DEBATE: Was Dwight Howards Prime Better Than Nikola Jokic's Prime? l THE ODD COUPLE 

Those Taiwanese fans are getting into Dwight’s head 😂

We must forgot Dwight. Shut ur boy down in the bubble 2020. Had him mad 😂😂

not even close jokic alone can give 60+ points every night

Fox Sports radio is in good hand with people as Rob Parker and Chris Broussard, people who actually know basketball and are respectful.

They are completely different players. Dwight Howard was a really defensive guy that was athletic so it enabled him to score. But Jokic game is all around. With the 3 ball, the passing and the ability to initiate the offense. And not much of a defender. They are so different it's hard to compare them.

I don’t think Jokić could have took that Orlando team to the finals like Dwight

They need to sign D Howard

The big thing is how Dwight's physicality was a big part of his game where Joker will be able to maintain his style and prime for a longer time

Howard is criminally underrated but Jokic's versatility gives him the nod.

Dwight‘s true competition is Nick Cannon with all these different kids he’s popped out through the years

Dwights shoulder caps were like medieval armour

Also, Jokic averages more steals than Howard did in general. And you should never forget, that another aspect of greatness, is how you affect your teammates with your play. Jokic makes his teammates better is far more significant . Then there's triple-doubles. Jokic has more triple-doubles than any player ever in the playoffs except two players all time. Jokic has like 121 career triple-doubles. Howard has one. One

Dwight was great, but it’s very easy to see that Jokic is a basketball savant while Dwight is not and never was. The difference is like the difference between Larry Bird and Paul George.

Dwight was never the same after his back injury. Plus, the Orlando teams were catered to his strengths and weaknesses. He was surrounded with long shooters.

Well Jokic is in the middle of his prime and has accomplished more. Dwight has the defensive player awards, but no MVP or titles.

That’s a rude question, that’s like asking if Clyde drexlers prime was better that MJ’s. Jokic is better than Dwight.

Dwight was basically a much better version of Deandre Jordan in the Clippers. No post game nor shooting

Jokic is to be compared to the greatest big men, while Howard is just with the great big men. This is what Shaq has been saying for years. Dwight had Top 5 talent, but settled on being barely better than Mutombo career-wise.

No one thinks Jokic doesn’t take basketball seriously. Can’t say the same about Dwight.

I swear, when Dwight hit his peak, everytime he jumps I felt like he’s gonna touch the top of the board, with ease too. Crazy stuff: blocks, lobs, everything you want just throw it in the air

Lmao Dwight had zero offensive game! This is a ridiculous question! 😂

I don’t think anyone ever felt like Howard was the best player in the nba at any point in his career, unlike Jokic

He was just a more athletic version of Deandre Jordan. That's all Dwight Howard ever was ....

Nah, DH never led the league in PER in any season, all the best players in the NBA did at one time or the other. Yes DH is great on defense but Jokic’s skill set is a game changer.

Dwight not better than Jokic but Dwight is better than Embiid

For Dwight to say this after Jokic won the chip and dominated the entire playoffs like that is wild. There’s a reason he’s in China. His peak was elite tho but that don’t make him a better player. This a clown discussion

Jokic is far greater. Jokic is an elite defender and by far a better offensive player. Also, Jokic neutralizes Dwight's rim protection because the Joker is a stretch big.

Dwight was a fantastic player in his prime. But I got side with jokic on this one.

People who keep bringing up defense, please understand: in basketball, when you have one of those rare offensive players who does it all at a supreme level, defense isn't really in the equation. Sure it's even better if the player is a great defender, but when you're as good as someone like Jokic, it's just not that a big of a deal - Jokic could be a worse defender than he is, still no basketball team in the universe would choose Howard over him. It's just how it goes when you're that good. Plus, in reality, he's a pretty good, smart defender.

The only reason the is close is if you rate Defense. Most the younger generation don't care about defense that's why alot of the people considered the best players are awful defensive players like Trey Young. Dwight was the best defensive player in the league for 3 to 5 years. While averaging 20+ pts and 14+ rebounds

Dwight Howard was my favorite basketball player until he hurt his back and was traded to the Lakers. He had an impact on the game as a big man. Orlando was his best run.

Howard is somehow a much better defender despite the fact Jokic guarded AD much better than this season's DPOY.

Dwight Howard is one of greatest basketball players of all time. 5x first team All-NBA, 3x defensive player of the year. Whooped Lebron's ass in his prime. Not sure why the basketball community hates this man. He was Ben Wallace on steroids. Just an unbelievable talent.

Rob can't get a full sentence out without Chris interrupting 😂

Jokic lead his team and more versatile Dwight Howard didn’t

Dwight Howard was definitely a slightly taller version of Alonzo Mourning. I feel if Zo started in the early 2000s like Dwight, he’d have a similar career. Zo had to suffer thru the gauntlet of great centers in the 90s. Dwight didn’t have that smoke in the 2000s. Shaq was getting older. Boogie was the only other great big, I can think off. Ben Wallace was like 6’9, but not an offensive threat either.

Dude trying to give himself credit for not being able to hit a three😂

He is underrated but his lack of offensive game will most give the nod to Joker especially in this era

Saying he thinks he’s better than someone is “hating” according to Rob. Then what does he call what he does to Tom Brady? He goes on 10 minute rants about how overrated Brady is.

Skill vs athleticism.. when you get the perfect mix 90s 6x champ MJ.. skill+will+minimum athleticism=Bird

Dwight Howard deserved to be in the top 75 easily.

Dwight was better than ppl give him credit for. There was a period in time when he was the no doubt best Center in the nba for about a 5 yr period. However, his peak does not compare to what Jokic has done the last 3 seasons. But damn dwight was a beast. don’t yuck on the guy.

prime dwight struggled in the finals against pau and bynum, no post moves, no mid range just leaping abilityand strength!

Howard is underrated historically. I think he was in an in between area between the shaq/hakeem/ewing/admiral Era and the jokic/embiid/bam/kat/sabonis Era. He was at the beginning of a change in the game and he played in a system that had 2 to 4 shooters on the court at any time if you look atbthe make up of his team (turkoglu, Lewis, Nelson, jj, etc). He really need more post moves but never one to go to work. Not to.mention he wasn't a puck and roll player which I think he did himself a disservice with but understandably, most roll guys are now ONLY roll guys. I think Howard never had a coach that could really develop more polished parts of his game

But that Howard would've locked jokic up and Dwight would've went at and kept jokic foul trouble trying to hold that man at that time lol Dwight the reason they beat them in the bubble

This should not even be a discussion. DH and Jokic should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Jokic is leagues ahead of Howard. PERIOD

Not getting Kobe's stamp of approval sealed his legacy sadly. Once Kobe said he was not a serious cat, it was over...

People say Dwight is underrated, I’m from the Orlando area and while there was a stretch orlando was relevant due to him mainly he also benefited from a system that was so ahead of its time with a stretch 4 and a lot of shooting in general. If anyone is underrated it’s the general management and SVG for building a team that played analytically better than other teams. Dwight deserves the credit for his defense and a rim runner but the gap between him and guys like embiid Jokic shaq ect are sooo distant. Dwight was more in line with a guy like Yao Ming, mutumbo, and as Brou said Alonzo mourning. He just benefitted so well from a stretch of good health and a perfect scheme. There’s a reason he fell off a cliff playing with Kobe because he never was a win first dedicated heart of a champion type of player. He cared more about playing to have fun then playing to win and the silliness in Taiwan proves that even they’re calling him out for playing outside his naturally gifted game

The funny thing about comparing players of the past is you had to had been there.. All people have is stats to compare but you had to have watched the dive on the floor, the last minute steal, game changing block..

Reading some of these comments shows you how underrated Dwight is

Centers all time 1. Hakeem Olajuwon 2. David Robinson Before the Injury 3. Shaquille O'neal 4. Tim Duncan 5. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 6. Moses Malone 7. Nikola Jokic 8. Patrick Ewing 9. Bill Russell 10. Wilt Chamberlain The next group in some order Mourning Gilmore Sampson Howard Embiid Parish Laimbeer M. Gasol Daugherty Sabonis Laineer Reed Walton Mutombo Sikma B. Wallace Porzingis Thurmond Cowens Ming Lopez Bellamy

I’m taking prime Dwight over Joke. Also it depends on what the team dynamic looks like.

Jokic just concentrates on winning and remains humble. Respect to jokic

Look at who Jokic won a championship with- Jamal Murray and Aaron Gordon. Meanwhile Dwight couldn't win one with Kobe or James Harden and had to hitch a ride on the LeBron and AD train when he was washed to even win one. Dwight didn't get the opportunities because he had no offensive game. During his prime with the Magic, a Dwight post-up was the best outcome for the defence. Watching Dwight post up was painful- 10 seconds of trying to back his man down only to throw up a clumsy jump hook and brick it. Jokic's teammates loved playing with him, Dwight's teammates couldn't stand him and once he was no longer athletic, teams couldn't get rid of him quick enough- Atlanta, Charlotte, Washington, Lakers and the 76ers all got rid of him after 1 season. Dwight Howard is one of the least liked players in the league. Always complaining about touches when he had zero offensive game.

First of all, Broussard actually eating and picking his teeth during a video podcast…amazing. Disgusting. Secondly, comparing Dwight to Jokić is obscene. Dwight was a joke. Jokić is a savant. Dwight was stupid (b-ball IQ or otherwise), selfish, wildly immature, incredibly childish, incredibly cringe-y, absolutely DID NOT make his teammates better, had no mental toughness, and was the opposite of clutch. Jokić is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of all the above. Dwight has maybe the worst intangibles of any player who ever (at least for a short time) was a “superstar.” Jokić has some of the absolute best. He’s like an even more preternaturally offensively intelligent version of Tim Duncan, intangibles-wise. Fundamentals-wise? Dwight has defense on Jokić. That’s it. Jokic absolutely pummels Dwight on the offensive end. Obliterates him. Not even REMOTELY close. Meanwhile, Jokic averages 11.5 RPG from ‘19-‘23. Dwight averaged 14 RPG from ‘08-‘12. So yeah, Dwight was a better rebounder, but his advantages over Jokić in rebounding combined with his advantage over Jokić on defense can’t come anywhere close to how gigantic Jokić’s advantages are regarding offense and intangibles. Finally, Jokić is a winner. Dwight? Nope This comparison is laughable. Absurd.

I believe Jokic is more valuable in any error. But let’s not forget Dwight Howard at one point was routinely smacking shots into the third row of the crowd

jokic is on another level

For me, it’s really close. But I would give it to Jokic because of his versatility offensively and typically, offense is what makes a player a “great player.” But Dwight is definitely in my Top 75. He was played.

Defense makes a team better, 3 straight DPoy, yaw on bath salts, he took Lebron out and lost to Kobe...... yaw crazy, he took ORLANDO to the finals.. who was the. 2nd best Magic player with him?

It's weird that nobody will give Dwight Howard his credit.

Dwight you weren't getting many post up opportunities cuz you had no post moves dude

They just said Dwight was Phenomenal Defensively.. and Good Offensively! Just using what they said in this Video... that means he was Better than Jokic.. or atleast its Debatable.. They are literally Contradicting themselves! Think about it..

All I remember is Shaq being mad as hell that Dwight started using the superman nickname and bashed him everytime he got the chance and Shaq gladly relinquished the superman nickname to Giannis . Jovik accomplished more in the last three seasons then Dwight did his entire career . Dwight went to LA and played with near prime Kobe and couldn't make it work.

Not even close. Don’t really think Dwight is being serious about this narrative. Jokic literally makes the right play every time. Not to mention, he likes girls

It's actually close because of Howard's defense vs Jokers assist but Joker did get the chip. Howard knocked off the Nike puppet Kobe Bron Finals but they lost to the Lakers.

jokic is in the middle of his prime so this is a stupid conversation to have now. He's already surpassed Howard by a mile tbh. He's a 2× mvp, 5× all NBA (3 first team) and lastly he's a NBA champion and finals MVP. I'm sorry but this isn't a competition

Problem is Dwight Howard underperformed..which sounds ridiculous considering his accolades. Goes to show you how much potential he had

I want to say this in the 2019 season when Dwight was with the Lakers he shut Jokcic down everytime especially in the playoffs. Check it out and I’m a Sixers and Clippers fan. Chris how can Joker be better if Dwight was shutting him down in his latter years? He wouldn’t have had a chance in his Orlando years

i just think they both underrated.. but Howard didnt have to go there and try to talk down on Jokic's skillset and accomplishments.. Howard gets underrated when he wasnt on the 75 players.. Jokic is underrated coz people keep questioning his greatness as a player

Jokic TEAM could beat Dwights with jus 10p of Joker BECAUSE he is that dominant and important in every TEAM aspect of the game. Remember, BB is a team game, not 1 on 1 ;)

Dwight Howard’s resume(NBA) - NBA champion💍 (2020) - 8× NBA All-Star (2007-2014) - 5× All-NBA First Team (2008-2012) - All-NBA Second Team (2014) - 2× All-NBA Third Team (2007, 2013) - 3× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (2009-2011) - 4× NBA All-Defensive First Team (2009-2012) - NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2008) - NBA All-Rookie First Team (2005) - 5× NBA rebounding leader (2008-2010, 2012, 2013) - 2× NBA blocks leader (2009, 2010) - NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion (2008) - Mvp finishes: 2008(5th),2009(4th),2010(4th), 2011(2nd)2012(7th) Dwight Howard RS career averages - 15.6 PPG - 11.8 RPG(22nd) - 1.3 APG - 0.9 SPG - 1.8 BPG(34th) - 2.7 TPG - 58.7/21.4/56.7% - 31.8 MPG Dwight Howard Playoff career averages - 15.3 PPG - 11.8 RPG(23rd) - 1.2 APG - 0.8 SPG - 2.0 BPG(20th) - 2.6 TPG - 58.9/14.3/54.8% * Only player in NBA history to lead the league in blocks, rebounding and field goal percentage in the same season (2009-10)[28]Averaged 2.8 blocks and 13.2 rebounds per game, and shot 62.1% from the field. * Only player in NBA history to lead the league in blocks and rebounding in more than one season (2008-09-2009-10) * One of two players to record at least 30 points and 15 rebounds while shooting perfectly from the field in a game Including Wilt Chamberlain, who recorded 34 points on 14-14 shooting from the field, 27 rebounds (and 11 blocks, not officially counted) in 40 minutes, Los Angeles Lakers vs. Detroit Pistons, on March 11, 1969 For more stats like this,highlights,lowlights, updates and debates follow my NUMBERSTATSFAX PAGE ON IG,TIKTOK🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 ‬

The disrespect on Jokic is unreal, Dwight was nowhere near as good as Jokic is. He can only dream of having even half the talent of Jokic.

Simple Dwight was the better rebounder, defense, shot blocker so and averaged a double double so just remember he lead nba in blocks 3 straight years, 5 straight years defensive player, so he wasnt a offensive killer

I'd take Bill Laimbeer Defensively over soft Dwight howard

Dwight certainly looked the part but he had a very limited arsenal on offense. Great defender, mediocre offensively.

Broussard is right on the money with D12 being viewed as a clown or a silly person. Rob tryna act like that was a reach smh.

I never understood guys acting like "doing it with twos instead of threes" should get you more credit. Being able to hit threes is a skill, so why should you get knocked for that?

i can respect that statement by Howard but No....

Joker has better offensive skillset. Dwight had better defensive. 👍🏽

So no one noticed that Rob Parker has on an “Magic City” Hat 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Dwight's spin to the basket was unstoppable. Just didn't make as many.

Howard's value went down when he wanted out of Lakers because he didn't want to be a leader, then he returns yrs later to come off the bench to play with Lebron,

Dwight Howard was playing all time great defense and still give 20 points a game

Can we just stop this? It’s a ridiculous a comparison.

Jokic is a better passer and he makes his teammates better on the floor.

Jokic can out rebound Dwight if he wants, a draw at the least

C'mon... Dwight is not even close to Jokic.

Why is he speaking on Joker? These players been hating on Joker a lot the past year.

Different era..... Really hard to compare.....

Dwight is under appreciated but the summer lull of slow news cycle is strong. 😂 keep reaching for topics. We can’t already be scratching the bottom of the barrel 😂

I just don’t understand why defense is always used to discredit a player. We knock players for having all-star and all-NBA selections without a ring, but somehow having 10 or 15 all-defense selections without a ring is better than winning a championship. It makes no sense, Dwight is a top 75 player all time, no doubt, but for all of his defensive prowess, the guy never won a championship until he became an afterthought on the Lakers, his second time around with the team.

Dwight wasn’t a “winner.” He didn’t take things seriously like someone of his talent should. Always either goofing off or sulking about something. We’ve all played with guys like that.

Shawn Kemp was MORE than Dwight

Howard didn't have the post footwork

Don’t act like Dwight wasn’t a beast in his prime 3Xs Defensive Player of the Year Award 2009-2011. Several more accolades. Dwight definitely should of been NBA top 75. Especially when Reggie Miller and Dame are top 75.

That man Dwight Howard had Stuff blocks on double takeover

Dwight is just underrated and under appreciated plain and simple and should be at Top 75 player all time !! MVP caliber and great big men in his prime and took Orlando to their only finals besides shaq

Dwight has to understand he didn’t get post up attempts because he had zero post up game . Hell , he had zero Offensive game besides rebounding and lobs …he’s not Jokic level this is laughable

Just do the match up and u ll see who is better

Dwight had access to Kareem, Hakeem and McHale and couldn't improve his post game. That said, I think he was better than AD is. Joker is another league.