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Debate Assessing Ukraine's Battlefield 

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Ambassador Paula Dobriansky and Professor John Mearsheimer share contrasting viewpoints on Ukraine's military powers and the evolving dynamics of the conflict. Dobriansky highlights Ukraine's resilience and recent victories, and Mearsheimer argues that the balance of power is shifting in Russia's favor.
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@OpentoDebate
@OpentoDebate Месяц назад
Debate: Should Congress Stop Funding the War in Ukraine? Full debate video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rdtCyiKHtqE.html
@EricLaracy
@EricLaracy 25 дней назад
yes it should because 61B isn't going to create another offensive for Ukraine all that achieves is getting Biden to November without another foreign policy disaster on his hands.
@lnd3005
@lnd3005 Месяц назад
This debate perfectly represents US politics. Two women with no military experience arguing about a war with two men with substantial military experience. It's just them emoting at the guys the whole time
@ibinfo-tube5063
@ibinfo-tube5063 Месяц назад
You nailed it right 😆😆😂😂
@faizan418
@faizan418 Месяц назад
Women probably funded my military industrial complex who is making billions by paying millions to buy politicians
@supriadiramlan5545
@supriadiramlan5545 Месяц назад
LOL what amazed me how US citizen support US goverment who's bribed by weapon industries, then the goverment lending money, to make weapon industries profits who will pay the debt? US citizen, from tax. did weapon Industries pay Tax? nooo they got tax cut and tax holiday because they bribed Goverment politician US citizen that dumb????
@markmarcas6523
@markmarcas6523 Месяц назад
Your point is much deeper. We have a gynocentric west where policies are made to women’s sensibilities.
@Rdeki
@Rdeki Месяц назад
Two women who can't do it without reading from a paper
@hansu7474
@hansu7474 Месяц назад
Two women with no military experience, emotionally arguing about the war and getting support from the crowd is beyond me.
@lg2058
@lg2058 Месяц назад
Learn how to respect women.
@rajatshrma3
@rajatshrma3 Месяц назад
@@lg2058 This video is not about respecting women.
@suzegiljer3206
@suzegiljer3206 Месяц назад
Are these women mothers,,wives,,sisters,I cannot believe this,urging for more blood
@erazmuz
@erazmuz Месяц назад
​@lg2058 This video is about war, where men bleed and die in bits and pieces without women in sight, this isn't about women.
@Parr_World
@Parr_World Месяц назад
@@lg2058 You can only respect when there is a reason. I agree, their lack of knowledge showed through and your stating your feelings does not change the fact that, like you, they were arguing on feelings and not facts. Facts matter.
@20luzer52
@20luzer52 Месяц назад
Did Putin or Russia say they are taking over entire Ukraine in 4 days ?!? I have heard the West say this but can’t find when did Russia say it.
@johnbuggy9121
@johnbuggy9121 Месяц назад
General Milley claimed that Ukraine would be conquered in 10 days. I cant find any primary sources quoting Putin or any Russian official making such a statement.
@Rdeki
@Rdeki Месяц назад
Only "war experts" said this
@abyrahman6610
@abyrahman6610 Месяц назад
It was the Biden administration as part of it's propaganda
@braxxian
@braxxian Месяц назад
That’s because Russia never said any such thing. It’s just more nonsense drivel from the MSM. We should all be used to that by now.
@senyaaaaaa144
@senyaaaaaa144 Месяц назад
Russian state media said this on several occasions
@rajatshrma3
@rajatshrma3 Месяц назад
Professor John Mearsheimer is just exceptionally intelligent.
@ivanrudenko9707
@ivanrudenko9707 Месяц назад
He is not. He is creature from the past. He completely out to lunch
@cloudman8911
@cloudman8911 Месяц назад
​@@ivanrudenko9707you must BE stupid
@Mncrr
@Mncrr Месяц назад
@@ivanrudenko9707he is a west point graduate and an air force officer turned college professor. I think I’d respect his opinion over the clueless academic women
@EricLaracy
@EricLaracy 25 дней назад
@@ivanrudenko9707 yet he's called everything right
@ivanrudenko9707
@ivanrudenko9707 День назад
@@Mncrr I am not so savvy, carrying discussions on RU-vid. (Just trying to learn it.) Yes, I just looked at his bio, he has credentials and he predicted correctly that Ukraine should have kept nuclear deterrence, unlike the genius of American Foreign Policy, James Baker, architect of Budapest Memorandum. He might be right on Israel and its lobby as well. I am afraid that Mearsheimer has some kind of academic approach to this Ukrainian-Russian war and the tension between the West or US and Russia. He is looking at it from a position of sphere of influence between big powers, which you have to respect. There is another angle to it. Russia is an outdated centralized empire, which has nothing to offer to the citizens of neighboring countries (except bribing local politicians and provide discounted carbohydrates). It is clear and no coincidence that the centralized communist system had been changing from the West to the East. Now it reached Ukrainian-Russian borders. Russia or even Soviet Union had it chance in the early 90’s to become modern democratic and maybe as flexible or more society as US, but they blew it, because they as a society were not experienced and ready for it.
@Pens_-ji1sl
@Pens_-ji1sl Месяц назад
Are these women sales persons for the military industrial complex?
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
Fundamentally, yes. Although PR team is more accurate maybe
@supriadiramlan5545
@supriadiramlan5545 23 дня назад
YES
@ericp1139
@ericp1139 22 дня назад
Yes
@ayyleeuz4892
@ayyleeuz4892 16 дней назад
yes, we have them sitting in parliament in UK. example: Ben Wallace, minister of defence, who following his campaign against peace talks, leaves his position in government for a nice position in military industry. many such cases.
@supriadiramlan5545
@supriadiramlan5545 16 дней назад
@@ayyleeuz4892 this happenened in FAA officer, when retired work for Boeing or 9 of last 10 FDA commissioner retired works for Big Pharma....... same thing
@Iggr1111
@Iggr1111 Месяц назад
she should send her children then, I guess it would not be that easy to talk about the war in that theoretical way
@markmarcas6523
@markmarcas6523 Месяц назад
She probably has none because she was pursuing her career
@Iggr1111
@Iggr1111 Месяц назад
@@markmarcas6523 I guess you are right
@matej2733
@matej2733 Месяц назад
amateurs vs. professionals
@jeffmenard5955
@jeffmenard5955 Месяц назад
The two women echoing the claim that if only we send them weapons then Ukraine will win is a fallacy. First there is no capacity to produce them right away, most of the money is backfilling inventories, secondly, wonder weapons cannot be counted on to change the war. So far none of them have, thirdly, Ukraine has lost 500K+ soldiers and have run out of new recruits.
@braxxian
@braxxian Месяц назад
Hitler also believed that “wonder weapons” would win the war for him towards the end. The rest is history.
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
They dont care what the facts are because their emotions tell them that Voldemort Pootin is the bad guy and the good guys always win.
@simonsmatthew
@simonsmatthew Месяц назад
These women want to send long range nuclear weapons? Where do they think this will end? Do they want nuclear weapons next? Warmongerers.
@oviethuy8956
@oviethuy8956 26 дней назад
It was not about that. The West leaders know those weapons would be annihilated very quickly and the West countries would be emptying their main defenses.
@dannyferguson9415
@dannyferguson9415 Месяц назад
It is worth watching the whole debate. Thanks Open to Debate.
@ericzee6506
@ericzee6506 Месяц назад
Where's the full debate?
@ericp1139
@ericp1139 22 дня назад
Is it, really? If it’s any more of those 2 women propagandists, then no thanks.
@dannyferguson9415
@dannyferguson9415 22 дня назад
@@ericp1139 Know thy enemy.
@dannyferguson9415
@dannyferguson9415 22 дня назад
@@ericzee6506 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rdtCyiKHtqE.html
@ericp1139
@ericp1139 22 дня назад
@@dannyferguson9415 I know a globalist neocon shill when I see em. These ladies all read from the same script.
@muldoun45
@muldoun45 24 дня назад
It’s scary that these two uniformed women get a stage to debate with prof Mearsheimer and Danny Davis. I know who’s opinion I’d listen to.
@davidlloyd2583
@davidlloyd2583 Месяц назад
Russia's grain is also flowing. They are the largest exporter.
@LNGD_46
@LNGD_46 28 дней назад
This video should be studied in the future to distinguish between *Delusion* and *Reality,* and Ukraine by then would have become a great example for that study.
@goranvujasinovic2888
@goranvujasinovic2888 Месяц назад
Total disregard for the interests of the Ukrainian people by the two ladies. Just like disregard of their bosses for American people. Who are they? What is their expertise? Sad times.
@pfacka
@pfacka Месяц назад
Fair. Then perhaps try to listen to Ukrainians. Or do you think that you know better what is good for them that Ukrainians themselves?
@goranvujasinovic2888
@goranvujasinovic2888 Месяц назад
Yes, Ukrainian people do know what's best for them and that is why they elected Zelensky who ran on a platform of peace and reconciliation. Also, that is why Zelensky's government was to sign peace agreement in March 22. Unfortunately, it seems that powers that didn't care of what people wants prevailed. That is why today we have 100s of thousands of people dead on both sides, property destroyed and strong forces pushing the conflict towards nuclear war forgetting that if atomic bombs start flying it will be meaningless who started and why.
@dinismantas7265
@dinismantas7265 Месяц назад
The false compassion argument. It is disgusting. You know what would show consideration for Ukrainian lives? Not invading them and not bombing their civilians, you pig.
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
@@pfackaThe objection isnt to the Ukrainians charting their own course - the objection is providing them with our resources.
@pfacka
@pfacka Месяц назад
@@codyvandal2860 That's maybe YOUR objection. But that was not Goran's objection to which I was replying. His objection was disregard of interests of Ukrainians and Americans. But that does matter. You are both wrong on every level, factually, morally ... If you are sincerely curious why ask nicely I will try to explain.
@braxxian
@braxxian Месяц назад
Ukraine didn’t win any great victory in Kharkiv or Kherson. Russia withdrew from those areas when their initial invasion plan stalled. Ukraine simply drove into abandoned land and reclaimed it, they didn’t win some huge battle. As for the Black Seas Fleet. Ukraine could sink the whole thing and it woudn’t change the outcome of the war as this is a ground war. These women are delusional.
@hamza1947
@hamza1947 Месяц назад
Ukraine has recived more than $100bn since 2022. If that's not enough, nothing will be...
@laryxislust6664
@laryxislust6664 24 дня назад
To be Frank it is not enough especially if you are fighting against Russia...if the US wants Ukrainian to win(well it is too late now) If the US had given all their military budget to ukraine at the start of the war they will still not win. money has it's limits since the value of money is significantly less than the power of a gun
@luciusael
@luciusael 25 дней назад
Reason vs emotion. That pretty much sums up this debate.
@crazycat1232
@crazycat1232 Месяц назад
Two women with no military experience at all and clueless about the war.
@Parr_World
@Parr_World Месяц назад
Show the whole debate please
@OpentoDebate
@OpentoDebate Месяц назад
Hi. The full debate link is in the description: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rdtCyiKHtqE.html
@jaygordon4053
@jaygordon4053 24 дня назад
Action speaks louder than words. I wonder if these two women would bet their life-savings on Ukraine winning?
@nkvk2810
@nkvk2810 Месяц назад
The women, what are they talking about ? 😂😂😂😂
@clayjames649
@clayjames649 18 дней назад
I once served in the Chinese army. My military career taught me that modern warfare is a military system versus another military system, not a weapon versus another weapon. Modern armies hope to use the same tank chassis with different combat turrets, the purpose of which is to be able to repair them with the same set of parts when damaged, reducing logistics pressure.
@user-bf9ur1hq6v
@user-bf9ur1hq6v Месяц назад
The military guys don't want war, and the ambassador lady doesn't want diplomacy. Ironic.
@wedihayet9702
@wedihayet9702 Месяц назад
Two women who have never heard the sound of a gun in their life are arguing about a major war in Europe. Wtf
@abyrahman6610
@abyrahman6610 Месяц назад
The lady mentioned Russia lost another vessel. Why doesn't she mention the Ukrainian losses??? 😂😂😂
@lg2058
@lg2058 Месяц назад
What are they (the ladies) writing down, i wonder?
@Sam66519
@Sam66519 Месяц назад
where is the full debate?
@shadowreaver1851
@shadowreaver1851 Месяц назад
Look up Should the US Congress Stop funding the War in Ukraine? by Open Debate. That's the title of the 1 hour debate video and the channel is Open Debate. I hope that helps.
@tokajileo5928
@tokajileo5928 Месяц назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rdtCyiKHtqE.html
@OpentoDebate
@OpentoDebate Месяц назад
Thank you
@OpentoDebate
@OpentoDebate Месяц назад
The link to the full debate is in the clip description: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rdtCyiKHtqE.html
@johnk949
@johnk949 Месяц назад
Why should we sacrifice our economy ?
@melindamaxwell7923
@melindamaxwell7923 25 дней назад
Manpower seems to be essential.
@oliverdelta3507
@oliverdelta3507 Месяц назад
Women.
@gainingvisionsa
@gainingvisionsa 23 дня назад
😂.... this lady is speaking Nonsense
@JiaNuoSu
@JiaNuoSu 18 дней назад
I would be very relieved if most of the western political elite were at that lady’s level but not Prof. Mearsheimer’s😂😂😂😂
@intelsolid1
@intelsolid1 16 дней назад
Who are these women?
@eastafrika728
@eastafrika728 Месяц назад
It's not really the number of troops but the superior tactics of the Russian armed forces
@siviunative5241
@siviunative5241 28 дней назад
Women don't know combat of anyform.We're not the same. Their reasoning on anything us obscured ,just emotional outbursts
@ricardopescador4971
@ricardopescador4971 27 дней назад
So sorry but I just see two blind and two realistic persons. I'm sure just by listening to them you know which is which.
@hgkwbsx7
@hgkwbsx7 7 дней назад
1. If ukraine defeated Russia on the battlefield, Russia would resort to the weaponry it has intentionally refrained from using. 2. The issue with Ukraines ability is man power. You need men to use weaponry. Ukraine simply has far less manpower than the Russians.
@user-hy2br6km8n
@user-hy2br6km8n 27 дней назад
Gets the impression that John Mearsheimer does not quite understand what he is talking about. What does the phrase “significant defeat under Bakhmut ” mean? Bakhmut is a small village, the population is 6 times smaller than Kherson, recaptured by the Ukrainian army. In that battle, the Russian army lost more people than the Soviet Union during 10 years of war in Afghanistan. In fact, today the total area (and population) of Ukrainian territory occupied by the Russians is still less than in April 2022. Where did the professor see the victory of the “second army of the world”? The issue of resources is not only a matter of population, the Russians can mobilize another million people, but the problem is that they have nothing to dress them in and nothing to arm them with, this is not a medieval war.
@user-dv5sn2xv2y
@user-dv5sn2xv2y 27 дней назад
Who lost China? Then comparing the debates about the Korea Civil War and the Vietnam Civil War with the debates about this war, you will find that policy scholars have made many wrong judgments, because they don't confess the war is another socialism war after Communist Manifesto, so Dr. Kissinger makes the right judgment on Ukraine socialism warfare. Since the Democratic Party and the Communist Party have provoked each other and started another socialism war, we should defeat enemy quickly with all weapons, and not be afraid of the enemy's all weapons, because we have to defeat socialism parties. LORD bless us, may LORD has mercy on us.
@indikamudalige8682
@indikamudalige8682 Месяц назад
Those women don't know what is happening on the battlefield Sorry to say. Just telling the lie's of the main steam media.😅
@user-ng3rl4iy7g
@user-ng3rl4iy7g Месяц назад
This debate is not meaningful,Ukraine only has two options,first one is continuing fighting by exploiting all of available resources,otherwise amalgamating in federal Russia again and enduring long-time national oppression.
@Ianews1
@Ianews1 Месяц назад
This old crone said Kherson and Kharkov? That was at the beginning of the war. LOL.
@user-ez6fl5ce9h
@user-ez6fl5ce9h 27 дней назад
It is a lame excuse that Ukraone is losing the war because the US doesn't want to donate weapons that can change the battlefield. Pure madness from the two ladies.
@munirothsok164
@munirothsok164 Месяц назад
If you said, Ukraine doesn’t has enough ammunition it’s wrong because the west provided weapons to Ukraine more than Russia has.
@xxxy9928
@xxxy9928 Месяц назад
in your dreams
@ronrontall6370
@ronrontall6370 Месяц назад
Just before the failed countre offence the Ukranian generals and Zelensky said that they had had received all the weapons they needed to retake Crimea within a few month. So what these two women said at the end of the video that it's failed because of lack of equipment is actually misleading.
@vitorlopes2064
@vitorlopes2064 Месяц назад
This lady is warmongering
@slorter10
@slorter10 Месяц назад
Russia never said that war would take 4 days and in the initial phases of the war due to western interference in refusing negotiation, Russia did not retreat they withdrew to consolidate and built an impregnatable line , mounted an aggressive defense which has destroyed Ukraine's men and equipment! The Naval question never made any dint in Russian naval forces other than being a nuisance that had to be addressed!
@EdSurridge
@EdSurridge Месяц назад
I am still listening but isn't finding women to promote the war a sign of incredible concern from the lobby? Perhaps Mearsheimer should find a women expert in Offensive and Defensive Realism or perhaps I should. He has given a tremendous amount but asking him and others to promote individual women to counter the women fronted pro war / MIC = Military Industrial Complex might help? Shall ask AI...
@Alejandrica
@Alejandrica 24 дня назад
to explain to women nicely. First, the presence of the Russian army in Kharkiv and Kiev does not mean that they were occupied or captured because here there are 4 million Ukrainians in the municipality of Kyiv and Kharkiv about 2 and here Russia cannot put people in power so easily without killing 2 million and Russia will not do such a thing something because it is not doing as Israel did, so it was a fake attack to divide the Ukrainian army and it was easier to capture the Black Sea, so there is no success here from the Ukrainian side, do not rejoice, except Kherson is here and that is the only success for Ukraine. Other Russia is BRICS and BRICS is half a world economy, so don't expect Russia to collapse, and Russia's war industry and army is 10 times bigger.even if Ukraine manages to penetrate deep into Donbass, Luhansk, Zaporizhia and Crimea, it will face an Afghan war for the next 20 years because 8 million Russians or 90% live there. Do you think that Ukraine has enough strength and power for that? , the western powers are losing at the world level, the Russians are chasing them out of Africa and are losing resources, money and power, and BRICS already has a GDP 2-3 times larger than the western powers, so yes, that's it, Ukraine has no chance.
@robertostapenzki549
@robertostapenzki549 Месяц назад
When you have two military men arguing to end war and two people from a think tank preaching war go with the people with experience in war. Eisenhower once said it NATO was around for more than 50 years we didn’t do our job. Meaning within 50 years Europe would have built up a military to defend themselves without US aid
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
The US didnt want that because they prefer a wealthy continent totally dependent on and subervient to them.
@aagomez313
@aagomez313 Месяц назад
This women is only providing talking points.
@seanmoran2743
@seanmoran2743 Месяц назад
These lady’s represent all the failures over American Military Engagements for at least the last 30 odd years and going further back Vietnam
@dinismantas7265
@dinismantas7265 Месяц назад
I detest this Mearsheimer. It would be all good if he just defended his Offensive Realism thesis, as flawed as I think it is. But he takes an active role against Ukraine and that I can't forgive him. Russia is not in good shape. Their economy is degrading every month and the only thing that went wrong for Ukraine was insufficient and inadequate support from the West: - Support comes slowly and with restrictions - Pressured to take a quick win results in a disastrous summer offensive with no air support (even if it had I would not have supported it) - Then months without getting even some ammo. If they get what they need, maybe Ukraine can't get a win, but they can certainly prevent Putin from getting his win and that is a lot.
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
The West does not owe Ukraine anything. Neither equipment, funds, policy or anything else. Mearsheimer doesnt pick sides he reports facts. To say that reporting those facts is to "take an active role against Ukraine" we by like saying that people who reported on Stalin's purges were helping Germany. Absurd.
@dinismantas7265
@dinismantas7265 Месяц назад
@@codyvandal2860 Using an example of the Soviet purges against Mearsheimer's creative "facts" is reaching another level of actual absurdity. I suspect you had to put that example in there to pretend that you are not pro Putin. Mearsheimer does not report any facts, everything he claims needs to get forcibly squeezed in order to fit his "theory", which is no more than a thesis and not even a particularly brilliant one. The West really owes Ukraine. Certainly Europe. Things would get very ugly if Vova Putin could somehow achieve a victory in Ukraine.
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
@@dinismantas7265 This is precisely the problem. Reporting facts about Stalin's crimes does not make one Pro-Hitler. The catastrophic Ukrainian losses *are* facts. As are the continual claims that without Western assistance they will lose. The West does not owe them anything.
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
@@dinismantas7265 This is precisely the problem. Reporting facts about Stalin's crimes does not make one Pro-Austrian Painter. The catastrophic Ukrainian losses *are* facts. As are the continual claims that without Western assistance they will lose. The West does not owe them anything.
@codyvandal2860
@codyvandal2860 Месяц назад
@@dinismantas7265 This is precisely the problem. Reporting facts about Stalin's crimes does not make one Pro-Painter. The catastrophic losses *are* facts.
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