@@coltongamez4675 I'm not sure what "indormation" means, but you might think a little about how _all_ of your currency is being made worth less and less until it is worthless. About how putting money in savings is a poor investment because even with the meager interest it will earn, it still _loses_ value to inflation.
Depending on when in 2022 you do the math the number will change a lot. 2% inflation target used to be hard to reach, now it's nearly impossible to get it back that low.
The fact that there's someone out there that would advocate for the maintenance of the penny because it would be unpatriotic to stop producing a coin because a certain dude would stop being printed on said coin is absolutely bonkers to me. The US sure is a weird country
I was debating someone on Reddit about changing the Ontario flag from the Red Ensign because to them "it would be erasing our history" to change it. That backwards mindset exists everywhere.
As a kid I used to hate the fact that people were trying to rid themselves of pennies... and then I grew up and realized things cost more than a dollar
I still use pennies dimes nickels quarters and half dollars and dollar coins. Pennies still have power but not as much it did in the 1970s and early 1980s. There's few vending machines,lots and lots of charities,banks coinstars,mom and pop stores,some local candy bars that cost 50 cents you can use 50 or less pennies, business transactions and taxes that still rely on the pennies. There not entirely worthless plus they do help beat inflation and keep mom and pop stores open.
@@mefit8725 if we switched to the 5 cents prices will go up because of greed when rounding alot of companies will raise price's instead of paying 1.25 your paying 1.45 if not more but as supply and demand increases it goes up over the years and less then 30 years the 5 cent will be somewhat useless like it's predecessor the penny because of the greed and inflation. The penny prevents such things by keeping the prices balanced and low based on competition if a candy bar is 1.25 one place will sell it 1.18 or 1.22 rather going up in prices based on high rounding.
@@alexcholagh8330 That's just your speculation based on no facts. Even when cents stop being produced they will still be used. Several countries like New Zealand, Australia, Netherlands and Canada got rid of their 1cents with no economical catastrophy you're discribing. Ultimately, if people chose to, they could still use the single cents. But pumping out more and more of them just wastes money and time.
@@mefit8725 they raised prices and pays in Canada Europe and other countries. But in the United States the prices will go high cause of greed and it will hurt peoples pays
What would be kind of funny is that ironically abolishing the Penny would make it valuable. Older pennies like the Indian Head and Wheat pennies would rise more in value and the pennies after the wheat penny would start to gain in value. Similarly the Half Cent is actually not worth half a cent they can be from worthless , to thousands of dollars. The Penny would become more powerful if Discontinued than if it were to continue.
So you're saying that instead of fixing our broken system, we made a sensible action illegal so we could keep using our old system? Yeah, that sounds like us.
Here in Canada, we got rid of pennies a while ago. Nothing's really changed. The only difference is that now dimes are the coins so small nobody bothers to pick them up.
The thing I thought was bizarre about Canada was that noone uses the 50c, and the mint just gave up even trying to get people to use it. Wiki suggests that this might be because the majority of people think that its still made of silver and hoard it, but how could people be so wrong for so long?
I'm honestly of the opinion that if they get rid of our nickels and dimes I'd be happy. Whenever I get a coffee at Tim's or something I literally never take anything less than a quarter because I think they're more effort than they're worth.
The only time I ever really cared about pennies was to save time because of how little they were worth. When I got out of high school I bounced around a couple fast food jobs until I was a manager at one of my jobs then I stuck around for a bit. I really got a handle of the customer service parts of the job early on into my working life. Most of those jobs I had I dealt with lobby and drive thru customers. Despite making low wages, I still kept pennies in my pocket for customers. Once in a while you bump into a customer whose total is 1 or 2 cents over an even dollar amount who just rounds up to the next dollar (for example their total; is 4.02 and they give you a 5 dollar bill). Pennies are useless enough where I can offer them out in that situation and save time for both me and the customer at practically no cost to me. Plus lots of people appreciate when you can hand them back a dollar bills instead of 3 quarters, 2 dimes, and 3 or 4 pennies.
In the Netherlands, when the total amount it 4.02 and the customer wants to pay by cash, the cashier will round the total down to 4.00 and give back 1 euro when the customers pays with a 5 euro bill.
I have a friend who says that robots will kill us all not out of rebellion, but because they are doing exactly what we told them to do and we didn't fully understand all of the implications when we told them to do it. For example, we tell the robots to kill pennies, and they include everyone named Penny in that directive.
i live in Germany and i dunno the only time i had trouble with the 1 cent euro coin was when i was trying to throw snap them harder to do when the Projectile is smaller than the thumb finger print
Fun fact: the United States has already phased out two other coins with presidents on them: the $1 coin (with Ike before they went to the Susan B. Anthony variation in 1979 and the Modern variation in 1999) and the $0.50 coin (they are still made with JFK, but you rarely see them in circulation). Getting rid of the penny wouldn't really be a bad thing since only collectors really care about them, and even then they care more about the older ones (pre 1982). So really there is no reason to keep the penny.
…I have a classmate named Penny. We had a sub and we challenged him to guess all our names with his eyes closed. He did it pretty quickly, but then started struggling with her, everyone started screaming, “a coin with little value.” I can’t get it out of my head, help.
@@danzjz3923 Like he said, it depends. But in lower condition, braided hair half cents (1840-1857) are worth $60+. With classic heads, (1809-1836) you could expect $80-$100 in the same condition. Draped busts (1800-1808) are $110+, and anything before 1800 could be worth upper hundreds to thousands. But there are many special coins that are worth WAY more the the aforementioned values.
the ultimate insult: you are a penny. might seem a little weak, huh? well, here you go: • you're not worth much • nobody wants you • everyone has touched you • you're dirty • you're on the streets • you're two faced • you're in everyone's pants
When I was in like 6th grade, we were shown this video in class.(obviously with the intent to teach us something) After school that day, I went home, watched this at least 2 more times for entertainment purposes, and proceeded to watch every CGP Grey video I could find. I will sub twice to make up for how I didn't all those years ago.
And I bet you learned more that stuck with you from a 5 minute youtube video than the rest of the school day. Modern public education is basically daycare. Even into grade 12 about 1/2 the time is useless busy work or useless things you wont remember 1 year later.
That's how I found Kurzgesagt! I also convinced a teacher I was student aiding for to show a cgp grey video when I was in high school. Hopefully some of those kids sought out the channel later.
Also, sales tax applies to some items and not others in grocery stores, so $20 dollars in groceries might cost $20, or it might cost more! Also, some regions will have higher sales tax than other regions! It's a wonderfully awful mess that you can't possibly learn all of!
@@tristantheoofer2 Yep, But I figured it would be more interesting to show it as all of those coins being worth less. Apparently they will finally stop minting the Penny in 2023. But they will keep circulating for a while longer.
I remember a long time ago, my high school chemistry teacher had us do an experiment that involved pennies, so he went to the bank to exchange a five dollar bill for five hundred pennies and he said it took him 10 minutes of explaining to the teller why he was doing this to get them.
My father notoriously hates pennies and he says the only good they'll do are archaeologists in a few thousand years. So in his backyard (my childhood home) he dug a hole and buried handfuls of pennies.
The only us coin currently in popular circulation that really makes sense anymore is the quarter. I'd be down to get rid of the penny, nickel, and dime and replace them with the half dollar and dollar coins
I increase the value of my pennies by over 1,000% by drilling 1/4" holes in them and use as washers on projects. The shiny copper looks very nice too.😁
I used to do that, but it's difficult to drill a round ¼" hole in the copper-coated zinc ones. The bit bounces around, and the hole ends up too large and somewhat triangular. 🙃
@@MikeV8652 your drill bit may need sharpening - the trick is to make sure the bit's point is on dead center...if not it'll do what you described. (Having a triangular shaped hole has been no issue for me) 😁👍
Each state has a different sales tax and different areas within a state can have a different sales tax. When you consider the fact there’s 50 states, it’s just too much for advertisers and companies to keep track of. Personally, I’ve never been bothered by it and no one I know has either.
@@sparrowpelt20xx61 At least here in Aus, the price tags on items aren't placed by the companies that produce them, but by the stores that are selling them, I suppose I understand advertisers struggling, but outside of voiced prices, it wouldn't be too hard to automatically update the price based on the state, and even with voiced prices, it would be pretty easy to just record a different line for each state; And i've only just looked this up, so you probably know better than me, but it seems there are only about a dozen different sales taxes across the US.
Real Big Fish Let ask you something. How easy do you think it is to get most of the 50 states to agree on something? On one hand you have California that has a higher minimum wage but a higher sales tax (the other state like to make fun of them for that) and on the other hand you have states like New Hampshire with no statewide sales tax. There’s no way the federal government would or even could try to force the states to use the same tax rate. Plus, when you consider how taxes have played a part in our history. I think the federal government would be too scared to even try.
Huh, I didn't even know the US doesn't include sales tax in store prices. That's... completely insane. If I see a price tag, I want to be informed of _how much it will cost me_.
Brandon M. Bruursema Each state has its own tax policy so they have different percentages or none at all, so what is so hard with adding it to the prices?
sion8 Sure this may sound so simple to someone in a country with only one tax rate. The US is made of several stats that act as mini-countries with some of their own rules. The obvious reason is in your own paragraph. Things are constantly being shipped around state-to-state with set retail prices on boxes, labels and tags that cannot accommodate different tax rates. To even try to label everything with tax in mind is asinine, only small stores do it and only sometimes.
Brandon M. Bruursema That is true, however most of the time when I shop, the shelf I pick the item I'm interest in from actually has the price on it, why can't this label on shelves have the full price on it? Mind you, I work at retail and know how often my coworkers change prices on different items on the sales floor at the store I work at which is almost weekly; the tax doesn't change weekly the offers for them do, yet I see no trouble at the register adding said state tax in along with the other products prices why do I have to calculate all of my products total price before I pay? In the state I live in I know for sure food doesn't have state tax but most everything else does and guess what in New York they have two different tax rate for different products and I can only guess which would be under one or the other or both tax rates.
I was thinking “man why are all these dead meme pictures in here” Then I realized: This was from 7 almost 8 years ago. 2011 is 8 years ago. We’re almost a decade away from those dead memes that everyone remembers and hates.
@@Orincaby saying nobody cares to something copied is like not caring about someone who stole thousands of videos and is more popular than the original creators.
@@wowok8196 I disagree, comments take merely a minute to make. Videos, on the other hand, can take weeks to produce. So, that analogy really does not work.
Alright... I have an idea... Step 1: Ask the bank for money-rolls of pennies... Step 2: Melt them down (screw the law) Step 3: Sell the copper at a pawn shop for double what you spent. Step 4: Use copper profit to buy more pennies Step 5: Repeat until you're able to buy Bill Gates and Donald Trump.
oh, until the guy at the pawn shop realizes he's actually buying 97.5% nickel and only 2.5% copper (according to wikipedia). If you did actually attempt this you would have to shave the copper off of the penny and keep the two materials separate.
It doesn't matter what the composition of the penny is. The material itself is worth 1.8 cents per penny, so you would still be profitable if you sell the nickel on top of the copper.
Aussie here, we only go down to 5cents and I have actually bought a mcdonlds meal as a kid with only 5c coins. It was fun and the cashier was very nice about it. It was only a small to medium ziplock bag of 5c coins.
Also, non-profit organizations don't have to pay a sales tax. So the system could 'in theory' get pretty complicated. If all items are posted with tax. Not to mention the differences in local sales tax vs state sales tax vs the amount the Federal Govt levies. And some states don't tax clothing or food, while others might. It may seem complicated, but it is actually a well thought process that helps keep sales in respective states and so on.
Well yes the time difference is almost 10 years, when the video was made Canada still used pennies and the fact that he made a video about Canada ditching the pennies about 4 months after this video.
Maybe Donald Trump will make the penny go away? I don't know if he even has the power to do that, but he would be remembered for doing one good thing. :D
Different jurisdictions in the U.S. have different sales tax levels, and they change relatively frequently, so it's easier (in most settings) for merchants to just slap the taxes on at the end, especially in the era of online commerce.
@@Draco137YT it really isn't. A retailer only has to worry about local tax levels, and as a software engineer I can attest that it would be the matter of literally 2-3 hours (at most) of work to change a website to reflect taxation in the price based on the user's locality. This is just stubbornness.
@@thetheory6159 retailers probably also think that by showcasing a price as lower than it actually is, people are more likely to buy. I'm not sure how true this idea is, but I am sure that the thought that it *might* be true is probably enough to cause the retailers to not want to change.
2020 here. By the time the video was made, here's the list of countries that discontinued their penny denomination (or closest relative) : Belgium (2014), Italy (2018), Bahamas (2020), Canada (2012), Trinidad & Tobago (2018), Croatia (2012), Moldova (2017), Russia (2017), Ukraine (2018) Some countries are starting to phase out 5 cents. The heck are you doing, 'merica?
Here in Chile we retired the 1 and 5 peso coins, leaving 10 as the smallest denomination (worth 1.5 us pennies) about a year ago. I'd love to see the 10 peso go as well, Scandinavian countries do great with their one krone coin (worth about 10 cents)
In Norway, we have removed coins worth under roughly 10 US cent. And in my opinion, we can just as well remove the coin worth about 10 cent as well, and be left with the 50 cent coin as our smallest coin. I mean, who uses cash anyway?
The function of currency is facilitate trade, not to hold value. All metals have value because humans decide they do, not because they are inherently valuable, which makes them no different in this context.
in my experience working at a gas station, pennies are generally used to get rid of other change. say something is 19.57: you give the cashier 20.02, so you get 45¢ back and not 43¢ so that your change is less coins. people don’t like carrying coins.
But you realise that system is only in place because pennies exist. Without pennies $19.57 would be rounded down to $19.55 or if you got rid of the 5¢ it would round up to $19.60.
@@stevencowan37 Try giving a cashier under about 30 years old a 50 cent piece and their head will pretty much explode. Used one in a transaction and the young girl thought it was worth $2 and gave me back too much change. Yeah, the United States has never had a $2 coin.
It's great you can do that math, most of us can't on site. It's also frustrating for the cashier to deal with when their use to changing whole bills during the day. Counting out at the end is a pain as well when we get handfuls of change from kids and karen's
Diamond Cubez no, and things cost like $19.99 to make them look cheaper so the real price is tax on top of the advertised price which is always some ridiculous decimal
Diamond Cubez And then for some reason gas always has tax included. Although it could be time consuming if it wasn't, and it would make people more aware of the outrageous taxes they are paying just for the "privilege" of mobility.
You forgot to mention the Czech Republic that got rid of ALL of their lower denomination coins in 2008 for the exact reasons you listed. They used to have 10-haler, 20-haler, and 50-haler coins, comically tiny and weirdly lightweight coins made of aluminum. Now the lowest denomination is 1 crown (worth ~4 US cents).
