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Derek MPMD: The Importance of Education on Steroids and Understanding the Risks 

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Welcome to the fifth episode of Shadow Talk, the podcast hosted by six-time Mr. Olympia winner and founder of nutrition and supplement specialists DY Nutrition, Dorian Yates.
Shadow Talk is an insightful podcast series that aims to answer the question: How can you be a better version of yourself?
Dorian welcomes guests from across the world, to not only talk about fitness and health, but how to mentally and spiritually improve oneself. Hosting guests from not only his competitive bodybuilding past, but also from his own journey to self improvement, Dorian asks the questions that will allow you, the audience, to take away valuable and practice lessons you can apply to your own journey.
Dorian’s guest for this episode is the popular RU-vidr Derek, founder of More Plates More Dates.
A hugely successful name in the fitness community, Derek has gained over 1.9 million subscribers on his RU-vid channel and racked up over 600 million views. In addition to this, he has appeared on a number of podcasts over the years, so we’re delighted to welcome him onto Shadow Talk with Dorian Yates for this episode.
More Plates More Dates Channel: ⁠ / @moreplatesmoredates
As well as his massive social media influence, Derek has his website which boasts a range of resources for all things self-improvement related: ⁠moreplatesmoredates.com/⁠
​​To find out more about DY Nutrition visit ⁠dynutrition.co.uk⁠ (the UK) or ⁠dynutrition.com⁠ (Europe).
Get 20% off your first order with code SHADOWTALK20, plus enjoy free shipping within Europe with code SHADOWFREE. Enter code at checkout to redeem your discount.
Timestamps:
0:00:00 - DY Nutrition’s commitment to providing high-quality products
0:02:08 - How Dorian learnt about steroids
0:06:30 - Health awareness of steroids
0:08:00 - Derek’s purpose of channel MPMD
0:08:50 - Importance of being informed
0:09:20 - Dorian’s first experience with steroids and blood tests
0:13:04 - Bringing awareness to people on steroids and risks
0:13:40 - Dorian’s story with steroids and what his doctor told him
0:17:18 - Advice to people starting out
0:20:00 - Dorian’s experience after steroids
0:26:00 - How would Dorian fare in bodybuilding as a whole today
0:30:00 - Dorian’s interests now in helping people
0:33:33 - Living in Spain
0:36:14 - Gyms in Spain
0:38:24 - What Dorian would do differently
0:45:43 - How low did Dorian’s calories go for a contest
0:48:20 - Competing without a coach
0:49:06 - Dorian’s bicep injury
0:51:30 - Females taking steroids and importance of education
1:01:30 - How the bodybuilding industry has changed
1:02:32 - Best thing to do between cycles and transitioning
1:10:10 - Where to find further information on Derek’s page
1:12:20 - Importance of having a baseline
1:13:20 - Derek’s experience
1:14:50 - Does having more muscle mass require more steroids
1:18:13 - Importance of estrogen

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@DorianYatesNutrition
@DorianYatesNutrition 24 дня назад
Timestamps: 0:00:00 - DY Nutrition’s commitment to providing high-quality products 0:02:08 - How Dorian learnt about steroids 0:06:30 - Health awareness of steroids 0:08:00 - Derek’s purpose of channel MPMD 0:08:50 - Importance of being informed 0:09:20 - Dorian’s first experience with steroids and blood tests 0:13:04 - Bringing awareness to people on steroids and risks 0:13:40 - Dorian’s story with steroids and what his doctor told him 0:17:18 - Advice to people starting out 0:20:00 - Dorian’s experience after steroids 0:26:00 - How would Dorian fare in bodybuilding as a whole today 0:30:00 - Dorian’s interests now in helping people 0:33:33 - Living in Spain 0:36:14 - Gyms in Spain 0:38:24 - What Dorian would do differently 0:45:43 - How low did Dorian’s calories go for a contest 0:48:20 - Competing without a coach 0:49:06 - Dorian’s bicep injury 0:51:30 - Females taking steroids and importance of education 1:01:30 - How the bodybuilding industry has changed 1:02:32 - Best thing to do between cycles and transitioning 1:10:10 - Where to find further information on Derek’s page 1:12:20 - Importance of having a baseline 1:13:20 - Derek’s experience 1:14:50 - Does having more muscle mass require more steroids 1:18:13 - Importance of estrogen
@yiannis.demetriou9696
@yiannis.demetriou9696 20 дней назад
Are your products third party tested?
@WarriorSidMentzer
@WarriorSidMentzer 22 дня назад
The fact that Dorian is asking Derek questions shows he doesn't have a bullshit ego and that is pretty cool.
@UntitledtotheGrave
@UntitledtotheGrave 23 дня назад
The duo we didn't think we needed
@alkku0075
@alkku0075 23 дня назад
But we did
@jimaldo7715
@jimaldo7715 21 день назад
@@UntitledtotheGrave it was certainly a pleasant surprise to see this video pup up
@epistemologicaldespair68
@epistemologicaldespair68 23 дня назад
Can’t count the times I’ve heard Derek say “The guy is shredded out of his GD tree, looking like Dorian Fkn Yates” lol. Great crossover
@crushyyog3762
@crushyyog3762 22 дня назад
4 or 5 years ago Derek was still somewhat small time.. Now he's interviewing Dorian Yates. He has come so far. I love it
@sagnikbalo9544
@sagnikbalo9544 23 дня назад
We want a podcast with Leroy Davis please, I think it would be legendary.
@sukesingh2099
@sukesingh2099 23 дня назад
That would be great!!!
@hannanpervez1771
@hannanpervez1771 23 дня назад
They haven’t spoke in decades 😕
@CommandoG331
@CommandoG331 23 дня назад
They're not friends. Leroy stole a living off the back of Dorian. Still does.
@jomainasdf1433
@jomainasdf1433 23 дня назад
@@CommandoG331 what do you mean? what happened?
@CommandoG331
@CommandoG331 22 дня назад
@@jomainasdf1433 all I know is they weren't training partners long. Dorian had partners he trained with for years before Leroy come about. Then Leroy's milked a living off that blood and guts video ever since. All he was,nwas a mouthpiece
@coopertrost3816
@coopertrost3816 23 дня назад
derek interviewing dorian on dorians podcast haha. great stuff!
@the_notorious_bas
@the_notorious_bas 20 дней назад
That's called a conversation
@JordanLR
@JordanLR 18 дней назад
⁠@@the_notorious_basit is a bit more like Dorian being interviewed though
@the_notorious_bas
@the_notorious_bas 18 дней назад
@@JordanLR In the beginning yes, but later it becomes more of a conversation.
@richspizzaparty
@richspizzaparty 23 дня назад
Dorian’s podcasts are always the best. Can’t click fast enough!
@coocoo4cocablunty
@coocoo4cocablunty 22 дня назад
Not really. He talks over a lot of his guests and doesn't let them finish their sentences.
@cjskelton7603
@cjskelton7603 21 день назад
Yates would not have got anywhere without Leroy Davies walking him through every exercise, every time! He particularly struggled with sequencing the dumbbell curl even during his Olympia reign!!
@PyronTheDevourer
@PyronTheDevourer 23 дня назад
Crazy lineup of guests so far. Can't wait for this one to drop.
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife
@gary_michael_flanagan_wildlife 23 дня назад
“The competition is NOT on the stage. That’s the end result. The competition is every day DAY IN, DAY OUT that nobody actually sees”. This really resonates with me!! With my wildlife photography it’s similar. It’s the preparation, the miles of walking to the destination where the animals are. The knowing your gear and the concentration needed to create the finished photograph that people love. Thanks, Dorian, great podcast as always. Can’t wait to see Lee Haney on one day!!❤
@curiosity8494
@curiosity8494 24 дня назад
Lining up some great guests in this podcast. Nice one. DY winning in the podcast world too.
@alkku0075
@alkku0075 23 дня назад
Cant wait. Going to be on of Your best podcast next to Tom platz one
@zeroinfinity8227
@zeroinfinity8227 2 дня назад
Hey Dorian. I love your content, character and discussions. Probably (99.99%) you will not read this, but please know that genuinely you have inspired me in the past 3 years via your podcasts & HIT programs. Thank you.
@DorianYatesNutrition
@DorianYatesNutrition 2 дня назад
Thank you for your support and kind words! I'm glad to hear that my content and HIT programs have inspired you over the past few years. Keep pushing forward and striving to be your best. Stay strong and keep training hard!
@jaycarneygiants
@jaycarneygiants 22 дня назад
I feel fortunate to live in a time where the information we need to stay as healthy as possible is available. Imagine back in Dorian's day when they didn't even know to take blood pressure meds.
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 23 дня назад
When dorian speaks i listen.. it was cool having derek on as well
@cyrillyons1531
@cyrillyons1531 16 часов назад
I absolutely love this collaboration. Thank you, Mr. Y for being an example of many things to integrate into everything. It's not just bodybuilding. You have said if you apply the same actions (with consistency) from bodybuilding to anything in life, success is more than possible! Absolutely brilliant, you even know Derek exists because many do not allow themselves to open their mind to younger sources!
@MichealBrown-ju5rq
@MichealBrown-ju5rq 22 дня назад
came here from the MPMD short. Soon as I saw you two together I knew I needed to see the whole thing.
@latman1
@latman1 22 дня назад
Dorian was always such a breath out of fresh air. He doesn't need a hundred thousand likes to feel validated!!
@NaturalIntensity69
@NaturalIntensity69 23 дня назад
Stoked to see dorian more on the internet nowdays, i remember 3-4 years ago loving the scarce content and podcasts of his you could find. Would love to pick his brain one day for adapting H.I.T styles.
@dylanfirth3813
@dylanfirth3813 5 дней назад
Dorian had a chuckle and you could see a flashback ,💪🏻 you are thee man! **
@RecTown-re6ur
@RecTown-re6ur 23 дня назад
Always a pleasure and a delightful surprise to get a new Dorian podcast episode dropping. Looking forward to the one with Peter Attia as well.
@alexanderkernoghan4385
@alexanderkernoghan4385 2 дня назад
Everyone who is great at what they do has one thing in common. Surprisingly, it is not talent or determination, these are common but not universal. Universally, they have a simple and actionable way of thinking about what they do. This lets them focus on what is important so their effort yeilds results. Dorian is the most concise thinker on body building and his explanations always display deep understand distilled to their essence. He is a great for a reason.
@ayda2876
@ayda2876 8 часов назад
Thank you for making this ♥️ So glad to see you still around and well
@sturdygirl75
@sturdygirl75 21 день назад
Thank you Dorian, for this episode. Valuable information for us women who love listening to your content. I'm definitely one of your 3% 😊 ❤
@spacecowboy3914
@spacecowboy3914 23 дня назад
I've never seen Derek so nervous !
@seleb1539
@seleb1539 23 дня назад
Happy to see Derek with The Shadow. Legend 💪
@zarathustra007
@zarathustra007 23 дня назад
the podcast we all need and deserve
@Dylan-cj7ku
@Dylan-cj7ku 23 дня назад
Awesome, easily one of my favourite podcasts. Excited to see who you bring on next!
@christopherhughes-hh2yp
@christopherhughes-hh2yp 20 дней назад
Good to see Derek is back sat in his mum and dad's sauna
@djokernolecristi3279
@djokernolecristi3279 22 дня назад
Love Dorian. Super smart guy, so relaxing to hear him share his experiences
@jessebrown1400
@jessebrown1400 23 дня назад
There's something about Dorian's storytelling that is so good, what a great interview! I loved that part about the anti-estrogens. I had a similar experience using a 19-nor only base and paid a bit of a price. Bodybuilding has come a long ways but I still love the 90's era, he's right when he describes 90's desire in the gym. BIG was in, but I can appreciate Dorian's different identity. In our eyes he's still in essence BODYBUILDING.
@jaycutlery
@jaycutlery 24 дня назад
Looking forward to it.
@Roadmap.to.Resilience
@Roadmap.to.Resilience 22 дня назад
So stoked on the collab!! 🙏💪
@cambruno5066
@cambruno5066 22 дня назад
Crazy multiverse crossover. Have been a fan of Dorian since I started bodybuilding and Derek since 2020. We needed this! Thank you from returning from the shadows Derek!
@edzeplin77
@edzeplin77 24 дня назад
Genuinely excited for this
@shmoo1000
@shmoo1000 23 дня назад
It's be awesome to see you speak with Leroy Davis and the past training you guys achieved
@alcito101
@alcito101 16 дней назад
The respect that Dorian shows for my Canadian compatriot Derek is contagiously humbling. It is familiar: I am a college professor, and I learn from my students.
@doriangates9918
@doriangates9918 21 день назад
I would love to see more of these two. Dorian and Derek are my favorite of all time in the fitness industry.
@pashagymlife977
@pashagymlife977 23 дня назад
Brilliant this was a epic collaboration. I've go so much respect for dorian I love listening to him speak, in such a fake World his a one of the real ones.
@willashwood7803
@willashwood7803 22 дня назад
Great episode! You are a legend Mr Yates, can't wait for the next one!!
@robriste
@robriste 11 дней назад
the statement about 'Competition' was Gold, thanks
@antonio1681
@antonio1681 24 дня назад
this is gonna be great stuff
@heartoflion888
@heartoflion888 22 дня назад
We got a derek and dorian podcast lets fkn go
@darrinuhl8103
@darrinuhl8103 16 дней назад
I loved hearing Dorian discuss his experiences. Let’s get these two guys together again soon.
@user-uk3jk6dk8v
@user-uk3jk6dk8v 22 дня назад
Great podcast, thanks Dorian you’re the man! You should have vigorous Steve has well, Steve and Derek are the most knowledgeable guys on RU-vid right now
@AJ_2204
@AJ_2204 22 дня назад
How's this the first I've heard of the pod could quite literally listen to Dorian for hours
@leonidas3127
@leonidas3127 21 день назад
Derek providing a platform for Dorian is very generous from the Derek’s side
@AJ_2204
@AJ_2204 21 день назад
@@leonidas3127 honestly surprised his channel hasn’t been recommended to me before, I’ve watched the rogan and True Geordie podcast with him a couple times each before guess it just takes a Derek collab😂
@MichaelB1979
@MichaelB1979 6 дней назад
I cant imagine how Derek felt talking to Dorian. Its a dream
@JasonB_13
@JasonB_13 22 дня назад
It's awesome to see Dorian's brand really start to crossover onto the mainstream's radar. One of the most dominant bodybuilders of all time should be a household name like Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Derek Jeter. He certainly is held in that regard in this house. As my sons are finally reaching training age I assure you they're super familiar with The Shadow and have a great deal of reverence and appreciation for the database that he's shared.
@erikverstrepen3373
@erikverstrepen3373 16 дней назад
One to save ! Encyclopaedic and very educational ! Eye opener for sure. See you on the next one Dorian !
@matinbali
@matinbali 22 дня назад
Your honesty is awesome Dorian. Arnold would never even think of saying what he did. I guess to be fair he was in politics and they are full of lies. Can I ask for a healthy 54 year old is small amounts of test and so on a big issue health wise ?
@Dragonlagan1
@Dragonlagan1 13 дней назад
Great back and forth. Derek is always so good at general conversation as a guest and host
@laddy2522
@laddy2522 23 дня назад
made my day seeing this collaboration
@JR-ru3wt
@JR-ru3wt 24 дня назад
YES!
@adamcooper8463
@adamcooper8463 22 дня назад
Another great conversation podcast. I would love to see Leroy one where they talk about their days together. Perhaps get Dorian’s other old training partner, Paul also. Another podcast with perhaps jay cutler or John little.
@Owen-C1997
@Owen-C1997 21 день назад
I was surprised to see this collaboration, but man did i click faster than ive ever clicked on a video before in my life 😂. Great video. Kind of reminds me of the years old video of Dorian telling his stories on the joe rogan experience.
@user-cg2xu7tj8i
@user-cg2xu7tj8i 10 дней назад
Can’t wait for the next podcast !!!!!
@simplymana
@simplymana 18 дней назад
Wow I can’t believe these two are sitting in the same room together. I haven’t even watched this yet but I’m so KEEEEENNNNN if I could like this a million times I would. Tysm😊
@danielparkinson5834
@danielparkinson5834 17 дней назад
They aren’t, video call.
@patricksorger1595
@patricksorger1595 21 день назад
The mental health issue for gear is super important and very much overlooked for sure.
@gsp81
@gsp81 20 дней назад
Not a fan of bodybuilding or body builders. But Dorian is a first class G. Complete honesty. Rare dude
@JM-bg2ts
@JM-bg2ts 2 дня назад
Dorian making up words in his add read "adoptatation" i like that 👌
@bfmv4evr88
@bfmv4evr88 День назад
Dorian has the best gainer on the market. I took 2 1/2 scoops with 1 liter of milk everyday for a year and with hard training the results were clearly visible and felt, actually I decreased my body fat percentage and I gained 7-9 kg of musclemass. The results were almost anabolic.
@User107D
@User107D 23 дня назад
Good conversation - cheers! I must admit that I had different experience with steroids, used Nolvadex but very speringly and couple of shots of HCG after the cycles were enought to restart my natural testosterone production whiteout an issues (never used more than 1000mg test per week tho). This shows how different every individual is regarding the usage of drugs and I think that trial & error is king but it is good to have general knowledge about the subject before you start experimenting on yourself 😅
@Purplereign3121
@Purplereign3121 12 дней назад
A podcast with Dorian is a gift. Always.
@snehamshis
@snehamshis 14 дней назад
Please Dorian we want one with your favourite peer KEVIN LEVRONE....Please 😭 😭😭 I've always been a die hard fan of the SHADOW since childhood but lately i've learnt about Kevin's journey and all that he has been through... It would be very inspiring and already goosebumped imagining it happen and you both talkin bout your walk of life... Great motivation for all young bloods Before i die i wanna see you guys talking over this beautiful craft you guys share... ❤ PLEASE DORIAN...much love ❤️‍🔥
@MarkWarren-sw8bq
@MarkWarren-sw8bq 23 дня назад
You and Derek are the only two guys I listen to.
@leigh_carmichael
@leigh_carmichael 23 дня назад
Never thought I'd see this colab. Great stuff!!
@MrJ027
@MrJ027 23 дня назад
Looking forward to this
@anthonyhewitt9397
@anthonyhewitt9397 21 день назад
I could listen to this all day. Amazing content.
@cdog2145
@cdog2145 23 дня назад
Quality dorian always pushing your perspectives.
@damienwinpenny1267
@damienwinpenny1267 21 день назад
Two amazing minds - DY is a hero!
@Stardust-neroli
@Stardust-neroli 23 дня назад
17:05 damn it, I really hoped he would answer what was his treshold of taking steroids. Nasser El Sonbaty said the most he took was 5000mg of test without other compounds. We understand that genetics play a huge roll and building muscle takes time, but I wish they would just say how much steroids it took to get Mr. Olympia title. What was their max.
@anthonyvenegas8299
@anthonyvenegas8299 20 дней назад
He has ,give it a look,,ther was a recent 1
@christianchapman9420
@christianchapman9420 23 дня назад
Great podcast as expected 👏 could have easily watched the 3 hour version 😀
@warrenrobert9066
@warrenrobert9066 23 дня назад
jacked about this! Great work Derek!
@antonhallergren588
@antonhallergren588 24 дня назад
Gonna be a banger!!!
@eldictator1
@eldictator1 23 дня назад
Dorian smoothly moving away from the dosage question ha
@darrennaidoo6252
@darrennaidoo6252 23 дня назад
Wow two legends🎉
@laurencewilliams536
@laurencewilliams536 22 дня назад
Another fantastic podcast keep them coming 💪🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 23 дня назад
This will be good. Nice one DY
@jimaldo7715
@jimaldo7715 23 дня назад
Anadrol was trash for me. Like Dorian said, it'll make you feel strong when lifting, but I had crazy side effects; severe insomnia/anxiety, which led to audio hallucinations... bizarre.
@zoheir1162
@zoheir1162 6 дней назад
What's the most legit website that people buy dianabol from? 🙏
@jimaldo7715
@jimaldo7715 6 дней назад
@@zoheir1162 Fuck knows. I bought shit from a hookup 15 years ago.
@ugk26
@ugk26 23 дня назад
That flex leg extension. The seat was angled a bit. The weight was centered and each leg went next to the hinge. Loved that thing.
@user-qk8yk7km1n
@user-qk8yk7km1n 22 дня назад
I hate the new extensions with the side pivot, it doesn’t feel the same and the pad usually distorts over time so one leg ends up further forward than the other.
@andreyvolkov3117
@andreyvolkov3117 23 дня назад
Nice 👍. Going to listen tomorrow
@Alx7051
@Alx7051 23 дня назад
Fantastic podcast
@FLOYD-MAYWEATHER-TBE
@FLOYD-MAYWEATHER-TBE 23 дня назад
The Kings Of Chemical Warfare
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 23 дня назад
Obv roids are part of the sport when ur talking pro level bbing.. I don't think alot of ppl realize.. the main component is genetics, u could lit take someone with decent genetics and put them on the same cycles/ food, training etc, and they would look nothing close, to someone who has elite bbing genetics... these guys are freaks of nature..
@willthomas7666
@willthomas7666 23 дня назад
Samething with ur genetics, on how well u respond to roids... ppl could take the same cycles these guys do, and there body won't put on anywhere near the muscle, as someone like say dorian
@kallelund4487
@kallelund4487 20 дней назад
@@willthomas7666 It's not about that. its half what u say, How well someone respond to steroids is how well can u handle the sides. the more peds u take and can TAKE the sides with no problems the more u can take and dont go off. This is for real a chemical warfare,
@RichRobinson
@RichRobinson 17 дней назад
@@willthomas7666cool story
@adamcooper8463
@adamcooper8463 23 дня назад
I love these podcasts, and this was a very good one!! The only thing that annoys me little bit is I hear a lot of the same questions; ‘what you do differently’, ‘who’s better todays guys or the 90’s etc etc. I want to know things like how was the diet, when did he have a relaxing meal (every week or two etc when in the off season) what did he do to kill time back in the day when not training (e.g video games, pick kids up from school , what’s films etc. what did he think of victor Richard’s when he saw him, was he as big as they say, was vi bigger than Dorian, does he think box in shape do well in the mr.o. There’s so much more to know, but it’s about asking the right questions
@anibaldelgadillo2369
@anibaldelgadillo2369 23 дня назад
Wow. As a natural bodybuilder, I am so glad I never went down that (synthetic) road.
@Nonameagain69
@Nonameagain69 24 дня назад
F yeah, best collab ever.
@andypicken7848
@andypicken7848 23 дня назад
Lots of matters in like appear straight forward but are infact more complicated than first appearances. So it is with harmones, an ignorant man would surpose "its just a hormone", however having listened to Derek it becomes apparent how complicated the endocrine system is and how upsetting steroids are.
@Lucas_Jeffrey
@Lucas_Jeffrey 22 дня назад
This was amazing. Very profound conversation
@jackdanielsbmx
@jackdanielsbmx 23 дня назад
Awesome content. 👌 Makes me wanna blast another cycle haha
@user-wu2lh7di2l
@user-wu2lh7di2l 21 день назад
Never thought I’d see this!
@kyawswarhantun7767
@kyawswarhantun7767 24 дня назад
this is a crazy work
@user-uh9px7yh9p
@user-uh9px7yh9p 22 дня назад
Dorian the legend.
@fergalfoley8571
@fergalfoley8571 23 дня назад
A great listen 🙌
@tonyramada3829
@tonyramada3829 22 дня назад
💪💪💪 Great interview.💪💪💪
@BatmanBoss
@BatmanBoss 23 дня назад
Great show!
@Hlth-cn4fh
@Hlth-cn4fh 9 дней назад
Great show. Thanks Dorian.
@only1tofear164
@only1tofear164 23 дня назад
Two great minds
@Hittdogg17
@Hittdogg17 22 дня назад
2 of my favorite people
@SlsAmg-cz7nq
@SlsAmg-cz7nq 23 дня назад
What a outstanding combo
@gustavoalceudesouzacruz7354
@gustavoalceudesouzacruz7354 21 день назад
uau, that was great. ansewred all my qustions about dorian..
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