DELTARUNE Chapter 2 All SnowGrave Route Aborts Compilation 

thanks, chapters aren't working for some dumbass reason

@@bagjpeg You're welcome, if it can helps...

ROFLMAO Noelle is charging

@@bagjpeg missed some dialogue on room with 2 switches, when Noelle stands on switch and you trying to go to previous room, and when you glaring onto Noelle while she is standing on switch. In the end, Spamton tells about quality assurance, that this is the trade you will regret for the rest of your life.

Technically if you don’t equip the Thorn Ring on Noelle (or don’t obtain it..) Berdly then it aborts unless you die but the sound still doesn’t really play at any point

Yea, kris likes to play pranks and be a troublemaker, but they're very clearly against harming their friends at all. There's a moment where you have to hold down a button that turns off an electric gate, so noelle can walk through If you step off the switch just before noelle passes through, she jumps and screams, and kris smirks. However, if you step off the switch while she's passing through, it actually shocks her. Noelle doesn't seem too bothered by it, but she notices that kris looks upset afterwards

I saw something that said that the one thing you can’t get kris to do is actually kill since enemies just run at the end of a fight, but since nowell is inexperienced with the combat or the dark world, you can use it as a loophole to get her to kill

​​​@@quadrio1233it's more because they get frozen and a spell is harder to predict what it does For all the enemy knows, she could be casting a healing spell like ralsei did earlier in the chapter. They can't run if they're frozen. It's much harder to predict and dodge magic than a swipe of a sword.

Mordecai Ice cream

*I DONT CARE WHAT GALAXY YOU COME FROM, THATS GOTTA HURT!*

True.

Toby did that on purpose, I'm certain

😳

Me neither XD

it's very useful in speedruns, since it auto-spares them, and allows you to recruit all 3 instead of having to do the maus/poppup or second poppup/poppup encounter. also spares all 3 at the same time as opposed to block and an individual spare most people probably didn't know since they see "click" as "the wrong" response, as in something like talking to the vegetoid in the RUINS netting you a joke response, but this one actually spares them

@@bagjpeg They're also super great for grinding money. Click for up to 3 Poppups, spare 1-2 of them, and repeat. With enough repetition and patience, you can get lots of money. Oh, don't forget about the Silver Cards you can craft at the beginning of Chapter 2 and that one item you can get from Spamton NEO after sparring (if you're not doing the Snowgrave route).

Not necessarily. She doesn't know how to act on her own anymore...

@S KP You can technically do both in Weird Route....

what if you act and then proceed though?

@S KP i meant like what if you tried to use N-Action after using it the first time

The only act Noelle knows is to get stronger

Really the second they leave Snowgrave Noelle's just right back to thinking "Susie 😳🥺"

She seems to fixate on the most powerful presence nearby?

In the hospital, Noelle notices Kris before Susie in the snowgrave route.

I mean, who doesn't want to like a giant purple lizard?

Its like WE tries to manipulate noelle and use her as a puppet in snowgrave When we abort it,the ties just cut! Thats how i like to think of it

@@Aresofthevoid Barnie?

And if we want to go even further, Kris was probably giving us all of those chances to turn back- After all, even if the theories about Kris being evil and all that are true, Noelle was their childhood friend, i don’t think they’d want to manipulate her of their own will.

I really find these Kris and Ralsei are evil theories...absurd. Ralsei does have dialogues where he seems to know too much, sure, but we still don't know much. And as you said, Kris had nothing to do with the events of the snow grave route, but I am sure that they will be the to be blamed by everyone first like Berdly claiming Kris was the one manipulating Noelle.@@ru_alt6352

Unfortunately everyone is still frozen, but doing this puzzle singlehandedly causes spamtons takeover to fail

Also the text "Annoying Mouse puzzle 2" Appears

@@oi_bruv I love how it makes absolutely no sense if one thinks about it.

@@lpfan4491 It actually does if you consider the whole dark world is taking place inside their imaginations.

@@ZaxorVonSkyler To consider something, it actually has to be proven. Right now, we have absolutely no idea what the dark world even is. It seems to be related to dreams, but it could very well be independant of the characters themselves. As in, Cyber City would be completely the same if anyone else fell in instead of the 4 people that did.

Huge stretch.

sounds like it tho

I feel that Kris also has to watch as the player uses him as a means to manipulate and break Noelle.

@@memelurd7341 *Them btw, Kris is our resident NB. :P

@@klltx2001 It's a fictional character...

"Try hard,and maybe someday you will be a worthy rival" dude got beaten up in 2 seconds

Also if you attempt murder on spamton he says "You should have done that earlier and been the first to own my Commemorative ring"

@@qwertyuiop.lkjhgfdsa And if you actually buyed he says that you should buy 2

"Heh! Sometimes I can't believe how *cool* I am" That one's probably a stretch but its funny to think about And the frozen chicken flavor text

When Noelle joins your team, lancer also says "ho-ho! A soft cream is following you! Can we make them a bad guy?"

I think its in-game meaning depends on context, just like real life. So in pacifist, that option doesn't mean "murder partners", it means "more than just friends"

I thought something else was like “we’re not friends but we don’t hate each other… aquintences?”

@@greyflash77 same

@@greyflash77 Kris and noelle are actually friends

they are childhood close friends technically more than friends

I like to think it's from Kris.

You just know that Chis and Susana wouldn’t call Bardflay something like that! What would Torinail think of them?

She was that SHOCK huh? 🥁

If you keep an eye on her, you can even see her start her walk animation.

it was either data miners (most likely option) or discovered by someone who really hates noelle lol

It’s me, I did snowgrave accidentally

​@@nmc123y Or just out of pure Curiosity. Because they want to see what will happen if you push a nice sweet but also obviously mentally scarred girl like Noelle to her limits. What will happen then?

interesting...

@@AngraMainiiu Too bad that r/deltarune has gone private definitely

@@VaiCaDep0893 it did? what happened?

@@HeartAndMind34 A guy has been living under a rock again It was due to the API changes of Reddit that killed 3rd party apps, so every subreddit decided to go private. Most of them have been reopened by now, including r/deltarune

@@VaiCaDep0893 ah, so _that's_ what happened... thx for the info!

the entire point was that the fallen child WAS the player ingame wise, otherwise she wouldnt say that they were in control in the end

@@mechamedegeorge6786 no, in undertale the player was still the player. the comment is talking about you.

@@sleepingalatus What would be this "player" then? and why would toby fox explicitly say that you should name the fallen child as your own name if it wasnt meant to be you? just saying it was "you" means nothing, every game must have a player to work, that doesnt mean that mario didnt do anything to save princess peach or whatever and that we did did everything for him. people doing the genocide route in undertale or the snowgrave route in deltarune doesnt mean that they are evil and should be blamed for it, just that it is possible for the characters you play as to do so, the characters being Frisk/Chara in Undertale and whoever is controlling Kris in Deltarune, for their own reasons The idea that we, real humans who play undertale/deltarune are a part of lore makes no sense, since that would mean that all of the game is canonically not real, completely ruins the game message and only make characters like flowey seem more morally correct in killing everything and not caring about anyone, and the entire tragedy of him starting to see the people around him as toys for him to test with resets seem only comedic as he would be correct in thinking that

@Wolfgalaxy This is incorrect. Frisk is shown acting on their own multiple times during the game and talking to other characters. It cannot be Chara since the genocide route is required for them to take control. The whole point of Frisk having their own name is to be an entirely different person than you, Chara, or anyone else. They are not player incarnate, they just don't get much of a chance to speak (and when they do we're not allowed to hear what they're saying). You might be inclined to assume that Chara is the players stand-in instead, since they're the one you name, but this is also disproven since Chara acts on their own during the Genocide route without the players influence. They are also almost certainly the narrator for the entire game, and are even further proven to be a seperate entity from you when they bypass the 1 attack per turn rule to kill Sans for you, then proceed to kill Flowey entirely by themselves. During the Genocide route ending, Chara directly states that they gained their power from YOU, and end up taking your SOUL for themselves. The link between Chara and the Player isn't explained directly in-game, but we know there's some kind of connection since we're the ones that name Chara in the first place. Maybe the very act of naming them is what does this, since it's likely many players will choose their own name. Doing this links your SOUL to Chara somehow, and whenever you get stronger Chara does as well.

@Wolfgalaxy "Are we jokes to you?" Yes. Undertale is a completely different game from Mario, Sonic, or Metroid. This comparison means nothing. Undertale breaks these kinds of standard game tropes all the time, so trying to completely disregard the point by saying "other games don't do it" makes no sense. I hope we have both played the same game here. Just to be safe, I'll list out some of the evidence: - During the True Pacifist ending, Asriel realizes you are not Chara and asks you what your name is. Without any prompt from the player, Frisk responds with their own name. If Frisk were meant to simply be the player, this entire interaction wouldn't be happening. This name is instead used by Chara who is also not a self-insert for the player, even though they have the name the player chose. - During the Genocide route, Chara frequently wrests control from the player and acts on their own. They skip puzzles, kill others unprompted, and they are generally kind of a douche. The fact that this can even happen in Undertale already establishes that moments like this in the Neutral and Pacifist routes might be prompted by Frisk instead. If this is the case, Frisk would be responsible for moving behind the lamp at the beginning of Snowdin, giving Sans a "look" multiple times, asking Flowey why he's doing all this at the end of True Pacifist, and saying "I'm a stupid doodoo butt" and "I'm the legendary fartmaster" completely unprompted. There are countless instances of Frisk saying something to another character without any dialogue option for the player to choose. These actions are consistent and paint a clear picture of Frisk being patient and kind, the exact opposite of Chara. This means a lot considering what kind of game Undertale is, and the fact that the player is not fully in control is already established in the Genocide route. This alone should be proof enough if you played all of the routes and encountered these interactions yourself. - In the True Lab, you can encounter Snowdrake's mother. There are two specific ACTs in this fight in which the narrator, presumably Chara, proves that Frisk is their own entity capable of resisting the narrator and the player. If you Laugh, the narrator will state that you laugh uncontrollably at their suffering. They correct themselves as Frisk does not actually do this, with no input from the player. If you choose Heckle, the narrator states that you said something like "You look horrible. Why are you even alive?". Again, Frisk does not actually do this and the narrator corrects themselves. This resistance towards the narrator is not something the player can control. This is a meta interaction between the narrator and Frisk, which goes far beyond someone like Sonic talking to someone on his own. I mentioned Chara a lot because I wanted to be extra sure we were on the same page about the player not being fully in control, and Undertale's subversion of expectations. If you have played the game, that alone should say enough about Frisk not being a direct self-insert for the player. Clearly we were not on the same page, so hopefully this comment will fix some of those issues.

I don't think she cares about most of the frozen darkners (except that one addison) since she thinks it's just a dream

The point of no returns is killing Berdly. Sad, but true that Noelle doesn't care much about the Darkners. He is the only one she tried to save.

Also Berdly loses an arm iirc

@@resentfulsidecharacter3713 this happens if you don't go for mercy in both the second berdly fight (where the snowgrave fight takes place) and queen fight (opt to fight the queen instead of loosen the plug)

@@bagjpeg doesnt he lost arm after unplugging the wire and his arm cant no longer move in light world idk i havent played chapter 2yet

Yeah, since It Is the thing that makes both routes different: berdly's Life After that

In undertale, it was said that the angel will go to the underground and free them, either from their prison or from the mortal world.

@@randomboiiyi3880 Specifically, that was told when you ask about the "Delta Rune", the emblem of the royal family

What? No, that was toby posting the sprite for her dark world outfit in a drch2 status update as a hint, there was no picture of noelle hidden in the files or whatever

@@leedlelel2373 oh wait what

there was nothing like that in the files, toby posted it himself

Yep. When I accidentally said to not proceed I heard a beep.

And every time you proceed further, it's Toby's groan

There is no way in hell this man just put a /j, in a youtube commet, that's a joke, that litterally is impossible to take seriously. Bro how much has twitter influenced you to put tone indicators on everything.

@@YaBoiAshX it's just two characters that barely mean anything

@@flowerzika7852 It's stupid and it should have never been a thing, I accept it existing on twitter, but on RU-vid? Bro how are people stupid enough to misunderstand this as a serious and not a joke, there was no need for a /j and yet here it is, because apparently OP thought somebody would take this seriously, I think i lost like 3 braincells just typing that. Sarcasm will probably be illegal in a few years now.

its a challenge to be overcome

i didn't know about this until after publishing the video 🥺🥺

I love it

the path doesn’t open until you freeze the enemy’s. good idea though

it’s called the weird route because the game files refer to it as that

@@thewafflepancakes9162 You are correct but what does that have to do with sparing the enemies after the other steps in the comment? The whole idea of these games is to explore every option, not to just copy one or two play styles. Let’s Plays really do take the fun out of everything.

It's a halberd but ok

@@osianosohzrz You missed the chance to call it a halbird

@@zhuiwie8488Well canonically, knowing berdly, it is probably called halbird.

nah the addison said "angel" in like, a "honey" or "sweetie" kinda way

@@pisslordsupreme that may be, ill replay it with a different name to see. Spamton did say [Angel] [Angel] when i went to get the thorn ring and it was the same in this video, Edit: I just watched another video and you're right he does say Angel. It was just an interesting coincidence.

@@pisslordsupreme the addison probably did mean it that way although it could also be hinting that Noelle is the angel from the prophecy

actually, i think the game checks after the fight anyways to see what method you did after "proceed," why it loads in everything after as it would normal route (no missing cones, save spot in normal location), i would check it out but i really don't think that it would be snowgrave mansion and dialogue, since you have to go through the rest of the story flags. to be concise: the snowgrave aborted jingle plays and everything loads in as if it were normal route, and you'd have to get past the flags of the 4-party section and getting captured.

can we call it the nugget route

@@thorgidogofthunder yes, yes we can

@@thorgidogofthunder gamer route, manipulate berdly into thinking it’s a standard rpg where you need to “get Lv”

I think that Berdly would somehow revolt agaisnt the player actions, as he can be serious if he wants to.

@Kr1s If there is could you send me the link to it? I require fanfics.

He literally showed in the video that it becomes unavailable

@@Human-ui4uo I literally didn't pay attention..... Oops!

@@flowerzika7852 haha you’re all good, honest mistake!

I could read it…?

I could read it- but you can always slow down the video at the beginning!

If you were referring to something else, the menu button can be held to skip through text quickly, I believe.

They are.

Uh. Its not kris, its you, the player

You can't use that spell in the normal battle against Berdly.

Note: You cannot currently get the Twisted Sword.

yea everyone knows that happens so i didn't include it. this is showcasing the different ways you can stop a snowgrave route

I don't think it's anything

No

No you must unlock it and then Not use it you mean using it outside snowgrave

The option for Snowgrave disappears