DELTARUNE / Spamton Character Analysis / A Nuanced Tragedy 

Personally, I have always thought the reason Kris is so upset after the Spamton fight isn't simply that he worries about not being able to cut his own strings, but rather, because he saw what happened when Spamton _did_ cut his strings: he collapsed, dead. I feel like that moment made Kris think "what if that happens to me? what if this soul controlling me is also what's keeping me alive?"

another thing that makes this even more tragic is that, if spamton were to succeed at achieving his goal and were to steal kris's soul. he would still have someone pulling his strings. that person being us. there was no possible way for spamton to succeed...

Even if Toby confirmed that the merchandise is not canon, the "SPAMTON'S SPECIL FUN PAK!!!" shows past (non-corrupted) Spamton in a red suit inside a "cungadero". P.S. My favorite line from Spamton comes from the SnowGrave route and it feels like it's a direct parallel to Spamton's life (think about the YOU/YOUR referring to Spamton): "GO AHEAD, [Kid]... CALL ALL YOU WANT! NO ONE WILL EVER PICK UP GO AHEAD AND [Scream] INTO THE [Receiver]. THE [Voice] RUNS OUT EVENTUALLY YOUR [Voice] THEIR [Voice] UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU ARE ALL ALONE THERE WILL BE NO MORE [Miracles] NO MORE [Magic]. YOU LOST IT WHEN YOU TRIED TO SEE TOO FAR.... ... YOU LOST IT... YOU MAKE ME [Sick]!"

He couldn't become a big shot again in game, but he truly has become a big shot in the community

I'm literally a pointy-nosed salesman with slicked-back hair. I constantly struggle with the idea that my best days may be behind me. So, you can imagine how uncanny it was for me to see a pointy-nosed salesman with slicked-back hair struggling with their fall from grace. This great analysis helped be appreciate Spamton even more, in a way that I never expected. I never expected such a relatable character.

The original version of the Pinocchio story ends with Pinocchio being hung from a tree by a noose ... which is kind of like a string. Also the person that makes him into real boy is a BLUE fairy while another blue person prevents Spamton from becoming one.

Spamton is certainly gonna be one of the many five other wacky side characters in Deltarune, time will tell if he'll be usurped, but I still feel he's special when it comes to just the eerieness of him alone.

I'd like to point out that spamton ain't dead It's like how Jevil morphs himself on the Jevilsknife, Spamton still has his mind attached to the glasses (dealmarker) or is a part of it in some way, and can most likely perform acts with the spirit of spamton as a glasses, like how the Jevilsknife smiles at Noelle. This is further proven by the fact that when you fill your [[INVENTORIUM]] with 48 [[Half Price Salami]], Spamton fucking yells at you for destroying that one moment where he regain sanity and is on a fucking character arc

I'm happy to see this video call to attention that Spamton actually cares about Kris, I haven't seen anyone else mention it.

Having been homeless for years now, and having tried to fix that through trying to "make it big" myself, Spamton hit extremely close to home once I learned about the entirety of his story. It's sobering, having been on both sides of the fence now...

Just yesterday I was in deep thought over the character of Spamton. For the first time I truly grasped the disturbing eeriness of his character and backstory. In one moment, all my views of his ridiculous, broken humor-filled dialogue shifted from absurd comedy to the ramblings of a character with a broken mind, driven to insanity by hidden knowledge that still torments him. It took time, but on that day I believe I truly grasped Spamton, at last. The next day, this comes out. I couldn't be more excited to dive even deeper into the intrigue of Spamton.

Also, I think something interesting you can interpret about spamtons character is the puppetscarf description says “For those that abandon healing”

One thing that has stood out to me is that the phone in the back of Spamton's shop is always ringing. We know that Spamton left mid-conversation the last time he spoke to the person on the phone. So it's likely that they didn't abandon him after he left the mansion, they wanted to stay in contact but he declined answering. Knowing Spamton's themes it is probably because he didn't want to act as their puppet anymore.

My junior year of high school, I made very fast friends with a person who’s become one of my best friends. They were a senior at the time, and practically as soon as they legally could their parents kicked them out, with from what I know basically no support no planning, parents just wanted them gone. Luckily they have a very supportive friend group and partner, and were able to settle with them. Human compassion isn’t always given as it should, and we should always strive to compensate for what others don’t give.

This is, by far, the best analysis of Spamton I have ever seen. I'm glad you talked about his perseverance/determination, and how he will always be destined to fail; really interesting points that people rarely bring up when talking about Spamton. I'm also happy you talked about how real his story is. As you said, he isn't an evil leader, or a demon from an alternate universe, he's just a guy. What happened to Spamton is something that happens to a lot of people. Whilst I was expecting you to touch on this a bit, I did not expect you to go into such great detail. I'm really glad you did, as I think it's one of the most important aspects of Spamton's character, and really is the peak of Toby Fox's writing When I heard you were making a video on Spamton, I was expecting some sort of complex, far fetched theory. I was expecting that you'd come up with insane theories that nobody has ever seen before, and again, I'm glad you didn't. Spamton's story is actually very simple: He was just an Addison who got famous, and later got that fame stripped away from him. Sure, it's complex in the sense that there are a lot of missing details, and that the story given to us is very vague, but overall it's a simple, realistic story. It's so realistic it's scary And of course, this incredibly unfortunate and tragic story comes from a character who's full name is 'Spamton G Spamton' and has the most poorly drawn shop art in the game. I can't wait to see what Toby Fox has in store for us next

The pacifist ending paints a very grim picture of Spamton, the other endings also never end well. Defeating Spamton NEO through violence makes him convinced the body is able to transform into an EX form, however, the body explodes shortly after. In the snowgrave route, Kris helps Spamton not only obtain the smooth taste of NEO, but also take back what he lost to some extent. He had taken over the mansion, and nobody was gonna stop him except his only friend, who had given him everything. Spamton has helped Kris on their quest to committing atrocities by giving the party hints, as well as the very powerful Thorn Ring. Kris/The player's betrayal forces him to attempt to stop Kris from sealing away his ideal world, only to be turned into a chunk of ice by Noelle. I think having him be the final unskippable boss of the route is very fitting. Very depressing all things considered

This was incredible. I'm shocked that this has managed to make me appreciate Spamton as a character even more (and he was already probably in my top 3 favourite Deltarune characters) You hit everything I would want an analysis of Spamton to hit and more. Really exited to see what you have in store for the other parts.

i think its important to note that Spamton's depressed/sane dialogue is always in normal case and uncorrupted all-caps dialogue is shared between Spamton and Jevil, enforcing their connection, but Spamton's loss of caps at the end may show a change in heart, a change in mind

I will now exclusively concieve of the genocide route as a manifestation of the idea "what if the power of friendship were used for evil?"

It'd be even more tragic if Spamton recognised Kris was being enslaved by the player, and sought to free them from us by severing their connection to the soul - just not realising that it would kill Kris in the process.

I also want to point out that, after spamton got evicted, he was lucky enough to have clothes left, but even those clothes were his Swatch impersonating clothes. He didn't even have clothes to call his own. The iconic look that we all know and love spamton for _isn't even his_. One can make a case for his music too which has leitmotifs from other bosses, that too isn't fully his.

On the prediction of each secret boss having a different reaction to their lack of true freedom, I think we’ll see someone who is apathetic to it. It would be another extreme-my choices don’t matter, so I won’t make any. That could also be further split into two sides of the same perspective, with one being hopeless and empty, and the other being sort of zen.

I feel that Spamton was always meant to be an allusion to Arthur Miller’s Death of a Salesman, given his role as a failed salesman constantly trying to make it big in the world with the existentialist themes that come with it and his association with phones. If you make another video on Spamton, I think it might be interesting to explore this connection and how it explores the existentialist themes of Deltarune

Something to further solidify the bond between Kris and Spamton - After Kris brought the disc, he completely believed that Kris is geniuenly trying to help him - he "uploaded" himself into the disc, ultimately getting rid of his previous body and becoming defensless. If Kris wanted, they could just stomp on the disc to break it, killing Spamton. Spamton must have truly trusted them to just straight up giving him the control over his body - especially given how important freedom is to him. There is so much in deltarune you can read into and I love it. Great video!

this is definitely one of the best spamton analyses i will ever see. people often like to reduce spamton to just being a wacky salesman, but i think your analysis shows just how much of "A Nuanced Tragedy" spamton's story is. for a character that many people will never interact with outside of the first encounter, toby fox really put a lot of thought into spamton.

the part where spamton is put down on the electric chair.. breathtakingly sad

My favourite part of spamton is the shop music, despite how wacky and creepy he is, the music is melancholy. It's slow and haunting, it gives me the feeling of something lost and/or broken. It feels like it should be playing over those pictures of old, abandoned shopping centres in the liminal spaces compilations. Spamton isn't dangerous because he's powerful, because he's crazy or because he's got unique knowledge of the world; he's dangerous because he's desperate. He's so desperate for freedom that it's eroded his mind, his personality, and his morality. We obviously don't know what he was like before, maybe he's always been able and willing to hurt others, but I think the fact that he was playing by the rules for so long, not trying to cheat or swindle his way to the top, means that he was originally a decent person. If he didn't fall so hard, if someone had taken him in, given him food (do darkners need food to survive?) and shelter, maybe he'd just be bitter and depressed, but not desperate enough to encourage a mass murder just so he could use the distraction to sneak into Queen's mansion. Then again, I don't think that's the whole issue, figuring out what Spamton is trying to say is difficult but it seems he's trying to escape something greater than just poverty and societal neglect. He seems to believe that he's trapped on a much more fundamental level, and he recognises Kris as being in a similar situation. My theories are that Spamton is either trying to escape the Dark World, seeing it as a kind of prison or lesser world, and is trying to reach the Light World, which is where Lightners, who are apparently like Gods to the Darkners, reside. If the Darkners are really just meant to serve Lightners, then Spamton could see it as slavery that he needs to escape. Almost all of the other Darkners seem perfectly happy with the arrangement, or at least don't seem to think about it or care, so Spamton feels stuck in a world of happy slaves where he's the only one who wants out. If this is the case, it makes sense why Spamton doesn't seem to care about other Darkners, or even Lightners other than Kris that much. They're all blind and happily ignorant to the fundamental injustice of their existence, and trying to teach them otherwise makes them hate and ignore you. After a while, it makes sense that he'd eventually see them as barely alive, barely real. Encouraging Kris to manipulate his friend and slaughter Darkners is fine, Spamton and Kris are the only ones who 'get' it, who understand what things really are, and if everyone else refuses to see what's in front of them, then that's their fault. Alternatively, and perhaps more interestingly, Spamton could be aware of something much greater and far more terrifying than that. Something that entraps them all on a far more deeper and fundamental level. There are constant moments that give the impression that something is pulling the strings, something is making things happen for a reason and moving the world of Deltarune into a dark fate. There seems to be a constant undercurrent of impending doom. That the end is near and can't be avoided or stopped. We know about the Roaring, but that could theoretically be prevented. Things seem to be getting darker and darker, but exactly why is unknown. Obviously, Gaster, he's one possible reason. Gaster could be manipulating things behind the scenes to reach some goal, or to setup/continue an experiment. Maybe he's testing Kris (and us) and so appropriate obstacles need to be placed in our way to observe how we handle them. It would explain why Gaster would drive Jevil and Spamton insane, to provide a challenge for us to overcome. Maybe the theory that Deltarune's world was created by Gaster as an experiment is true, and driving it to ruin was always intended. Exactly what he would get from doing so is unknown and hard to figure out, but perhaps he's focusing on the Player. Clearly he is aware of the Player's unique power and influence on the world, and Deltarune is a safe way to study this strange entity and their capabilities without it affecting any other world. The Player as a outside force affecting the fictional world has been done before, but I think Deltarune is specifically calling attention to the strangeness and inherent horror of it. To the characters in Undertale and Deltarune, we are some invisible force, intelligent and sapient, that manipulates and controls aspects of their world that they can't understand. They don't truly comprehend what we are, or our motivations, or our actions. We know we're just some fat nerd playing a indie game about furries, but they only see the effects of our choices. Noelle doesn't know that Kris is being controlled by a person playing a video game, but she knows that a voice came from Kris that wasn't Kris's voice told her to keep killing and she could not disobey. I think Gaster is fascinated by the Player, and he clearly seems to know about us and how our control over the world works more than anyone else. While it could be purely out of scientific curiosity, it wouldn't be a stretch to suggest that our ability to insert ourselves into a world and inhabit it has special interest to Gaster, who may be struggling to accomplish exactly that. On the other hand, our ability to control the fate of a world and it's narrative is extremely powerful. The potential wouldn't be underestimated by someone as smart as Gaster, whether it's to allow him to save others from unavoidable fates, or to make himself into something greater than ever imagined. There are other things it could be, rather than just Gaster, but at the moment there's just not enough evidence. We still barely know anything about Gaster, whether he's got good intentions or not, his main goals, his personality, his true appearance. I'd say that most evidence seems to paint him in a bad light, I can't say that he's ever had a good impact on anything so far. Everything he does seems manipulative or so vague that any potential good is hard to find. His dialogue to us seems polite and respectful, but that wouldn't be hard to fake. If he is the one who spoke to Jevil and Spamton, then the fact they ended up insane, and seemingly abandoned in Spamton's case, makes him seem sinister and malicious. If Jevil was the only one driven insane, then I'd suggest that Gaster might have tried to explain how the world works out of good intentions, but the knowledge was too much and broke the mind of someone who couldn't handle it. Spamton seems deliberately abandoned, his rise seemed planned and his fall was either deliberate or caused by a massive lack of care about Spamton's wellbeing. It's really hard to justify Spamton's abandonment as something with good intentions, or an accident. If Gaster wasn't the one behind Jevil and Spamton, then that instantly makes everything SO much more complicated. We really don't have the evidence to explain it yet, the only option is crazy theories that really fall into absurdity. Wow I didn't think I'd type this much, I really got away from my original point. I was just gunna say that I liked how his shop music changed the tone of the scene from pure surreal comedy into a tragedy, and makes his creepiness shine through so much more due to the unsettling feeling.

When the flavor text mentions "The Audience" it's an allegory for Spamton's changing perspective on relying on others. After phone man abandons him, he's desperately looking to anyone else he perceives as a loving supporter to keep his business afloat. "Spamton begs to the audience. Spamton prays to the audience." but now that he's not successful anymore, everyone is leaving and taking their support with them. "Spamton begs the audience to stop taking the furniture out of his room." It's only after this that Spamton realizes the truth. "There is no audience."

VERY fond of your focus on the "the broad strokes of Spamton's story is a very normal and common thing in real life" angle. People get so caught up in the humor and charm of his more surface-level [QUALITY]s that the unrelenting, overwhelming tragedy of his story and its themes are often forgotten. I think Spamton's lack of friends is partly the result of coincidence, having not been given a very large amount of opportunities to make them, but I think it's mostly the result of his main character flaw: his one-mindedness. Despite his loneliness, and his apparent generosity and goodwill towards the friends he's had, Spamton does not seem to make any effort to befriend anyone who could not help his ultimate goal in some obvious tangible way. Every relationship of his that we're shown or told about (which is to say, Mike is still up in the air for my little theory) carries at least a subtext of being transactional. In every relationship, he's only ever buying or selling. Spamton only acts friendly to people who help him. People who can get him further along his chosen path. He only approaches people he wants something from, so it's fitting that once he's at the top that the world treats him the exact same way. At the end of the day, Spamton wants freedom. He wants to stand above everything, ascended to Heaven, unburdened by any limitations or obligations. Rich, powerful, unencumbered. Flying free, without strings. And I think, for the purpose of my little metaphor, that connections with others are ultimately just another type of string. One that, ultimately, at the end of it all, he would not hesitate to cut. Spamton's story is the tragedy of a society that sets people out on an impossible quest for an unattainable ideal, one that punishes their attempts to achieve it; it's the story of someone who truly believed in the [crap]italist [American] Dream and gave everything they had to achieve it. He was sold on a lie, and as a result of believing that lie he was doomed from the very beginning.

hey jaru.... you good?? who am i kidding, of course you arent after this emotional trainwreck. but yeah, that societal neglect is why i always keep a box of granola bars and a case of water bottles in my car. nobody should have to be worried about the next time theyre gonna eat. if any of you out there can do the same, please do. aside from the horrifying reality check, this was an excellent analysis. not as goofy as i expected, but you pull off this tone well. keep up the good work (:

Dang... That went scarily real, really fast. That part about real life society hit hard, man. Well, I live in Germany's countryside and don't really khow what it's like in the biggest cities here but everytime I go to some bigger cities for college or whatever I always struggle to think about the people "living" on the side of the streets. I'm not exactly the richest guy as some young adult trying to learn a job but I still try to do something by dropping a couple bucks but is that really helping those people? Idk... By the way hyped for the rest of this "Series" of yours, just don't crush, aight?

You know what, I like the assumption of Kris and Spamton actually being true friends. Even if it is a tragic relationship I honestly find it heartwarming I kind of want it to be my headcanon

I get what your saying about Spamton and nobody being at fault but I still feel the Addisons are partially to blame. Sure you don't have to be freinds with everyone but they were freinds with him and left him behind out of jealousy. They know he lives in a dump and he isn't just a random stranger to them and yet they won't even try to help him out by simply being a freind. I don't know what it's like to be in the position of the addisons but they didn't do a single thing to help him. Also btw, there's no reason to believe Gaster didn't cause Spamton's insanity on purpose so if he did then he is absolutely the villain.

just reading the title of this one i know im gonna love it. I've always saw spamton as the most tragic and honestly the most relatable character in all of Deltarune. Probably my favourite videogame character of all time. Gonna watch this one while [soaking up the acid]

I fully gasped in delight when I realized how long this is, I haven't stopped thinking about spamton since chapter 2 came out

dude it makes me so happy all the little things about him you mentioned in this video that rattles around in my brain that most analysis/normal playthroughs miss. especially the friendship themes god his relationship w kris is so :( i love how you mentioned that he wasnt trying to hurt them in the first fight, that even as neo he wasnt trying to kill them in a way thatd cause them to cease to be. and also... i feel like spamtons ending in the neutral run (especially w the pacifist context) is so. like hes not living for himself anymore hes living for himself and his friends. so he can give up on goals of freedom to help kris whos got a better shot at it by becoming an item. man.

Currently mid video, just wanted to add a few notes to Spamton's first on screen appearance: It's vaguely hinted that Spamton was stalking Kris around Cyber City, similar to Flowey in Undertale. If true, the fact that Spamton seems to recognize our puppeteering 'immedately' after meeting Kris would make sense. The introduction dumpster ally was likely a split second decision because Kris was alone for the first time since catching up with Noelle. On the more speculative side, it does seem like Spamton has a metagame awareness like sans and Ralsai, but the only clear hint at this capability is that Spamton pops out of the dumpster not specifically because Kris is passing by, but because he senses our ingame view hovering over the dumpster. However, that doesn't mean he has metagame understanding. He could have just noticed our presence overlooking Kris all the time and concluded that it's the view of the puppeteer.

"[Spamton] started out believing he was a real man with real agency, but as his life went on, he started to realize that his freedom wasn't as real as he had thought." Extremely and unfortunately relatable. Except I didn't go mad pursuing freedom, just depressed 😂

33:48 I never really thought about it. Is it a stretch? Yeah. Can we ever be certain that this is even at all intentional? No. Is it intentional? Probably not. Could it be explained in future chapters since as of typing this comment only Chapter 2 is out? Yes. Is this speculation? Yes. I’m not taking about what you said in the video here. This time stamp is where I currently have the video paused. A side by side of Spamton NEO’s fight, and Jevil’s. Is there something about those two fights that strikes an idea in your head? I’m not talking about who we’re fighting or the attacks or anything. I’m talking about where they’re taking place, or rather more specifically the movement of the fights in the background, if that makes any sense. Jevil’s fight goes around and around forever, a loop. A loop to me that could mean anything really, about Jevil’s mind maybe going in circles, the chaos of Jevil’s idea of freedom knowing how he is bound to his world and can’t do anything about it so he just embraces his knowledge of it and goes crazy, or maybe, his fight going in circles in movement means he’s happy where he is and doesn’t need to try any further to do anything about it. He’s going in circles maybe because he’s, as said, not going anywhere. Compare that to Spamton now. His fight, I won’t talk about the obvious things. The carts, the “Spamtown” in the background (which I actually might just add in something I think is very interesting that I hope everyone notices, in Spamtown includes all the weird buildings and whatnot but among them all are churches. You can see it there, churches. Not Spamton-ified either. This VERY small detail I think is very important to the story as personally my belief for where this story is headed has something to do with Father Alvin, and it’s VERY obvious if you look closely that Father Alvin has to be important to the story, I’d even go as far as to say “The Knight” level of importance to the story. You *did* notice how there’s a very weird interaction scene you have with him after Chapter 2’s dark world, and you all *DID* notice how he’s somehow been referenced to for these last two beginning chapters of Deltarune right? The drawing in the room after Chapter 1? The room that could of which a large person could fit inside? ALVIN LITERALLY HAS A HUGE SHELL ON HIM? Anyway that’s just some parts of my explanation for why I think Father Alvin is really important, which was just sparked again when I noticed the church in Spamton NEO’s background) or anything that’s obvious design, that stuff could be even answered in future chapters for why we see Spamton NEO choose his fight to have it that way. Anyway, what I just thought of was that Jevil is going around in circles as I said, while Spamton, his fight is moving forward. There’s no loops, there’s no going back- actually wait a second. Okay this is an even FURTHER stretch now but let me say what I wanted to say since beginning this comment. I was basically going to say how you talked about Spamton’s perseverance so much that he never gave up on his quest for freedom that this literal fight when compared to Jevil’s could show how he kept pushing forward, a straight line to freedom. Okay with THAT stretch out of the way let me be a hypocrite now and talk about the design of Spamton’s fight. No not the actual looks of stuff, the same thing I was rambling on about. The movement, motion, whatever you want to call it. You see us as Kris and everyone else, we all actually move forward on the tracks. Spamton is moving with us but, he’s backwards to the direction he should be going. This didn’t matter to me as much, I might’ve brought up how I thought about how this movement might symbolise that Kris and the gang are the true ones going forward in this story, and how Spamton is not. They’re dealing with Spamton and moving forward because that’s what’s set to happen that’s what’s going to happen indefinitely, we all even know this maybe before we know what the actual outcome of the fight is, that Spamton fails. Sure, it happens when we spare him that the tracks keep going our way, and that’s because we “helped” Spamton become free (and we see what happens to him when he’s “free”), but the reason I want to go on an even further stretch of thought, is because of what I remembered when you DON’T spare Spamton NEO. The movement of the fight doesn’t go our way anymore, it goes HIS way. When having attacked him enough, in his final moments, the movement of the fight goes BACKWARDS, not our way, SPAMTON’S way. Flipped. To me this is just a small continuation for what I said earlier, the fight was going our way, the movement on the tracks was going our way because we are the heroes of the story, and when even sparing spamton we just show him another way of being “free” by cutting his wires. But when we attack him, it’s obvious the suit is going to explode and break to us, but then the carts start going backwards. Spamton’s dialogue here to me is unforgettable, just as much as his fall is, when his wires are cut, for me and for everyone. He talks about how he’s going to turn into another form to attack us. The smoke isn’t bad, it’s [Victory!] smoke. The tracks are going backwards. Spamton isn’t going to die! He’s going to win. The wheels are going backwards, faster. At this point Spamton’s body is breaking. But he’s not done just yet! This is his time to shine! This fight is going HIS way! The direction of the fight is going his way, faster than before now the carts go backwards, Spamton coming forwards to us. At this point Spamton is losing his form faster, but to him it’s just the starting process of turning into his EX form! But the part that hurts the most to read is again his famous line which he brings back one last time before his unknowingly soon defeat. Him screaming to Mike to see if he’s watching instead of Heaven stood out to me here, because to me since he wanted to change form and THOUGHT he was going to, somehow while his body was freaking out, him calling out for Mike here was to show how he still believes Mike will be there to watch him (or maybe he knows Mike is there? We did see what possibly is Mike in the dark with that smiling face remember…) as he wins his battle. The carts are going faster backwards than ever before, Spamton’s direction. Him screaming and stuttering “I’m finally going to be a BIG SHOT!” right before he blows up, to me it hurts since I really love this character’s story and how well it was put together, so seeing THAT phrase be his last before he could’ve blown up and died, it’s definitely something to remember as much as his fall is when sparing him. Anyway, that was my long stretched out idea I got from, mind you, an ACCIDENTAL pause on the video that just had a side by side comparison with pictures of Spamton’s fight and Jevil’s fight. I hate how much I love Deltarune sometimes because since even with Undertale I can’t stop thinking about the little things, the little things that could be important. I love speculation a little too much maybe, but the only way you could’ve known that is if any of you actually read down fully this far! So if you are one of those people or one of those who just scrolled down to see what I said last (I can see you), thank you for reading my comment! I hope my ramble was not too annoying to read, and if it was, well rip to the fat minute you wasted reading it! Have a lovely day :) - See you all, again, somewhere in RU-vid’s comment sections. 😊

Your videos make me realize how much I have been sleeping on Kris’ character. I now can say that Kris is what I consider one of the most interesting Deltarune characters.

I can tell, you’re the type of kid to get a 115% in English, when the teacher originally says no extra credit

We have not seen what happens when a darkner actually obtains a human soul yet. What would have happened if Spamton completed this process? That would be an interesting theory.

You don't understand, i watched every single video about deltarune that you made I'm addicted fr Doesn't matter how long they are, they always catch my attention usually i put them in background when i draw but then i stop drawing to listen at it better for how interesting it is if you know what i mean This new video is also in fact a blessing because since i finished them all i ran out of drawing background sound to put😎👍

I would like to pick up this line from my another most favorite game to sums up Spamton's life arc. “Apathy is death. Worse than death, because at least a rotting corpse feeds the beasts and insects.” Atlease Kris is the last one who show him sympathy, no matter how Spamton try to do any ludicrous plan again and again.

I knew Spamton was tragic but this video really made me realize it's more tragic than I initially thought. I have a newfound appreciation for the funny salesman

Babe, wake up, Jaru uploaded a new video

I want to give him a hug, poor guy. At least he had a friend in the end

i have to say, this is the most touching video ive seen to date this whole video actually managed to make me cry. i dont usually cry anymore so if this manages to bring out just even a singular tear, it just goes to show how powerful this message is what i love about spamton is that his character is so real, hes just like you and me, a man, with a dream, who tried to make it big, but he was ALWAYS doomed to fail, this man. had the will and determination of a thousand suns, he tried tried and TRIED for anything to work, after years of pure torture, abandonment, neglect and wrath. he could never get anywhere. the thing is like you mentioned, he was never harmed, nor he was helped, everyone just watched him suffer. it was merely "just business" the theme with determination is that it can get you everywhere, notice how spamton DID indeed become a big shot with the person behind the phone, but he never found his true freedom, the power to choose his own fate, he couldn't set himself free but the real thing that made me cry was "the heartbreak of lonliness" section notice how he gets far, but the moments he actually gets places is with kris, their only friend. the part where you said they were most likley willing to sacrifice themselves for spamton's plan really got to me, cuz kris really wants to help spamton. what i love is that with the sheer compassion and empathy, they were able to almost reach what spamton calls "heaven" after everything hes been thru, kris managed to get him to the biggest place he could get, by sheer compassion. kris helped spamton when no one did, everyone just idly watched him rot, as he changed and morphed into a corpse that bearly represented himself anymore, just a husk of nothing. but with kris's help, he finally was able to be happy for once the phrase "nows your chance to be a big shot" holds so much meaning, because he after all the betrayal, he was still willing to help kris to be big, to reach heaven, he truly had good intent, after how much his mind was warped and dismembered from his hardships, he just wanted them to BOTH be free. and the aftermath of spamton neo REALLY shows how far the power of friendship can actually get you. you cant defy fate, but you can find your "freedom" the part where he accepts his demise, is one of the best things to happen to him, because kris *finally put him to rest* after everything hes been thru, hes been fighting a war that was predetermined, a war he could never win, but the moment kris helped him get big and "set him free" he stops. hes satisfied. because after all that, he finally found a friend, someone who could help him, relate to him, but mostly someone who was just _willing._ spamton, after everything that happened to him, was finally put to rest, not because he gave up, but because he was _satisfied_ satisfied that *someone was with him in the dark.* i could never find my favorite character in this game, but i think i have one now truly. thank you for this video, the effort, the metaphors, the meaning, everything. truly. thank you, just note that in your toughest times, we're with you in the dark.

2:47 Spamton used to look normal. He had a red jacket, as seen in the merch. Then it’s implied he shrunk in the acid in Queen’s mansion, and then started cosplaying as Swatch to become popular again

I i i i usually dont feel much emotions, but i think I am feeling something

Man, it's so great to relax after a week of work with a nice cold drink and some good food. It couldn't possibly get any bett- *3J uploads* LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I walked in expecting memes. I came out with tears and a whole new perspective on people down on their luck. This is a masterpiece of a video 💕

Main thing I learned from Spamton? If it seems too good to be true, it probably is.

*Hugs Spamton plush* I won't leave you alone Spamton 😭

Friendship is a pretty underrated literary tool - or rather, it's very misused in alot of media. Toby uses it very beautifully in both Undertale and Deltarune.

why is this man on the internet making me cry so many times talking about a robot cartoon character

I have a mini theory that I cant directly back up but makes sense to me: The person on the phone IS mike, but mike isnt some tv menace, hes someone who manipulated a friend into doing illegal business to his own benefit. I think that spamton fell off because he was doing illegal things but was able to bail and live in the dumpsters. This is very low level but I feel like it could fit somewhere

after this i am never gonna unequip the deal maker from kris again

I found this to be an amazing analysis on Spamton's character! though, I found it a bit lacking in terms of what kind of freedom that Spamton was trying to get at, same with Jevil. Darkners are beings made out objects, who don't seem to know that facet of their existence, and knowing about such things would likely drive someone mad as they try to escape this realm that they're trapped in. it has a lot of parallels to how Monsters in UNDERTALE were seeking freedom from the underground, and they only achieved this by ceasing the war on humanity and start to understand each other... meanwhile, in Deltarune, as King puts it: "Your very existence goes against our own". Darkners are made from Lightner's stuff, but as it's going right now, it seems that their very existence was made to not be one that was fair or mutual, but rather one that is put in favor of the Lightners who can just completely ignore the Darkner's struggle and live their lives normally! all the while Darkners are *dependent* on Lightners. if I were to say that there was an essential aspect of this that you failed to mention, it is Ralsei's dismissal of the entire event. as you said in the video, we turn a blind eye to people in need and just say: "That was just a homeless person, it's not my responsibility to care." which was very similar to Ralsei's "he was just a corrupted program". there seems to be many of these Darkners who become aware of their existence, go mad and then are just forgotten. now, to get into THE MEATY STUFF: I believe that Ralsei is one of the people who this theme of freedom is referring to, as he seems to know a fair bit on how Darkners truly work. while Jevil has gone insane and come to the conclusion that nothing he does matters and thus "I CAN DO ANYTHING!", then Ralsei would be one that has come to the conclusion that nothing he does matters and thus "I'll just obey." rather than coming to the conclusion that nothing he does matters and trying to search for that freedom like Spamton, Ralsei is simply *complacent* with his nature and thinks of Darkners as objects to serve Lightners. I will spare you the rest of my thoughts, but if I were to guess at a new character with this sort of theme, I would go with one that is nihilistic, one that doesn't think anything they do matters and they might as well not do anything. either way, that was what I wanted to say.

I like how you just hinted at Gaster instead of going "It was Gaster all along!!" It gets tiring sometimes when almost every Deltarune theory videos' conclusions are something about Gaster. Keep up the great work man!

Not gonna lie, laughed when you said the reason you felt those themes of Spamton is because you... care so much about people. Really sounded like a setup for "i also have been kicked out" or "because I also am a homeless person"

Can we just appreciate this man for putting self made subtitles in hour long videos?

A thought that popped up when I was watching was with the whole concept of "You literally cannot win unless you have the aid of friends", might serve a huge purpose in future chapters. While Kris had little to no friends in the beginning, after chapter two, they gained so many friends after their adventures. If Kris never became friends with Susie and Ralsei, the player might as well been under their control for the rest of their life. Now that they do, they have the chance of freedom. On the other hand, who doesn't have any friends in this world...? You don't. No one knows of your existence except only for Kris. And most certainly, Kris doesn't see you as a friend. Also, unfortunately, Susie and Ralsei are most likely not going to be very friendly of you after learning what you have been doing with Kris. At the end of this story, unless you somehow make yourself present without malice, everyone is going to have a happy ending.... except for you, the interloper of this world.

The desperation of spamton is also another good character analysis on him

Not me tearing up at a spamton analysis video 😭 But for real, wow. Toby is a twisted genius, and your analysis is really really great

Fun Fact: Spamtons short stature can be explained with a seemingly throwaway line during the lake of acid section of the game. Ralsei asks how anyone could fit inside the tiny houses you find during that segment, and Queen says it’s because they “Shrink from the acid.”

Let’s go! Time to see what wackiness Jaru can provide for us this time.

Holy moly, a one and half hour video from Jaru! This day can't be more perfect

I do not have any add or some theory to write here, I'm sure there are already enough comments writing about that. The only thing I'm here to write is a thank you:) I've watched lots of other videos about Spamtom G. Spamton already and they've all portrayed the man so... unrealistic for him. I'm very very glad you managed to get his character correctly and explained how bad his unlucky life just is. So thank you so so much for making this video and i bid you a lovely day^^

2:52 Right off the bat, I will say this was not how he originally looked. Acid shrinks, after all. 25:07 Masterful story telling on that whole section. I actually teared up a little when Spamton gave up, and I knew the whole story already! Well done. 42:18 This is the point where I disagree. While Spamton becoming destitute and living poorly has no true villain to blame. *_Throwing a homeless, mentally ill man into an acid river, listening to his screams, begging for it to stop burning, as he slowly shrinks and deforms is incredibly cruel,_* even if he was attempting to break in. A prison would have been a much more humane and understandable punishment for trespassing. The fact that this was approved or even commanded by the Queen, and that Swatch seems to carry no particular regret for that event, is clearly inexcusable behaviour. This is worsened by the fact that it is very likely that they literally tried to do the exact same thing to Rouxls Kaard, as said by yours truly, Swatch. (Look below in the replies, I'm not requoting it) Still I agree with the rest of your point, societal neglect clearly seems to be central point Toby is trying to make, just needed to point that out, some are MUCH more to blame than others. 47:07 And so, Jaru called out the entire world for their hypocrisy and willful ignorance... including himself. 59:28 Heh, guess it explains why Kris needs Noelle's help to finish off Spamton even in the solo Snowgrave battle. 98% done through determination alone, need that push to finish them off. (This comment will be edited if this point is acknowledged in the remainder of the video, worry not Jaru) EDIT: The video has ended, it has not been acknowledged here, as such I won't remove any of these points. Probably the final revision.

I live in New York, and to be honest, for here at least, other beggars are also at fault for why homeless people that legitimately just want help don't get it. Because there are beggars that lie (as in the beggars that are scamming people and don't want money because they need it, but rather just for a free handout, and refuse food people offer them), steal, and threaten people or attack people that legitimately do want to help. And there are shelters with room available to people that actually do want help, but many homeless people know that some other homeless people are violent, so refuse to live in the same place as them, even in the current climate where they're not actually any safer living on the streets than living in a shelter, as there are just as many people that may kill them for no reason there, as people that may attack them in homeless shelters. (For example there's been so many stabbing incidents here this year without any motive as to why they targeted the particular person, just they happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time). Of course that doesn't apply to every state, but It's a cruel cycle started by people that don't need help scamming people for money. I believe many people would be more willing to give money if they knew it would actually go the the right place, and not result in their own demise, from giving it to the wrong person who will stab them to death immediately after, or waste the money on something they don't need.

I know I already made a comment a week ago about this, but I was thinking about your analysis of spamton again. So much of the time on RU-vid, an "analysis" video is basically a plot summary with the creators opinions thrown in to make it feel like the creator is analyzing something. The fact that you first summarize the plot, but then go so *deep* into what makes his character so impactful makes me think you are genuinely one of the best analysis channels on RU-vid, you actually analyze stuff thoroughly and that makes all the difference, keep up the *fantastic* work

I dare anyone to watch this video and not want to hug Spamton at the end of it all. It's impossible. I really hope the secret bosses get to "wake up" from their item state by the end of the game, I need to see them one more time before the ending and say goodbye 😭

"I'm gonna be splitting this video into parts. Today is Part 1." He says, at the beginning of an hour and a half long video.

I remember once I talked to some guys about determination and if Frisk alone was the only one responsible for everything that happened at UT, honestly, it didn't make sense to me that Frisk alone was capable of everything, I did know of their power, but I felt there was something more and you gave me the answer I was looking for

Brb gotta go write an au where Kris accepts spamtons soul deal and helps him heal mentally. Did I hear anyone say platonic intimacy?

Perseverance - Unstoppable force Determination - Immovable object

1:08:02 - 1:08:47 just bookmarking this for myself bc I'm a sucker for discussion of how Spamton could have been an uncle figure to Kris. If only he, yknow... wasn't fixated on the whole Heaven thing. And in turn didn't attempt to game over the kid. Also, excellent video, can't really say much besides all the praise every other comment has already worded beautifully.

It's heavily implied that Spamton used to be the same size as the other Addisons, but after one failed attempt to break into the basement, whether it was accidental or on purpose, Queen knocked Spamton into the acid river, since she has a line that mentions the Acid making you shrink, and Spamton on multiple occassions talks about burning acid.

everyone: spamton's so sad. his character is so tragic and surreal... me: haha funny short dumpster man he has tiny legs

I've never been homeless, but have lived in poverty my entire life, and been scarily close to being homeless, all while dealing with mental illness. Spamton's story hits so close to home for me, desperate for any sort of companionship, any sort of control over life when you're at your lowest. The feeling that nothing matters, that one is trapped in a vicious cycle. This is such a good video, and does a wonderful job at covering these topics. And to anyone reading this, take care of yourself, because no matter how many people care about you, it still matters that you love yourself as well. Take a deep breath, relax, and have a good day ^^

hello, I'm from Brazil, and I loved your content, this video is what made me feel more sympathized with spamton, because, he was a successful guy who lost his fame, and had no one by his side, and that's a fear of mine, being in my most difficult moment and not having anyone to help me, spamton is a character that I can feel pain from him, because that's a fear of mine.

The very end of his story was ACTUALLY kind of tear-jerking. This was incredibly well done, and I can't wait for more of these kinds of videos. Great job.

Jaru: "i will be splitting this into several videos" Me : watches the time of the video 1 hour and 30 minutes Me : what the [cungadero]

47:09 don’t mind me just putting down a time stamp for later lol Good ass video btw

The community is not ready for the rest of the chapters. Seriously, we are like 2 years in and we still haven't finished analyzing this chapter

im pretty certain that spamton is small because he fell into the acid river.

Something I noticed while watching this video is that Spamton's plan of power absorption happens, but in reverse from his intention. When you defeat Jevil, you're given some of his equipment. But when you defeat Spamton, he BECOMES equipment for you to use. He wanted to absorb Kris' power but was content with letting the reverse happen because that still gives him and Kris a shot at freedom. He's visibly disappointed that his plan didn't work out, but I don't think that means he's given up hope. I think he believes that Kris is more capable than him. Since Spamton believes him and Kris are friends, it makes sense that he trusts Kris with his power. I think that if you beat Spamton NEO in chapter 2, he may pop up again in future chapters since he's now part of your inventory. After all, Lancer did the same, so why not him too?

Counter point to the argument that every Undertale character achieving freedom: Asriel never achieves freedom; he never gets a "good ending" like what all the other Undertale characters get to achieve. even in the true pacifist ending, Asriel doesn't get the freedom he desires.

As the tragedy unfolds, I think we can take a step forward. "If you have enough DETERMINATION, you can achieve almost ANYTHING", you brilliantly focused on the word "almost" and that's why we should strongly consider the word "enough". That's the turning point: Spamton, in his final moment, lacks DETERMINATION. He hasn't enough of it, his whole life of struggles shifted his determination into PERSEVERANCE, he failed every time, every possible plan he could ever imagine was doomed. But he refused, he kept going. Just think about the Asriel fight: Frisk DETERMINATION shifted into SAVE in order to, at least, keep the promise and free their friends. Frisk refused to die as well. That's why Spamton is doomed: his DETERMINATION already shifted into something else (PERSEVERANCE) in order to achieve the ultimate dream of freedom, but after meeting Kris, everything changed. Spamton felt that "strange" feeling known as friendship: that's why he fails, in the end. He's ready, he finally understands what was missing: a friend. Moreover, he's including Sousie and Ralsei in his final act "NO ... MYSELF AND MY [Friend(s)]", he is so eager now and cuts the last chord and his PERSEVERANCE becomes his downfall: the very thing that kept him going, hoping and surviving. It's the final and fatal betrayal. Now as an object in Kris' pocket, Spamton could face something worse: what if Kris fails as well? What if they will never be free and Spamton, an object, is doomed to watch his only friend suffer, unable to help?

11:36 "Spamton G. Spamton, more than anything else- Is defined, by his 'Unwillingness' to give up. His 'Refusal' to back down. His 'Dedication' to his dream. In other words, Spamton is defined, by his 'Perseverance'." Trying as hard as possible to not use the 'D' word, I see.

Great video. A character to Spamton is so cool because of the themes, and this did not disappoint. I wonder if Spamton haven't actually truly give up, since Spamton projects a lot of himself in Kris, and after failing to, well, be [Big Shot], chose to follow Kris and make them achieve freedom, like if he can't win he will persevere now for Kris. Perhaps like a friend. This to me would be interesting, specially since Darkners are said to find meaning in the Lighteners Also, I wonder if Spamton didn't already know that Kris would be there. He had time to plan and met Kris while alone, even in Snowgrave he don't seems surprised. But I could be mistaken or forgot something

24:48 The narration and buildup of this scene is so very powerful Jaru, but I can’t help but to remember that after all the hardships and trauma - being so utterly spent and defeated, that in a moment of lucidity, he offers his last remaining life-force to aid in the restoration to his possibly only true friend’s freedom- Only to be hit by the sheer display of absolute audacity by Kris who has nothing in his forty eight slot inventory but glow-wrists.

I’ve recently discovered your channel and I really, really liked your videos. Hour long videos have always been my thing, but the way you explain characters and your theories are just amazing! You also seem like a very kind person! Sending love from Brazil🇧🇷🇧🇷

I wish these were the type of books we had to read in school

I'm double dipping on comments, but really great main route analysis of Spamton, Jaru. Can't wait to see what else you have to say.

The social neglect talk rlly hits home, cuz my family has always been struggling with financial isuses. But even tho that was the case we tried our best to be on still help people and be on the giving and donating side as much as we can. World can truly suck for some ppl and as much as the world can blame those problems on the goverment or on the actual people who struggle because they didnt "try hard enough", some ppl just cant be a big shot no matter how hard they try :(

I went into the video wanting to hear more funny things about funny gremlin, and now, I probably won't be able to sleep through this night. Thank you for such a deep analisis!

You've wounded me, you put my thoughts into words about Spamton, you even made me cry about this silly man. Spamtons and Kris'es friendship means so much to me, thank you for explaining it :) ALSO!!! You talking Spamton and perseverance made me facepalm because JUSTICE AND PERSEVERANCE IS HIS GLASSES LENS COLOURS and I feel stupid for not realizing sooner. Because my theory was/is that not only are going to see the secret bosses talk about freedon, but it will all depend on the 7 human souls meanings (if that makes sense). Like how we have the determination soul with Jevil and we had Justice with Spamton, but I didn't realize that we can have a mixure of the souls meanings just like with Sanses muti coloured eye... I hope this makes at least a bit of sense.

BTW, Spamton's success of being a salesman also relies on the aid of others. He is always determined to achieve his goal, but he has never success until he received the help from the unknown man he called or called him.