I actually picked up the denon x4700h, I paired it with a emotiva XPA-3 Gen3 3 Channel amp to power my two front Airmotiv T1+ towers and my Airmotiv C2+ three-way center channel loudspeaker. It's sounds amazing. Full 7.2.4 set up on point.
@@zergslayer69 honestly it was all a new set up so I really have no input on the before, but as of right now. The three front speakers sound so crisp and clear, I keep my dual subwoofer lower then I need to only because the xpa amp gives both front left/ right, and center speakers pumping with enough juice to the point that I might not even need my subwoofers
I want to say thanks for the advice you give on your channel. I got an AVR-4700H around Christmas and I set up Atmos with your guidance. More recently I got eARC working with my TV, AVR, Apple TV, and TiVo with your advice. My system is awesome and I don’t think I would have gotten nearly as much out of the excellent components without the advice from your channel.
As with any amplifier/receiver you have to rise up in the category (€€€) to hear a difference. I had a Yamaha rxv-565 for 10 - 11 years. The uupgrade to denon avc 3700h was worth it! I really hope that the denon is as reliable as the Yamaha.
3rd denon now,4700 came in today, 9.1.2 with klipsch and svs, just time to up grade the avr, And your a Saint with the pointers.setup is completely different from current 6 yr old denon.thank you a ton
On HDMI 2.1 port issue, it should be noted that, apart from the gaming consoles, pass-through signal from graphics cards was not mentioned. This is rather important. In one of video demos from Sound United from December 2020, it was demonstated that static images from Nvidia's graphics card (40 Gbps - 4K 120 10-bit) could be passed through Denon receivers onto TV or PC monitor. However, it was not officially shown how dynamic images from games and graphic simulations perform, including variable refresh rate function. There have been multiple reports that VRR/Gsync/FreeSync pass-through simpy does not work reliably, if at all, when graphics card passes its signal to display through AVR. This affects many owners who use graphics cards' HDMI 2.1 port on PCs as a source. There could be a number of reasons for this issue, one of which is TV's inability to receive HDMI 2.1 VRR or one of its iterations from Nvidia or AMD. However, if TV is VRR/Gsync/Freesync capable at 4K 120 10-bit, VRR on receiver should work. Also, VRR is an officially advertised feature on these receivers. It would be most useful it could be officially demonstrated that VRR feature works reliably with these receivers at 40 Gbps. Thank you.
Technopapa, I must confess to getting my hifi store to set my 5.1.2 system up as most of what you said made my brain ache. However, they missed the WiFi antenna sitting in the box and overlooked the fact that my LG CX was better suited for some capabilities. Your advice was key in getting my PS5 to work properly. Keep up the good work across the pond although you look rather weary!
Sharp looking unit! I love the minimalist look of the front panel. I don’t need 120Hz, so I am all good. Love the rear panel layout, very convenient. Love all of those pre-outs, and all of those inputs, Rock on! Love that I could do 5.1.4, perfect configuration for my room. Have on hand plenty of external amps for expansion. The big trick would be trying to find one in the current receiver drought! Thank You for the very informative video Channa!
I'm glad you liked the video, Kevin! Yes, this is the AVR I would recommend as you can "grow" into it more so than the others. Shoot me an email or DM if you are interested in getting one!
I have one of these - bought it as more of a placeholder until I could get separates but have to say the performance is actually really good, especially when you pair it with amps
Hey Channa thanks for the info on all your videos it helps a lot. I purchased the 4700h last year and I’m constantly playing around with the settings after watching all your videos 😂. This is the first denon I’ve owned after all my pioneer receivers I’ve had. Keep up the good work mate
@@TechnoDad I do have a question actually lol. I have the pioneer elite speakers because I can’t have in ceiling speakers. My question is what crossover is best for the atmos speakers. I run the audessy setup and it crossed them over at 120hz but Cleveland in one of his videos said it’s better to cross them over 180hz. What’s your take on it
I just got that receiver, it is my first AVR ever. Thank you for explaining the set up way better then the manual !!!!! I get my last 2 speakers in tomorrow and I am going for a 5.2.2 setup. Thanks again, and you just got a sub ( no pun intended :P )
You omit talking about calibrating distances and levels. It's pretty easy with a tape measure and smart phone app and I find it makes a big difference. Your thoughts? Great videos. Very clear explanations. Thank you.
Right now as part of the pre black friday deals you can get the Denon AVR-X3700H for $1,200. Value-wise it is pretty hard to beat. I believe for the newly manufactured units the HDMI issue was fixed. Sure there are some advantages to the new Denon AVR-X3800H but it is $500 more at $1,700. You really would need those new features to justify that cost.
I think when they put that huge step on the 3600h from the 3500h, it almost felt like a big corporation cared for us... they probably don't but that was a huge upgrade. And it continues on with this one.
Where is the link to the little amp that you are using for your height speakers? Also, it somewhat annoys me that you can only choose between the Fronts and the Right Height speakers to be preamp only. In my setup my rear speakers (on a 7.1.2....upgrading to 7.2.4 soon) is over a wireless link, I would have preferred for that to be my pre-amp only.
I have this Receiver later I'm probably going to add 2 amps from emotiva I wanted to get 1 amp for all but I remember what you said about the emotiva 9 channel amp with the 65 watts x 4. Well see I'm still a few months away before I do that. I'll be rocking a 5.2.4 setup....Thanks for review.
Thank you for your insights and recommendations. These videos are incredibly helpful in driving decisions about which AVR and speaker configuration I will select. I'm curious if you think this AVR is good for the new Klipsch 5.1.4 cinema atmos system sold at Costco.
so I just bought the 5.1.4 from Costco and this exact AVR for my movie room and after hours of Tweaking, moving, and trial and error... I can say if you have the will power to experiment with angles and hights, since yes the Costco system is Atmos its not true in ceiling so its not the ideal way of getting that atmos sound you can get the two to sound really and I mean really good together. is it a audiophile top of the top sound quality no by no means. but is it a very good sounding system for around 2300$ that will impress 99% of your average listeners yes. yes it will
@@TechnoDad can you separate the high and low frequencies of the front speakers with terminal configuration sections on this model? I have a pair of 705 s2 and definitely wanted to know.
@@jayc5695 To be quite honest, I'd rather jump to the latest model rather than still be 2 models behind, and I want to take advantage of having 4 height channels instead of still being left with 2 if I got the 3600.
I have acquired a Denon POA-5200 to drive my mains and add 2 more Atmos, giving me 7.2.4. On the x7200wa I was able to use 9.1/4 Height/FH RH without having to go to the 11.1 assignment. I have run Audyssey and all 11 channels are active. According to AVSForum this is because the pre-out for the mains are always “hot”. With your 4 channel Atmos scenario, you’d have to use the amp to drive the added RH, correct? Incidentally, I’m losing a little bit of power with the POA-5200 (125wpc) vs x7200wa 150. This was noticeable immediately by having to crank that knob 10-15db to get the same volume level as before. However, the clarity is friggin marvelous!!! Cheers bud!
Would you be able to please show how to connect two denon receivers together? I have the x3700h for my 5.2.4 media room. I have outdoor speakers that are run up to my media room. I have an older denon 2113cl to power then.
Another great video Channa 👏 got my 4700H back in November, really impressed with it, catch get the arc to work tho for tv audio! Tried everything with no luck. Probably missing something so obvious. Shame the UK version does have tuner built in tho!
@@evilawkeye2215 what tv do you have? If it's a samsung i couldn't make that work either.. bought a lg cx instead and works like a charm (with my soundbar, i don't have this system)
@@evilawkeye2215 ahh, possibly the avr is at fault, but high chance it's the tv also then.. i loved my samsung, had great visual quality, and when i got my oled and had them play hdr content side by side, the samsung had more pop, as the brighter colors (zonic the hedgehog blue lightning) really shined bright, while the oled was a bit dull. So there is a downside to oleds, at least for now, they are getting brighter every year, but now a year after i don't miss my samsung. The general visual quality is better and the blacks omg🤤
Thanks for immediate update on this. I am assuming that this box will also solve issues w/HDMI 2.1 graphics cards also? I have finally been able to win the lottery and purchase a PS5, but I really wish they added at least 1 more port on this device as it is going to be very common in the near future for people to have at least (2) HDMI 2.1 devices. I plan to have (3) devices as soon as Microsoft will "allow" me to buy the Series X and Nvidia "allows" me to buy an RTX 30xx series card. :)
Just got my X3700H today and love everything about it. Only issue I am having is I can't get the receiver to recognize my Sub2. Subs work, both are brand new Klipsh RS12SW
Thank you for this, I'm switching from the old 7.1 to 7.1.2 with this new Denon and you opened my eyes to maybe 7.1.4, I'm new to this and I didn't know we could use those small amps to power 2 more channels which is very cool. Could you post the link to that little amp please? Thanks..... Edit: Nm I found it ;)
@@jerrycarrera9124 The one he's showing is the Douk Audio 2/4 Channel Audio Amp 50W x 4 (on Amazon) but after torough research I bought this one -> Fosi Audio BT20A Bluetooth 5.0 Stereo Audio 2 Channel Amplifier. It's only 2 channels (Also on Amazon) but a better quality. Now I really want an Emotiva BasX A3 Three-Channel Power Amplifier for my 2 fronts and center which will free a lot more power from the 3700h
Update, the emotiva is like night and day compared to the little amp, my advice get a good amp right away. The little amp does the job but man, you don't know what you're missing.
Is this receiver good without help from a power amp I was planning to use 7 channel and feed the other two channels to the front with bi amp I know you said you are not covering bi amping but I'm not an expert so I appreciate the help and advice is more than welcome
It's a good avr. I returned the 2700 for it, then returned it for the 4700 lol. And now, 2 months later, I realize I should've brought a processor. I'm building hypex amps. I've got a 3 and an 8 channel. But it's all good. Just one heavy processor. Preamp mode was a necessity for amp integration. Otherwise I would've just left it powering the surrounds, heights, or both. I still think they're cheap for making only one output, but whatever, at the rate I upgrade, I'll have an AVM70 by summer 🤣
How you doing techno dad this is Mr Herman Woods I wanted to know not dealing with the receiver but back on the deal with the DVD Fab what software is good for doing menus for dealing with 1080P and 4K or how to make menus thank you for your time Mr Herman Wood
I've had the 3700 on my wishlist for a while, pending approval from the financial advisor. Here's hoping this video doesn't kill the stock at best buy for me lol On a side note, really glad Sony limited the data rate for the hdmi output so we wouldn't have to wait another year for compatibility. Now they just been to open up that m2 port already!
Hi, Enjoying your videos. I have 7 channels running from an external & using the Denon for the 4 heights. How would I set up this amp. So far no sound from the 2 SB speakers (4K vid etc) but do work on the speaker test. Rather frustrated. Appreciate your help.
Just started looking at denon receivers and torn between the 3600h or 4700h. I currently have and older Sony with a Bose 7 to 1 Soundsystem I just upgraded all the Blu-ray players and TVs to 4K and I want to 4K receiver. I liked your video I just wanted your opinion which one do you think would be better. Money was not an issue anything under 2000
Man have things changed, lol. My trusty 2008 Denon AVR-588, $500 value, has died, it was rated in rms 75wpc x 7, all channels driven at 8 ohms. After looking at new AVR's and reviews, I would need to spend $1300 more for a Denon Avr X3700H to achieve the same 75w rms x 7 driven at 8 ohms rating as the older $500 Denon 588. I feel like Rumpelstiltskin, waking up to an over-priced, underpowered future, I realize we are getting a lot of new updates in codex, HDMI, and other goodies, but not in power where it matters. Is the Denon X3700H worth the extra $1300cnd increase for the same RMS wattage? Great videos.
Thank you, Cal! These new AVRs are only rated at two channels driven into 8 ohms, so you would want to get an external amp to go with this for AT LEAST your front stage. They really don't make them like they used to...
I bought this denon, had a Yamaha that I loved but my LG new TV didn't play nice so I upgraded. I had regular Onyko speaker set up and 7.1. Now this has the height option that's why I bought the 3700. I want to put 4 in-ceiling speakers and plug them into this unit. The way I'm reading this is.....I will have to buy an external amp for this, correct? I can't just plug into the height speakers outputs....or am I wrong. I've never used any preamp stuff in my surround sound setups....I'm a bit intimated by it. But to gain the experience I'll do it. Anyone who has added the height speakers, any advice on what to purchase would be greatly appreciated. I want to add 4 speakers
Looking at this AVR. To confirm, if you want to be able to use 4 up firing Atmos speakers, you need a 9.2 (or 9.something) AVR, correct? A 7.2 (7.*) AVR would not be enough? I have left, center, right, left rear, right rear, and 4 up firing Atmos speakers and of course a sub, and want to use them all...
Nice AVR. I Picked up the 3600h awhile back because the 3700 was so hard to get. I'm about to add a 2nd sub to my system soon.Do you guys prefer to plug them both into a power conditioner or straight into the wall outlet? I have the svs pb 1000 Pro plugged into my conditioner. Cool vid techno dad.
Great informative video, thank you. I just unboxed this receiver and it is all new to me. I ONLY have ceiling speakers, RF, LF, CENTER, R&LRear. That is in the main room. I also have 2 speakers on 2 different patios, connected to Height 2 . I can not get sound to the patio speakers, all the others seem to be working fine thought movie dialogue is a little quiet. Is there a way to set up for all ceiling speakers and how do I get the patio speakers to work. Thank you in advance.
Thank you for this wonderful video. I have this unit and a LG75 TV connected to it. I was able to set up the speakers after watching your video. However, when I connected this unit to an Epson LS500 4K projector, I am not able to do the speaker set up. May you please suggest a solution for this issue? Thanks,
Thank you, I have denon avc x 3700h, now i have a 5.1 setup, trying to upgrade it to 5.1.2 Bought a pair if atmos firings speaker. Is this same as AVR x 3700h, Thanks
Techno Dad Good look on the video. I’m debating between this one and the Maranz 5015. Do you know if that 120hz bug was corrected? I’m trying to game on Xbox series X and PS5 and trying to have that 120 and VRR pass through working. Thanks in advance.
I have a LG C1 and I use all the streaming apps from Netflix to HBO Max. Looking to buy a receiver and take advantage of the best sound possible for streaming. Is E- ARC HDMI 2.1 the only way to get Atmos? If it is, I feel like any receiver that is doesn't have e Arc is pretty much obsolete and waste of money.
Hi, I was planning to set up a 5.1.2 home theatre setup with following components based on information obtained from internet. Kindly suggest any modifications. Thanks AVR- Denon S750H Subwoofer- Polk HTS10 Center speaker- Q acoustic 3090i FL and FR- Q acoustic 3020i SL and SR as well as atmos- micca M8C/M6C (ceiling mounted only)- please suggest 6in or 8in preferable with this combination Oxygen free pure copper cable 16G and 48mbps HDMI cable
Hey Dad! I have a dilemma Hope you can lend some advice please. Im using a almost two decade old Pioneer elite and I am happy with the sound and main speaks are Bower and Wilkens. But it will not pass anything but 1080i signal. Dilemma is I have a good friend who does HT and he has a brand new in box 3700H he offered me for 1200 bucks. My only concern is will I be happy with 105w with 2 driven VS 140w x 7? I like it loud and clear. My other option is take my Nvidia shield to my tv then spdif it back to receiver. Whats your 2 cents?
It's hardware issue, so likely won't be fixed. Only anthem has committed to offering a future hardware update. Even if when they can pass 120 4k I worry about latency, as the whole point of 120fps gaming is reducing latency. Putting anything in the chain between the device and display seems like it's counter productive.
I've been on the wait-list for a review unit of the MRX 1140 since December 2020. Not sure if they care to send me one to review. I have the MRX 720 still and I can say that the Anthem Room Correction is much better than Denon's Audyssey.
Is it possible to setup a 4.1 system, i.e. a 5.1 minus the center? If not I'm guessing you can set it up as a 5.1 and then activate "Music Mode" to move all center sound into the front left/right speaker? How to I send the setup screen to my projector? Do I use the 4K Zone2 output for everything, and switch between the difference sources using the 3700H remote? Thanks!
Hey I have a question. I am looking to get a 5 channel klipsch speaker setup. The fronts speakers would be rp6000f’s with the 404c Center channel. The surrounds would be rp500m’s. Do you think I would need a external amp or are these speakers I mentioned very efficient?
So I was interested to buy the 3700 but you said it also had the HDMI bug like the 2700 for the Xbox SX passthrough. If I didn't need all those chanels, probably 7.1 would be enough for me. Would you recommend the 2700 instead the 3700 ?
I know this is an old post but your videos are way more informative than the manual! I was wondering if you know if the 3700 has a pass through function? I have my 4k projector connected to Monitor 2 and TV to Monitor 1 ARC eARC. I'd like to watch the TV and just pass through the sound but can't work out how to get the 3700 to do it, ie., it always plays the sound through the speakers and no sound comes out of the TV.
@@TechnoDad I am trying to pass through audio from our Panasonic 820 bluray palyer that is connected to the HDMI i/p on the receiver. Of course it passes through the video to the TV from the bluray player, but not the sound, only through the receiver speakers. I'm thinking there is a setting somewhere on the receiver to let the sound through to the TV's speakers as well.
I have this AVR, but somehow after the initial setup I can't get back into the ARV menu. I have it connected over the earc HDMI port, but somehow I can't get the menu to show up on the TV.
I have klipsch rp-250s for sides and rp-160 for rears. Do you think I would be better off with another set of 250s in the back as well instead of thr 160s?...
Hey, thanks for review, I really want to know if 5.1.4 works with 2 front heights speakers and 2 dolby atmos enabled speakers (up firing) on my front speakers?
Hi Techno Dad, do you know any Yamaha receiver model that can power 9 speakers and pre-out 2 channels to achieve 11 channels? I don't think the A6A can do that.
Head you say that only rear heights or front L/R channels need to be assigned in pre amp mode- all other channels are on all the time. So if I want to externally power my front stage (L/C/R) if I plug in my center channel to preout and externally power- is my avr still sending / wasting power to the center channel binding post? Or is it smart enough to know center channel is not connected and reroutes the power to other connected channels?
I’m having an issue not sure with receiver or Apple TV but I loose display at times, usually when I stop playing a movie and go back to Apple TV Home Screen, I switch input on my Denon remote and come back to Apple TV , everything is fine. Initially I thought it is Apple TV but now I feel it is Denon. Either you or anyone have seen this? If not please keep an eye and let me know how to fix it. Thanks Channa D.
Hi, If Zone2 TV is connected to Zone 2 Hdmi and if content is played from Tv inbuilt streaming apps like Netflix/Prime, would audio come from Zone 2 speakers?? (As Zone2 hdmi does not say ARC)
So after watching your channel and getting a few responses from You over a year ago….I have another question to throw at you. I have the x3700h and BasX 3 running 7.1.4. I ran and installed a extra ceiling speaker back by the bar. I was hoping to run sound out of that speaker only during sporting events or parties. Am I out of luck or is there a way I can just split a binding post. Buying a additional amp won’t help correct because the x3700 can’t process more then 11 channels? I honestly didn’t think I’d put grow this already.
Hi Brandon! So you want an extra set of in ceiling speakers for certain occasions? You could have that set as zone 2. You could get an external amp for those two speakers (a cheap one). I’m not sure if you can mimic what’s going to the mains on Zone 2. That would be issue. Trying to figure that out.
Hi Channa D, I was in the process of upgrading my AVR. Confused whether I should go with a costlier AV processor (Anthem AVM 70 or Marantz AV 7706). Would it be waste of money or should I just go with Denon AVR X-4700H or X-3700H and use the Pre-outs. I am currently running a 5.1.2 setup using Pre-outs from Marantz SR5010. The ear level five channels are Monitor audio silver 6 for front left and right, silver Center and two bronze FX for surround. The two height channels are SVS prime elevation. The LFE is handled by two SVS SB4000. I want to add mor channels starting with two more height channels. The Pre-outs are connected to Emotiva XPA-5 and Emotiva BasX A800. So I already have amplification available for 13 channels. My question is that would the AV processor give a better audio experience than a Denon AVR?
