It must be horrible for Rusty that no one knows how horrible a man his father was. Everyone thinks he's the creep and the monster, but his father was much, much worse.
Yeah for real, must be a really irritating situation to have your Dad who frankly terrible be idolized by thousand for being someone he was the opposite of.
@@potterinu Its not that they dont care, but their whole lives and collective legacy are tied to Jonas. It's like the main star from the popular show that you were a character in being outed as a sex predator a few decades later, like Cosby. That kind of thing getting out about Jonas would sour everything for all of them in the twilight of their respected careers/lives.
I love that he's trying to go for the "learning is a magical experience" approach, but has to dial it back when he realizes that Dean wants a more "realistic" learning environment.
I don’t think realistic is the correct term normal is probably better he’s sick and tired of all the costumes and crap dude just wants a normal life with normal stresses like bills granted being a Venture he’s set so he doesn’t need to worry about bills
"The boy must die and the man must be reborn."-quoted from Game of Thrones or something... I really think Dean needs to embark on this story arc. Even if the outcome and endgame of it will change him forever, I think he needs it. He's already died fourteen times and dealt with loneliness from his perspective, so why not one more social experiment?
the weird thing was, that used to be the reason, you were to become exposed to different ideas and new things, and those would guide you, now we tend to treat college as a glorified vocational tech/gatekeeper. Of course, college was also really super elitist back then too, and if you were there at all, you were probably rich. so good and bad, but there was a time that statement was not crazy.
I mean, that's the whole point behind the creation of the General Education major. It's so that those going into college not knowing what they want to do can figure out through exposure what they want to achieve.
I've realized something, Rusty wants Dean to be a super scientist, and admittedly it's pretty selfish. But in truth, it doesn't matter if he becomes one or not he'll always be stuck dealing with villains because of who Jonas was. Like his professor here, sure he thinks he escaped the gravity of these supervillains, but in this episode he still gets arched. There's no escaping this life unless you change your name and get a boring office job. And if the theory that Hank is going to become a villain and arch Dean turns out to be true, then Dean creates his own villain when he slept with Sirena, Rusty didn't even cause it.
the big wrench in the works with that theory is that Hank wants to be like *Brock Samson* and that's definitely not villain material. He wants to be the cool superhero that saves the day. I just don't buy the idea of him being this villain who arches Dean. I get the feeling that they're going to have a confrontation but they will eventually patch up their relationship somehow in the movie. Also, being fair regarding the professor, he HAS managed to get out of the bigger parts of the supervillain thing. He's no level 10 who's forced to deal with world-wrecking monsters, due to being level 4, at most, he's probably dealing with the equivalent of a home intruder with a handgun while he's practically bulletproof.
You'd be right but... The professor DID change his name and DID get a boring job. He teaches botany for crying out loud! And The Guild still found him. Must have been all the charity he's been doing.
@@Darkstar1484 Professor “Helper”: We have been noticing some hints that someone has been growing pheromone ferns lately. Dean if you have been using those to try and coerce your classmates into having romantic- Dean: It was an accident Professor! That’s why I disposed of them Professor “Helper”: I believe you but I have to know how you disposed of them Dean: I tore them up and threw them in the trash… Professor: Oh Dean… tearing them up kills the parent but encourages seed dispersal… the garbage pickup probably dispersed them all across the neighborhood on their route… Dean: I’m so sorry, what do we do?! Professor: Best we can do now is wait two weeks and take notice of where the orgies are happening and dispose of the plants properly. That’s one good thing about plant super science Dean… when they get out of control, they can be eliminated … *_with Hellfire_*
@@Abdega I would watch the fuck out of a show with this premise, an ex villain who is mentoring the son of an Action Hero in science to better humanity, but the monster of the week was accidentally created by the boy and the two have to clean up the mess. This shit writes itself!
@@CharlieBrown20XD6 There are plenty of people who see him for the has-been loser he is, but some still see him as young Rusty Venture, boy adventurer. Billy is one of those people even though he knows Rusty's a piece of trash. Hell, even the Monarch knows how much of a loser Venture is. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iFTRYbbiWIM.html
CharlieBrown20XD6 hatred seems to like Rusty. JJ never viewed him in a bad light despite having every reason to. And the Guild members from season 6 all seemed to respect him as an arch so I would assume anyone who isn’t super close to him doesn’t view him negatively.
I think it is kind of going to also go like that Ellen Page movie "The East". His mentor is into green peace and what not too. And that was a botany class. Dean is also dressed up like a character from that movie too.
Yeah, it kind of looks like some sort of arch villain or vigilante group in the works there. Dean and Sirena were the only two students in there, and the class was at night time hours too. And what's so wrong with Dean being a super-villain? What has being part of team venture done for him besides giving him an isolated life and fourteen gruesome deaths? The few friends he has or had in the past moved on to better things. Maybe it wont be so bad for him. He could be really good at it.
He might also become an anti-hero. Either way he seems to be headed in a more stable direction than his father, especially since he's actually trying to get his $#^! together.
That, or the Venture universe's version of the Green Goblin or something. His roommate is The Brown Widow and he is a billionaire, but who knows what could happen. His story seems very similar to Sam Rami Spiderman movies.
Yeah, true. The Monarch is kind of like that, in fact, I can see why he is always so angry at Rusty Venture. He basically didn't have as much and worked extremely hard in The Guild while Rusty is feeling a lot of dumb luck success even though most of his ideas are rip-offs. While Malcome is putting in a lot of work and seeing the very little reward on the arching. Then again, I always get a feeling that Rusty could have had a chance to be like a "messed up Dr. Who" and be a traveler amongst worlds but even in that, he acts so mediocrely. One of his other version discovers interdimensional travel, and he wants to steal someone elses' musical play? One of his kids is probably going to do something great.
lots of people think dean is going to become a super villain,but i dont think that will happen,the thing is,all supervillains loves their job,they love the game ,superscientist like rusty or J.J they tolerate the supervillains,they tolerate the game because they know is better than the alternative, to have a bunch of non regulate costume freaks with ray guns,but supervillains love the game,they love to hate they love to be the bad guys,any villain even those who had turn their dream into a mere job like phantom limb seem so be having a ton of fun doing what they do,and dean hate it all, he hates the game,so i dont think he will ever be a supervillain,not even a hero of some kind
I like that even though we know how awful JVS was, the show keeps piling on people who dismiss Rusty in favor of his dad, who in reality they know nothing about. I really want to see JVS out in the real world, and see people realize that Rusty was/is a slacker, but his dad is absolutely monstrous in some ways.
Plus there's the fact none of the super science crap Jonas Sr made back in the 60's has hardly changed the world forty years later. Jonas was able to charm investors into thinking he was going to change the world, but eventually they wised up and the super science bubble popped. It's not that Rusty is a bad Super Scientist, it's just that he's trying to do what his father did, but there's hardly any money in super science anymore. Even JJ, as brilliant and charismatic as he was, had to shift his company's focus to consumer electronics to pay the bills.
Maybe Hank will become Dean's bodyguard since he has the talent for it. And thus the two of them will be greater than their ancestors making a new path of hope, love and supercience for everybody. They'll be know by the world as: The Venture Brothers! CUE END CREDITS
He will, it’s impossible to escape his destiny of replacing Rusty no matter how hard he tries. That’s the tragedy of his life, I’m not sure what Hank will become but he sure as hell sing going to work for the OSI because he would’ve already started down that road, hell we may even find out he isn’t a Venture.
@@torch3119 As long as the fandom still keeps being civil, then the most likely that it could get picked up. We don't want another Metalocalypse situation.
More like he's so broken from his upbringing that Rusty can't believe that his family can ever have a normal lifestyle. "He's a Venture, he'll never shake it."
Well for Rusty science was only part of it, the bulk was being placed in constant peril by his father's antics and not emotionally supported that well by him...that and lacking a mother figure growing up.
Rusty seems more devious and self serving than anything. Investing in his kid to become a money machine later on? Likely. Paying for Dean to go to college knowing full well Hank doesnt want to and thereby keeping those two apart to prevent further chaos for himself? More likely.
Rusty confessed to Hank unbeknownst, that he has no doubt Hank would do alright in life. Dean is the one he's earlier about because he's so similar. So Rusty is hoping that by forcing Dean in, he at least has a better chance at life. All this despite Venture Senior having done the same with him. The difference is that Rusty thinks Dean might have a better chance then himself at succeeding.
god damn it! i want to see a new season already! i wanna see Dean actually succeed in academics! i want a whole arc of The Monarch and Rusty coming to terms that they are half bros! i want to see what the hell is going on with Hank! god fucking damn it all!!! *I WANT TO SEE!!!*
“You are not going to tell me you went to college with the Monarch, too. Where did you guys go, super crazy, no way school?” All these crazy people, villains, scientists, impressionable students, all in one place? It’s cyclical. Makes me wonder who among the student body will become villains and for what reason...I’m guessing Hank cause he thinks Dean will try to steal his girl, or some Plato from Rebel Without A Cause sympathetic character.
I wonder if that's how Dean gets kicked out of college: makes a serum that turns plants into monsters he can control. It would be funny if they kept up the trope of Dean always getting a female costume, so he ends up still wearing a Poison Ivy esque spandex suit lol
Many comments pointed out how lots of people would say such awesome stuff about Jonas Sr but hardly give Doc a kind word, but he was still a brilliant scientist and even Doc admits that at one point no matter how much of a crappy father he was, the fact that Jonas Sr had the ability to put on a good face and smile for the camera seemed to go hand in hand. But I think that's what makes Doc better, he isn't putting on a fake smile and is a very honest about who he is as a person, even if people think he's such a dick at times at least he doesn't outright deny it. As for Botany: something could still happen no matter which science you're studying big or small, though i'm surprised they didn't come across any plant based problems before this point. (Well aside from Augustus St. Clouds monster plant that eats intruders)
@@ChaosSepher you know, Hank would probably be the one to tell him that. Dean: I'm taking Botany, good luck trying to turn that to evil super science. Hank: Dude, you might want to check out a little lady called Poison Ivy... Dean: NYAAAH!
"The best thing for being sad," replied Merlyn, "is to learn something. That's the only thing that never fails. You may grow old and trembling in your anatomies, you may lie awake at night listening to the disorder of your veins, you may miss your only love, you may see the world about you devastated by evil lunatics, or know your honour trampled in the sewers of baser minds. There is only one thing for it then - to learn. Learn why the world wags and what wags it. That is the only thing which the mind can never exhaust, never alienate, never be tortured by, never fear or distrust, and never dream of regretting. Learning is the only thing for you. Look what a lot of things there are to learn." - The Once and Future King
"I don't know what I'm interested in, that's why I'm in college" ...y'know, I know it's Hank who makes the biggest deal about not wanting to go to/having absolutely no interest in college- but that line kinda makes me wonder if Dean actually wants it that much either. It seems a little bit like he might just be going because 1, Rusty was adamant that he would be and arguing with him is pointless, and 2, really just because of what college (on some level or another) represents to him- something normal. This would be the natural next step for any normal 18 year old, Dean assumes, so that's what he's going to do in the hopes that maybe it'll stick. He doesn't want college, he wants out of his family's bullshit, and the only thing he can think of to do to make it happen is aggressively go through the milestones normal people do in the hopes that if he playacts at it hard enough it'll become true. He wants the opposite of whatever Rusty's world is founded on, if they want to be spectacular, he wants to be as mundane as possible- because maybe then it'll lose interest in him. He does average people things, and it'll teach him how to be an average person. He's not interested in being in college, he's interested in being a college student. He's interested in the role, rather than what it has to offer, because the superficial aspect offers him something to cling to.
So true, especially when we look at the fact that he and Hank, despite being clones, spent 18 years in subliminal learning beds that probably taught them every subject imaginable. For someone like that college would seem a waste of time, let alone the effort, and the fact that his family's rich would only further that feeling of pointlessness. You're right about him using it for coping/escape especially in Dean's case, i.e. his trauma of knowing that he's the clone of someone who's died numerous times and/or that he might die and is probably the last one.
Hank himself had a confrontation with their father (while his Dad was tied up and thinking he was being interrogated by his sons' kidnappers), where Rusty says that the reason he's more concerned about Dean's welfare than Hank's is because Dean is so much like himself. "I don't have to worry about Hank as much. Hank's so much stronger, he can take care of himself. I know he'll be okay... but I'm more worried about Dean..."
I'm re-watching these clips and I just realized how much the creators were setting up Jonas Venture to possibly be the last thread in the show. They've already established Jonas as possibly the most revered man in the show and as the show's only credible villain, there are so many instances in the final season hinting that Jonas was going to return in the now canceled final season and have everything he's done come to light. A real shame we'll never get to see the ending we wanted and disappointing that Rusty will not get the retribution he deserves.
In a world like that, I'm pretty sure that almost every kind of science has been used by a super hero or villain. But it's oddly comforting Botany is among the least super. Weve seen what DC does with it!
now that I think about it botany is a really meaningful science for someone who can control fire, considering the importance of fire regimes have for some ecosystems growth
@@DemonicAdj Don't forget the working teleport pad. Or him reviving a Brock-murdered Monarch minion into a Frankenstein monster, but with way more intelligence than The Creature.
I have said it before and I will say it again, the internet needs a spinoff series focusing exclusively on Victor Von Hellfire and his arch-nemesis Red Death
This is definitely a character that needs more screen time in the future. Dude could honestly have his own show and he’s in like, just a handful of scenes.
The professor is a Hero with a villain for a father and Dean has a "Hero" (Rusty is on team Hero but it's Rusty) for a father and I think they are an intentional parallel. Dean might become a Villain if the show ever continues.
My bet is Hank and Dean are attempted clones of Jonus Venture Sr that Rusty invested in to make himself money later. He isolated his fathers DNA from himself and then he supplemented it with DNA from Myra. Like Jurassic park but you get hyperactive weird kids instead of Dinosaurs