Deltatraveler Section 3 Obliteration Route 

Holy shit

You can't hurt me Kris my tension is rising!

Nanomachines son.

TENSION POINTS SON.

STANDING HERE

Noelle with ice shock: nuh uh

This was the most disturbing part i saw

Sans Fels normal death is so overdone it's anoying, that's why i make Noelle Proceed all over him, that death don't give me genuine cringe as his normal death do

@@theprinceofawesomeness Kind of true. I get it's Underfell, but with the over-the-top edge, I just can't take it seriously. The IceShock death is much more chilling (punintentional)

your spelling is so underdone it's annoying@@theprinceofawesomeness

bloodshed

a lot of people thought that

Your first mistake was thinking you don't have the power to disobey Susie

0 iq moment

Same for me but the little mole was hiding in waterfall so i look around and saw him and i said "there you are you little fucker"

Heh. Nice joke

Half of his face is gone he is shedding

heh. good one.

NYEH HEH HEH HEH HEH wait did sans's jaw just die

LMAO

It started off really changed an everything but at least to me it looks like it turns into mostly just pacifist later Can’t say that pacifist isn’t bad it is pretty cool just expected a bit more variety from obliteration like section 2 did

​​@@krisspychissp That is also because Shayy missed some interactions. If after killing the dog you do certain response Susie becomes devious. And if after that you kill UF sans with iceshock Susie will straight Up throw their weapon, which means that down the line Susie may stay withaut a weapon and also start messing up your plans more like making Noelle not do what you order. Heck, devious Susie could already do multiple things like using rude busters against the wall, attacking with less power, hurting anyone in the team. And with Kris, the red Buster kills you in ANY fight, not just sans. It's basically Kris putting fake acts so you die. Oh yeah Noelle also says to Kris that he should had uf himself if you go out of obliteration at a certain point after killing snowy. Yeah there is things, is just that you need to look out for them.

Also if you kill fell sans with iceschock while susie has the devious status she will throw her weapon away and lose it

ALSO if you wait in the room after getting your soul back, wait for a bit and well.....

​@@LouX453And what

So what is the worst possible Obliteration Route?

​@@legendgames128Devious obliteration route

My eyes widened when I saw her snap.

He has kr in neutral run too

But downed party members can't do anything, so no, it's still plot armor

susie manipulating code spaghetti at gaster-level just amazes me.

She just ran away, like darkners

LMAO THAT'S AMAZING

C o n t e n t

Batter up

To get whole new interaction (and potentially whole new route in ch4) you need to do this: (spoilers, obviously, but yall don't care I guess) (I'm REALLY surprised why no one pointed this out yet) . . . . 1. After dog fight, pick "Shut Up" and "I want to kill you" 2. Ice Shock on Sans Ice Shock does have it's own thing if you don't do step 1, but only step 1 makes noticeable difference

​@@fluboxerfirst one came naturally to me because, since the weird run In deltarune has you choose the edgy option often, i chose to be rude to susie

I was under the impression you had to use ice shock, tbh. that's what the wiki says, anyway.

Batter up Btw, you can only kill Dogaressa, cuz if you kill Dogamy first, then you can't spare her

Very true

real

Oof

@@Sans40910YOU KNOW YOU FELL OFF!!

​@@acoolguyREAL lol but you still lost with 23 deaths on my fight

I have tested betray killing the dog and it took more time and effort than normal killing even then i knew which options to chose. I find it as a fun fact and hopefully future plot point that you can Spare Susie with out aborting Obliteration

@@theprinceofawesomeness Huh. Well, that's an interesting fact, I never knew it was better to just attack mindlessly than to lower its guard and then attack like a cold-blooded killer. Sparing Susie (among other things) might make for one of the better Obliteration Route endings.

NOT THE KWAD 💀

@@legendgames128 i had to go back and test again since i didn't write it down but the exact number is that it takes 8 turns for betray killing, 5 ACT and 3 FIGHT, (it could be a 9th if you don't do enguth damage), this is using the Clean Pan and hitting all quad somewhere in the eye thing (margin of 2 for perfect), if you only FIGHT it takes a Total of 6-7 turns assuming you deal 30 or more damage against the shield (quad Crit is a max of 67, shield have high defence). there is a "MEGA" betray, if you get it's Marcy meter to 100% you only need to deal damage once, but it takes 7 turns, 6 ACT, and 1 FIGHT. Susie calls you out if you do this so i guess it's true betray. if you can hit quads almost on the spot then Betray is more effort

@@theprinceofawesomeness Total betrayal takes the same number of turns as mindless attacking? Huh, so it is roughly equal to mindlessly attack as it is to be a double-crossing backstabbing piece of-

Oh, that’s really cool.

Maybe that shows the goals of the “player” controlling kris, whether their goal is to grow stronger or just chaos

@@chezux979 it's interesting that the choose exist, i do hope that in the future we can further elaborate to the characters what we want. it's a huge task to code in but i feel we need to explain our self to them. i feel this to be true for the actual real Deltarune too, that we need to explain our self at some point

A betrayal kill is not necessary

you specifically have to tell susie to shut up and then say you want her gone or something similar lol. basically just have to be an ass to her lol

ok

Red and yellow

hell yeah

Then she becomes devious

​@@brawlmaster0190she dont ask devious in shay gameplay ?

@@Ink_Akane_Kurokawa Because he chose "you hit me???" instead of "shut up" and then "I want you dead" That's what makes her devious because she gets pissed off at the player

And the best part is, the characters also try to sabotage you I love me a little challenge instead of running rampant in the og Genocide Run

​@@brawlmaster0190a little extra challenge is fun after all, if they were all cooperative and allowed you to quickly murder everybody itd get pretty boring

Arguably the same actually applies to Underfell Sans, even with the karma effect.

@@funcoolfunfun Karma roughly applies the same kind of damage overall as if you were doing pacifist run, but the damage rise from LV is definitely through the roof lol

It gets easy because you can kill flowey with three red bustera

Flowey beat the shit put of me on my first run

you need to use "ice" weapon, not pacify him with "sleep mist" Snow time for Red Sans - a hint kinda@lemons38

That "i can't count to three" makes me think about valve...

I think he can which doesn’t make sense (if we’re going off Time between each battle or during each battle)

Maybe it comes from his other kills

​@@mechamedegeorge6786i feel like its more of dustsans thing

Thats not how exp works.

@@LizardKingRequiem From gameplay standpoint it isn't, narratively - yes.

Let me guess, The undertale yellow kill? Where you get no exp from killing Ceroba on True Pacifist? we ain't justice 😭

Personally disagree, but hey I respect your opinion (although I’m mostly referring to the obliteration path when I say this, because I actually really like the pacifist route in this section lmao)

​​@@thenyan3095The genocide route was a letdown because no one really seems shocked by anything Kris does since they tell them what is happening. Even before that only Noelle seems affected then apparently not being affected at all.

they literally contradict themselves several times in the obliteration route and rynogg got lazy, she made everyone unaffected besides the “devious” susie status, susie got pissed at sans for killing a little kid acting like they didnt murder two children in cold blood and leave it at that

​@@mechamedegeorge6786 yeahhh I think that’s mostly because of the fact that the dialogue is not very changed from pacifist, and that the route is not changed from pacifist in general, the evil routes of UT/DT have VERY different dialogue interactions, boss fights etc and it also specifically gets rid of all the comedic moments which this section just.. doesn’t do? And it just really messes with the tone in general, And it’s weird because section 2 absolutely NAILED this for the most part and even then, the preview for section 3 was going in a really nice direction before they decided that the 3 would just.. continue being a team and just play along with killing things, and it’s especially weird because they straight up know that it’s not Kris they’re speaking to anymore Although one thing I want to point out is that there is a chance that this was done to save time, I’m no computing expert but making a game is probably really difficult, so maybe she made the changes in the OB more minimal just to take a shortcut? But who knows that’s just speculation

​​​​@@thenyan3095 tbh I think the section may have been slightly rushed, I've heard a dev say they considered a separate scene if you ended the obliteration route by sparing GG!Sans. Which tbh is kind of jarring because it feels like Susie should call you out for it, like after all of that you spare the guy who boasted about killing Suzie, iirc the scene is basically the same as sparing them normally which is also very weird considering other exits from the Obliteration route have different cutscenes/dialogue. I do understand the characters progressively getting less bothered and desensitized to the trolling considering how LOVE is explained in Undertale as "The more you kll, the easier it becomes to distance yourself. The more you distance yourself the more capacity you have to hurt". But the tone of the Obliteration route feels a bit weird because of the comedic moments still being there, and especially post-Kris sleeping the characters act more similarly to pacifist (I understand if the endings of the sections are the same but for example snowgrave derailed a lot of chapter 3), maybe it's just me but the, tone of the first part of the Section (pre-Kris sleep) and the second part of it feel very different. Still really liked the game.

To be fair, there's only so much they can actually do without outright killing Kris. And they don't know about saving and reloading, so to them, whatever happens is permanent, even if we know it's not necessarily so

@@funcoolfunfun True

In Undertale, sans in the judgement hall says that the more LV or LOVE increases, the more it becomes easier for the person to hurt others more.

​@@funcoolfunfunwell, for one, susie could simply grab kris and pull them away from nearby enemies

And what are they gonna do exactly Susie herself said Kris hits like a truck Doing that would be a death sentence. And they also kinda wanna go back to their home too. I think while they value the life of other monsters they also have some sense of self preservation(e.g Susie sparing herself to not get killed by you).

Btw, ut sans addresses the iceshock thing on his shop when you talk to him about fell sans after the true snowgrave obliteration ending

Same

From my experience, I haven't been able to spare it.

I don’t think i would’ve gotten past the earthbound section, but had I gotten here i would’ve stopped at lesser dog. It just feels cruel and I could never bring myself to do it

The obliteration route doesn't require you to attack Susie Even if you choose to, you have the option to apologize

Dude, I probably would’ve stopped after seeing Kris and Susie breakdown like that. Call it cheesy, but after seeing these characters that I’ve liked since I played CH1 all the way back in high school, just breakdown like this because of *my* actions. It flat out just makes me wanna erase my obliteration save and continue to play as a pacifist. I’d rather just be the man who is taking someone free will, rather than being that AND a murderer.