Neil DeGrasse Tyson talks to CNN's Van Jones about the latest climate change warning and the intersection of science with the military and politics. #CNN #degrassetyson #vanjones #climatechange
The problem ISN'T that people don't understand what science is. But rather, that people have grown so cynical that they don't TRUST the people providing the science. The problem is TRUST.
The various fields of scientific inquiry is simply the study of the natural world, and to learn how it functions in order to best utilize it for the betterment of us all.
The trust is not there because it has been broken many times beyond repair. Also, some people don't believe stuff that is fed to them, because they can't see/experience it themselves. That's one easy way to easily get manipulated; blind trust.
Trust is a big part of it. Part of the reason for lack of trust is the propaganda that the oil companies have been putting out for the last 50 years. Intended to sow doubt on the causes of climate change.
To both you Shan Hussain and Neil Degrasse, I guess it was okay for Capernicus and Galileo to accept that the earth was the center of the Universe. Maybe scientists should always question science, especially when the majority of scientists decide to close their minds on what's "generally accepted" by the scientific community. Remember when Pluto was still a planet? It took one man, against the 99%, to declassify Pluto as a planet! It's also interesting how we're supposed to believe "climate change" because the majority of scientists say so, but on the other hand we're supposed to believe a handful of "doctors" who claim that the flu shot causes autism. Now parents aren't getting their kids vaccinated and old diseases like Polio and Typhoid are coming back into the mass population. Thanks science!
@@OliVitoProductions You mean conspiracy theories like Russian Collusion? The Russians are coming! The Russians are coming! Two years later, the Russians are coming, wait for it!
The problem is that the education system is more focused about memorizing information and then regurgitating it on exams, essays, and projects. Most people are ignorant and don’t assimilate this information.
@@awebmate memorising information is a small part of the answer... true learning is having the intelligence to: i/take what we know and appropriately / correctly apply it to other new areas, in life or work, without being told or instructed and furthermore, ending up with the optimum outcome from all available options (self-motivated adaptation and innovation) ii/have the awareness of knowledge gaps and the preparedness to be continually upgrading our mental software.
@xxnike629xx : There's already been a word for that counterfeit anti-learning: _rote_ Look into it, if your _feelings_ will ever allow you to do so, of course.
The reason we can't pass any bills on regulations for gasoline is because gas companies have all the politicans in thier pockets, both Republican and Democrat.
Some regulations *were* passed under Obama....but trump in his insane obsession with erasing the black man who's smarter than him from history has systematically worked to repeal as many as possible while attempting to also gut the EPA from the inside.
Alot of climate deniers blame global elites for orchestrating this whole thing. They claim the koch's brothers lobby money to fuel this hoax. I have no idea how they can call climate change believers sheep.... When they themselves follow some absurd accusation
Well there are hundreds of billions of dollars, political, media and scientific careers at stake if the global warming crusade fails. No doubt that everyone involved has a vested interest in keeping it going.
I'm no brain genius but maybe, JUST MAYBE, if you take a teeny tiny bit of EFFORT and maybe google "why do people deny climate change exists?" or "conspiracy theories about global warming" you just might actually come up with an answer to satisfy yourself. I'm a low IQ individual and even I know this?
@Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg These people are literally incapable of finding out that what you speak is true. They literally want to be lied to and stay in their bubble lol
Alright for everyone who supports Donald Trump. Go watch some Kyle Kulinski, his channel is called SecularTalk. Hell, even if you don't agree with anything Trump says check out this guy, he's really good. Also, I appreciate Neil DeGrasse Tyson for making science more accesible to the people. ^^
Climate change is horseshit !!! Environmental science is a settled field....it tells us pollution is bad. We know this....so let's deal with it. Enough with the political bullshit of climate change.
@@flotuspotus7100 Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree*: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Canid Beast - or barring that, at least someone who _respects_ science enough to accept it! Someone who knows that they *don't* know as much about science as a scientist does!
Trump voters have to believe in COMMON SENSE , REALITY , and FACTS then we can educate them on climate change , the Republican Party , and everything else that dangers our country
Human #7,409,552,311, "7.7 billion people are responsible for less than 10% of greenhouse gas emissions" Sources of Greenhouse Gas Emissions www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions
CNN don’t think Neil is on your side, Neil is a firm believer in the quote “first get your facts straight, then distort them at your leisure”. So he’s probably not on your side.
Their climate model has issued nothing but failed predictions. Why does the left believe everything "science" says without investigation? It is every bit as stupid as having unquestioning devotion to the clergy.
Once somebody wise said that facts are stubborn things. No matter our wishes, inclinations and passions they cannot alter the state of facts. Sooner or later the facts will come and bite us. FACTS ARE STUBBORN THINGS.
He said "My people" and it wasn't referring to race..... its nice to hear. I can't wait until the day we all grow up and quit caring about such pointless differences, and focus on sience, and enjoying life
Climate science is nearly entirely driven by politics these days. Science has been lost for some time now. Mr. NDGT needs to take off his CO2 goggles and re-look at the science.
Kids of my generation made movements for adults to listen to us. Now? We have to raise our voices again. We thought once we became adults the job was over. It wasn't.
It's November and we should already be at swimming pools, parks and beaches, making barbecues here in the southern hemisphere, but i'm still wearing coat and taking hot showers ... it's been raining much more and we barely have sunny days ... Please, bring the heat back !!!!
I'm in the Southern Hemisphere too, but it is warmer in New Zealand, at least where I am. If it ever got to be an emergency, God would definitely answer my prayers as pointed out by my InnerMittenSignal's comment, and I would be grateful. I'm looking forward to Heaven where everything is made of light and the earth problems of unnecessary pain will be long forgotten...
A number of people are saying Neil would make a great president. Usually I'm opposed to chants of celebrities for political office because popularity does not equal credentials. Non-thinkers tend to vote based on ridiculous, superficial reasons. But I might make an exception for Neil because politics is _starving_ for a scientific perspective -- whereby decisions are made based on evidence and reason, not just gut feeling, wishful thinking, mysticism, selfish gain, or cherished idealogies. Whether he'd have the tolerance for all the pressures is another question, and he'd face a battle with those who think you have to believe in some _supernatural power_ to be a good person! But he'd certainly inject some refreshing rationality into *a field rife with lawyers and business people.* He'd get my vote over any president I've seen in my 60 trips around the sun.
Bluemoron... oops, a typo... how the hell did you take offense or glean political leanings from anything I said??? *It's leftist to respect evidence and rationality?* _Hahahahahahahahaha._ That's a very revealing point of view. I'm an Independent who has voted Republican several times, but because you were having a knee-jerk reaction, you didn't notice that I collectively criticized ALL presidents in the last 60 years. There are issues of science denial and ignorance on both sides of the aisle. It is *you* who brought up one specific issue, and it is you who is acting like a baby. Thanks for reinforcing my point about non-thinking people.
Really? Why? Because hes a fucking sell out that pretends that he came up with quotes that he stole from other people? Oh wait i get it because hes black right? Oh yes he would make a great president because he has black skin and has sold out utterly and totally. The man has such a ego that he continues to just spew the most retarded bullshit. That being a man of science should understand the effect the sun has on our planet. And i believe he does know this but he lies so that the talk shows will bring him on. Furthermore if you believe that "climate change" or "global warming" or whatever bullshit words they are coming up with to try and get carbon credits to be a thing so rich fucks make even more money.
I am everybody. I am here now. Neil is right. You are wasting my time. You are wasting everyone's time. Thus let the days end now and let the time cease to bother me. Slowly that it won't hurt as much. Wake up, ask, and I might consider to stop. I am everybody. J.
This stuff should just be common sense. Human brains are so full of potential but are also easily brain-washed, self-deluded, and unwilling to accept reality when it makes us uncomfortable.
Back in the late 60s when I was in college studying geography, climate/weather, geology, etc. a physics professor used the example of taking all the reels of film of all the Hollywood movies. Take all those reels of film and string them out in a line. Next hook those pieces of film together end to end. The length of a human lifetime is one frame of film in that long line. I've never forgotten that lecture to this day. As humans we have little or no concept of geologic time. It is for this same reason that people don't have any concept of evolution. The time scale just doesn't register except in the minds of scientists who can see and understand the evidence and the objective facts. It's no wonder young earth creationists cannot grasp the concept as it relates to a book written in a mostly illiterate Iron Age Era. Too these folks the idea is just too vast. The problem with the scale of time is what causes people to believe climate change is not real because they don't see the scale. In the new COSMOS series Dr. Tyson speaks about periods of extinction that happened over millions of years. If we blow off climate change there will eventually come a time when people say, "Oh snap!" The atmosphere will warm, oceans will rise and most of the species on earth will go extinct including humankind. Perhaps evolution over many millions of years will evolve new species who are a bit more intelligent and less self-destructive than we humans. Who knows? Earth will evolve and remain earth. We in our ignorance won't be around to see it. Climate change is fake? I think I'd be a bit more concerned about that conclusion.
TrikesterHal You are right about extinction events and these can be seen in the records. What's also noticeable is a continual downward trend of CO2. Humans are merely putting back something that's at geological record low levels that was once there already. While pollution is bad and there are negative effects the pros and cons must be looked at instead of the idea of anti human behaviour. Denying developing countries cheap abundant energy by virtue signalling westerners based on a consensus that doesn't actually exist except in a buddy buddy community of agreeing or being fired. Science welcomes criticism to get better. The MSM are pushing this narrative but behind the scenes the political establishment are polarising Americans in unfair ways for both sides. Decisions that affect humanity need to consider the + and - points otherwise THEN we fail. Net warming is +0.8C or something crazy if looking at >70failed projections. CO2 follows warming as seen here: www.researchgate.net/profile/J-E_Solheim/publication/257343053_The_phase_relation_between_atmospheric_carbon_dioxide_and_global_temperature/links/56e4581508ae68afa1106148/The-phase-relation-between-atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-and-global-temperature.pdf It frustrates me and others how the media and even NASA use Ice core data for a CO2 proxy even though is monotonic and barely fluctuates. The reasons for this are known. Sites like carbon brief and sceptical science are one and the same side of a coin. Research clearly shows their bias and adding one data set here from another there to paint a picture they want to is far from scientific. They then make predictions with models that are so ridiculous it beggars belief. They also make false claims about past CO2 levels never being over 280 PPM. Steinthorsdottir, M., Wohlfarth, B., Kylander, M. E., Blaauw, M., & Reimer, P. J. (2013). Stomatal proxy record of CO 2 concentrations from the last termination suggests an important role for CO 2 at climate change transitions. Quaternary science reviews, 68, 43-58. Fig 8 clearly shows how ice core has a rather sleepy 20PPM vs plant data 250 variation. Kouwenberg, L. L. R. (2004). Application of conifer needles in the reconstruction of Holocene CO2 levels. Another with pine needles. There was no driving of temperature then or now. These cycles are not on the IPCC AR5 report: Herrera, V. V., Mendoza, B., & Herrera, G. V. (2015). Reconstruction and prediction of the total solar irradiance: A wider dataset from 100 to present on TSI my Watts per M2. Shows how the IPCC get their tiny 0.05W M by cherry picking the TSI data starting at 1750 to show nearly current levels Scafetta, N., & Willson, R. C. (2014). ACRIM total solar irradiance satellite composite validation versus TSI proxy models. Only 2 of these climate cycles are included in the IPCC report. The ~11 year schwabe and 1 Milankovitch cycle. 11yr-Schawabe-Sunspot cycle tied to Jupiter's orbit 22yr-Hale-Magnetic field reversal on the sun cycle 61yr-Yoshimura-Sun barycentre motion Jupiter/Saturn tidal beat 84-92yr-Gleissberg-Solar activity related to Uranus orbital period 120yr-Velasco-Predicts solar minimum in 2040 172yr-Landscheidt-Uranus and Neptune Resonance 210-250yr-De-Vries / Suess-TSI cycle linked via a 5/2 resonance to Uranus 934yr-Bond-Angular momentum - sum of planets and Sun 1470yr-Dansgard-Oeschger-Cause not yet known - found through Heinrich events 2300yr-Bray / Hallstatt-Solar cycle 26000yr-Milankovitch-Precession cycle of the Earth's axis 41000yr-Milankovitch-Obliquity cycle of the Earth's axial tilt 100000yr-Milankovitch-Eccentricity cycle- changes in the earths orbit shape around the sun 32000000yr-No name-Sun's vertical oscillation through the Milky Way 141000000yr-No name-Sun traverses Milky Way's spiral arms I know this is a CNN site but please believe me when I say people are being lied to for their selfish ends. It's my earth too and science belongs to us all. All the best
Chucks Grace that has very little to do with global warming animal agriculture is responsible for more greenhouse gas emissions than all transportation combined!
He said 'believe' .. implying this is religious. He doubles down and says 'feelings over facts'. Well, we are more interested in scientific proof rather than religious beliefs
Haven't you heard? Trump recently said he "has a great instinct for science" because one of his uncles was at MIT. I'm not making this up. It was in an actual interview. What else can we expect from a man who loves to brag about his 'big stable brain" that has "all the best words". XD He's such an obvious idiot.
@@SuperKellx Yeah. Just like Al Gore said. Perhaps you have seen the latest IPCC releases. Pay particular attention to the end results of proposed initiatives. How much of a change can be made to reverse this "anthropomorphic climate change"? Apparently, a nearly insignificant change. Wasted money. Unless...it's about political motives. Hmm...
@@danielbeckstedt767 Al Gore does not constitute nor determine the science on this issue (or any other). He's a politician, not a scientist. Its really weird how the only people who use Al Gore as an argument on this topic are the people who reject the science itself for political reasons.....while paradoxically insisting the science is politicized. If you wish to challenge the scientific veracity of this issue then please use *scientific* sources and arguments instead of political ones.
@@danielbeckstedt767 Yes. Could you please cite which section of which report states that almost no change can be made as you said. I am unable to find the language you referred to. The Mitigation section of the 2014 Fifth assessment report describes many pathways of possible action with varying degrees of confidence in effectiveness (annotated). One example is: _"Reduction of subsidies to fossil energy can achieve significant emission reductions at negative social cost (very high confidence)"_
The fact that Tyson is propped up to comment on everything "science" is evidence that people in general are completely ignorant of how diverse science is. Tyson is an astrophysicist. His discipline has about as much to do with climatology as electrical engineering does. Having Tyson comment on climate change as if it were expert opinion is like having a bricklayer comment on installing fiberoptic cable, because they're both "trades".
Oh, you mean that clean ocean act that now allows millions of tons of fracking waste water to be dumped into the Gulf of Mexico? And his EPA that has rolled back dozens of prior bills protecting workers from their hazardous employers? And now, again, allows coal companies to dump their waste water into rivers? Or that Trump administration failure of a bill that protects employers from being sued by their employees? I could go on and on. Trump doesn't deserve good light, nor do any of the gutless fucking Republicans who are destroying this democracy. Trump will be an inmate somewhere very soon - along with the rest of the corrupt bunch. You may want to rethink your position. Your brain can be used to understand rational thought, but you have to think. Stop spewing the same bullshit rhetoric that is not progressing this country anywhere. I choose not to devolve. You should choose the same, and if especially if you have children, or grandchildren. It's their future we're ruining now, genius. Get a life, and use your brain.
@@osnoopysnoop1529 @ CNN FAIL. Notice how quickly the CNN guy deflects away from the topic he so lovingly put together when Tyson actually went on to suggest to add more defense to Trump's Space Force.
@Hawkzblade @ CNN FAIL. Notice how quickly the CNN guy deflects away from the topic he so lovingly put together when Tyson actually went on to suggest to add more defense to Trump's Space Force.
The worlds largest mall is being built in Miami Florida (7 feet above sea level)... I guess the investors, developers and city planners aren't buying Neil DeGrasse Tyson's junk science either.
They know more than astrophysicists? Making money doesn't mean you're a genius by default. A shrewd business man would just have high risk land developments insured and cash out if a natural disaster were to cause serious damage to their property. "Investors" pay attention to scientific research and data. It's how they make all of their decisions, ethical or otherwise.
Whaaaat?? Investors, developers and engineers making a long term mistake for short term financial gain???? That's impossible!!! Its never happened before!!!! Oh wait...
The problem with science is it changes profoundly with each new harvard professor who writes a paper with breaking news evidence that debunks the last scientists findings.
People who have studied should know that eating meat is a very big attack on our environment. Even if you go on holiday every year. This scientist knows a lot but does not act on it.
Kinda like we MUST believe any woman who declares she was raped. Doesn't matter if there is evidence or not...just believe because it is the right thing to do.
Change is coming and you can't stop it. I can't stop it. Nobody can stop it. You can hide or you can face your fear and potentially make a future for your children that doesn't involve drowning because you stuck your head in the sand.
That’s why I’m glad that I teach IB Chemistry. The nature of science is built into the course and its assessments. International standards of education are the way to go.
Back in 1988 James Hansen, currently adjunct professor directing the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions of the Earth Institute at Columbia University; predicted that Manhattan would be under water by 2008. Well here we are in 2022, 14 years after that date and it has yet to happen. Undaunted, DeGrasse Tyson makes more apocalyptic predictions. Funny that just a short while after this interview aired, Barack Obama bought a $15 million villa on Martha's Vineyard a mere 10 feet above sea level. Seems that Obama doesn't believe this alarmist nonsense.
The single greatest action you can do besides voting in climate change policy enforcing politicians is to be vegan. Factory farming is a greater contributor than the transportation and energy divisions of greenhouse gases. It’s not an easy thing to accept as a personal responsibility but it is vital to save the planet.
I've seen NDT strongly criticize anti-science, anti-historical garbage on the left, too (many aspects of feminism, anti-GMO, anti-vaccine, communism promotion), so yeah, he's earned my trust. He doesn't just go after the craziness of the right.
A civilization is judged by how it treats it's prisoners. Based on how many people are prisoners in this sick game and how we are treated, our society should be exterminated
He says "we've had relatively stable climate". And then talks about the what if. Then the host goes on to express that it scares him. What scares him? The fact that our climate is stable, or his fear for what could happen if our climate is no longer stable. I believe that would scare anyone. But since Neil explained that all is stable, this host should have spread the idea that the climate isn't doing well.
When I build my house, I call an engineer. When I send my kids to school I expect them to be taught by a teacher. When I need a weather forecast I listen to a meteorologist. So tell me again: Why do I need to listen to a climatologist when I want to know something about the climate?
You should make sure there are no gaping holes in your logic before you go rhetorical. (1) Your engineers have probably successfully built houses, and so you can trust that your house will stand up. (2) (Hopefully) your teachers have successfully taught students before, as shown in their improved test scores, knowledge, etc. (3) Your weather forecaster has correctly predicted the weather before, so he/she is credible. I would not trust any of these people if they could not produce results. So when it comes to climate (and other things)... these people have done *experiments*, but have not proven their results through practice (since it is impossible - they are predicting decades and centuries in the future). I'm not saying that what they are saying is true or false - what I am saying is that anyone who is CERTAIN that disaster is coming (or that climate is change is certainly false) from climate change is totally wrong. You can never be certain about what will happen decades into the future. If you tell me that these guys claim to predict with 99.99% certainty (or whatever) that the annual average temperature of the world will increase by x degrees C in year 21xx, I will tell you that's BS.
Your point is itself incredibly flawed: I listen to a professional not because I am certain that he can produce the correct result. I listen to him because I am sure he can produce a BETTER result than myself. The same logic applies here. I know NOTHING about climate science compared to a climatologist, so why would I not be willing to listen to him? Maybe he is wrong, but I have absolutely no grounds to judge that on, and all of his colleagues agree with him. If every climatologist in the world agrees that climate change exists (and trust me at least 99.99% of them do, because the greenhouse effect is a proven scientific principle), then I would be a fool not to listen to them "because noone can predict the future". no, noone can. And that's not the point. The point is that their scenario of the future is rather more likely than anything I could think up. So maybe I should listen.
Not sure that you'd hire someone who can build a "better" house than you can. Would you live in that? How about a "better airplane" than yourself? Would you ride in that? HELL no. You would have to see results. Construction workers stress test their constructions many times. You realize that *trillions* of dollars are involved in this industry? It would be one thing to just say "I believe it, yeah". Do you understand that there are carbon taxes, carbon tracking, and revolutionary change of the job market? It's not a matter of "yeah, I believe 'em". We are all *listening to him*. That's kind of why we are here. I'm not against renewable energy, conservative measures, but I am against carbon taxes (would greatly hurt working class), the insane bureaucracy, that would result from going full-on into this.
Actually they really don't. Did you know that it's almost impossible to calculate whether an Aeroplane WILL fly? They simply do the best they can and then send a test pilot off to see if it works. Most of the time it does. I'm from the arctic. If I wanted my house built I'd try to find someone who has a track record of finding ways to avoid permafrost degradation underneath the house. Does that mean my house will never see permafrost damages? No. Does that disqualify him from building the foundations to my house? No, because he will do a better job at it than I myself would. Not a perfect one, just a better one. The same applies to aeroplanes, trains, ships. We have them made by those who are better at making them than ourselves. This doesn't mean they don't fail at times. We use them anyway. So my point stands: Why do we not listen to those who know better than ourselves on the topic of climatology, when we do it in every other field were we have a need of expertise.
The same people who believe an ancient mythical book, and that Noah put 2 of every kind on an ark strangely DON’T believe in verifiable science, including that of climate change. The irony... *facepalms*
Even if you don't believe in climate change, renewable energy is an extremely powerful political tool if makes you self-sufficient and that gives you the biggest economic power.
