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well i believe he knew the name. it's merely good tv presenting, as it's better to hear a person introduce them selves, rather than derren do it for them.
+Matthew Bolan I kind of suspect that the cheated somehow with the one "genuine" game. If he had lost the one game, the whole production would have to be scrapped, which probably would be too risky financially, as they would have to start from scratch and find 9 new very skilled chess players. Or he had a backup plan in case he lost. Some sort of twist, that would remove the focus on too some other aspect. I think he must have had an alternative endgame.
That's because he just watched the guy win against several grandmasters and also lost to him. So, in that moment, it definitely will feel like he's grandmaster level. But, if he analyzed the game later, I'm sure that he would find his opponent wasn't nearly as accurate as a grandmaster.
Joke's on you. They're actually nanite bombs and now there's a ring world around the sun that can comfortably house 2 trillion people, wildlife, oceans, etc. You thought I was going to destroy everything, but I deceived you and now there's nothing to fight over. There's more wealth than anyone could ever need in this lifetime! Checkmate!
How the number prediction is done is shown at 6:18. It was a misdirection followed with the paper from the pocket being swapped for another, written after, in Derren's right hand. The later 'prediction' is then displayed with the original being hidden behind it. It also explains why the original prediction had the same first digit error as his whiteboard, he just remembered that wrong and it ended up on both. That swap took some serious skill.
the reason the first digit is "wrong" is because it was always 6, the guy's hand is holding that end of the paper the whole time and he can't swap it out. He sticks the rest of the paper onto that first sheet. So the 6 was always going to be wrong unless he just happened to get lucky. he lets the guy hold out the 6 which he knew would be a 6 because he already pre decided it would be a 6, then does a swap on the entire rest of the sheet
At 6:18 the numbers are already correct. You can see 7 _ 611 and the 5 at the end flashes before that already, too. The swap has to happen sooner or during a cut.
@@AlexRoseGames I agree but i also think there's a clever psychological trick in getting the first number "wrong". by getting it wrong, the audience is more inclined to belive the authenticity that it was some amazing mind reading trick from Derren. If it was all completely correct, the general public would be likely to assume its too far fetched, but if one aspect is wrong they will think, "that part was wrong, so it can't be a trick, as a trick would result in perfection". It happens often in Derren's shows I've noticed, there's always one minor thing that "goes wrong" and lends authenticity to the illusion.
@@albertjurcisin8944 You can leave the table whenever you want during chess matches. Strong players often wander around tournament halls and watch over games between moves.
Albert Jurcisin Thats not true. If you had played chess professionally for any amount of time you would know. Chess players can leave the board whenever they feel like it.
Yep - we all had a pretty good idea of exactly what was going on - Derren was miked up - I’m not sure he even knew how the pieces moved - I knew within a couple of moves I was actually playing a friend of mine GM Chris Ward. I remember thinking at the time what an absolute fraud this all was so I assume that all of DBs stuff is equally fraudulent. I only found out a year or so later after the program aired how he won the ninth game. There was an IM in a far off room messaging him the moves. The IM was also using the top computer engine of the time to make sure he didn’t blunder. I know the name of the IM but obviously it’s not fair on him to reveal who it was. And finally I would agree that I did come off as a bit arrogant.
@@julianhodgson1961oh damn, I knew something was off when he won against Robert. The guy mentioned that Derren played like a GM which was very surprising considering how Derren said that his chess was crap. So either Derren was lying about his chess skills or he used some external help. Unfortunately, i guess it was the latter.
I struggle to believe none of these players realised what was happening, especially when they're playing different colours with the other boards obscured from vision. They also don't seem surprised that Derren would go all the way around the circle before making his move on the opening turn. On top of the fact that this is an extremely well known chess trick for simultaneous games.
It's definitely believable in a tv setting, an odd environment and it's also why he has the number at the end.. no matter what they believe at the start it will be influenced by the number at the end.
The instant I saw this on the original TV show, I thought "He's doing the old Mirror Chess trick!" I was a member of my chess club at school and a mediocre one at that, but the Chess Club president was also the Mathematics Teacher and had shown us that technique as part of an end-of-term puzzle/trick. However, the pressure of being filmed, alongside with a whole load of other factors, might have meant that this slipped their minds. Or, they sort of guessed he was doing that trick, but went along with it for entertainment purposes. By the time Derren did the show he was already quite well known and not even chess grandmasters are immune to being starstruck!
So the results were: Table 1: Graham Lee (Fide Master) drew Table 5: Desmond Tan (Former England Jr), Table 2: John Emms (Grandmaster) lost to Table 6: Jonathan Lewitt (Grandmaster), Table 3: Julian Hodson (Grandmaster ) won Table 7: Chris Ward (Grandmaster), Table 4: Paul Littlewood (International Master) won Table 8: Nathan Alfred (Fide Master), Table 9: Robert Chan (President of Chess Society) lost to Derren Brown.
@@gezzarandom at grandmaster level, two stalemates is statistically unlikely. And to be honest, 4 stalemates against grandmasters wouldn't look that bad.
@@mirjamheijn5214 I'm really late here, but stalemates are actually far more common at higher ELO's. Look up the TCEC Championship where they have computers with 3000+ ELO's play if you don't believe me.
@@mewithmychick6960 As long as you can remember the last 8 moves and not goof up, it's really easy. His sheer ability to fuck with people is out of this world, though.
Amaya K That explanation does not adequately relay HOW he remembered each MOVE, given the complexity of world class chess strategy. There is no way, that a Grand Master followed a specific course that a novice would be able to navigate since two players at different tables would be responding differently.
David Rodgers not sure if you’re still interested... BUT you should look up “Scam School The most epic chess scam of all time” if you don’t believe that is how he won a bunch of games
oh maybe it's plausible that derren brown didn't know them by face? i knew a guy in my alma mater's chess team or something, and he didn't know wesley so by face (i'm filipino). (of course derren brown just put them all against each other, so whatever. lol.)
@@brdyyt6702 Not if he memorised the grandmaster's moves and got into such a fantastic position that it was hard to lose once he had to make the moves by himself.
+Mahmood S ...Can"t ever catch up on downloading the whole internet anymore... everything is out there in kazillion formats n channels n clouds n backbones n ... NLP loop of madness.
The pairing thing must've been incredibly obvious to the chess players at the time. Starting off by watching the first move of four tables without replying?
+corey yoo its fake dude, those grand masters arent so stupid and they should know at the first moves that he is mirrowing, no good chess player let the opponent move and then go away without moving, espically if it is the opening and you can actually respond very fast
WristyTheMod its fake because the grandmasters are fucking actors, they are like "oooh how the fuck did he beat us? he is soooo goood" its just everything fucking acted and the thing with the paper is pure fake, for real there is no other way to explain how he got the numbers, i am professional chess player if you want to know it you can trust me
ccccoooooollll I think the only thing faked is the numbers but the logic in the chess playing was flawless. I don't care if you think you're a professional chess player, this video works out legit.
This is why a true Simul (Simultaneous Exhibition) has 1 expert chess player playing White against everyone else with Black, so that you can't mirror moves like this (Seems like these GM's should have objected). Usually, White will make a move and go on to the next player and each Black player will wait for them to come back around so that the White player can see their opponent actually making the next move. Also, since it is indeed a challenge to play so many games at once, having the same color helps avoid confusion. Thus we end up with a better chess simul exhibition all around. This was still very clever and interesting. I don't know how he did the numbers. I think he might have switched out the papers by slight of hand at the end there. He tells the player whom had received the envelope before play commenced to now open the envelope. Notice that he starts touching the envelope at the same time as him and helping him. I think he switched it with a new one where he wrote down the correct number of remaining pieces and hid the other. (The one error, wrong number of remaining pieces, was done on purpose to add realism).
the remaining number wasn't done on purpose to add realism, it was done because that's where he made the swap at 6:17 . the guy's hand was always clasping on the left hand, he tells him "you just take that there" and lets him hold the 6. the 6 was always a 6, and that's why he "incorrectly predicts it", he literally just incorrectly predicted that one. the rest of the numbers he then affixes to the first sheet to make one long sheet that he is controlling and all the folds make it unclear where it was stuck on. every number other than the 6 he pushes, the 6 is the only one that was always in the envelope I don't know how he beat the other chess guy though without an earpiece. maybe something to do with the screens, or the cameraman somehow giving signals or something with another master off screen playing that game
I would have been well stunned if he had only demonstrated how it is hypothetically possible to pull off playing 8 masters against each other, with the difficulty being the need to remember each corresponding move. Getting it done floors me. Although the polished finish was astonishing, in order to show the number of all of the opponent's remaining pieces (well, almost all), he likely flipped to working his stage "magic" to accomplish that.
Krasses Experiment! Die Auflösung danach ist verblüffend und genial! :D Es waren 4 Großmeister in der Runde und Derren Brown konnte sich sämtliche Stellungen und Züge souverän merken und entsprechend die Züge wiederholen, er ist ein ausgezeichneter Magier und seine Magie kann er einen selbst im Schach spüren lassen ;). Einfach ein genialer Trick, die Großmeister unwissend gegeneinander spielen zu lassen!
I took part in a rehearsal of this in Warren Street in London in late 2003. I can tell you that in our rehearsal the exact same thing happened minus a couple of production issues with the crew. The main difference is that the number on the envelope was spot on, 9/9, in my case, and not 8/9 like here. Still figuring it out... As for the choice of players, I personally play a bit (I was contacted through a chess union) so I was avoided as the 9th player. My friend on the other hand introduced herself with " Nice to meet you, although I haven't played chess since I was about 3!" He had his 9th player identified right there
He swapped the letter at some point. It's quite straight forward when you think about it because there is no other physical way such a thing could be done. He even admitted he didn't play the game himself so it was impossible to influence the results (not that it would be particularly doable anyway.
They were probably all playing against a computer which forced endings that had the right number of pieces. Not an exact science but close enough to amaze people. It also needed to force equal number of wins/loses/draws to give the impression that he was playing the players against each other - which wasn't actually happening.
I was very good at chess when I was a kid.. I used to play at county level and used to beat all my mates, teachers and even the chess teacher at another school where I learnt to play chess after school in another village, it really is trying to remember the best possible move in any situation, there are so may different combinations, the first 4-6 moves lead you onto a specific chess game and within that game can be several mini battles on the board. When u meet a certain criteria with the pieces you know how to attack the hardest and smartest.
I was told a story by a navy sailer who said a woman interrupted 2 chess masters on the ship asking to play, the old masters didn’t want to stop their game to teach/beat a beginner. So she challenged them both and bet that she could at least win 1 game. She ended up winning 1 game by copying 1 of her opponents responses and playing it against the other master. I’m happy to now understand that this story was more than just possible.
I thought it was something along those lines, having read a novel by Sidney Sheldon in which the protagonist did something very similar, except with only two grandmasters.
My god. When I saw the title of this video I thought to myself "I hope this is not the old classic trick when you transfer the moves between boards!". Yeap, all chess players know this trick and you can bet the grandmasters knew even before the went there. When I saw that the opponents had different colours I immediately knew. You see, simultaneous games place all opponents on the same colour (usually black), just to avoid this little trick.
J Kooch66 if you do play chess it's not that difficult also, he was essentially memoring 4 games GMs or IMs can essentially play opponents blindfolded i.e., board in their mind so yeah its very possible and not that hard with practice
This is clever, its like doing 2 tricks where the players know how he did the first one (winning the games by playing them against each other), and then a separate trick where he reveals the prediction. Whereas, its actually all just 1 trick where the first part was to send them down the wrong path so that the reveal is even more specular. Amazing showmanship
If I were to take a guess I'd say it's either all staged or those are just the most common ending numbers for chess games. In addition it's a single number so he's free to pick and choose the combinations of digits to form the remaining amount. Plus he's not going around in a circle when asking for the numbers, giving even more leeway for getting the right numbers. (Plus the mistake 6, though that could've also been there just to make it appear more real dunno)
Like he said at the start, he's been analysing their games for a year. Pair them off properly and you can predict the most likely outcome, since chess is a nearly solved game and you know what kind of playstyle they favour.
this guys a genius. WTF. I wonder if he could hypnotize me into running from a 9:39 two mile to 9:20. I'm competing in indoor states tomorrow and this idea really intrigues me
I'm sure chan was no pushover, to be able to keep all that information in his head AND play a game of chess at the same time seems almost more impressive than if he actually played the games straight up.
During the post match interviews, the only played to specifically discuss derrens chess skill was r ninth player. All the others just talked about their own performance against their opponent "him". They would have known what was going on, but would have been fun for them anyway. Ultimately "what he did today was truly impressive" is correct
They're all paid. Its fake. When grandmasters play simultaneous matches with people, they make sure everyone has the same colour. They're chess grandmasters, man. They're not that stupid
Oh, the moment when you spend a whole year studying the work of a few people but you can't remember their names. Don't you just hate when that happens?
He could have studied the moves and names, but not their pictures lol That or their appearance could change somewhat since pictures or footage was taken... But yeah, it was a bit odd.
I'm an avid chess player with an expert rating (just below the master level) and this is absolutely incredible in the truest sense! By far, one of the best illusions/ricks I have ever. Great job!!
If he knew he was going to be on TV maybe he chose to do that to stand out Maybe they told him too! Ot maybe he has hand problems/issues (like eczema) and prefers to hide his hands
At the start of the Video i knew the stategie because I knew it as a bet from the ScamSchool Channel. There it was with an equal number of players and the bet was to not lose more games than you win. Still a very nice Video!
