Thank you, Sebastian!

@PoMPMAZTUR 2 года назад

Thank you! I just had the same injury in July (and have worked with a PT, spine specialist, lots of others) and to hear a PT - particularly an intelligent and thoughtful one - talking about the same pain, frustration, fear, etc... is so valuable.

@athiroajphawinthanawit3727 2 года назад

I've been follow adam's back pain diary for a month on twiter. Thankyou E3 rehab for bring him in your podcast. This is really helpful.

@SplashFireFilms Год назад

love it, we all know those feeling and insecurity when injured, thanks for sharing

@olitonottero7620 Год назад

Thank you for sharing this video !!

@mathews0618 2 года назад

I had a cervical injury in my c5-c7 that caused nerve issues and pain. I got an mri a year later because i wanted to be sure I wasn't ignoring anything serious. I have 2 broad based herniated discs. One on c5-c6 and one on c6-c7 My neck has slowly calmed down over the last year. Its not 100% but its pretty darn good. I just have to rest it when it's inflamed. When i over use it it wont make progress. I am being referred to a specialist but i will likely refuse surgery. But had i not had a year to see that it slowly heals i would have had surgery. I expect a near full recovery in the long run. I may have to listen more closely to my body like i should but i can do a 12 hour truck ride with almost zero discomfort now. Just thought i would share to give hope. I am a fit vegetarian. I do cardio multiple times a week. But i cut trees for a living.

@furqantayyabkiani 2 года назад

I cannot describe my feelings for you guys. May God give you whatever you want in life..

@user-gy6yj3ii1x 2 года назад

Thanks alot for useful information, comrades

@therealyanhuang 2 года назад

Thanks for sharing this video. ❤️

@Ryan_Powers25 2 месяца назад

I had a similar experience and it also happened in between the lockdowns. I had been dieting for 12 weeks, training hard and doing cardio by walking on a treadmill at a high incline. The way I'm built, that put an extra pressure on my lower back. When I finished with the diet, I was just doing various exercises at the gym just to have fun. I did some RDLs with a pretty light weight for me, 80kgs, and felt that sharp jolt in my back. I forced myself to get through the pain, so I moved on to leg presses and managed to finish the workout. But later, I fell of a chair, had little feeling in my left leg. I managed to walk but had what they call flappy left foot. Later, I didn't feel much pain, just no strength in my left leg. I couldn't even do body weight lunges; I'd fall to the side. It took a few months, but my condition had improved a lot. I never went back to doing any powerlifting movements and I backed off doing anything heavy. I think my age, late 40s, wear and tear, genetics, all played a role. I have had an MRI done, I have scoliosis and disc herniation L1-L5 with radiculopathy. Things were great for about a year. Then last fall, I began to feel severe lower back pain. Some days, it was hard to get out of bed. This must be due to me putting on some weight, and as I was doing it, I was stupid for running to compensate for the extra calories. I think that just made the whole thing worse. These days, I am doing stretches, the half-cobra and cat-cow stretches seem to do the trick. I sleep with one of those flexible lifting weights on, it seems to decompress my spine a bit. And I'm working on losing some weight. I can walk, but I find that after 20 minutes, I feel a bit of a nerve pain in my buttocks. I've also bought a stationary bike. Pain meds also help. Just sharing my story, hoping it might help someone.

@philipkim9779 2 года назад

This is such a great content. Thank you.

@er.mayurpatel 2 года назад

Hi, thank you for informative videos on various issues. I have severe pinched nerve problem in between area of right shoulder blade and spinal chord. Can you please provide long term and effective solution? Any repetitive work for continuous 10-15 minutes using right hand give me lot of pain at this particular spot. Please help

@raeldor 2 года назад

I admire and appreciate your honesty and documentation of your injury and recovery. I have kind of a more fundamental question. As you get older and more prone to injury (I'm over 50 now), is the benefit of doing low rep training really worth the risk? Can't you get the same results doing medium (8-12) rep training with lower weight? While I think we can all agree that aesthetics is important at any age, I feel that you can still get good aesthetic results while reducing the risk and making the training more functional and safer. For example, you could argue that when picking something up in real life you don't usually use a stance akin to deadlifting (in my opinion a technically difficult lift to execute properly), but maybe something more akin to a sumo deadlift or a landmine deadlift. Just throwing it out there for your opinion. Thank you.

@thomast6823 2 года назад

I don't think you're looking for my response but I'm going to give it anyway. From an aesthetic perspective there is really no benefit to working in these very low rep ranges. You will get all the same benefit from working in the 8-12+ range, aesthetically speaking. However, if you need to be good at a skill, like deadlifting a heavy weight, then you need to practice that skill I.e. do heavy lifting. Obviously, it also depends on what you enjoy doing. Finally, for most people's general needs you can build great levels of strength working in the 8-12 range. Lower work will help improve the skill of moving more weight but how often do most people use that day to day?

@Dr_Footbrake Год назад

@@thomast6823 just to add to this, from a hypertrophy POV there’s no real obvious advantage of 8-12 reps over 15-25 either, and you’ll get more CV benefits from the higher rep range. So for the average joe looking to prolong his years with a high QoL you could make a case for almost exclusively training in at 15+ reps/set.

@Pentagathusosaurus Год назад

If you're lifting something from the ground outside of a barbell deadlift you definitely shouldn't use a deadlift technique, because you aren't going to be lifting something shaped like a barbell. In a deadlift your feet are parallel, when lifting something like a dumbell, you'd naturally place one foot ahead of the other to give you stability, which is also what basic manual handling training teaches. I guess you could use that kind of stance in a hexbar if it's wide enough.

@raeldor Год назад

@@Pentagathusosaurus I think that might be difficult with a hex bar, but I could definitely see that technique being used with a landmine deadlift👍 . I think a hex bar is more akin to a squat than a deadlift tbh.

@Pentagathusosaurus Год назад

@@raeldor my gym doesn't have hexbars so I don't really know, but yeah I do use a landmine row with that stance.

@deloach132435 Год назад

did he post the video of the lift

@ericdrake4544 2 года назад

legit currently having almost the same problem he had: 1) intense LBP from deadlifts 2) intense pain in groin 3) knee extensor weakness

@rickybobby538 Год назад

Is there video of the injury?

@Harry-ni7ys 2 года назад

Love how much this guys ruffles feathers just because he poses some counter arguments to long-standing beliefs that have no real evidence to back them up. Maybe it’s just because he’s a bit of a smart ass 😂 good on yah Adam

@yomamamama6213 2 года назад

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@E3Rehab 2 года назад

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@hecdeveloper852 Год назад

Ajalas

@gothops2632 2 года назад

I bet you American guys find Adam's accent amusing 😁

@gerrymcgrann1679 Год назад

This guy is showing so much cognitive dissonance I find it incredible. It’s either that or he is so dishonest , he can’t come out and admit that deadlifting is a high risk, dangerous exercise due to the amount of compressive shear force it exerts through the lumbar spine at the top of the movement. And the reason he won’t do that is because he lacks the intellectual honesty due to the fact he’s spent his whole career telling patients that deadlifting is perfectly safe and great for you despite almost everyone who does it regularly becomes injured from it at some point. He’d have to admit he was wrong but is simply too arrogant. The guy said himself he was rolling around the floor in agony and yet didn’t stop to consider first principles but instead blamed it on the lockdown or that he wasn’t wearing his lucky socks. As a physio it astounds me how people look up to this guy. He is a grifter and a snake oil salesman and I look forward to him posting videos of him doing heavy deadlifts in the future to prove he still does them and they’re completely safe

@sharpie6888 9 месяцев назад

Who you talking about

@QronoZ713 8 месяцев назад

He's posted a lot of videos of him deadlifting again now, so what do you say?

@GodIsPureLove 2 года назад

NEVER DO DEADLIFT IF you have lower back problems. i have spinal stenosis and 1diots tell me deadlifts help your back, NO THEY DONT THEY WORSEN IT. me and this guy are living proof. i feel better when i dont even do deadlift or squats or goodmornings. happened 3x weni deadlift but im 30yr old so recover was faster liek a few days. yup for 2 to 5 mintues you cant do anything but lay down. go ahead and do deadlift if you think it will help with lowerback but it will ake it worse, have fun being in pain when you get older. STOP DOING DEADLIFT EVEN IF YOU DONR HAVE BACK PAIN. you will have them later

@E3Rehab 2 года назад

We always appreciate people sharing their experiences, but your individual experience does not generalize to the entire population. As we discussed in this video, there are many reasons why Adam may have experienced pain during this particular deadlifting session. The conclusion isn't that deadlifts are bad.

@TheDuffcat 2 года назад

If you hurt your hamstring you will probably have to do Nordics or RDls to strengthen the hamstring eventually. I'd you hurt your knee you will probably have to do knee extensions and squats to strengthen the knee. The back is no different. If you hurt it you're going to have to load it again at some point. And no you don't HAVE to do deadlifts for it but if prescribed correctly deadlifts can do a lot for people with back pain. Problem is they often aren't prescribed correctly

@gothops2632 2 года назад

@@E3Rehab The problem with deadlifts is that the hip extension muscles will always be stronger than the isometric strength of the erector spinae so as you increase the load, the low back will eventually give out. Everyone I know who pushed heavy on the deadlift has injured their low back at some point.

@jk-rg2ko 2 года назад

None of that is empirically factual and anecdotes dont serve in place of evidence. Stop noceboing people. Hilarious how you say deadlifting is bad for your back but then wilfully ignore it strengthens your back including connective tissue, ligaments etc. Not to mention studies that say it overwhelmingly helps people with LBP. Also notice how every powerlifter or Olympic weightlifter or anyone who does heavy pulls/deadlifts isnt in a wheelchair or in constant pain? Which brings me to to..... If you're getting pain from deadlifting you need to look at your tissue capacity, see: shit load management (including inefficiency of how you're performing the lift itself), your nutrition aka not eating like a child, horrendous recovery habits inc sleep and other external psychosocial stressors that contribute to pain and injury such as work stress etc. Hint: its not the lift thats the problem.