debunking the MALE FANTASY - candid girlfriend, cool girl, manic pixie dream girl 

Being chronically online is giving everyone in society main character syndrome.

I am gen X and I think what they are talking about in my generation's lexicon is "the girl next door" .I always used to wonder about this. Men always said they wanted her. She has no personality that they want to get to know. She is just cute enough, not complex, has no problems and is just there, next door, ready to be projected onto.

I'm an old lady. Took me 9 minutes to "get" what "candid girl" means. I get it, I think. Candid Girl is chosen for the snapshot moment. A candid. As in candid picture. There's no caring for the female, not in any meaningful way. It's about the candid snapshot and the story he is building.

The thing about candid girlfriend is she probably has thoughts and feelings and other things going on that her boyfriend doesn’t even realize

The issue with the subway girl's video is that it started off with her criticizing the men who pick girls like "Emily", but then veered off into a disdainful criticism of Emily herself. It kind of diluted her point/made it confusing who her criticism was directed at.

Subway girl was for sure judging the girl. For SURE. But it’s true guys want to be the only interesting ones in a relationship. The one with “cool tastes.”

I was a manic pixie dream girl. I’m AuDHD and she was the only female representation that was anywhere similar to me. It was the worst type of personality to develop. An empty vessel just waiting for the broken man. It was such a terrible time. I was so young and foolish.

Everyone wants a manic pixie dream girl until she breaks character 😂 That's so true. I'm AuADHD and men obsess over me until they see the genuinely difficult debilitating aspects of Autism and ADHD.

The term “this one” is saying, replaceable. When you fail to recognize a person’s irreplaceable value you are replaceable.

The way the cool girl monologue changed me as a person

As a woman named Emily who actually likes pomegranates, I am struggling not to take this personally.😂

Can I just say that nobody is "boring"?! Nobody is boring. We're living, breathing, diverse humans with a ton of experiences. What group A might not find interesting, group B might be absolutely feral for, even if it's super niche! We are not boring because we are alive. We are interesting by default, even if others may disagree :P

The way I giggle gleefully whenever I hear her say, "No nuance nelly" is just problematic at this point.

Can we please stop with the "'Subway Girl' is just too smart for TikTok."? Sure, she identified a legitimate problem with men and the way they think of women and use them, but then she went on to direct her frustration, jealousy, and criticism at the kind of women they date. Worse, she decided to take what she saw on these men's social media as proof that the women they like to date are air headed, and have no real likes or personalities. She was basically calling these women stupid, and criticizing them for being basic. Honestly, the fact that she said "They're taking all the hot men." makes her sound like a pick-me herself. EVERYONE, STOP DIRECTING YOUR ANGER AND FRUSTRATION WITH MEN AGAINST WOMEN!

As a teenager I always felt like I wasn’t enough compared to these “women” as I didn’t fit either the “manic pixie dream girl” or the “cool girl”. But I later on realized she is a fantasy. That’s why they always seemed to “mysterious” and sexy (but not too sexy!), yet always quirky & fun and up to drink whiskey & watch sport with the boys. She isn’t real.

saying a "girl's girl" while dragging another woman is hilarious. that girl is so annoying

Summer from "500 Days of Summer" just sprang to mind. Tom never really saw her, just what she meant to him, what she brought into his life, what she made him appear to be as a guy with someone like her. I also remember the reaction to Summer's character when the movie first came out was blistering to say the least. Everyone thought she was a heartless bitch and erroneously thought she was another example of a Manic Pixie Dream Girl, mostly because she was played by Zooey Deschanel. Summer was actually a break from that archetype for the very reason she was so hated. She breaks up with Tom for HERSELF because she doesn't love him the way he needs. Fortunately, much like "Jennifer's Body", after a decade most people realized Tom was the asshole all along. Even the actor who played him said people really got the ending wrong for not recognizing his character, Tom, was the absolute worst. All along Summer had a vibrant inner life but it was obfuscated by Tom's perspective. She was just a woman trying to figure her shit out, not trying to be some sad boy's muse. She's just a woman trying to figure her own life out for herself. Good for her.

I often forget that being a “cool girl” doesn’t serve me in any away , but it’s so common that it’s really easy to fall for it over and over again

The bear video of yours is perfect, here in brazil, a extreme disaster is happening on the south of the country, and a lot of people are d1ing because of the extreme levels of water. They had to put both men, women and children together in a shelter. I guess you know what happened after this... More than 44 men were arrested for r4pe in less than 4 days on the shelter. They had to make a separate shelter in the middle of the tragedy, for the women and the children. There is nothing that can convince me that men are good, the bear girls are right.

Commenting at the 15:00 mark; I think the overall point was that this idea of "Emily" is presented as completely inoffensive in every aspect of her being. She's perceived as not "too much" at any one thing: her shoulder-length hair, the nondescript way she dresses, her art history-but-not-an-artist education, her interest in the broad topic of "good pottery" and liking "pomegranate", even her old-fashioned, girlish name. It's a cookie-cutter impression of A Girlfriend in the most generic sense. She needs nothing from her boyfriend, she would never cause a scene.

A lot of men really think they're some super interesting, funny, talented dude who's 1 second away from blowing up and getting super popular and rich, and they fantasize about a nameless, faceless woman who will be their unpaid assistant through it all. I blame comedy podcasts and youtubers. They get this idea from stand up comedians and Casey Neistat types. They see toads like Bert Kreischer who have a wife and kids and think "yeahhh that's the life, I travel around being cool, making money, and cheating with 20 year olds while my hot wife enjoys the big house, my money, and does all the work raising the kids!" Nevermind the fact that those guys are miserable addicts who get divorced 100% of the time. I'm holding out for the wholesome guy who thinks I'M the funny rich one and who brings his own charms and riches to the table, for US to travel and enjoy life TOGETHER. There aren't many podcasters or youtubers who role model that life, I guess.

This is why I can no longer stand modern romance books. Even in fiction written BY women FOR women, a trope I see that is absolutely rampant is the grumpy guy x sunshine girl. Essentially this is the female characters in their own stories still acting as a prop for the male love interest who is emotionally stunted and treats women as trash. Despite this, the sunshine girl is always happy, always excited, always uplifting the men and pushing them to be better people. It is infuriating. Is this genuinely what woman want? Is this really what we are supposed to be fantasising about? Being stock characters who are happy to have scraps of attention from angry, violent, controlling men and devote ourselves endlessly to them all while never being allowed to feel anger and upset ourselves? I’m done with it.

Honestly I feel like better examples would be the euphoria girls. Just always down to have sex, always comes back when they're mistreated, never wants a relationship, always down and available, needs the male protagonist for no real reason etc

I think the operative word here is 'young'. 'Young' Emily might get the hot guys but '30+' Emily will be single. Take it from Granny. When Emily starts coming into her own, outside of having a partner and family, she starts to see the tricks she fell for and will set boundaries. That partner won't be happy about her self-actualization and finds a 'Younger' Emilia. The next partner will like her for who she is, not what she could be.

As an autistic ADHD woman I always had men project MPDG on me simply because I wasn't your average girl. However because I am autistics and didn't give a f- about other people's opinion, I can attest to how bothered and even angry men* get when you veer "off script". Over the years I've learned exactly what buttons to push early on to repel men* that see me as an archetype rather than a person and that has saved me from dealing with a lot of worthless men*. I just feel sorry for women trying to win these worthless people over by pretending to be a caricature of an ideal woman.

hi! i'm ponkzie, the creator with the video you included at 5:22 ♡ i love your commentary, and i feel like it's also really important to know as well that "subway girl" is a comedian! it was a bit. so if you're in the comments stressing out or getting upset, remember it's ok to have discourse about any piece of media (including this one), but she wasn't being genuinely bitter and you will be ok!

Candid girl has had a name for years. It’s called a Plain Jane. There’s nothing wrong with a Plain Jane, but they do tend to be with a specific type of man. It’s his show and life. She just conforms to it, quite easily, because she’s the personification of beige.

What subway girl talks about is so true for many men in “creative industries”. How often have I not seen “this one” to refer to their girlfriends? Doesn’t she have a name dude? I think these men do not want to annonce that they have a partner because they “do not like to show off” yet they like to show off in this off hand way. She most likely is very interesting but they don’t want her to outshine him yet she is there to raise his status. And if she actually doesn’t have hobbies & interests she might have been socialized to stop in favor of a man. It wasn’t unusual when I was young that a lot of women stopped doing their own hobbies in favor of doing to watch their boyfriend’s hockey practice and slowly mold themselves to fit the desire of men. It’s sad. You do not need unique hobbies and interests but we all have things we love doing & that interests us, and we should keep it going. And if we gave up we should rekindle our passions because we deserve to live our best life. ❤

As an asexual/aromantic 40yr old woman, I'm still getting so much value from your videos! Keep shining, dear Elle 🖤

about posting their gf on insta its so interesting take, like in russian community when a man doesn't post his gf the gf sees it as a red flag, they start thinking he's cheating on her or he secretly has a wife and kids lol so its a red flag instantly for rus women

I think only mediocre guys want bland girls. Most intelligent men want an intelligent partner. That has been my experience.

Gone Girl was pretty much women's Fight Club. A morally reprehensible main character with a totally valid take on women's lived experience.

You're the best! I'm so glad I found your RU-vid. I'm happily married and it's wonderful to see women encouraging other women not to settle for bs. Thank you!

Also... What if Subway Girl was Emily at one point in her life 😳

Idk...the fact that only 30-50% of people have internal monologues kind of changed how I see other people lol. So I kind of get where subway girl is coming from. But the irony here is she described candid gf with shoulder-length brown hair and comfortable clothes, and that is literally her. 😅

Heck, they'll even hook up with a robot (side eyed step-ford wives) the male fantasy is so scary

Pick me is never picked!!! The ones men really value and want are the ones that don't submit. They like the sexy ones. They need to fear lose you, if they know you will forgive a cheat or will go for ab*se, they'll do it (and the good ones will not want you). That's why independence is so important, you have to be able to grab your handbag and say your goodbyes at any time.

Elle, I'll never stop being impressed at how well you dissect ideas. Thank you today as well.

It's funny that she picked on pomegranate as that's what persephone ate wasn't it, that's why she couldn't go to ''summer''. She's stuck forever with Hades. So, don't eat the pomegranate. A symbol of losing yourself in marriage.

Tbh when i heard that description i was like "oh so kinda like me but gaming" and i realized. It gave me the ick of objectification and how men view me as a stock item to just be like "look she like videogames and doesn't wear makeup!! I don't keep social media!! Look how quirky" when really I'm just neurodivergent, I adore horror movie analysis, I'll yap about fictional characters and latch onto vaguely autistic pixels like my life depends on it. But to a man i look like a candid gf. I hate that for me, subway girl is right Also shout-out to brainrot core !!! I was raised conservative so your videos and other women uplifting women really helps break some of the pick me behavior i ended up with in my childhood thank u bestie!!! ❤

"To be a woman is to perform"... daamn manifestelle that is such a perfect crux of today's feminism. She is so aware of how complex our existence is. It is So true how sad it is when you realize most men will no, do not see you as an individual with thoughts. God, I hope that is changing. I think it is.

She's funny but I appreciate sarcasm. It's just a humorous version of saying what we all know. Men make sure they are the main characters in their own lives. The girl type she is describing is okay with that. It is cringe when you see it. Does not make you a hater. It makes me sad and desire for ALL women to stop being a side kick and start being the main character.

I feel like the perfect example of this is in The Bear. Claire is the ultimate depiction of the "dream girl" (albeit less manic and pixie) that men want: impressive job title (yet somehow never busy working at her demanding job), always available to listen to/help the MALE main character, extreme pick-me behavior (not taking the hint after getting a fake number and then insisting on getting asked out), approachably/accessibly physically attractive, but without any personal conflict or character development, and easily tossed aside at the end. At first I just thought this was a weakness on behalf of an otherwise fantastic show, but when I started seeing guys on dating apps writing they they're "looking to meet Claire from The Bear" I was so disappointed. As an ACTUAL resident physician, like her character, there is no effing way I would ever have the time to make myself so available to a male individual and to minimize my whole personality down to just a few entertaining quirks, and I would NEVER confront a man who didn't want to give me his number and make him ask me out, like I know how to take a hint. And yet here I am... getting overlooked by this fictional character, or maybe expected to act like her. I hate it here.

I was this girl and I'm just gonna say it can stem from pick-me behavior and narcisstic men. I was interesting before getting into a relationship with my ex boyfriend, but became incredibably boring and almost like a trad wife. I was an accessory, a trophy, not a person. I was more like a shiny toy that he could show off to everyone rather than his living, breathing girlfriend with her own hopes and dreams and aspirations. I'm in a better relationship with a guy that actually loves me for me. I can literally do whatever I want. (even wear heels as a 5'10 femme without him throwing a fit about it.)

If your hobbies and intrests are predominantly masculine you should express your opinions freely and don't give way if a guy challenges your taste in said hobby. That usually helps to distinguish men who respect you from men looking for a "cool girl". And don't let them tell you that you're "argumentative" or "emotional". No, you are just not a pushover!

Subway girl got the definition of "pick me girl" so wrong and in doing so was also behaving like a pick me by putting down another woman, painting this whole portrait of her and repeatedly saying she has no thoughts in her head. Fun fact, I know girls like she described, and fun fact, just like every other girl and woman, they have incredible depth, a LOT going on in their close personal life, and have A LOT going on in their heads. The definition of a "pick me girl" is about being male centric and tearing down other girls for male validation in hopes you'll be "picked" hence the name. Hence the problem with subway girl, as she spends the video scorning and tearing down another woman, delighting at the validation she gets as the man agrees and laughs along with her. Now here's the thing, she still has a point, but she's got it twisted. Men DO like having a girlfriend that they view as blank, because then they can fill in all the gaps, create a persona and identity for her that they like, all while acting like she's some sort of deep one of a kind artistic muse that's not like other girls. So funnily enough I do get subway girl's point, but she's not giving Girl's Girl vibes with this tangent.

Whataboutme people really are the bane of my existence

My stepmom is a candid girl. I admit I used to think she was boring, but it’s just because she is so practical. She has a rich inner life of course everyone does, but then she goes out into the world and builds it. She has a 30+ long career in Jewish nonprofit work, she dotes on our Russian blue cat even though she used to be worried about shedding, and she LOVES SLOTHS. She’s not just a woman who likes sloths. She really thinks so deeply, but for so long I never took the time to notice

Gone Girl made me feel so seen as a woman

I had to learn to turn myself off. I'm intentionally boring, have no opinions, don't draw attention, and I don't complain about anything. I also have started to wear a wedding ring. It works well. Don't have a personality but have boundaries.

Subway-Lady sounds exactly like a nerdy millennial Cool Girl from the late 2000s. That’s who pop-culture conditioned you to be when you were incapable of emulating Natalie Portman’s character from “Garden State”.

Realize that you even benefit men you never met. I've experienced this in my own life and heard about it from other women. Whatever the good, generous, loving men learn and gain from their relationships with us, they pass it on to their guy friends and family. We truly are the source 👑 and this is why it's important to protect ourselves from parasitic men* who will drain us and use what we give them to destroy the world around them. For the greater good, we must pour only into ourselves and the people who pour into us 💞

I feel like I'm actively participating in a group chat while listening to Elle's videos.

I like pomegranate (yes, it's my entire personality) and knitting. I have shoulder length hair. I also don't care about beauty standards all that much. Some aspects of me are "Emily". I think the problem with an "Emily" isn't her likes or hobbies. It's that she can't embody anything else other than being inoffensive or not challenging. An "Emily" doesn't sound challenging. She doesn't sound like she questions ideas or will have hard boundaries. She doesn't sound like a vixen. She doesn't sound like a scholar or even wife material. She doesn't sound like she reads Bell Hooks, makes her boyfriend read it too and then have they discussions about it. She sounds very safe . She sound like the literal embodiment of "a girlfriend". Also, most influencers are "Emilys".

Subway girl seems confused in her argument…the specific interests outlined as boring seemed problematic and anti femme? I recall a video from Elle about how it’s okay to be ‘basic’ and subway girl seems like the type to slap the basic label on any one who doesn’t fit her idea of interesting and cool. She also didn’t criticize the male fantasy enough than the woman who seemed to want to fit into it. BTW, we should all know by now that humans are contradicting characters whose view can contradict their outward appearance. Some present like an Emily but challenge the social norms and try to live an authentic life. That is when the fantasy eventually fades for these broken men.

Must Read: I'm sorry but Subway girl is a pick me, just not the conservative kind of pick me we're used to. Her rant sounds like she likes a guy who is in a relationship with this "Emily" (I think she knows who Emily is in person). Her rant about the type of women men pick and naming them "Emily" is no different from some incel men complaining about the type of men women pick and naming them "Chad". Her rant literally started off as her attempting to disguise herself as a girl's girls and then she went on to attack women who seem to have a different personality and hobbies from her. I feel like we talk a lot about the conservative pick me, sometimes we touch on the tomboy pick me, but never the liberated pick me. They all are awful to other women as they judge them for making different choices and enter into malicious competitions with other woman who share the same hobbies and characteristics but actually are girl's girls

I saw the subway girl digging into candid girl as her saying: "Do you really want that in a relationship as a man?". To me it sounded like she was describing her as off putting, because someone who is used as a blank canvas by a man shouldn't be attractive for a man. She kept looking to the guy as confirmation "you know what I am talking about". In my opinion she was implying the the bf was weird for wanting someone like that, but she also painted the bf as dumb: reffering to her as "that one", finding her like for pomegranate "quirky". She is trying to make candid girl sound off putting, because she should be off putting to man those man

I’m laughing so hard at Subway girl, because there is a book I read with a character in it named Emily who is mousy, has shoulder length hair, is quirky and she got the hot guy in the end because he was dating her hot roommate but said hot roommate was “taking so long to get ready for their dates” and so he started talking to Emily. She’s either read the book or she wrote the book.😂😂😂

Plot twist: the Subway Girl just has a crush on Emily. She just doesn't realize she's bisexual yet.

"Women are status" YES! I learned this the hard way with an ex. He was the one that was a little dull, which was fine, but then I found out he was bragging about me with the male partners of my friends. And not just little comments, full on "you know you want her and are jealous of me" I was SO DISGUSTED I left his ass. Brag now!

I totally agree with you. I've seen vloggers use their gfs as thumbnails in their RU-vid videos as clickbaits. Then when he has a huge following and gets famous and more access to money and girls, he takes his followers with him, leaving his ex gf with zero. It's like the ex gf helped him with his career and when it takes off, he dumps her.

I think I heard my brain explode in this class holy moly. This class reminded me of how I learned to live by inspiration rather than aspiration. Rather than aspire to be a woman, moreso a certain type of woman, I train myself to be inspired by other women. Did she do gardening? Hey, I'd like to try that in my own way. Oh, did she make a recipe? Let me recreate that with ingredients I can eat. Authenticity and acceptance. Be yourself, love yourself and that is enough Also, that last bit about 'what about me?' Let me remind you of this iconic line from Helen Parker from the Incredibles, "It's NOt abOUt yOU!!!"

I never saw gone girl, but that monologue is just read really hit me in my heart being that pick me or whatever manic pixie whatever nonsense I hated it and now I am 44 and happy to figure out who I really am. It’s cool because it’s like a second of age, but it sucks. I wish I had a long time ago.

i was actually in my cool manic pixie dream girl era when i read gone girl but it just never clicked for me how big of a eye opener it was back then. reading through amy's monologue again gave me literal goosebumps

The girl from the subway is spot on though, guys from NYC love that type especially with the art history and niche pomegranate obsession.

Wait isn't patient zero literally the first confirmed case of an outbreak, so subway girl is calling "Emily" a pick-me She also said that she had no thoughts, not no conscious thought a bout how she was perceived, no thoughts

As someone who doesn’t post anything except dog pics on instagram, it’d be easy to assume things about me. About my hobbies and interests (or lack thereof). Nope, I just don’t want everyone knowing what I do in my spare time. It’s MY time, and if people judge me for what they don’t know about me, that says a lot about them.

The way she said "can I touch your skin?" in that subway video gave me the ick. It reminds me of those girls in highschool who would ask to touch my hair so they could then giggle and make a condescending coment. It's like they can't quite believe you're a real human. Subway girl doesn't really want to get to know 'Emily', she just wants to have more material for the next time she makes this joke.

Now THIS is the nuance and perspective that was missing in the original videos 🙌🙌 You can tell that Elle reads because the critical thinking is critical

You are so real for that. Growing up IS learning to accept that all the girlies have a rich inner life and not just the ones within your acceptable framework for getting there. It is so so freeing to learn to think that way, like we all thought we were better than the other social groups in high school and that was so much work. How great and refreshing is it to be like "I'm not better than anyone for my hobbies and interests and areas of knowledge and no one is better than me for theirs, if we all do what makes us feel fulfilled then we're doing our best and that's worthy of respect"?

This is the morning paper that I needed with my maple vanilla coffee today ❤❤

“Y’all aren’t hearing her like I am” YUP

Subway Lady IS who Amy Dunne was talking about. She’s like a flashback to 2009.

I dont think she was attacking candid girl i think she was describing candid girl. Like candid girl is so rare that she's almost not real or there's just one of her in most circles. Like she literally says "i'd like to meet one", "what all guys want is this" - she never said that candid girl is a real person. candid girl is the box that society wants every woman to strive towards. It's not that she has nothing going on in her brain. It's like society wants you to be this candid girl who obeys without a single thought. She is conventionally pretty but not intimidating, has something respctful going on career-wise and everybody likes her and she had perfect parents who didnt traumatize her but also molded her to be this perfect feminine presence that's acceptable by society. She's bubbly, uncontroversial, pretty, no strong opinions, will like what her partner likes, or will deal with it silently with a bubble bath, no complaints, nothing, etc. ETA : also the pomegranate and good pottery thing were examples of being uncontroversial.

You open my eyes to new concepts concerning the reality of women's lives and the challenges we face. Thank you, Elle!

"when I come on the God's Internet" might be one of the funniest things I've heard in a while tbh😂💀

i used to put other women down a lot i think cos i was closeted and got bullied for not being pretty. i rly clung onto stuff like my perceived intelligence and it made it easier for me to stomach some1 being prettier than me if i assumed they were dumb. like then i had something on them, you know? i was THE most rancid pick me tbh. but then i grew up eventually, thankfully. and i came out. and no wonder i was so fucking pressed about beautiful women when i was shoving my attraction for women deep down inside. like it sucks but im glad i grew out of it and now i can just appreciate women and my life is SO much better for it holy shit. anyway i wish every pick me a swift recovery

Still feel like subway girl had a negative view toward this "Emily" character rather than the type of men they end up with. It's no use framing her speech as a critique of men and the gap between what they what vs. what they go for when she actually spent more time dissecting Emily and did so in a mocking and derogatory tone the whole time. Her attitude to Emily is cemented even more by her closing line of "they're taking the hot men." Emily supposedly has all these boring interests but at the same time has nothing going on in her brain. That doesn't make sense and therefore comes across as malice. If she wanted to critique men, like her defenders say, then she would've done that.

When he didn’t want to watch ( and then got MAD and REFUSED to finish the movie) Gone Girl, that was the first of many ref flags and eventual ick that ended it for me.

I love the subway girl take - it’s just str8 forward w/ frustration

"Cringe more!!" 🤣🤣🤣 I love you so much ❤

I have an Emily in my life, and I adore her. She's small, mousey, she loves film history and likes collecting old photos of dead celebrities 😂 she's very sweet and lives life very casually. Now she has never had a boyfriend because she could care less but in our school days there was a secret cult of men who were madly in love with her. Several with girlfriends who said if she ever liked one of them, they would leave their girls. It was scary. No one told her, everyone wanted her to stay pure. Very creepy, I broke it to her after we graduated

lisa frankenstein nailed it with the “cool” monologue. guys want to be the “cool” one, the “interesting” one. their partner can’t have too much depth, or else they perceive that depth as taking away from their own personality and view of how “cool” they are. they want a partner that they can project themselves onto, but that they can still have some sense of looming, domineering accomplishment and superiority over. very uncool indeed.

11:26 True so true!! And even if you ARE creative and totality interesting the guy is gonna drag you down or humble you so HE can be the interesting one! Speaking from personal experience, don't dare such men, they will DRAIN you of your creative spirit and use it for themselves!!

If you have to perform it, is it even an inner life? An inner life is what is not um, pushed out there.

As a pomegranate girl, I really do hate the fact that people think that there’s nothing in my brain I am self-aware and very sad about the fact that I do I attract men who instead of liking me for the woman I am.. like my muse-ability

Thank you! Brilliant video! It really pisses me off how men say they want feminine, beautiful women yet on the other hand, demonize feminine, beautiful women who are girly and live in their feminine divine. In movies, all feminine girly girls who are beautiful, have good figures and girly friends, they are always plastered as the evil, horrible bully who always shuns the geeky guy who is destined to grow up as a millionaire and get her in the end. 🤮🤮 Give me a break!!! You know what does happen in reality? There was a really beautiful girl in my school. We'll call her "Rose". She was pretty, lovely and had a lovely figure. She was a girls girl. Everyone liked her and had good things to say about her. She was the captain of the netball team, dated the most popular guy in school who was also pretty kind and funny. He was the funniest guy in our year. Que, "the nice guy". Let's call him, "Tom". He was OBESSESSED with Rose in my school to the point he made her a shrine in art class. Rise was pretty chill about it though when were on our Netball championship, she told me and my best friend that she finds Tom to be creepy. Sge expressed that she was flattered by his project though she could not help but feel like it was a little stalkerish. Everyone was saying how she was overeacting and I told her to trust her instincts and keep Tom at arms length. He likes the idea of her, not liking her for her. Anyway, fast forward to now. Rose is happily married to a man who is well off, idolizes her and she has 4 kids with her husband. I kept in contact with Rose because she was a genuinely kind, lovely girl and she supported me going after my goals/career where everyone else found me weird for wanting that career as a girl. I met up with Rose and her husband "James" at a Zoo so they could bring their kids out. I am single by choice and childfree (Rose and James supports this as they know how hard it is to find a decent partner these days) and I wanted them to not have the issue of finding a sitter. Plus, I love her kids, they are polite and well behaved. Rose has barely changed. She has smile lines like I do and she looks so beautiful! She is GLOWING! Well looked after and she is successful in her make-up line with Avon. We have an awesome catch up and we run into, you guessed it, Tom. Tom however, is overweight, ungroomed and looks like he aged by 20 years. It took me three takes to recognized him after he called to myself and Rose. He was getting off of the Garbage truck and he literally ran towards us. I threw Rose behind me and yelled "Back off!" Tom stopped and acted like he did not just charge at us. He ignored me and immediately tried getting Rose's number, telling her how he still holds a candle for her, how beautiful she still is, blar blar blar. He tried telling her how his business about to lift off and how much money he will be making that he'll be such a catch, that she'll regret not getting with him now. I laughed so hard and loudly, James came over to us asking me what I was laughung about. Rose however, looked horrified that she froze. James took one look at Rose's scared face and he immediately went protective mode. Tom threw a fit at James "touching his Rose" and they both almost had a punch up. I told Rose to get her kids and keep them back, she did, and I flagged down Zoo keepers to help break these two up. James had a red jaw but Tom limped away with a broken nose. So, to all the "nice guys" who think they will get one over on the beautiful girl who turned you down in high school, let me tell you, that dream is nothing but fuction and rarely happens to actual kind people. You're bitterness and negativity will age you by 20 years and you will be overweight, ugly men with an even uglier personality. You so called "nice guys" have been warned!

Oh my god. I just realized my childhood and my home was all due to my dad’s love for the MPDG. It was all because my dad got so inspired by Elizabethtown in 2010. My dad loved the Manic Pixie Dream Girl so much that it became the reason I grew up where I did. It’s why I am who I am. I’m losing my mind. There are no words. This realization hit me like a truck.

Literally everything! There is so much misplaced anger but it always has to deal with a MAN. Ladies, every time there is an issue pertaining to relationships, consciously ask yourself “Where are the men?”.

People would be well served to know that not everything is *for them*. If it's not for you; you don't like it, you don't approve, etc., you can't totally just move on to something you do vibe with.

😅im sorry but the firts girl definetlly has someone she is thinking of when describing candic girl, and she is furious the guy he likes, likes her Pottery class ? Tokyo pic ? Way to especific hahahahha

I love your channel, and it's helped me so much through my breakup. Something about your channel and you is just so healing. I love it, absolutely. You are literally my comfort channel, and I love binge watch your videos. I used to someone who settle for the absolutely low effort and bare minimum men, and now after I found your channel, anytime I guy gives me that ick I am done, I flee. Please ignore all the hate comment, because you are doing God's work here, girlie. I love you.

girls like subway girl traumatized me in high school :)) the candid girlfriend (usually good looking) plays silly and basic not for boys but for other girls so that other girls could feel good in their own skin around them. subway girl reminds me of some friends from high school who were insecure or jealous " OMG you are so pretty, everyone likes you" and I was supposed to be "OMG nooo but you're not smarter, I have flaws too," basically expecting me to humble myself and somehow apologize , many times I had to be goofy, modest, put myself down, avoid triggering in order to have girl friends. It's not necessarily something bad to do that from time to time or unusual to act like that at a certain age, but some were also trolls, they enjoyed seeing me self sabotage in order to be accepted in a girl group and laughed at me (behind my back,of course) "OMG, did you see how silly she is, she is boring/bimbo/nothing going inside her brain"... etc. It was ok in highschool but subway girl is already an adult woman... still trolling... Girls's girl :)) B* please!

I LOVE responding with “awfully specific” 😂😂😂

I love women but not when they downplay their own gender identity

Hi besties 🩷🌸🧋

All of this seems like a big ado about nothing. Women…stop worrying about other women. Stop worrying about men. First worry about yourself. All these women seem to be hyper theorizing about hypothetical people and metaphorical situations. Stop over analyzing and taking specific instances and applying them to “all men” or “pick me women” and just meet people and judge them individually. I’m so tired of hearing about aesthetics, and cores, and vanilla girl or pomegranate girl or mob girlfriend, etc. stop categorizing everything. Everyone seems so worried about this imaginary girl and how a man might perceive her.

Subway Girl just explained Zooey Deschanel's character in 500 Days of Summer. Her character in that was the original Candid Girlfriend and it's made clear in that movie that Summer is NOT what we see her as, this is just who she is in the eyes of one pathetic man, aka the men that love Emily the Pomegranate Girl.

Hi bestie, I was craving for one of your vids after watching the previous one ! I

The entire topic went over my head. I didn't know women were judging other women's inner lives. I thought that was a personal... inner thing. 😮 I'm too introverted for this😅