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DEBATING CHRISTIANS on their “CULTURAL CONTEXT” EXCUSE 

Miklos Jako
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I argue that God should not be accommodating Himself to culture.

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12 сен 2024

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@benfranklin2392
@benfranklin2392 8 месяцев назад
If you have to look at context for justification for slavery from the bible, then can you really say that the bible is a basis for objective morality?
@zacharymcleod460
@zacharymcleod460 8 месяцев назад
The bible also mentions polygamy, racism, and murder, but your couldn't honestly say the Bible validates or endorses slavery.
@benclark4823
@benclark4823 8 месяцев назад
I have a question do *YOU* believe in the future that *YOU* would be judged by your actions that by the people of the future might consider to be immoral? For example let’s say that in the future that people will consider the eating of non-processed meat to be a immoral practice?? And if so doesn’t that mean that they (your future ancestors) have the same “right” to judge *YOU* in the past for your actions the same way *YOU* would judge the Biblical god for his??? 🤷
@benjaminjenkins2384
@benjaminjenkins2384 8 месяцев назад
Damn right they do. They should judge me, so they can learn from my mistakes
@2994485
@2994485 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, quite possibly, we might be legitimately judged by a future generation, depending on the specific issue. Eating meat might be such an issue. What are you implying? That we have no right to judge slavery as immoral - the “cultural context” excuse - or the Christian version of God as immoral for condoning slavery? (Lev 25:44-46) I think we have every right to condemn immorality, and reject any version of God who condones it. Commenter benjaminjenkins has it right. Are you suggesting that we have no right to judge false Gods? The point for me is that while people make moral mistakes, a valid God would NOT do so. I am not “judging God”; I am judging WHICH God is valid, the Christian one or the general one I believe in the probability of. A God far more rational and moral than the Christian God. My God never said to slaughter neighboring tribes and take their land.
@benjaminjenkins2384
@benjaminjenkins2384 8 месяцев назад
@@2994485 you put it way better than I did, but I feel sorry you put so much time into answering this bad faith objection
@2994485
@2994485 8 месяцев назад
@@benjaminjenkins2384 Oh, OK. I wasn’t clear on whether you were arguing for, or against, more enlightened future generations having the right to criticize past generations. I guess you were actually agreeing with me. 😊
@benjaminjenkins2384
@benjaminjenkins2384 8 месяцев назад
@@2994485 Oh yeah, my response was to the last paragraph the commenter wrote, people in the future have every right to judge us
@L-8
@L-8 8 месяцев назад
Looks interesting, but who are you both and what was the context of this debate/discussion?
@2994485
@2994485 8 месяцев назад
Just a one-on-one discussion with a pastor. I try to keep things anonymous, because I find otherwise Christians do not want to talk to me; they do not normally want to be recorded. So I find my best tack is to reconstruct the conversation, by my notes and memory, and present things, in a scripted dialogue, by topic rather than by individual identified Christians. This one was mostly one guy, but my other videos are a mixture of different people. The important point is that these ARE the Christian positions, attitudes, and defenses which consistently come up when I talk with them. www.confrontingbelievers.com/
@L-8
@L-8 8 месяцев назад
@@2994485 OK cool