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The Atheist Experience 21.10 for March 12, 2017 with Matt Dillahunty and John Iacoletti.
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@johns1625 10 месяцев назад

Props to this guy. He landed a Mormon wife and is just trying his gosh darn hardest to gaslight himself into the darn thing 😂

@steved8878 3 месяца назад

30 seconds into this video and your comment is perfect.

@crispybacon91 3 месяца назад

Pussy does that to a man

@elmoblatch9787 Месяц назад

That is EXACTLY the case. My good friend's brother "landed" a mormon wife 30 years ago. She was beautiful, blue eyed and fair. My friend's brother was a mechanical engineer with no religious faith. He found sweet love and community, and all he had to do was believe (or pretend to believe) the complete and utter bullshit. He did and still does. Mormons are very nice people. They throw incredible parties, thanks to the 10% tithe that they bleed from followers. What a racket.

@chairmanofrussia 5 лет назад

He has the most mormon voice ever

@theshapeexists 5 лет назад

😂

@SimberLayek 5 лет назад

Mormons faces are recognisable from a mile away, too... tell me I'm wrong

@grumblesa10 5 лет назад

Unctuous, slow cadence -yep

@adamwilliams3963 5 лет назад

I live in North Carolina. They sound like that here too.

@devitomichael 5 лет назад

“I’m no dummy” says the new Mormon, ha ha ha lol just fucking epic

@TheChiog 3 года назад

I love Matt's confusion there: "Wait, you became a Mormon AFTER you watched that?"

@vermilion6966 Год назад

killed me too xD

@pavel9652 Год назад

It was funny, but at least he is honest, answers questions and acknowledges points they are making. Such a change from standard, deceptive, tip dancing theist.

@natelipscomb6530 Год назад

Dum dum dum dum

@jeff-8511 4 года назад

I’m an ex Mormon!! Loosing my faith was a very painful and difficult road, but afterwards you look back and think “oh gosh it was so obviously false!! how could anyone believe that?!?”

@domramirez6878 2 года назад

That’s great news, Jeff! Wait, are you *the* Jeff? From the video?

@guapify2320 2 года назад

Were you the Jeff from the video?

@jeff-8511 2 года назад

@@guapify2320 No that wasn’t me

@thepowerofmyth 2 года назад

Proud of u man. That's bravery

@RandyWinn42 Год назад

I felt the same way when I finally grew out of the religion of my childhood. I prefer to think of it not as a loss, but as a healing.

@craigmanuel591 5 лет назад

This man sounds like a very sweet man who is unable to critically think.... this is who religious leaders pray on ...He struggles with critical thinking and needs to escape from the religious leaches

@sablemae8853 5 лет назад

Most Mormons sound polite and nice but there religion is crazy and they do some very bad things to the teenagers doing there questions by old men asking sexual questions to them. Not simple easy questions but detailed questions and shame rape victims by asking if they orgasm when they've been raped. It's sick!!

@gmansplit 5 лет назад

I believe you mean "prey."

@markparr7224 5 лет назад

And exactly what Trump is playing on. he knows his "base" is gullible enough to buy religious nonsense, so they will easily buy his rhetoric. Same exact thing.

@NannaTina 5 лет назад

Italjute he never said “all” muslims, he basically said muslims did it. As far as I know that’s true.

@ITALJUTE 5 лет назад

@@NannaTina : LOL, you know as well as anybody does, he was generalising and he meant Muslims in general. You know this. You're not fooling me. Are you fooling yourself?

@jamesonsnuggs6151 5 лет назад

This guy sounds like a Mormon Ned Flanders

@shangri-la9458 5 лет назад

Lol I feel like they all sound like this.

@adamtzsch 5 лет назад

Jameson Snuggs Love thy neighborino.

@ralfhaggstrom9862 5 лет назад

That is his alma-mater ..........

@mdkcjtl5523 5 лет назад

I’m from Utah and I’m atheist this guys the minority now especially among the youth they don’t give a fuck about religion

@BilsonBoi 5 лет назад

He sounded like a character from South Park

@shawnreed7876 3 года назад

When Jeff called in I was still mormon. I am no longer a mormon.

@BrickBuilder50 Год назад

Good for you

@oliveryt7168 6 месяцев назад

Congratulations!

@rattlersix 3 месяца назад

How do you feel about The Rock?

@scipioafricanus5871 2 месяца назад

@@rattlersix The foundation on which Jeebus built his church.

@kennethogorman5436 2 месяца назад

Joseph Smith was Lynch mobbed by his own congregation because he kept taking peoples wives

@TheUtubeuserme 2 года назад

I was a Mormon Missionary 12 years ago. Sweet sincere people like this caller is the only type of people that we would baptize. Our approach was carefully tailored to resonate with that type of individual. At the time I thought I was doing gods work. Now I have a lot of regrets about misleading people. Listening to this call breaks my heart. That sweet man was taken in, now the Mormons get 10 percent of his income.

@BrickBuilder50 Год назад

👍🏽

@teve90 Год назад

Want to start a new religion and take sum more dough from more morons??

@teve90 Год назад

Edit- and we have to make our religion seem 2k years old

@legshakermaker1968 Год назад

Jeff is either a highly skilled troll or a simpleton.

@joshdarius5995 Год назад

That's what they wanted....Cha-Chinh

@aaav298 5 лет назад

While what he believes is absolutely insane, he was still very respectful and civil. At least he’s not like some of the other fundamentalist nutjobs who call in screaming.

@ross-carlson 5 лет назад

Completely agree - he really doesn't want what Matt is saying to be true - he wants it so badly, but is realizing it's all absolute bullshit.

@kauriwilson8434 5 лет назад

Yes and it is sad to see very commited sheep who, I cant speak for myself since I was profound by this book and thought that there was a god existing, but was so brainwashed I didnt think he wasn't real. I feel sorry LDS because they rather preached their messiah prophet Joseph smith the drunkard who went to prison because he claim to see Jesus in a forest prophesying to him, doesn't it sound familiar to other testimonies involved and sad to say but as a past mormonist, it is a cult. They reject the bible and believe in theirs which has Josiah, nephi, etc.

@kauriwilson8434 5 лет назад

They call it restoration

@ricomunoz6121 5 лет назад

Modern Atheist not a bigot

@kauriwilson8434 5 лет назад

@vilcantroper nope. It does matter. He is not helping anyone :). Sadly . And religion is not the answer. Yet they believe

@aierce 5 лет назад

The caller is able to listen and able to recognize some of his own fallicies when pointed out to him. This is so rare.

@bluellownogreen3331 4 года назад

Most people actually do recognize the fallacy , its not at all rare. In this guy's case(and many others) its the fact that he is admitting to it anonymously. He IS a Mormon and he damn well know the consequences of admitting to what Matt pointed out. Salt Lake City , the Psychiatrist Mecca.

@jds6206 4 года назад

The caller is fantastically simple-minded.

@christiananderson4909 4 года назад

Glad you pointed that out. It actually impressed me, and endeared me to him a bit, too.

@richdandanell2911 4 года назад

Most theists do recognize these things . But they can't admit it to them self's because it means their deepest belief's are wrong . It also means that when they die they won't be going to heaven and get to live blissfully forever . Death is the toughest reality for most people to face . So it seems most people are willing to believe anything as long as it promises you don't really die when your dead you just go on to a better place . And that's exactly why religion have such an overpowering effect on people and why people can't admit there belief's are so flawed .

@timothybrown5999 4 года назад

I was thinking the same, this guy is a genuine person having a conversation with people he disagrees with on large issues. Much respect to anyone who can debate someone without getting personal or rude

@lifesgrowinggreat 2 года назад

Poor guy, I've never heard someone apologize so much for there beliefs. This guy is probably honest and hard working. Being taken advantage of by his church and probably everyone else in his life. I HOPE JEFF IS DOING WELL.

@flyguyry1 7 месяцев назад

Their, too

@geoffallshorn5167 5 месяцев назад

Yes, an honest and sincere person. I wish him well too.

@Flavadave555 4 года назад

Former lifelong Mormon here, I'm glad that they caught Jeff at an early stage in his Mormon conversion. The reason you see some of the open-mindedness that he shows here is because he hasn't yet been inundated with years of gaslighting and indoctrination that leads to testimony walls and the inability to thoughtfully question your beliefs. I sincerely hope he took this conversation to heart and started looking into the church history that puts the nail in the coffin. I carry a lot of weight from growing up Mormon and I'll be dealing with those ill-effects for years to come. I just wish more people can come to reason and rethink the message they've been fed. It's all so frustrating and illogical and tragic 😕

@techfreak1182 2 года назад

Maybe he'll get his endowments, and if he does his research he'll sit there and realize "holy shit, I'm in a cult."

@paulolosi1452 2 года назад

I’m currently in the stake young mans presidency in the Mormon church and I can’t seem to get myself completely out of the churches because no one wants me gone.😅 dammit can’t y’all just leave me alone if I want to leave let me go!!🤣

@steveswangler6373 2 года назад

Not trying to be funny, but how can you be a “former lifolong” anything?

@remigiuszfetzki7379 2 года назад

@@steveswangler6373 that was good call man !

@KrishnarajRaoUrbanNaxal 2 года назад

@@steveswangler6373 😂

@calebmauer1751 5 лет назад

"A Mormon told me that they don't drink coffee. I said, 'A cup of coffee every day gives you wonderful benefits.' He said, 'Like what?' I said, 'Well, it keeps you from being Mormon ...'" -Emo Philips

@dark_winter8238 4 года назад

Caleb Mauer lmfao.

@rowleyj31 4 года назад

But they will drink pepsi and monster energy drinks.

@dukadarodear2176 4 года назад

You've just proven that not ALL circular thinking is bad.

@rowleyj31 4 года назад

@@dukadarodear2176 I think it's cause the Mormon church owns a large stake in Pepsi, and Monster is under Pepsi? There for it's ok somehow? That could be hearsay though. But the Mormon church does wn a large stake in Pepsi.

@robp8108 4 года назад

Dead 🤣

@alexisjuillard4816 5 лет назад

That guy is a bizzare mix of politeness, good intentions, crazy beliefs, honesty, lack of critical thinking and desire to improve (i think)

@ralfhaggstrom9862 4 года назад

Well put ...............

@AvNotasian 4 года назад

Hes the sort of person that is carefree, he doesn't really care too much what he believes or what conflicts with his beliefs. Its almost impossible to change these peoples minds but they are nice people.

@ralfhaggstrom9862 4 года назад

@@AvNotasian They CAN be "nice people", when/ if they SHUT UP ! ............

@notthatyouasked6656 4 года назад

In other words he's a Mormon.

@danbrooks3932 3 года назад

Highly impressional and he is clearly old so he has never thought for himself

@icicloui 4 года назад

"Oh no, I feel like the guy who was defending Voodoo now" Well done Jeff, super polite Formon-to-be. More Jeffs please.

@patzchan1900 2 года назад

Hes quick to realize. Thats a real college graduate lol

@hectorespinoza3446 2 года назад

I've seen probably 100 videos on this channel, and legitimately the first time I've seen someone get hit with a truck of reality and say "oh wow, I sound like that other idiot who called in before me who believed in nonsense, whoops."

@hieronymus..bosch8532 2 года назад

How about warren jeffs ? ( imprisoned mormon cleric/ profit for marrying childeren)

@NicholasLaDieu Год назад

@@hectorespinoza3446 yes i was thinking the same thing

@noel090909 4 года назад

Wow. A genuinely nice caller who seemed like he really listened to what Matt was saying, rather than just blindly defending his beliefs. I hope Jeff is doing well today.

@paulj3873 2 года назад

Which ever God there is or not’. I hope he blesses this Jeff

@brianfergus839 Год назад

Ikr if only all stupid, ignorant people were as nice as this guy.

@gtr5973 5 месяцев назад

Yes but tomorrow somebody could easily talk him into believing in Islam or Hinduism or whatever

@Richard.Atkinson 5 лет назад

“We don’t have voodoo - we have the Melchizedek Priesthood” has to be the most entertaining phrase uttered by anyone ever.

@ishmaelm1932 4 года назад

Wtf is that? Some premium priesthood.

@moxxie9707 4 года назад

Naw its " between the three of us, they sound very similar" He is aware of the viewing audience, no?

@headlights4395 4 года назад

the Melkissadick priesthood?

@sadkingbilly 4 года назад

Shell Shock scripture knowledge isn’t knowledge at al. Saying that is like saying “my knowledge of fairytales proves they’re real”

@MensHominis 4 года назад

@Shell Shock - *we* have zero understanding? You know that he was just quoting the caller, right? You know what " means, right?

@Bebopopotamus 5 лет назад

I love Jeff's "oof" after Matt asks a question that Jeff has clearly never thought about but clearly knows the answer is not in favor of what he believes. Jeff is a good guy.

@katemillerissima7779 4 года назад

Bebopopotamus 🤣

@Doctor_Straing_Strange 3 года назад

Jeff is a good guy, a victim of indoctrination and lies

@PimSlickins 4 года назад

Ex Jehovah's witness reporting here. I left because I was never afraid to think critically. It came with a heavy price. My family has shunned me for 20 years. There are thousands of people like me. This is a fight worth fighting for. Thanks guys.

@dink0011 4 года назад

you gotta respect this caller for his honest reactions

@savagefrito 2 года назад

crazy how college education does that to some people, learn to question things

@julieneve2791 4 года назад

I was raised Mormon, I use to feel a burning in my bosom, took some pepto bismol and it went away

@ftjax 2 года назад

Also bicarbonate is good

@johnbyrnes6621 Год назад

clear proof that pepto bismol was invented by satan! /s

@allenanderson5297 Год назад

That's hilarious

@dtsosie5836 2 месяца назад

@julienevexxxx very hilarious. Your remark made my day

@jimmyb4982 5 лет назад

The caller seems nice. At least he's willing to think about his position.

@davewilliams5102 5 лет назад

His "Gut" feeling is probably just a bad case of Gas! He should try some TUMS!

@morphkogan8627 5 лет назад

@@davewilliams5102 lmao wtf, made me laugh

@Robbie32 4 года назад

'Think' might be putting it strongly, but he is open to discussion.

@privatemilo 4 года назад

He’s trolling lol

@RebelSwan 4 года назад

This called is so adorable and just downright nice. He’s truly engaged in the conversation and has such an open mind. We need more people like this on all sides of humanity.

@privatemilo 4 года назад

He’s trolling

@drhexagonapus 3 года назад

@@privatemilo I don't think you know what trolling is if you think this guy is a troll

@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime Год назад

He’s kinda moronic.

@desertguy395 4 года назад

My parents tried to beat god into me, but I stayed on my feet for the whole 15 rounds.

@pechaa 3 года назад

It says something about Christianity when I read your comment and I’m not certain it’s metaphorical.

@zzcanasta 3 года назад

@@pechaa I attended a Roman Catholic secondary school in the 1960s-70s, and the Christian Brothers who taught there literally did try to beat god into all of us. What happened, though, was that for many of us it had pretty much the opposite effect. Of all the former schoolfriends I've had contact with in the intervening years I only came across one who was still a believer. All the rest of us were atheists or agnostics. I think that counts as a win on points.

@ronhansen8471 3 года назад

That is the problem isn't it? "beat". Each person has to decide for themselves and religion is never beat into our children. If we love them we will teach them in what way we want them to go. If we want them to follow our beliefs in religion we have to lovingly and with patiently encourage them with proper teaching and example. Because of fee or mental challenges some children are not teachable and its not the parents fault. No parent should ever be abusive to their child or to anyone else for that manner.

@desertguy395 3 года назад

@@ronhansen8471 Thank you.

@zzcanasta 3 года назад

@@ronhansen8471 Because of (well-intentioned) indoctrination from my parents and (less well-intentioned) from my schools (both RC) I spent much of my childhood in a state of abject terror - about whether I would get to heaven, or if Satan was capable of manipulating my thoughts and feelings, causing me to sin and thus spend an eternity being tortured in hell. My priests and teachers assured me that Satan tried to do this all the time. It really was a form of psychological terrorism, and it took me until my late teens both to realise that fact and then gradually discover the hollowness at the centre of everything I'd been told. I determined that I would never put my children through even a modified form of what I'd experienced, so from an early age I encouraged them to think critically, ask questions and evaluate the answers they were given or the claims made on the basis of evidence. When they asked me about my beliefs I told them that I was an atheist because I had found no convincing evidence for the existence of gods, but that they would have to frame their own view of life in whatever terms made sense to them. They are now both adults, and describe themselves as atheists. They are warm, compassionate, modest, kind, loving and caring young men with a strong sense of social justice and a love of life. Interestingly, both achieved the highest grade in GCSE Religious Education at school. I'm happy that I was able to spare them the misery that blighted most of my childhood, and have had the joy of watching them develop into mature, responsible and wise adults who find fulfilment in their lives without the need for supernatural permission to do so.

@respectfulgamer7232 5 лет назад

Oh Jeff... Whata nice guy. Can't you get more arrogant religious people to call you, this is heartbreaking ):

@Coco-yy5pw 5 лет назад

I used to feel very bad for the people like Jeff on this show but now I am used to them dismantling theist believes. And honestly I think it is very great. I hope Jeff went home thought it though and is not a Mormon anymore, or at least that’s what I pray he does. 😉

@Sonofsun. 4 года назад

lol

@tamradawn1732 4 года назад

@Wee Mac you're a dick

@dogsbeforedogma4402 4 года назад

Tamra Dawn agreed, the caller was so respectful

@VerySimplyEl 5 лет назад

Poor guy. He was so sweet. It definitely seems like he is looking for truth, but one that comforts him.

@n4rzul 4 года назад

You just described what I felt when I went from Christianity to being an atheist. It felt like losing myself. My identity was so intertwined with being Christian, that my mind fought the thought of letting go of it. I am just grateful that the rational part won out. When I finally let go it was like a breath of fresh air. Mountains of guilt and shitty thoughts just fell away. I was finally free after what felt like a lifetime of abuse and imprisonment. Now I look back at my past beliefs and stand in awe at how deceived and brainwashed I was. I find it both fascinating and downright scary how the human mind can be manipulated to believe utter crap, without question or proof. At first, I fell into the trap of thinking that those that do believe in religion must be stupid and have low IQ or something (Ironic, I know :) ). I now understand that *anyone* no matter how smart can have their brain hijacked especially if that indoctrination begins when you are a child.

@markhaunert5029 4 года назад

@@n4rzul exactly, that's why i want to see how Bailey Stardust turns out as an adult. Hopefully she'll make a difference with the younger generation

@shawnreed7876 3 года назад

@@n4rzul Wow, that is my experience word for word.

@scottfulton267 3 года назад

I love this line that the caller said: "When you pray, you have to fully mean it. You can't go into it half-butt!"

@user-fv8yx3bw5t 5 месяцев назад

That's what she said.

@SteveSmith-os5bs 3 года назад

I spent my life in the church with the warm fuzzies. I finely figured at age 50 after studying the history of the life of Joseph Smith and the Book of Abraham that I had believed in a 19th century con artist all my life.

@utah133 5 лет назад

I'm another "Jeff from Utah." I'm an ex-Mormon. It's all BS, folks. I tried to be a proper Mormon, but my mind is too literal and analytical to buy it.. Or any religion for that matter.

@bluellownogreen3331 4 года назад

Jeff , You tried to be a real Mormon ,(which is a devout Mormon ONLY); and in that attempt you saw the harbinger of mental compromises that can lead to mental illness and you backed off for your own sanity's sake.

@mrdgenerate 4 года назад

Awesome good for you homie

@amandarios448 4 года назад

Congrats! And know you're not alone!!!

@jds6206 4 года назад

@Charles Blair ...for any god.

@trinidyjohnson9295 4 года назад

Also from Utah....x Mormon.....and your so right..bullshit!

@andrewmudery9756 5 лет назад

I have a lot of respect for this caller. I think he sounds extremely open to being wrong and to actual logic. I hope he seriously takes a dive into his faith and finds out just how illogical it is. I have hope for him

@SilverKing3578 5 лет назад

Yeah, he was able to realize his arguments for Mormonism is the same as the ones the Voodoo guy presented before, which led him to realize that those arguments are trash because they prove two conflicting ideas. If an argument/point can prove two 100% conflicting/exclusive claims, then the argument/point must be wrong. He is very polite and genuinely a person who listens. The fact that he risked his status as a Mormon by coming to the show was very brave. Cheers to him🍷🍷

@launabanauna8958 5 лет назад

Andrew Mudery I have a hard time believing he’s for real. I think he’s a professional troll.

@SilverKing3578 5 лет назад

@@launabanauna8958 Well a troll wont ever be as polite as this Mormon guy. Just go and watch some of the ones who talk from their ass

@launabanauna8958 5 лет назад

Nick Ericson Trolls can be polite, or not, it’s up to them. It fooled you.

@SimberLayek 5 лет назад

@@launabanauna8958 who benefits? And how?

@atdynax 3 года назад

It's interesting that a question that is answered with a yes by Atheists gets theist's brains to melt.

@timothywilliams4089 2 года назад

Ned Flanders.....

@lightbeing8174 Год назад

What would an exorcism do to an atheist own straight up.

@ChocKsic 4 года назад

Matt: "Don't be afraid of doubt. The truth has nothing to fear from investigation." Woah

@charlieherron5462 5 лет назад

I love the long silence after Matt's wisdom hits. It's in those moments that faith is lost and eyes are opened.

@sadkingbilly 4 года назад

Wee Mac no, the caller is a brainwashed human who is given a peek at what reality is like. He’s quite shaken about it and might have gotten the little push that will lead to a life free of religion.

@kuromyou7969 4 года назад

@Wee Mac I Don't think he's a prick. He isn't being rude or aggressive.he sounds like a nice guy, but he's really latched onto the idea of Mormonism. He even uses the usual phrases like "another testament" and "burning in the bosom."

@Anti-FreedomD.P.R.ofSouthKorea 4 года назад

@Wee Mac no u

@Pol-Pot 4 года назад

It's beautiful isn't it

@jamesreagle245 4 года назад

Smith had god talking to him so he had the ultimate truth so if he was wrong then his god is wrong.

@meganmcdonald3908 5 лет назад

You two were so kind and respectful to this misguided gentleman. You allowed him to be vulnerable and admit he had doubts about his beliefs. Thank you for what you do.

@Emiliapocalypse 5 лет назад

Megan Mcdonald you’re so right. That ability to be vulnerable allowed him to think through his beliefs without defensiveness, which helped logic to naturally follow. Being kind and respectful (as long as the respect is mutual) is the most important way. I think patience helps the callers and listeners gently disentangle their belief system, rather than become intimidated and frightened into doubling down and battening down the hatches.

@Yosef9438 5 лет назад

@@Emiliapocalypse This is something Matt is absolutely amazing at doing, likely because he comes directly from religious doctrine. We can all take a lot from the way he talks to these folks.

@SimberLayek 5 лет назад

He's sooo skilled and practiced with patience and persistence... a true hero

@adamwilliams3963 5 лет назад

"A man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

@adamwilliams3963 5 лет назад

@@N8BALLSACK It's been attributed to Mark Twain, but I suspect it's much older.

@SoelengaaerbagAaseneed 2 года назад

Jeff is absolutely hilarious and an extremely nice guy. I hope everything worked out for him.

@two2truths 3 года назад

“Im sorry, I dont mean to be guilty of logical fallacies” nawwww, what a sweety! 😊☺️

@falcoperegrinus82 3 года назад

He felt so bad about calling ex-moromons apostates

@locustoffamine2644 5 лет назад

I'm proud of him. He actually wants to see the truth, even if the truth is not what he believes in. I hope he's an atheist now, or deist at least.

@JamesRichardWiley 5 лет назад

What if he had met the Scientologists first, and received a free personality test?

@jonsnor4313 5 лет назад

I hope he found an openminded religious group where he didnt fell victim to cults again.

@onpsxmember 5 лет назад

@@JamesRichardWiley Or those transcendent meditation people that follow that indian guru and on the higher levels they got all their mind and money sucked out of them.

@roqsteady5290 5 лет назад

Depends how much he wants/needs to believe for emotional reasons. Religion is cheap comfort, but the cost may rise if and when he investigates the nefarious practices of his cult.

@ringo666 2 года назад

Sorry, but deism is even harder to justify. It presupposes a god that doesn't interact with the universe. Impossible to detect, and therefore believe in, by definition.

@slanderman92 5 лет назад

We need more Jeffs. No matter their beliefs.

@Sonofsun. 4 года назад

you're goddamn right

@bella_ciao4608 4 года назад

eh, his beliefs about muslims were pretty bad

@hgetu3366 4 года назад

@Jin p he should've been more precise in the phrasing, but I agree with the message. This caller was mostly respectful and he seemed to actually think about what Matt was saying.

@amandarios448 4 года назад

@@bella_ciao4608 the views of Muslims about me are REAALLY BAD. I'm unveiled, unmarried, an atheist, bisexual... Muslims tend to really dislike women like me, I get the premium hatred package 😂😂😂

@markhaunert5029 4 года назад

@@amandarios448 yeah you might want to avoid them for sure. 😉🤩

@1Zaren 4 года назад

"Burning in my bosom" sounds like a bad case of heartburn.

@Dalonghair 4 года назад

Zaren Maybe it’s something he ate.

@ReverendLondo Год назад

He independently brought up the previous caller and readily admitted that they had similar belief structures. Probably the most honest caller.

@WukongTheMonkeyKing 5 лет назад

His rejection of Allah is too ironic.

@troyevitt2437 5 лет назад

Utah...a desert full of people following a religious prophet spinning off the Judaeo-Christian central thesis...but Islam?! THAT'S just crazy.

@Simon.the.Likeable 5 лет назад

Joseph Smith knew about Islam. It was the time of Tripoli and the Barbary pirates.

@troyevitt2437 5 лет назад

@@Simon.the.Likeable He actually once compared his starting a splinter sect of Abrahamic revealed religion to Mohamed's having done so.

@Simon.the.Likeable 5 лет назад

@@troyevitt2437 Thank you Troy. Do you know where I could find further information on Smith's comparison please? I have not heard of this before.

@bradzimmerman3171 5 лет назад

Jeff christians skate on very thin ice someday they will fall through right into Allahs stubby arms the ones with Shepperdcasters on the end

@westwass 5 лет назад

this guy sounds like an okay dude, hope the spirit of critical thinking blesses him

@berniebooth5045 5 месяцев назад

“The truth has nothing to fear from investigation” Absolutely spot on.

@wengchiang9216 3 года назад

“You watched The Book of Mormon, you read The Book of Mormon, and you became a Mormon?!” I could almost hear the slap as Matt’s metaphoric palm hit his metaphoric face

@ChristianIce 5 лет назад

10 bucks he's an atheist today.

@ryanweston9677 4 года назад

Wishful thinking.

@fja3924 4 года назад

he is too simple minded

@HappyHippieGaymer 3 года назад

I’d take that bet that even TODAY in 2020 this poor guy is still a mormon

@stacielivinthedream8510 3 года назад

@Tiberiu Farcas lol

@louistournas120 3 года назад

@@HappyHippieGaymer I will join that bet. I bet 25 cents that he is still a mormon.

@BrianMillsMFA 5 лет назад

0:26 "Hey guys, Mormon is a pejorative term." 1:24 (accidentally uses the word Mormon) THIS was the reason I left Mormonism. I had been raised my whole life using that term and being taught to be proud of that term. And then one day, the NEW prophet in his first address to the Church as prophet, says that is a bad word and using it is a "victory for Satan" and it gave me such mental whiplash. And then I saw the members around me suddenly stop using it and start correcting, and even shaming, one another for using a word Mormons have been self applying for 175 years! My brain just couldn't take it anymore and finally my mind was clear enough to see all the lies.

@kellercommunications7325 Год назад

Listening to this call 5 years later and it’s still fascinating and ringing true. I’d love to know how he’s doing now and if this was a step on his path to rational thinking.

@zubilize 4 года назад

"And see The Rock, The Rock is excellent" 😂😂😂

@TheSocratesian 5 лет назад

Wow..... It sounds like Butters grew up, joined LDS, changed his name to Jeff and called Atheist Experience.

@FPVLIFE 5 лет назад

TheSocratesian omg.. lol Butters 😂

@donnyh3497 5 лет назад

Oh hamburgers!

@jaymiddleton1782 5 лет назад

TheSocratesian this is so true. I love him so much. He’s very likeable.

@annoyedlawstudent8782 5 лет назад

This comment wins

@adamtzsch 5 лет назад

I'm English. Who's Butters?

@18shandee 5 лет назад

Ex Mormon here. Thank you so much for what you said about us "Apostates." Mormonism really does make people miserable.

@the_facedr3660 5 лет назад

The same as any other religion.

@jacobkolsen6301 5 лет назад

I am an atheist now but used to be mormon. I am glad to not be mormon anymore but now I am the black sheep of the family. Its sad when people leave the church its pretty much social suicide.

@TheDIrtyHobo 5 лет назад

@@jacobkolsen6301 Are you a Utah ex-mormon, by chance? Because that is a very different community that is much more toxic and stigmatized than other communities, from my experience. I'm from Seattle, but I went to BYU, and I was definitely ostracized for my lack of belief while I was there. I, nor any of my peer group which also left the church, felt pushed away by our families for leaving. Although it probably helps that we all actually made attempts to leave on good, respectful terms instead of hostile ones.

@jacobkolsen6301 5 лет назад

@@TheDIrtyHobo I live in idaho but have many family members who live in utah

@TheDIrtyHobo 5 лет назад

@@jacobkolsen6301 Ah, Utah Jr. Makes sense.

@noshrinkingviolet007 4 года назад

OMG, I'm an ex-MO that stumbled on this one and Jeff had me laughing repeatedly. He's so earnest and so hilarious! Thanks for posting, guys, I subbed with the hope that my post-Mo life will continue to be this funny. ;-)

@yaruqadishi8326 4 года назад

It will be

@parkerbrust 3 месяца назад

I am an ex Mormon and I watched this video six years ago and found it again on accident after de converting and it feels so nostalgic to me. I remember telling my Mormon friends to not debate with atheist because atheist are really good at arguing after watching it at 17 years old.

@Tgraffloans 5 лет назад

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled” - Mark Twain

@zachlimb2871 4 года назад

As a 19 year old ex-mormon who has faced deteriorations in my familial relationships due to this type of argument, it saddens me how religion, especially Mormonism, leads people away from reason. My father even admits that he believes because he NEEDS to believe. One time at dinner I mentioned that evolution is the only reasonable view of the origin of life, because of its basis in science. He replies, "No it's not, and it's offensive you would dismiss claims just because they're based on faith". This is a guy who mixes evolution and creation. Without religious organizations, people would not necessarily feel like they have to believe without evidence.

@shawnreed7876 3 года назад

Agreed. My family is the same.

@CarlottaTrouble 2 года назад

My mom says if she doesn't believe she'll never see my brother again. Sorry mom. If he wasn't cremated he'd be worm food. Sucks for everyone:(

@LakesideTrey Год назад

I don't think religion is the cause of people not believing things without evidence, I think it is a symptom of it.

@melkhiordarkfell4354 3 года назад

The best thing about Mormanism is South Park can have an hilarious episode and all they have to do is just tell the story of Joseph Smith found the gold tablets that no one ever saw and read them from a magic hat.

@mg4468 3 года назад

This guy’s warm & fuzzy in a Fargo kinda way. A-ha moments don’t happen on the air very often, well done!

@g-ph-rrit7345 2 года назад

That's what it is MG I couldn't get what he was about you hit the nail on the head Fargo kinda way 100% good man.

@harshbarj 5 лет назад

Religious people are funny. They can look at other religions and see what's clearly wrong with them, but when you bring up the same flaws in their religion, you are missing something or taking things out of context.

@Jblah 5 лет назад

I dont think this level of stupidity is not funny at all. Especially considering how many more children are being brainwashed and robbed of their free thinking resulting in an everlasting and reoccurring cycle of the dumb and the dumber. Im beginning to suspect the government has a hand in literally everything that keeps people from dealing with real issues and real world problems. Society has become a joke and civilization has become overrated.

@AString95 5 лет назад

j blah are you truly concerned about the future of other people? If you are concerned with the well being of others, why? If so, what are you doing to increase the well being of others?

@christopheradams5607 5 лет назад

@@Jblah That is an ironic comment.

@christopheradams5607 5 лет назад

@@AString95 What have you done yourself?

@Jblah 4 года назад

@@AString95 "we are in space age times with stone age minds". Some dude.-

@RaptorJesus. 5 лет назад

guys seriously he's convinced me to finally turn, i'm finally going to watch The Rock!

@Bookwyrm86 4 года назад

Raptor Jesus It’s a fun ride. Enjoy it for the spectacle it is. The actors make the movie better than it has any right to be.

@blatherskite3009 3 года назад

@@Bookwyrm86 Yep. It's not high art, and doesn't aim to be, but it's up there with films such as the original Die Hard for everything coming together to make it better than it has any right to be. It went a bit down in my estimation, though, when I saw "Twilight's Last Gleaming" (1977) which it steals its premise - if not its location - from pretty shamelessly, but it's still a fun ride :)

@boblangford5514 3 года назад

This guy is as innocent as the day he was born. “You can’t pray half-butt.” That was adorable.

@mrfester42 3 года назад

That type of nonsense is NOT adorable. It's scary.

@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime Год назад

He’s stupid.😢

@LakesideTrey Год назад

@@mrfester42rueeee. They should make a horror movie of old Mormon men refusing to swear. Everyone would doodoo their pants.

@JoseMerino-xn4zw 4 года назад

I love Matt. He's an awesome human being

@vadimdopop4061 5 лет назад

Mat made him think. That's the most wonderful thing atheists do to believers

@hereticus8348 5 лет назад

Steve then let’s assume god isn’t real and the Bible isn’t real. Wouldn’t you say the most evil and despicable thing someone can do is to make other live in constant shame and fear?

@MrGeneFerda 5 лет назад

@Steve I bet you're great at dinner parties.

@PGraveDigger1 5 лет назад

@Hey, that's pretty average. A party at dinner time, often with a meal or elaborate snacks for the guests.

@roqsteady5290 5 лет назад

@Steve "Let's assume God is real and the Bible is true" Let's not assume that... problem solved.

@mariomiceli9663 5 лет назад

Lol dont expect a response. brainless followers simply dodge or ignore any point with logic

@davecrawley4634 5 лет назад

This man seems sweet. I feel sorry for him.

@joshjohnson3347 5 лет назад

Most Mormons are sweet.

@cmbacon75 4 года назад

Me too.

@MrCool-lo3ls 3 года назад

"Can you feel love for a fictional character?" After being on the internet and witnessing several anime based conversations, i can say conclusively: yes you can, but no you shouldn't

@ReadyPlayerPiano 2 года назад

I really want to applaud this man's openness and candor in his doubts and questions. If only we had more cases of this.

@bxnkroll 5 лет назад

He sounds somewhat close to realizing. Kinda seems like a good dude

@MarlboroughBlenheim1 4 года назад

Most religious people are good. They are just mistaken and scared.

@Paul-Weston 4 года назад

He does seem genuinely confused. These guys seriously rattled his cage, and gave him some stuff to keep watching the sun come up through the cracks in his curtains.

@MarlboroughBlenheim1 4 года назад

“Good” - what do you mean by this? Is it good to believe in something without evidence? Is it good to think there is a hell where people who don’t agree with you go?

@Sikhindu 5 лет назад

This guy will quit if he keeps looking. He is open minded.

@lvbdevinelove2329 2 года назад

Jeff, you're the best. Your intelligence shined through at the end, I applaud you sir. This is one of the ALL TIME GREATEST EPISODES. I loved how matt and John handled this call too. It's one of the most satisfying videos to watch, and endearing.. Thank you gentlemen. Hope Jeff is doing well.

@michaelbalzer5903 5 лет назад

It sounds like this guy called in because he wanted to be convinced that his move to mormonism was a mistake.

@dx1450 5 лет назад

Sounded like he was having serious doubts toward the end of the call.

@Teafa 5 лет назад

I absolutely agree with this.. he already had his doubts.. he is smart and critical- and need more to think about- THIS is what this show is about.

@Boznaniac 5 лет назад

Lol

@mariomiceli9663 5 лет назад

How many braincells do you have, 10?

@mariomiceli9663 5 лет назад

@Steve Says the ignorant follower of a tyrant who condoned slavery and murder of women and children.

@patpawlowski7635 5 лет назад

Jeff is my new favorite caller, and he’s probably not Mormon anymore

@fuscinula 5 лет назад

Hopefully, for him.

@meyo1860 3 года назад

I worked with a Middle Eastern guy who spoke and behaved EXACTLY like this caller; we were all terrified of him! His overly polite quirkiness was most unsettling. What a relief it was when he got “transferred” to an new office. No joke!

@maddieashby3996 Год назад

I was Mormon for the first 18 years of my life and one thing I'll say about them is that they are some of the sweetest people on the planet just like Jeff! This call reminded me so much of my dad.

@jmwild1 5 лет назад

This is what I like about many Mormons. Of those I've met in my life, they've all been kind and respectful and quick to apologize for any unintended offense. I feel for this caller and am kinda glad he took this to heart, and that Matt didn't beat him down. Matt and Jeff were very helpful in guiding the man to reexamine his faith.

@kennethyoung7564 5 лет назад

How about he debates someone tough. It's like debating a high school. I know many people who could quickly shut him down.

@jmwild1 5 лет назад

Matt never gets any challenging calls on this show. He could probably be "shut down" but not if given time for a rebuttal with facts.

@spankitshankit8733 5 лет назад

jmwild1 Mormons think dark skinned people are cursed

@jmwild1 5 лет назад

@Spankitshankit That was indeed a common belief but they have excused that from their holy book just as Christians have excused slavery from theirs. I'm not arguing that I have no issue with Mormons proselytizing and creating more Mormons, all I've said is that those I've known have been ironically nice and respectful to others.

@robertrosskopf4641 5 лет назад

@@spankitshankit8733 And poor people, and rich people, and illiterate people and people with disabilities... Who ever gets to live the perfect life?

@chudoyudo17 5 лет назад

Jeff was such a nice guy I cant help but root for him and hope that hes doing good

@raiderrocker18 4 года назад

It's completely unrealistic to expect somebody to abandon their worldview in a 20 minute phone call with two strangers. But this man was at least incredibly honest and seemed to be legitimately taking the doubt to heart, which imo is the most you could ask for in a call like this. Good on him.

@bacardid8979 Год назад

Jeff is the best example of how every Christian should be when examining their faith.

@TheTektronik 5 лет назад

Matt's patience with his callers are so great it's stellar.

@theshapeexists 5 лет назад

With polite callers like this guy, yes. The arrogant ones he can straight up verbally murder.

@patdavey7187 5 лет назад

He seems like he is most patient with those that have humility and have an actual conversation. There are plenty of episodes where he gets quite angry and mutes the caller.

@arimfshapiro7907 5 лет назад

Dillahunty is notorious for twisting off, and hanging up on callers.

@kevinbaker6750 5 лет назад

I think Jeff may be the nicest human being on the face of the Earth.

@ePICS8 3 года назад

This caller was great. I hope he found his way to atheism and critically thinking.

@speedofsoundgaming7693 3 года назад

This was so painful because in the middle he ALMOST found the right answer. He was on the friggen edge and he comes up with "I guess maybe God manifests himself in different ways" Dude you were so close it hurts me.

@brandonburnham7831 5 лет назад

He is so sure that Allah is unreal but believes wholeheartedly in Joseph Smith, who's been debunked completely and utterly by critical thinking

@thegigadykid1 4 года назад

Lol right when allah and jehovah are the same guy

@zemorph42 4 года назад

@@thegigadykid1 The LDS god is called "Elohim" as a proper name, not a title or description. It is also described as a "perfected man" that was once human on another planet, ruled by its own god. Is that the same god as jehova/YHWH/Allah?

@lufhopespeacefully2037 4 года назад

allah is real brandon but he &u never read quran

@zemorph42 4 года назад

@@lufhopespeacefully2037 Where's the lunar faultline?

@lufhopespeacefully2037 4 года назад

@@zemorph42 ,astronauts never confirm that or deny it till now but quran full of scientific miracles which had confirmed by scientists on the contrary of theory of evolution which is failed miserably via an atheist scientist who confirms man originally descendants of a man typically as quran said that`s why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world as per western media said

@johnathanhenley2251 5 лет назад

I enjoy when Matt plays chess with callers playing checkers.

@dukadarodear2176 4 года назад

Yep. Both boards are chequered but the similarity ends there.

@privatemilo 4 года назад

Dudes trolling

@cletokings4302 3 года назад

Or as he puts it - playing basketball against 5 years old kids.

@Fandoorsy 3 года назад

Jeff was a wonderful caller and I bet he's a sincerely great guy. The world needs more people like him. His open mind is refreshing.

@Billma48 Год назад

I am watching this five years later. I lived in Salt Lake City for about 20 years. This is such a good explanation of the religion. Right on the money.

@fufoNGSG 5 лет назад

It's nice to see how the caller is willing to question the foundation of his religion for a change, also he is very nice.

@nicolab2075 3 года назад

Are we sure he doesn't just agree with he last person he talked to??!!

@ds525252 5 лет назад

Wow... the caller is reevaluating his beliefs. Good job guys. You did not say “quit the mormons” you said “question your belief with these questions”. My beliefs are solid and TAE, AronRa, Genetically Modified Skeptic keeps me in check. Thanks guys!

@norelfarjun3554 3 года назад

"Holy ghost" This is the first time I have heard this phrase Made me imagine a movie about a ghost of a Catholic priest haunting a house. Made my day.

@azzeillarmeck4657 2 года назад

Its the holy spirit ..I too freake d out when I heard it for the first time

@macmartin86 3 года назад

It's actually 2020 here, and we're still watching, thanks Matt and John!

@deepdish2034 5 лет назад

I love Jeff He comes off as real AF

@The1980Philip 5 лет назад

The Mormon didn't even understand the movie properly. The Ed Harris character never intended to actually use the missiles. And I love how Matt holds people's feet to the fire.

@boomdelted 5 лет назад

I love that movie

@LucasSommer 5 лет назад

That is a classic Michael Bay film

@NetAndyCz 5 лет назад

Yeah that movie is not that bad, can make you think hard about who the real bad guys were in there.

@Alephkilo 5 лет назад

Shy Brother Speaks Only bcoz he wanted the families of the dead marines under his command to be compensated.i think he is/was a hero. Ironic though. We are discussing a movie as if it is real.😀

@Alephkilo 5 лет назад

Shy Brother Speaks I recall the movie quite vividly.. he said standdown soldier. He said they called our bluff.. he had no intention of using the nerve gas.. I believe he sacrificed himself for what he believed was the greater good. That’s noble to say the least.. sometimes ppl are driven by desperation. History subsequently decides whether they are hero’s or villains.. ain’t “ truth” subjective?😂

@lukesullivan3218 4 года назад

He seems like he's so close to connecting the dots😂

@gothsauceproductions5243 2 года назад

“I’m certainly not convinced with the fraudulent one” I love Matt and how much patience he shows truly waking so many who struggle with making conscious decisions.

@Tina-qn6pq 5 лет назад

I have a feeling he will soon be a “Formon”.

@moonchilddd9129 4 года назад

Tina Alicia 😂😂😂😂

@zemorph42 4 года назад

Maybe.

@dukadarodear2176 4 года назад

He's not quite a Mormon yet so he'll be a Premon.

@privatemilo 4 года назад

He’s trolling them lol

@davidepintus6490 5 лет назад

The one thing that pierced a hole in this guy's perspective was hearing someone else defending their own religion with similar arguments.

@tonyfendex2558 5 месяцев назад

I always feel chills--intense chills-- down my spine when I see Luke Skywalker, Darth Vader, Princess Leia. The thing is I FEEL EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE when I see Star Wars.

@jesot 2 года назад

This is one of my all time favorite calls. I sincerely love Jeff.

@kevL219 Год назад

But not as much as he likes the Rock! 😉

@tedkijeski339 5 лет назад

never heard the expression "half-butt" before. But I suppose if you're going to hear it, it might as well come from a Mormon.

@55chh 5 лет назад

....because ass is so much more naughty than butt

@aliciadavis8872 2 года назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@hlloyd-fs4uf 4 года назад

"... and I understand the difference between fiction and non-fiction." Uh, no Jeff, you really don't.

@quantumsith442 4 года назад

I can say that of the dozens of callers that I have listened to, this guy is by far my favorite. How rare to acknowledge the circular thinking. He's so close to the truth!